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#1 CaptainFuture

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:32 PM


Hi,

after googling "fullerene C60 buy" I found this really weird site. What surprised me however is the long article they wrote about Fullerene C60. They not only speak about relevant studies but also about toxicity. Their price will be around $9 for 8mg of 99.95% fullerene C60. I find it interesting that first companies try to sell it. Will other companies pick up on this and how soon will we need a prescription for fullerene C60?

http://owndoc.com/an...ral-anti-aging/

Fullerene toxicity is a relatively new field of interest since fullerenes are been added to cosmetics, albeit in infitesimal amounts. More would be a costly affair because C60, the simplest and most “perfect” fullerene, is priced – retail in low quantities – roughly the same as gold, gram-for-gram. But then they can still legally put “Buckminsterfullerene” on their fancy labels, which cost sometimes more to produce than the product in the jar. Lawmakers wanted to know whether fullerenes could somehow be harmful to the environment. And the pharmaceutical industry is very interested in their potential use and toxicity as well. Plenty of toxicity trials have been done and it is now known that fullerenes C60 and C70 cause bad side effects and toxicity when they are ingested as nanoparticles only. This happens when they are suspended into water, as opposed to dissolved in oil. So it’s important to dissolve the buckyballs fully and filter out any stubbornly remaining nanoparticles. C60 does not dissolve in water, so all watery suspensions of C60 are toxic. Chemists have designed and created modified versions of the C60 molecule, with a skippy-ball like “handle”, so that that protruding “handle-molecule” with its hydrophillic end facilitates the solution of the C60. However, also these modified fullerenes are more or less toxic, so far. Medicines are usually more toxic than the natural substance they are based on.
Another problem with fullerene C60 is that solvents are used to dissolve, extract and purify them. Some of these solvents, such as Tetrahydrofurane, are highly toxic and some of them are not. An initial suspicion of fullerene toxicity was later deemed to be the result of the solvent, not the fullerene itself. Such solvents can remain locked (typically 1% to 3%) into the C60 crystal matrix and only sintering under a vacuum can remove most of them, so it is important to use non-toxic solvents, and/or properly remove them, in the production of C60 (products) for human use. Our C60 has been purified using Ethyl acetate – a low-toxicity solvent used in decaffeinating coffee, and naturally present in fruits and wine in higher concentrations than our C60, in which only molecular traces remain, after drying in our vacuum oven.
Big Pharma is working to patent a water-soluble designer-fullerene and sell it extremely expensively as a life-extension drug. They will have little trouble persuading the FDA, their enforcer, to ban all other natural fullerenes for being “toxic”, just like the FDA still claims natural Stevia is “toxic” but they allow synthetic Stevia to be sold as the Truvia brand. C60 is naturally produced by camphor flames so they can’t patent it. Camphor is widely used in Hindu religious ceremonies. Hindus worship a holy flame by burning camphor, which forms an important part of many religious ceremonies. Camphor is used in the Mahashivratri celebrations of Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction and (re)creation. As a natural pitch substance, it burns cool without leaving an ash residue, which symbolizes consciousness. Big Pharma “assumes” that only water-soluble Buckminsterfullerene will be bioavailable, but that’s a ruse to rake in the dough on a copyrighted, trademarked, patented, monopolized drug for the elite. The cell walls are lipids and lipofullerene (C60 dissolved in the long-chain fatty acids of olive oil) therefore is readily absorbed by the cells and ends up where it is most needed – provenly in the mitochondrial bilayer membranes, where it will neutralize ROS (reactive oxygen species) like no other molecule, because C60 can function as an antioxidant in all perpetuity, it is not “used up” by performing its antioxidant action because it can capture high-energy electrons all the way up to Beta-radiation level, reduce their energy in the C60 matrix and drain them by electrical instead of chemical means...



#2 zorba990

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:44 PM

Charcoal pills are already sold over the counter (yes I know this isn't exactly what C60 as lipofullerene is). I see no reason why "oil based charcoal pills" could not be sold. The problems (in the form of unwanted FDA attention) mainly come from unscrupulous vendors claiming drug effects from supplements. The wise consumer will have researched things on their own and the claims (website or bottle) are really unneeded.

http://www.iherb.com...sules/1089?at=0

Another route might be for someone to file a use patent on C60 as an oil 'preservative'.
Here's an example of its use with a vitamin E compound:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2598771/

C60 is probably too easy to make to be stopped if it turns out to have good health benefits. Big Pharma will probably just try to create something better that is patentable -- and more power to them if they can do it -- just leave the other stuff alone and move along.

Click HERE to rent this advertising spot for C60 HEALTH to support Longecity (this will replace the google ad above).

#3 CaptainFuture

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:19 PM

Your arguments sound very reasonable to me. We probably would profit, if some companies pick up on lipofullerenes, through quality standards and less risk of toxicity caused from solvents.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:51 PM

Can't you just make fullerenes by vaporizing graphite in a vacuum?
"Electric voltage is applied to two carbon rods, (just touching), an arc will develop between them. If the arc is maintained in helium or argon (instead of in air) clouds of black smoky carbon soot are produced. It turns out that at the correct arc temperature and gas pressure up to 10 % of the black soot is C60"
You can substitute the gas with any gas even void.
You can then extract that soot with DMSO (You can obtain on amazon) and have pure red c60(As pure as you can at home).

Edited by kevinseven11, 10 May 2012 - 10:59 PM.

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#5 Wanderer2

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:07 AM

Does anyone have a solid online store where you can get the real thing in it's best potency?

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

(antique thread resurrection)

If you do a google search with terms like c60 and olive oil, it shouldn't take long to find one of the two sites that sell c60-olive oil in a ready-to-use form. One is in California, the other is in Switzerland. Both are reliable, selling essentially equivalent products. If you spend enough time in the c60health forum, you can find threads on making your own c60-oo. If you just want to try it out, the best approach is to buy a small bottle from whichever supplier is closest to you.

#7 Wanderer2

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

Thanks for the info. I searched like you suggested. I found a website by Sarah Vaughter. Much about the study, and same site as the link provided above. Is that one of the places that you were speaking of?

#8 Iporuru

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:23 PM

Yeah, that's one of the sites niner spoke about. I've tried it and it's reliable.

#9 Mind

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:46 PM

I have ordered from the other supplier. They are reliable as well, IMO.

#10 Wanderer2

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:36 AM

Thank you very much everyone. I always have a hard time determining what online sites are reliable and which are just scams.

#11 TheFountain

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 09:14 PM

I have ordered from the other supplier. They are reliable as well, IMO.

Could you please private message me the supplier? Thanks.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

SV gives good customer service. Ive ordered 4 bottles from her and they have all been delivered in prompt time and well packaged.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 12:58 PM

Hi guys,
I have been trying to buy some commercially C60 but I cant find any been sold on sarah vaughters site(momentarily) and
as I live in europe the fee alone for shipping from the other facility in california is expensive could anyone shed up light on this
Thanks
Cathal

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:04 PM

Seems like the webpage has changed they only offer the derma Products the rest is gone like the skin fungi treatment and of course the c60. Maybe you should email her and ask instead

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:32 PM

No worries I think. Clicking around I got to it just fine:

http://shop.owndoc.c...lls-in-oil.html

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:50 PM

Thanks Adami,
I have emailed her, BTW Patrick I have tried that link and I have got the same as Adaml the C60 products aren't displayed did you manage to come across them as all I can see are Derma products. Sorry for the questions
Thanks
Cathal

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 03:41 PM

try this link: http://c60antiaging.com/ and then click on the link "Buy C60 in olive oil" that's right above the big picture of the bottle. It should then go to the purchase page on VW. At least for me it does :)

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:15 AM

I have previously ordered from SV and ready for a reorder. I've never heard of an online business going on vacation but it's looks like they did - until the 23rd:

Attached File  SV.jpg   75.27KB   12 downloads

http://shop.owndoc.c...lls-in-oil.html

Guess I'll wait to see if they return to business as usual or will explore other sources.

Edited by Breestyle, 15 August 2013 - 04:19 AM.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:01 PM

I have previously ordered from SV and ready for a reorder. I've never heard of an online business going on vacation but it's looks like they did - until the 23rd:

Attached File  SV.jpg   75.27KB   12 downloads

http://shop.owndoc.c...lls-in-oil.html

Guess I'll wait to see if they return to business as usual or will explore other sources.


http://www.carbon60o...m/products.html

USA produced and shipped. I've used both and I prefer Carbon60's. I tastes more like what high quality EVOO should taste like and the color is distinctly more purple like the original Baati experiment.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:05 PM

Carbon's C60 seems to be the choice of many, I think I am going to switch over for my next order. Once of the things that bugged me about my first order with SV was that when the package arrived it had been shipped from some eastern bloc country (Romania maybe, I can't remember) I have a little trouble reconciling that with the production methods they describe as being done in their UK office. Why would a UK made product ship from an eastern bloc country?
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#21 Breestyle

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:18 AM

What I've ascertained from this forum is that both companies are reputable. As long as the quality is there I don't have a problem with the shipping country of origin (in my case it was Prague).

FWIW
SV states: "99.5% C60 from Solaris in Canada, vacuum-over dried to >99.95% in lab"
Carbon states: "purified, SENS derived, highest quality" no specific percentages - from what I can find on their website.

However, while ideally it would nice to purchase domestically, after some quick math found that Carbon's price is actually higher per milligram than SV (even with the shipping) unless you are buying/storing large quantities of 10 bottles (800 mg) - which I am not - since for now, I've settled in at a comfortable dosage of <30 mg per month (including my dog). Calculations were made by cost per mg (not ml) since the product sizes are different from each company.

I'm certainly interested in exploring any noteworthy differences in products but not quite ready to completely forgo the cost factor.

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 02:30 AM

Carbon's C60 seems to be the choice of many, I think I am going to switch over for my next order. Once of the things that bugged me about my first order with SV was that when the package arrived it had been shipped from some eastern bloc country (Romania maybe, I can't remember) I have a little trouble reconciling that with the production methods they describe as being done in their UK office. Why would a UK made product ship from an eastern bloc country?


FWIW, the (former) Eastern Bloc is no more. Romania is a full member of the European Union. I thought SV was located in Switzerland?

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 10:34 AM

They are in Switzerland. I was speaking off memory (which usually doesn't serve me very well!). Prague is where the shipment came from. Thanks that was enough to jog my memory.

Since my curiousity was peaked I dug around the website and found this buried in there, which satisfies my original question:

"Dispatch Center

Our three dispatch centers are in the EU (Spain and Czech Republic), so there are no customs delays to EU countries."

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