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[vined]

Hi,

I used to write all the time, and come up ideas so easily, and the middle of half of 2011 I started to party really hard for about 6 months doing all sorts of drugs every weekend and now I'm actually wanting to write my novel I had planned to early last year and I just can't write anymore, my creativity is has lessened a ridiculously amount which is so upsetting. I'm only 19 so hopefully with nootropics I can speed up some recovery or at least return to a past mental state?

So what's a good stack to take to help me? I'm willing to buy quite a few to aid with this as I need to write again :(

Thanks everything

V

Edit: I found this mixed powder of 10% each Piracetam, Aniracetam, L-Tyrosine, Sulbutiamine, L-phenylalanine, Choline Bitartrate, Alpha GPC Alpha, DMAE, GABA, L-Leucine - says take 3g of it twice per day which I could take with Galantamine and more Piracetam - let me know

Edited by vined, 31 March 2012 - 02:24 PM.

[gamesguru]

Would't recommend buying that powder. I'd recommend you start with just piracetam and ALCAR, keeping a small bit of choline on hand in case you need it. I wouldn't try huperzine or galantamine yet. Galantamine is more expensive, but it doesn't seem to have the drawback that huperzine does: NMDAR antagonism.

[vined]

Would't recommend buying that powder. I'd recommend you start with just piracetam and ALCAR, keeping a small bit of choline on hand in case you need it. I wouldn't try huperzine or galantamine yet. Galantamine is more expensive, but it doesn't seem to have the drawback that huperzine does: NMDAR antagonism.

Thanks for the reply. But a couple of years back I tried piracetam to help with studying and I don't think it did much, maybe it will be better now for creativity though as I didn't have this problem then and ALCAR made me feel sleepy, so probably won't use that again.

I just need a good stack to repair my brain, mostly for creativity- of course the other benefits (intelligence, memory, concentration, focus) would definitely help.

I found this stack through searching the forums for creativity

"Tyrosine: 750~1000mg
SAM-e: 400mg (double strength)
Lion's Mane 2x500mg(one morning, one night)
Piracetam 2x800mg (one morning, one afternoon)
Choline Bitratrate 400-600mg
& Galantamine 4mg (2-4 times per week)"

Edited by vined, 31 March 2012 - 03:38 PM.

[gamesguru]

Perhaps it's time to start with a more potent racetam, such as aniracetam or pramiracetam. I would consider trying bacopa and/or rhodiola at night. You might also want to consider more radical substances, such as D- and/or L-Deprenyl, hydergine, mematine, and other dopaminergics. I would be careful with the tyrosine, as it might cause desensitization. I would also take less choline if I could.

I don't see the drowsiness from ALCAR to be insuperable, like other drugs'. It seems to work well with the ginsengs (for stress&energy) and with cholinergics (for mental processing).

[Junk Master]

Aniracetam plus high dose piracetam and forget the choline. Also, occasional modifinil (no more than once a week) with phenibut. You want a bit of hypomania, no anxiety.

Frankly, I doubt your drug use has anything to do with your lack of creativity. You might be mildly depressed and should consider some cognitive behavioral therapy and meditation. Don't give up on the meditation until you do at least 3x sessions per week for six weeks.

[hippocampus]

I'd add some usual brain nutrients to recover from drug damage, starting with fish oil, zinc, magnesium. It may not be very helpful in terms of creativity, though.

[vined]

Ooh okay cheers all, I guess I'll do Piracetam together with Aniracetam, and I'll also look into bacopa and rhodiola.
RE: "Aniracetam plus high dose piracetam and forget the choline" What doses do you (or anyone else) recommend?

Also found this to add for writing "100mg of Picamillon combines well with 500mg Pyritinol" Thoughts?

[gamesguru]

I would avoid long-term use of picamilon, since it will decrease your natural ability to cope with anxiety. It might calm you down and make expression more natural, but I don't know anyone who uses it regularly. Pyritinol probably becomes two molecules of vitamin B6 in the brain, which is a cofactor for GABA, DA, glutamate, histamine, cysteine, niacin, & others. It will probably give you a small boost in comprehension/rxn time, but it's not shown to improve memory or other cognitive faculties. On the up side, it probably won't result in any significant receptor desensitization, since it's only a cofactor, not a precursor or anything. In my experience, neither compound is worth its price, but try them out!

I also don't mix aniracetam and piracetam because they don't compliment each other for me. I use them in the same day sometimes, but not at the same time. A typical dose for me is 2400-3600 mg piracetam and 800 mg aniracetam. I usually use 2-4 doses daily. Others seem to mix them without problems.

[vined]

Thank you for that reply!!

One more thing I read about which could be good, perhaps instead of picamilon/pyritinol, was "vinpocetine 10mgx3"?

[kevinseven11]

Which drugs did you abuse. Thats the most important question to be answered.

[vined]

Which drugs did you abuse. Thats the most important question to be answered.

Ah I'm no drug addict or anything just had quite a party second semester haha (fun but as a result didn't go to uni and had to drop 2 subjects ). Ketamine and MD/MDMA most weeks & sometimes coke, also last couple of months weed most days and occasionally acid. Haven't really been thinking about writing or even wanting to, but it took me long enough to realise i don't write anymore when prior to mid 2011 (when it started) I had written hundreds of poems/short prose in a mere few months, now I'm empty which is depressing as.. Though the upside is I've become numb, so I'm far less emotional compared to a year ago.

Edited by vined, 01 April 2012 - 11:53 PM.

[kevinseven11]

So revamp all the downregulated circuits, and add a lil extra long term booster such as (lions mane) or (fish oil). Perhaps you have some oxidative damage in your brain from glutamate and dopamine excitotoxicy. Even if, time will repair alot of the damage. A few parties affect little, but too many will screw you up for the time being.

[gamesguru]

Vinpocetine is terrible to use long-term, unless you're schizophrenic, or a healthy person looking to become depressed and confused. It inhibits VMAT, which is basically the mechanism of action of Resperine. If you want to write creatively, take it no more than once a week.

I agree with kevin that most brain damage resulting from drugs/party can be practically reversed, to a lesser extent in the elderly. Meth is one exception, since it is such a potent toxin to dopaminergic cells (5x more potent than amphetamine)! Expecting your nucleus accumbens to recover after meth abuse is like expecting your fingers to grow back after an accident operating an oil rig.

Edited by dasheenster, 02 April 2012 - 04:30 PM.

[vined]

Thanks for the reply guys, but what do you mean by " revamp all the downregulated circuits"?
& "practically reversed" do you also mean by taking fish oil / Lions mane or is what I'm already planning to take sufficient Piracetam, etc?

& I'll cross vinpocetine off my list :p

[vined]

Quickly (so much questions sorry haha) if I'm going to take Rhodiola every night, what's a good dose?

Edited by vined, 03 April 2012 - 04:23 PM.

[noopeptisgood]

Check out the thread of Uridine, choline and DHA. I think a powerful choline source like alpha-gpc could help you think. And maybe try ordering a small amount of a few racetams and see which ones give you the best effect.