THe reason I ask is because I sometimes combine picamilion (which is supposed to be a way more potent vasodialator than vinpocetine) with alcar. I think the vaso-dialation and constriction that our noots do inside our brains is too often overlooked when discussing safety. I find your descriptions witty and fascinating, would like to hear your rationale for some more of these :O
Picamilon more potent vasodilator as vinpocetine? Are you sure? I use take my vinpocetine in Neurostim, a blend sold by Mindnutrition, I wonder why they put vinpocetine instead of picamilon. To me I didn't feel anything particular vasodilation-talking with picamilon while with vinpocetine I can clearly feel the effects.
But I guess that's because picamilon is bodywide while vinpocetine is centered in the brain.
I've always thought picamilon was a stupid russian nootropic, I found it totally ineffective until I realize it is very potent for meditation and mind alteration, it makes binaural beats as strong as isochronic tones really! Maybe the same effects can be reached with alcohol or any other GABA agonist but that's picamilon that strongly changed my EEG.
Honestly I don't think that taking picamilon or vinpocetine at normal doses will do anything harmful in the domain of vasodilation. However possible side-effects of moderatly too much vasodilation is for instance running nose. I experience that sometimes when I take too high doses of ginkgo biloba.
It can also cause insomnia, vasoconstriction does too, why? I don't really see why but I guess it's because much more nutrients reach the brain due to more bloodflow overall excitatory neurotransmitters such as ephedrine, dopamine and so on that stimulates your brain.
I already took several vasodilators, not drugs specifically meant to vasodilate but several drugs that all have vasodilatory actions and it didn't cause me any potential harm.
I think that anyway vasodilation is usually needed for a lot people, for people living in cold countries (cold causes vasoconstriction and heat vasodilation) but also for people who take coffee and many other drugs that cause vasoconstriction. (ibuprofen for example)
You can go on this mix, picamilon will never be too much vasodilating, it's vasodilating properties are likely due to its action on GABA and nothing else.
This nutty took 2g of picamilon and honestly I almost reached those dosages and it didn't harm me at all. I wonder if picamilon is truly something worth it, probably another CCCP made drug to praise Mother Russia. They already made that with phenibut, most useless drug to me ever made. However noopept is a real success.
i went 3 times to hospital because of extreme shaking, panic attacks and brain lesion but it went fine i don't think it's bcz of the stack the week after the hospital i tried the megadosage and went very fine
i had extreme diarrhea too and wouldn't stop for a whole month i reduced ginkgo biloba and bacopa dosage and it work
i also had extreme insomnia for over 2 weeks i dont know the time i didn't see time pass, i couldn't sleep one minute during megadosage for over 2 weeks
the insomnia didn't impair my brain but i lost all my past memories those longer than 5 years but the rest is very fine
it went down after the two week i could sleep 2h a day
i continued upping dosage in july and today i can sleep 3h-4h a day and im very fine
the only inconvenient is the price, it was many hundreds euros a month which is not a lot for my job but now i started buying bulk product from china in higher dose to pay less.
Jesus, you've gone totally insane. Go heal yourself please. Stop the craziness and taper the damn stack and go to ER get some help.
Brain lesions, WTF are you serious man? And it doesn't bother you more than that? Gosh, you destroyed your brain and let me tell you this damage is irreversible.
Don't you realize how much glutamatergic bullshit you've taken? Glutamate at mild doses is good for your memory but when it comes in excess it destroys your cells, that's excitoxicity and no wonder why you sleep 3 hours the night only, your neurologic system is completely fucked up.
The best you can do is stop making more brain damage before those brain lesions become holes.
Edited by renfr, 30 July 2012 - 11:05 PM.
