Proof is believing that the internal combustion engine in my car will start when I turn the key, it does, I have no idea how an internal combustion engine works other than what others have told me, but it works. I now have a powerful presence in my life that I can rely on and it's effects in my life are positive. All the information I've received about the uses and effects of a motor vehicle in my life have been proven to be truths by it's actions and results I have experienced.
I'm told god will positively affect my life, I'm told this by his word in his book the bible, I'm told this by christians who constantly praise his effects in their lives and tell me to come into their lord and saviour for these effects. I'm told all manner of wonderful things about god.
When I turn the key on god there is nothing, not even a spark, a churning of the engine alerting to a possible flat battery, the engine doesn't even make that dreadful click sound when there is no battery or spark, there is nothing, silence pervades, I wait for a sign that there is an effect, I try again, there is still nothing, nothing has changed, nothing has happened and nothing is happening that wouldn't have happened if I hadn't turned the key on god.
There is no evidence that what has been promised about god, by god, and by his followers is true or correct.
My experience with turning the key on god has been, no effect, no revelation, no conversation, change either positive or negative, just an empty lifeless silence of nothingness.
I notice no positive changes in christians lives that they purport to be the effects from god that I don't see in non believers. I see what appears to be just their manipulated experience of life to suit their beliefs. I see them alter truth and reality to suit their beliefs. I see them grasp at all manner of excuses to support that they are experiencing any effect from their beliefs. A desperation to make true that which they believe drives them to leave logic and sound reasoning skills behind to make their beliefs true in their mind.
I see them respond to this being pointed out to them by making up excuses and apologising for god and fabricating their knowledge of how god operates, to protect themselves from the obvious glaring truth that any effects they attribute to god is in fact a placebo effect.
I conclude by claiming there is no proof of god.
How many times do I have to point out this is not the topic? Look at the topic Evidence for Christianity for some evidence which has a lot of name calling and logical fallacies by those who didn't want to hear it. Evidence for atheism, not "Proof." But I have said this before.
I told you already, your thread has been hijacked and the topic has become multifaceted, just like any discussion.
It's time you stop using your security blanket protection device of listing the threads title to avoid answering or responding to comments you can't address or posts that make you uncomfortable.
And you wonder why you get named called really ???
WANKER POS !!!
