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[PeopleOverCorporateProfit]

I recently got back into Hemi-Sync the gateway experience and have had some very interesting results. I also have a mind machine that is pretty interesting as well. Never tried i-doser though.

Curious what others experience with these are..and how far along they have gotten.

[brainslugged]

I am unfamiliar with Hemi-Sync or mind machines, but I have listened to binaurals and i-doser.

Binaurals, I like. If you want to use them, I would suggest listening to one that progresses from your current level to the desired one.

I-doser was crap. I listened to several of them with little to no effect. Plus, the science does not back them. Really I think the only thing that works about i-doser is the binaural aspect which they attempt to market as more drastic than really.

[AstralStorm]

Hello, I've done some experiments with binaural myself.
I recommend using comfortable in-ears and between 5 to 8 Hz binaural beat.
For a free software, check out gnaural. For non-free, Cool Edit/Adobe Audition has the tools.

I recommend using either equalized pink noise (increased high frequencies) or a tone sweep/melody. Using a constant tone is annoying and may affect hearing.

[arcane]

has anyone looked into isochronic tones?

[manic_racetam]

Gateway experience gave me quite a few tools for conscious control of... well, consciousness. It's a pretty trippy thing. I had a version aquired from the 7-seas, if you catch my drift matey. And I'm pretty sure the binaural aspect was compromised in that version. I noticed that the pulsing was in both ears and when they went through the part of, "this voice should be in your left ear..." part, it was in both ears.. just quieter in the right.

Even though it didn't seem to be true binaural it still was very effective at relaxation. I was never able to acheive OBE from that state, but got it quite a few times when waking up between sleep cycles. Really cool experience.

I also have the full series of "Project Meditation" which uses binaural, monoaural and a few different types of beats. It also has relaxing nature sounds in the background. I enjoy listening to them all night long while I sleep. Often times they envoke very interesting dreamscapes at night.

I'd agree with the above poster about i-doser. Def a marketing scam IMO... and I found some of their mixes to have disturbing results (anxiety for the most part), which makes me think they just splice things together randomly and have a fast paced tempo for the supposedly stimulating effects and a slower one for the "downers".

One very cool hemi-sync brand track that I bought is called "brain-sync" with Kelly Howell. That one takes me into levels of amazing relaxation.

[nezxon]

I've tried a variety of the binaural programs. I enjoyed the Gateway Experience series for a bit, I plan to revisit it soon. I used the open source software (sbagen) that I understand i-doser to be based on. I thought it was basic binaural technology, nothing fancy, a few tracks higher quality than others. Even some of the worst were still fairly effective at changing brain wave states even if in somewhat seemingly random patterns some times. I doubt i-doser can approach anywhere near their marketing claims, it's just two fundamentally different experiences in my opinion.

[Gecko]

Has anyone found any good research on binaural beats? I've had a quick look and the best I've found showing any cognitive improvements is the following study, but there doesn't seem to be much research backing most of the claims?

Binaural auditory beats affect vigilance performance and mood.

Lane JD, Kasian SJ, Owens JE, Marsh GR.

Abstract

When two tones of slightly different frequency are presented separately to the left and right ears the listener perceives a single tone that varies in amplitude at a frequency equal to the frequency difference between the two tones, a perceptual phenomenon known as the binaural auditory beat. Anecdotal reports suggest that binaural auditory beats within the electroencephalograph frequency range can entrain EEG activity and may affect states of consciousness, although few scientific studies have been published. This study compared the effects of binaural auditory beats in the EEG beta and EEG theta/delta frequency ranges on mood and on performance of a vigilance task to investigate their effects on subjective and objective measures of arousal. Participants (n = 29) performed a 30-min visual vigilance task on three different days while listening to pink noise containing simple tones or binaural beats either in the beta range (16 and 24 Hz) or the theta/delta range (1.5 and 4 Hz). However, participants were kept blind to the presence of binaural beats to control expectation effects. Presentation of beta-frequency binaural beats yielded more correct target detections and fewer false alarms than presentation of theta/delta frequency binaural beats. In addition, the beta-frequency beats were associated with less negative mood. Results suggest that the presentation of binaural auditory beats can affect psychomotor performance and mood. This technology may have applications for the control of attention and arousal and the enhancement of human performance.

Edited by Gecko, 14 February 2012 - 09:20 AM.

[parsons]

I-doser didn't do much for me

[PeopleOverCorporateProfit]

I've been busy with school, and watching basketball..but my experience when getting back into the Gateway experience has included waves/pulses of light (with my eyes closed) a very literal expanded awareness that I could control, and (how do I explain this one) a pulsating of my view of the blackness with my eyes closed..I had a more complete awareness of what I was "viewing" with my eyes closed and this thing I was viewing was pulsating/pumping like a heart.

[MangekyōPeter]

try Neuroprogrammer 3, available for free for 30 days (best brainwave software around) ...

Isochronic tones are the way to go.

also Brain Evolution System levels are supposedly good if you thoroughly follow each of the levels consecutively for 1 month each...

[Mashugana]

I have a mac (not windows, and not running windows via bootcamp or parallels). any suggestions on the best of the best for that, since NeuroProgrammer is windows only? Thanks!

[Ampa-omega]

there was this one thing called the x mind series that seemed to really work for me, i have to give it a try again. amazon.com may also have samples of meditation cds if you are looking.

Edited by Ampa-omega, 18 April 2012 - 05:09 PM.