I have had a number of people enquire about my RACETAM STACK, so I thought it best to post this as a new topic.
FYI - My RACETAM STACK that I take daily currently comprises the following:
1) PIRACETAM: 5g twice daily, with 3+ hours in-between doses (TOTAL: 10g daily)
2) OXIRACETAM: 300mg once daily
3) PRAMIRACETAM: 100mg once daily
Other NOOTROPICS that I take in addition to this include:
4) Hydergine (Ergoloid Mesylates): 1mg once daily
5) Choline (as choline orthosilicic acid): 100mg twice daily (total 200mg)
6) Phosphatidylserine (as isolate): 100mg once daily
7) Quercetin (as Chalcone): 250mg twice daily
8) Gerovital H3: 3.6ml via IM Injection once daily
You got me thinking about mixing them racetams.. How do you go about it [?]
I would recommend firstly trialling each of the various RACETAMS (e.g. PIRACETAM, PRAMIRACETAM, ANIRACETAM, OXIRACETAM, NEFIRACETAM) individually BY THEMSELVES to ascertain the following:
1. How you personally respond to the particular RACETAM.
2. What is the MAXIMUM dosage (up to 5g twice daily) FOR YOU of PIRACETAM that you are able to tolerate without manifestation of side effects (N.B. You will to ensure that you do not misconstrue Racetam induced Choline Deficiency symptoms as PIRACETAM side effects, so you will need to play around with your CHOLINE dosage as such – e.g. if you get a headache or brain fog, try increasing your CHOLINE dosage a bit, and if the headache and/or brain fog diminishes then it’s the lack of CHOLINE, NOT the PIRACETAM causing them). NOTE: YOUR required CHOLINE dosage can be anything from ZERO to 500+ mg.
3. What is the MINIMUM dosage FOR YOU for the other RACETAMs which yield the desired therapeutic beneficial effects of the particular RACETAM; this will be the appropriate dosage for you to include in YOUR stack.
THEN try adding the other RACETAMS to the PIRACETAM one-by-one at the respective dosages established in (3) above.
Please be aware that for some of the various RACETAMs individual response varies considerably; for example, some people find ANIRACETAM to be great, whereas others don’t get on with it at all; and the same goes for OXIRACETAM. N.B. It appears from user feedback (this is not scientifically substantiated but is my own observation) that those who DON’T respond well to ANIRACETAM DO respond well to OXIRACETAM and vice versa.
and what functions those different racetams have in the stack?
All the RACETAMS that I have listed potentiate each other and there appears to be considerable synergy between them. Aside from their contributing additive overall nootropic effects MY PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS relating to the individual RACETAMs are as follows:
PIRACETAM – At above a high enough dosage provides ANTI-DEPRESSANT (MOOD ENHANCEMENT) and non-sedating ANXIOLYTIC effects in addition to its NOOTROPIC effects.
PRAMIRACETAM – Significantly enhanced mental clarity and sharpness; and increased motivation. N.B. TAKE WITH FAT (as fat soluble)
OXIRACETAM – Auditory perception enhancement (e.g. music sounds better). Improvement in overall MEMORY storage and recall (much more so than provided by PIRACETAM, which tends to primarily enhance working and short-term memory)
ANIRACETAM – Provides a potent ANXIOLYTIC effect at much lower doses than PIRACETAM, but with the tendency to induce FATIGUE, BRAIN FOG and AMOTIVATION (N.B. This does NOT mean it will do the same with you – you will need to try it for yourself to see how you respond to it). The NOOTROPIC effects are very short-lived, lasting only circa 2 hours. N.B. TAKE WITH FAT (as fat soluble)
NEFIRACETAM – For me personally NEFIRACETAM was somewhat a double-edged sword with both POSITIVES and NEGATIVES, but with the NEGATIVES outweighing the POSITIVES. I found it to yield a strong ANXIOLYTIC effect AT ANY DOSAGE (even 25mg) akin to ANIRACETAM, but WITHOUT any of the undesirable side effects of ANIRACETAM (fatigue, brain fog, amotivation etc.); and VERY strong nootropic effects… However, I also experienced the following UNDESIRABLE SIDE EFFECTS: INCREASED anxiety; SEXUAL SIDES (reduced libido, reduced seminal volume); SLEEP DISRUPTION; IRRITABILITY; MOOD DISRUPTION; DEPRESSION; LOSS OF SELF-CONFIDENCE; and AMOTIVATION.
Edited by ScienceGuy, 29 January 2012 - 03:54 PM.
