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#91 Nattzor

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:02 PM

Hi there, I am new to forum, and ordered Sunifiram after reading this post and before becoming member. I am waiting for my Sunifiram to arrive, I did not try it yet.

Also I would like to participate group buy of IDRA-21 , Coluracetam and Unifiram.


Coluracetam and Unifiram will soon (next month at latest I think) be available from NSN and Liftmode (I think).

#92 Reformed-Redan

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:46 PM

IDRA-21 is the read deal when it comes to ampakines. All else pales in comparison.

Just look at some papers on what IDRA-21 does to EPSP spikes. Ridiculous.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:56 PM

Hi there, I am new to forum, and ordered Sunifiram after reading this post and before becoming member. I am waiting for my Sunifiram to arrive, I did not try it yet.

Also I would like to participate group buy of IDRA-21 , Coluracetam and Unifiram.


Coluracetam and Unifiram will soon (next month at latest I think) be available from NSN and Liftmode (I think).



Here is the quotations that I received from one of Chinese suppliers as of 07.04.2013.


PRODUCT : Coluracetam cas 135463-81-9
QUANTITY : 100 mg
ASSAY : 97%
PRICE : $98 FOB Shanghai
DISPATCH : In the middle of April

PRODUCT : Sunifiram cas 314728-85-3
QUANTITY : 500 mg
ASSAY : 98%
PRICE : $82 FOB Shanghai
DISPATCH : In stock

PRODUCT : Unifiram cas 272786-64-8
QUANTITY : 500 mg
ASSAY : 98%
PRICE : $165 FOB Shanghai
DISPATCH : In the middle of April

PRODUCT : (+)-IDRA-21 cas 22503-72-6
QUANTITY : 300 mg
ASSAY : 98%
PRICE : $985 FOB Shanghai
DISPATCH : 45 days
VAILIDITY : 5 DAYS

For Coluracetam, Sunifiram and Unifiram, we are making big quantity, so we can offer small quantity at low price. However, regarding (+)-IDRA-21, it’s a new product, so we have to charge much for small quantity. If you order 1kg of (+)-IDRA-21, it’s cheaper which is $3950 including express courier fee.

#94 Reformed-Redan

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:26 PM

A racemic mixture for IDRA-21 will be cheaper. I've seen better prices around.

#95 ScienceGuy

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 09:01 AM

A racemic mixture for IDRA-21 will be cheaper. I've seen better prices around.


I just found out I can obtain a small quantity of IDRA-21 from a reputable laboratory in the UK, as they have already synthesized it. :)

Consequently, I am going to acquire a small amount and try it. I will be sure to post my personal experience with it. ;)
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#96 Reformed-Redan

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 09:23 AM

A racemic mixture for IDRA-21 will be cheaper. I've seen better prices around.


I just found out I can obtain a small quantity of IDRA-21 from a reputable laboratory in the UK, as they have already synthesized it. :)

Consequently, I am going to acquire a small amount and try it. I will be sure to post my personal experience with it. ;)

Same here from another well respectable lab. If it doesnt work out I'll give up on chemically induced nootropics.

#97 phil8462643

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:10 PM

if there is a group buy on the idra-21, i am interested.

#98 alecnevsky

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:23 PM

Thanks Science Guy!

#99 Psionic

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:14 AM

I wonder if we can get a little more than small amount quantity from that UK lab :) Or just wait for SG´s experience with that compound?

From that Shanghai lab it looks like 10 times more pricey than coluracetam, hows that price comparable to UK manufacturer?

#100 ihsanozkan

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 05:17 AM

Hey any ideas about buying of IDRA? Do you know any place to buy with cheaper prices than the prices that I posted previously?

#101 Patrick Sylvester

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 09:56 PM

Hey any ideas about buying of IDRA? Do you know any place to buy with cheaper prices than the prices that I posted previously?

here it is idra-21

and finally the conflation. the cycle is complete!

#102 Climactic

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 06:23 AM

I am having toxicity from a sunifiram interaction; this is described in my post here. My general message is to be careful with ampakine drugs that may not have a favorable toxicity profile at high doses, preferring those of the benzoylpiperidine or benzoylpyrrolidine series. Moreover, even though the drugs themselves may in isolation be safe, interactions with other stimulants may make them quite unsafe.

The safest thing to do may be to research and acquire AMPA NAMs (negative allosteric modulators) with the same vigor that you apply toward AMPA PAMs (positive allosteric modulators). I think this will in theory allow you to conveniently cancel any excess effects. What do you think?

Edited by Climactic, 05 June 2013 - 06:29 AM.


#103 Patrick Sylvester

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 02:03 AM

I just found out I can obtain a small quantity of IDRA-21 from a reputable laboratory in the UK, as they have already synthesized it. :)

Consequently, I am going to acquire a small amount and try it. I will be sure to post my personal experience with it. ;)


what ever happened with this? hopefully you got the chance to try it, if so that's very exciting!

#104 Reformed-Redan

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 02:17 AM

I just found out I can obtain a small quantity of IDRA-21 from a reputable laboratory in the UK, as they have already synthesized it. :)

Consequently, I am going to acquire a small amount and try it. I will be sure to post my personal experience with it. ;)


what ever happened with this? hopefully you got the chance to try it, if so that's very exciting!

It's in the works. Will keep you updated in the IDRA-21 group buy thread.

#105 mrd1

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 02:19 PM

I take sunifiram noopept piracetam and aniracetam thrice daily. So, I think it seems pretty safe so far.

#106 xks201

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 02:39 PM

I am having toxicity from a sunifiram interaction; this is described in my post here. My general message is to be careful with ampakine drugs that may not have a favorable toxicity profile at high doses, preferring those of the benzoylpiperidine or benzoylpyrrolidine series. Moreover, even though the drugs themselves may in isolation be safe, interactions with other stimulants may make them quite unsafe.

The safest thing to do may be to research and acquire AMPA NAMs (negative allosteric modulators) with the same vigor that you apply toward AMPA PAMs (positive allosteric modulators). I think this will in theory allow you to conveniently cancel any excess effects. What do you think?


Have you had any success with any AMPA type drugs?

#107 mrd1

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 02:41 PM

You guys might be interesting in the fact I seem to be rapping eminems Rap God while browzing this form. This probably isn't from my ampakines but it prob doesn't hurt taking 18-39 mg of sunifiram a day over 3 doses.

#108 Mirage

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 03:05 PM

I take sunifiram noopept piracetam and aniracetam thrice daily. So, I think it seems pretty safe so far.


Describe your experience in details pls. How sunifiram differs from other racetams? What overall effects have you experienced from sunifiram?

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 12:12 PM

hello,

I have a reliable Chinese supplier and I would like to purchase:
- S-18986 (ampa) - 100 gr MOQ
- J147 (reverses memory deficits and slows Alzheimer's disease) - 100 gr MOQ
- Huperzine A 98% (memory and learning enhancement) - 10 gr MOQ
Quantities are very high for me, so if anyone is interested in these products we could buy them together and divide them.
The prices are very good


#110 NinefingerJoe

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 06:15 PM

What's your price quote for J147?

I know a lot of the neurogenic enthusiasts here have been trying to get ahold of that compound.

You might want to start a new thread about it, to keep things separate and simplified.

Edited by NinefingerJoe, 05 March 2015 - 06:18 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2015 - 05:27 PM

j147 - 10 gr $ 620,00 + shipping  fees







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