22 replies to this topic

[The Immortalist]

I really want to have this condition. I want it because I have a "babyish" face and my facial bones are not as developed as they should be. I'd rather not get cosmetic surgeries such as chin impants and jaw implants. When my face becomes as masculine as I want it to be I'll just get treatment for it.

Also my hands are small for a mans and I'd like to have bigger hands. It's also a hindrance in the weight room since my hands are smaller than most mens and can't grip barbells and dumbbells as well. My hands are as small as my mothers hands and I'm 5 inches taller than her. I'm 3 inches taller than my dad and his hands are bigger than mine. I also have tiny wrists.

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Acromegaly

How can I induce acromegaly in my body? Is it even possible?

Edited by The Immortalist, 20 January 2012 - 04:54 AM.

[rwac]

Is it just caused by you being chubby?

What are your testosterone levels like? Maybe increasing testosterone levels might help.

[Lufega]

It's comedy night at Longecity! I know someone who used growth hormone. Yeah, he got thick and wider, rather than getting 'roid big. His appearance also became visibly older. No good. Then there is this..

Too much growth hormone reduces life expectancy.

[The Immortalist]

Is it just caused by you being chubby?

What are your testosterone levels like? Maybe increasing testosterone levels might help.

No it is not. I have been at many different body-fat percentage in my life and I can tell you that it's not a bodyfat issue. It's to do with the bones in my lower face. On my profile view my chin is like 2 inches behind my upper lip so I have a receded chin.

How would increasing testosterone make much of a difference? Wouldn't I have to inject massive quantities to make any difference? I don't want a minor change to my facial structure I want a radical change.

Edited by The Immortalist, 20 January 2012 - 08:21 PM.

[The Immortalist]

It's comedy night at Longecity! I know someone who used growth hormone. Yeah, he got thick and wider, rather than getting 'roid big. His appearance also became visibly older. No good. Then there is this..

Too much growth hormone reduces life expectancy.

There have been tests in which GH-supermice live longer if they are given extra food in the form of sugar water.

?

Edited by The Immortalist, 20 January 2012 - 08:22 PM.

[zorba990]

If you really want to make a cosmetic change to your face, then plastic surgery would be a safer option. Barring major deformity, I wouldn't recommend it as a means to be happier with your appearance. I honestly would recommend some kind of therapy. Please don't take this as any kind of insult.
There are many people in hollywood desperately trying to get back to a baby-faced look and failing. Learn to love yourself.

[The Immortalist]

If you really want to make a cosmetic change to your face, then plastic surgery would be a safer option. Barring major deformity, I wouldn't recommend it as a means to be happier with your appearance. I honestly would recommend some kind of therapy. Please don't take this as any kind of insult.
There are many people in hollywood desperately trying to get back to a baby-faced look and failing. Learn to love yourself.

No worries, I don't take offence to your advice. Although I just don't agree with it because if there is something that can be done to improve someones appearance why not do it? And I don't get what you say about it not being a way to be happier with your appearance because if someone get's a cosmetic procedure done and it significantly improves their appearance it will make them happier no? The worst thing that could be done for someone with a major facial flaw is to do nothing about it in my opinion. Therapy to just brainwash them into forgetting about their flaw is just stupid because their still going to have the said flaw and it will still negatively affect their appearance.

Edited by The Immortalist, 20 January 2012 - 09:22 PM.

[rwac]

How would increasing testosterone make much of a difference? Wouldn't I have to inject massive quantities to make any difference? I don't want a minor change to my facial structure I want a radical change.

A strong jaw is a secondary sex characteristic, and is probably driven by testosterone and/or DHT. Additionally most pro athletes, bodybuilders, etc seem to have square jaws, probably due to steroid use so it is something that can be changed later in life.

A good start would be to find out what your Testosterone levels are, should be in upper half (at least) of the range, and see if those can be corrected.

[Lufega]

Ok, so you have a weak chin. Some pics would have helped to convey your message easier. Before you embark in this GH induced self-destructive rampage, first confirm that someone already tried and succesfully did this either in real life or in some controlled studies. Otherwise, surgery might be your best bet.

[The Immortalist]

How would increasing testosterone make much of a difference? Wouldn't I have to inject massive quantities to make any difference? I don't want a minor change to my facial structure I want a radical change.

A strong jaw is a secondary sex characteristic, and is probably driven by testosterone and/or DHT. Additionally most pro athletes, bodybuilders, etc seem to have square jaws, probably due to steroid use so it is something that can be changed later in life.

A good start would be to find out what your Testosterone levels are, should be in upper half (at least) of the range, and see if those can be corrected.

Ok it sounds like a good idea. Do you have any advice for checking hormone levels? What do I do just go to my family doctor and say "hey I want a complete hormone test"?

I'm not sure if I actually do have a deficiency in testosterone. In fact to me it seems like I have an excess of it in some ways yet in some ways it seems like I'm deficient... the way my body has grown seems to be very atypical. For example:

- I think I have pretty big feet for a male(13 inch US shoe size which is 11.69 inches), yet I have tiny ankles,

- my hands are very small and I have very slender fingers.(female characteristic)

- my wrists are very small as well at 6 inches

- I have a very thin waist(female characteristic)

- I have huge hips(female characteristic

- My waist to hip ratio is very low (probably about 0.65) so my figure looks womanly

- My shoulders are very wide so I have a v taper.....with huge hips. It's weird because my shoulders are as broad as my hips(a feminine trait) yet my shoulders are much broader than the average mans.

- My cheek bones on my face are very prominent(which is a masculine trait) and my brow ridge is also prominent(also a masculine trait).

- I have a small/short upturned nose(a very female trait)

- my lips are quite big and have a full appearance(a female characteristic).

- Yet my jaw and my chin look like an average young boy's would....

- I am also extremely hairy all around my body and I started growing facial hair at age 10. I could grow a full beard at age 15.
- According to wikipedia I am either 2 and a half or 3 and a half inches taller than the average canadian man at 6 feet tall.(tall stature being a male trait)

- I grow muscle extremely easily and I make extremely fast progress in gaining strength in the gym

- I also have gynocomastia that has never gone away even at low bodyfat percentages.

- personality wise I am have a very calm quiet, calculating personality but I get EXTREMELY aggressive mood swings at random times. I also get very angry easily at even the most trivial things.

- I also store fat in my body like a woman would. Most of the fat in my body is around my hips, thighs, buttocks and chest area. My abdomen get's spared fortunately.

- I have an extremely deep voice

- I have a very high vocal range from deep baritone to the very high ranges

- Not bragging but I think I have a larger penis size than average (6 inches erect).

So what is the cause of this atypical growth? It seems I have a very odd mix of male and female characteristics. What could I do to fix this to make myself more male than female? I loath female characteristics in a man. It's why I especially hate Justin Bieber. He looks exactly like a girl even though he's a male. I want to a pure male not some sort of a male/female hybrid creature....

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind the feminine features in my body that much. I just hate the feminine features in my face that's all.

Edited by The Immortalist, 20 January 2012 - 10:30 PM.

[corb]

So... you have an ectomorph body. Cry me a river, so do I. I never had the urge to take HGH though.

"he wants to live forever"
"he doesn't want to look young"
I agree with the dude with the domo-kun avatar, pure comedy.

Also I highly doubt drinking sorbet can extend your life.

[The Immortalist]

So... you have an ectomorph body. Cry me a river, so do I. I never had the urge to take HGH though.

"he wants to live forever"
"he doesn't want to look young"
I agree with the dude with the domo-kun avatar, pure comedy.

Also I highly doubt drinking sorbet can extend your life.

Nah I don't have an ectomorphic mody. Well in some ways I do and in some ways I don't. I can honestly tell you my body looks nothing like any of my friends who are ectomorphic. It's like I'm an equal mixture of ecto, meso and endo combined.

Ecto in my joints, and hands and the fact that I lose weight easily

Meso in my ability to easily gain muscle and my broad shoulders and thin waist

Endo in my hips and the fact that I gain fat very easily.

Edited by The Immortalist, 20 January 2012 - 10:38 PM.

[corb]

I'm pretty sure you are though.
Ectomorph. Leptomorph or Picnomorph subtype.



On the right.
Using my knowledge of human anatomy for something besides drawing porn. Who would've thunk it possible.

Edited by corb, 20 January 2012 - 11:00 PM.

[rwac]

Ok it sounds like a good idea. Do you have any advice for checking hormone levels? What do I do just go to my family doctor and say "hey I want a complete hormone test"?

That would be a good start. Perhaps you should test for Free Testosterone, estradiol, prolactin, Thyroid hormones, along with the usual hormone panel.

[The Immortalist]

I'm pretty sure you are though.
Ectomorph. Leptomorph or Picnomorph subtype.



On the right.
Using my knowledge of human anatomy for something besides drawing porn. Who would've thunk it possible.

I've never heard of the concept of a picnomorph or a leptomorph. Isn't the guy on the top right a mesomorph and the guy on the bottom right an ectomorph?

[The Immortalist]

Ok it sounds like a good idea. Do you have any advice for checking hormone levels? What do I do just go to my family doctor and say "hey I want a complete hormone test"?

That would be a good start. Perhaps you should test for Free Testosterone, estradiol, prolactin, Thyroid hormones, along with the usual hormone panel.

How expensive is it to get all of those hormones tested?

[rwac]

Probably a few 100 bucks, if your insurance doesn't cover it. You don't necessarily need to go to the doctor though, perhaps you could order it thru lef too.

Edited by rwac, 21 January 2012 - 01:03 AM.

[corb]

I've never heard of the concept of a picnomorph or a leptomorph. Isn't the guy on the top right a mesomorph and the guy on the bottom right an ectomorph?

They are. But there are 3 or 4 subtypes and combinations of subtypes and types are possible. In fact there are people who have characteristics of all body types. It's not something you can openly read about nowadays for some reason, I've only found information about it in old anatomy books and medical manuals for sportsmen.
There's a short articles about it on wiki in german http://de.wikipedia....onstitutionstyp

In your case my guess would be you'd be an ectomorph with pykniomorph? (I misread it the first time) characteristics.

Anyway, a small waist and small hands isn't anything out of the ordinary for an ectomorph.
Look at the japanese, a lot of them have your body build, and they don't have a problem with it. And they are short to top it off too. Shorter in that one place we men are particularly touchy about too.

I really wouldn't have a problem with you taking HGH if it was safe. But hormone therapies are never safe.
Can't you find another way to satisfy your bravado ? Buy a sports car perhaps ? That always works.

[Lufega]

Do you have crowded teeth ? Maybe you have an under developed mandible due to maternal malnutrition. Specially concerning vitamin a and K. that was one of the observations made by weston price. If that's the case, there's little you can do outside surgery.

Your description very closely describes some of the physical features found in Klinefelter syndrome. Not that I'm saying you have this or anything.

[The Immortalist]

Do you have crowded teeth ? Maybe you have an under developed mandible due to maternal malnutrition. Specially concerning vitamin a and K. that was one of the observations made by weston price. If that's the case, there's little you can do outside surgery.

Your description very closely describes some of the physical features found in Klinefelter syndrome. Not that I'm saying you have this or anything.

No I have very spaced out teeth. I need braces to close all the huge gaps(no I'm not missing teeth lol). I actually don't know if I have a underdeveloped mandible or not. It's probably just my chin that's my main problem.

It's quite possible that I could have Klinefelter syndrome. I just read about it on wikipedia and I have many of the characteristics of it. Except I don't have traits that could be associated with it such as learning disabilities or other major or minor neurological impairments and I have a high amount of bodyhair. My body type looks similar to the picture in the wikipedia article on klinefelters syndrome except I'm much more lean and muscular and my gyno isn't quite as severe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter's_syndrome

I'm going to get a karyotype test done as well. How much does it cost to get it done?

Edited by The Immortalist, 21 January 2012 - 06:19 AM.

[Lufega]

No idea. I have no experience with this directly, but maybe something like 23andme can pick it up. You could ask them first.

[nupi]

No it is not. I have been at many different body-fat percentage in my life and I can tell you that it's not a bodyfat issue. It's to do with the bones in my lower face. On my profile view my chin is like 2 inches behind my upper lip so I have a receded chin.

Do you also have overbite with that gap? That can be treated surgically but it is incredibly painful and you will not be eating anything but smoothies for 3-5 months. Not sure if I would do it again, had I known what was coming my way...

[Arch_NME]

Outside of the fact that this thread is completely ridiculous (as already mentioned by others); acromegaly is just you pituitary gland going into overdrive and producing excess human growth hormone. Therefore obviously if you really wanted to reproduce the effects you could just take a bunch of HGH. You can just get some and inject it straight into your veins. That will exactly reproduce the effects of this syndrome, there is no mystery here, it's pretty simple.

I think you should just get a tattoo of a dolphin on your forehead though. It will distract from your ugly face and it's a well known fact that chics dig dolphins. It's sure to be a conversasion starter anyway.

Edited by Arch_NME, 21 January 2012 - 11:24 AM.