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#151 JuneBug_1983

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 01:09 AM

ive been using Nyles7 for a while now but i just today came across the newmind.com supplier and have seen in this thread that people have had bad issues with newmind in the past.

anyone using newmind.com as of today? good product or just stick with nyles7? I cant afford to order small amounts anymore but i dont see a $33.88 price for 5grams offered by nyles. 2grams for nyles is almost $33 already and I could benefit from the extra 3g's if newmind is a solid source.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 03:19 AM

So, I decided to put in a sample order of 1g of Tianeptine Sodium from Newmind. I'll do a review since I've been looking for a decent supplier for a while. The pictures aren't great (5MP camera); but, everything you see is what I got.

Let me say that I am really pleased with shipping. Got the package in two days and no hitch. The packaging is great and I like the outer looks of the package.

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The contents were neatly packed and secured. As you can see below.
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Two scoops were included which is nice.
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It is late; but, I will see how are the effects of the Tianeptine tomorrow. Let's hope this is a winner. =]
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so how was this batch? I am going thru Nyles7 and I would like to find a cheaper source. 



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 01:16 AM

 

So, I decided to put in a sample order of 1g of Tianeptine Sodium from Newmind. I'll do a review since I've been looking for a decent supplier for a while. The pictures aren't great (5MP camera); but, everything you see is what I got.

Let me say that I am really pleased with shipping. Got the package in two days and no hitch. The packaging is great and I like the outer looks of the package.

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The contents were neatly packed and secured. As you can see below.
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Two scoops were included which is nice.
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It is late; but, I will see how are the effects of the Tianeptine tomorrow. Let's hope this is a winner. =]
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so how was this batch? I am going thru Nyles7 and I would like to find a cheaper source. 

 

Every time I've ordered from Newmind they've delivered. No qualms with them. 



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 01:20 PM

I ordered 3 bottles of neuro - lift (12.5mg tianeptine) from Smart Drugs for Thought on Monday.

 

It's now Thursday, and it's still listed as "processing...." starting to wonder.-



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

I ordered 3 bottles of neuro - lift (12.5mg tianeptine) from Smart Drugs for Thought on Monday.

 

It's now Thursday, and it's still listed as "processing...." starting to wonder.-

 I just went thru newmind.com and I got my stuff in exactly 2 days as the shipping info says. It's the same exact stuff in the purple capsules that you bought. Ive ordered the purple tianeptine capsules from Smart Drugs for Thought  before with amazon.com and I remember waiting a few days before it actually shipped out so yeah, I had do to the long wait too. 

 

After trying the pre-made capsules I would highly suggest cutting out the pre-made ones and get the tianeptine  in bulk powder from Newmind.com or there are some places on ebay as well that sell it in  bulk as well. I feel like I actually get what I paid for for the 1gram or 5 gram purchases.The bottles come with 30 pills at 12.5mg a pill which comes out to be 375mg per bottle at $17.95 which is the same price as bulk grams which is 1000mg, so you get the same as 3 bottles worth of the Smart Drugs for Thought tianeptine. As you will see, it's recommended and suggested that you take 1 of the 12.5mg capsules 3 times a day so that means that you get a roughly 10 day supply per bottle which after tolerance builds turns into like 5 days for $18 which is pretty damn pricey for me personally. 

 

So look into that instead, Most places send you a micro scoop for the powder and its water soluble so you can mix it in a little water and drink it and you're good to go. 

 

 

anywho, good luck on your adventure with Tianeptine


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Posted 17 April 2014 - 06:35 PM

Thanks!

 

I'll have to take back my previous comment on Smart Drugs for Thought. Even though it shows my order as "processing", I had an email in my spam folder from stamps.com and they sent it right away and it's out for delivery as we speak.

 

JuneBug, how do you know that the Sodium Salt is what SDFT uses? If so, purchasing 50 grams would give me 50,000 / 12.5 = 4000 dose. Now / 3 = 1,333 days worth, about 17 cents a day! Much much better.


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 06:53 PM

Mine indeed did arrive, and I started taking it yesterday. It's definitely doing something, so I believe it is the real thing!


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:18 PM

Nice! @SearchingForAnswers I've reordered more Tianeptine and Sunifiram, I'm finding the two to be something of a dynamic-duo in terms of thought/mood enhancement.



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 12:53 AM

Maybe I'll try that, or with unifram when I have some extra money.

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 07:51 PM

SDfT's Sunifiram is like 18 bucks, and they are running some email promotion right now for a discounted shipping upgrade or something like that (not too sure tho). Definitely recommend stacking Tianeptine with Sunifiram, it's honestly one of the more intense nootropic stacks I've tampered with and for only being two things it's kinda OP (overpowered). Start tossing in Phenylpiracetam/Noopept/Oxiracetam/Adrafinil and you get a megapowerful stack that I've had a few friends call speedy but not edgy. If you were closer I'd give you some to try :/ dang state boundaries and the lack of teleportation.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 02:41 AM

Yes, as I can afford it I'm going to try different things. My goal is to alleviate my depression without overpriced, harmful prescriptions.

I am hoping I can get close,to the effects of armodafinil without the,nervous edge it imparts (I can get sever,somnolence during the middle of they for no apparent reason).

Besides, insurance won't pay for the armodafinil without going through more expensive sleep tests (even with good insurance) and they make it a hassle. Also my Dr. Isn't going to renew it without the same.

Skipped it today though, used the coluracetam and the tianeptine alone; I was kind of foggy early on, but later in the day I tried 40 instead of 20mgs colu and felt fantastic, a complete lifting of my depression. The is EXTREMELY rare for me!

The pessimist in me says it can't last, but we'll see. Perhaps the addition of sunifram/unifram will help if it becomes ineffective.

Think I need a good scale in order to cap my own and save money.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 08:38 PM

The money saved from self capping isn't all that great. Take the cost of the capsules themselves and what ever the value of your time is and see how much of a difference it really is. I know for me it wasn't worth it, considering the amount of nootropics I take and how often I was ordering 1000 pack bags of various capsule sizes and paying the shipping for all of that.

Besides...I don't trust storing chemicals for long periods of time in tubs/jars. The chemist in me screams "OH NO THEY ARE WEAKENING DAILY!"

Sunifiram is definitely awesome with tianeptine. I haven't gotten a chance to try coluracetam yet (at all) but I definitely will be soon hopefully.

 

*Fingers crossed on big money big money, no whammy no whammy*



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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:30 AM

The money saved from self capping isn't all that great. Take the cost of the capsules themselves and what ever the value of your time is and see how much of a difference it really is. I know for me it wasn't worth it, considering the amount of nootropics I take and how often I was ordering 1000 pack bags of various capsule sizes and paying the shipping for all of that.
 

 I agree with Sanguine in large measure.  I would add another problem which is that one must hold one's nose just right with the cheap milligram scales to achieve +/- 1-2mg. accuracy.  I do not go under 13 mg. but also do not attempt to remove powder from the capsule unless it is over 16 mg.  It is just too much hassle and is too time-consuming to play add/subtract games to get to 13 mg. each time.  Besides, a pdoc once told me that the FDA permits generic manufacturers (for drugs in general) to go +/- 20% with the active ingredient(s).  Using this protocol, 1 g. is never 80 doses, always much less.

 

I would not even bother and would gladly pay more for Stablon or another of the Servier brands as I did before the Turkish suppliers dried up.  Now, I cannot handle the financial diceyness of the Indian suppliers.  They do not use well-known third-party credit card transaction processors and cannot even be bothered with shipment inquiries for at least 30 days.

 

As soon as one strays away from the brand name manufactured product, a big trust gap inevitably presents itself.  That gap is probably even greater for pre-capped powder because one is swallowing something without the benefit of seeing the color, being able to taste, or feeling the consistency.  I can recognize tianeptine sodium because of its color and unique gooiness when wet.  In fact, once I allowed humidity to get into a container of powder.  You can kiss it goodbye at that point because it turns into something akin to dried superglue.  When that happens there is no way to weigh it that I know of.  Best to keep it in an air-tight container full of moisture absorbing packets/capsules left over from other meds/supplements.  Nyles7 continues to be extremely trustworthy as to product quality, although his practically instantaneous shipping time slowed down a bit for my last order.

 

Empty gelatin capsule cost is a non-issue for me as my local vitamin/supplement store carries #1 size at something like $7/500 or so.  The big cost, as Sanguine says, is the fill-time.  I dread it each week.  Worse for me, though, is the stress of dealing with the few remaining name-brand suppliers of Stablon and/or Servier's other trade names for tianeptine sodium.  It is such a weird artifact of the U.S. health system that such an effective antidepressant is unrecognized here due to its generic status.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 06:41 PM

I think my biggest concern with the self capping is not just cost, its the possiblity that one of our many overzealous federal agencies may wish to ensure we can't get it without a prescription. And since it seems the Parent company that owns the tianeptine patents has no interest in going through our very expensive, time consuming approval process, it just won't be available.

 

And while I can afford to buy a bulk amount of powder, I certainly cannot afford to purchase the bottles of capsules in bulk.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 07:58 PM

Well unless you're capping for resale you won't need to buy any bottles. Maybe save an old bottle and write over it with sharpie so you know what it really is.

I think the main reason Tianeptine isn't well known, is because big pharma makes more money pushing SSRI's that can cause new problems thus generate new money, as opposed to using a medication that is beneficial without having some behind the scenes risk/cost.



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Posted 29 April 2014 - 03:58 PM

New Tianeptine supplier.

 

http://tht.co/tianeptime.html


Edited by yadayada, 29 April 2014 - 03:58 PM.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 03:09 AM

Well, the couleracetam / Tianeptine combo is working quite well indeed. I've stopped taking the Nuvigil, the only thing left to address id a little bit more focus and daytime somnolence.

Getting noopept / sunifram / aniracetam in tomorrow, I'll try adding a little sunifram and keep the others for use at a later time if needed.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:45 AM

New Tianeptine supplier.

 

http://tht.co/tianeptime.html

NICE! I'll have to try these guys out. I've tried the Tianeptine from Newmind.com and also from Nootropicsdepot.com and it looks like this one is the cheapest so far. 

 

Have you tried this company yet?



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Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:13 PM

New Tianeptine supplier.
 
http://tht.co/tianeptime.html


Thanks for the new source, really cheap, and shipping seems reasonable.

Btw, my new pdoc says tianeptine is in his experience "all or nothing " ie 3x 12.5mg works, lower doesn't. I would tend to agree. He says there are no side effects (which I already knew). He advises 1x in the morning and 2x in the evening.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 08:41 PM

I've gotten effective use out of just taking 12mg of Tianeptine a day, I typically take 24mg though split into 2 12mg doses taken at lunch and breakfast.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 02:53 PM

Still no EU located source for tianeptine poweder???



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:47 PM

I've gotten effective use out of just taking 12mg of Tianeptine a day, I typically take 24mg though split into 2 12mg doses taken at lunch and breakfast.

 

I would be very surprised if someone got efficacy out of 12 mg of tianeptine. I also find it not surprising at all that you typically use 24 instead. Its not a very potent compound, its roughly twice as potent as the related antidepressant Amineptine. This means that if you take 24 mg, its like you are taking half of a 100 mg amineptine tablet.

 

Im glad you are getting results out of the extra low dose of 24 mg, its good to use the least amount of something as possible for one to treat one's condition. I like to use the least amount as possible as alternative treatment.

 

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There is a really warped & inaccurate view of everything within all these things: psychiatry/doctors ; medical boards/FDA ; patents/forums/social networks discussing supplements & drugs ; including people without diseases but looking for nootropic performance enhancement of life. I find it very unnerving.

 

Namely people say that very small and almost inactive amounts of something is a regular dose. And they also say stupid stuff they are programmed with. Like a person will read that Resveratrol resembles estrogenic compounds. Then they will go post they feel female and cry when they take Resveratrol, when its really a placebo effect programmed into them. Or like theyll say things that dont work, do work, like saying ginseng gives energy & endurence or valerian helps anxiety.

 

The fakeness of everything is astounding, absolutely astounding. People cant even know what their own subjective consciousness is and how to accurately report about supplements & medicines. If everyone was real instead of fake, you'd see only a small handful of treatments that people are interested in and everyone would say everything else is crap that doesn't work. And they wouldnt do things like read about Resveratrol being estrogenic then make dissociative personality disorder placebo-tard posts that they feel emotional like a female on resveratrol.

 

Forums & Psychiatry is just so clownish and fake. Its completely obvious that only things like tianeptine, caffeine, ritalin, opioids, etc work any amount, and that nootropics like racetams are complete bunk that induce mild dysphoria if anything. And even at that, people say low doses are high and say they are more effective than they really are. My rants are true not opinions that I make-up. They are the truth. People believe in Abstracts and feel good about them and stuff, even though 95% of abstracts are wrong & they all contradict each other and dont give IC50 values. Its just so bizarre. That's why i cant come here and to other forums.

 

ANYWAY: I believe all the sources for tianeptine are good. nyles is good. the others are good.I would recommend people Use a mg scale or mg scoop with tianeptine and dissolve it in water. Do not bother with empty gel caps. Tianeptine is a fatty acid salt, like soap is. It is very soapy and you are better off having it dissolved in warm distilled water, using an empty container from a previous order. Anyone who sends this stuff in bags instead of containers plus charges an extra-high over-price plus gives no scoop is just a bad person doing bad business. But you know how it is, usually the worst of something is the most popular. People love bad.


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Posted 09 May 2014 - 04:16 AM

I believe there are a lot of people saying strange things, possibly some just making it up. But I believe a lot of the people here are simply desperate for solutions to their particular mental issues.

I believe that, for now at least, I've found a really good product in Tianeptine which will make my life better. However,mI've taken some of the racetams (colu, sunifram, noopept), and there is just no way, no chance the effects were placebo. The visual, olfactory and auditory changes (though they don't seem to stick) are things that as a 53 year old, I hadn't realized how much I'd lost due to age!!

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:31 PM

Well I really don't have a bad depression problem, I do have other issues but that's not something I'm quick to express or talk about. The minimum dose of 12mg is alright, it isn't something I do unless it seems like I might not need to take as much during the day, and this often changes later on if I decide to take an additional capsule. I haven't starting going too high on taking the Tianeptine yet as it's something new that I've added to everything I take. For now at low doses it's got a nice enough benefit, but at some of the higher doses I've experimented with I've had some strong benefits. Nothing outrageous but definitely noticeable at least to me.

 

And it all could very well be placebo, but even so that wouldn't be so bad if the benefits gained are felt and thought to be real. Maybe it isn't the nootropics and it's the pescatarian diet, or the renewed health and activity that is really causing all of these benefits. But I don't think so, every thing was done so staggered, and when ever I add a new nootropic or supplement I take it in isolation of everything else after a 4 day period of taking nothing. I'm skeptical of a lot of things, especially if they have a price tag. Not only that, I think of a placebo as almost a delusion of improvement/degradation which would explain the actual improvements I've noticed in myself over the past years through this.



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 07:47 PM

Two scoops were included which is nice.
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Are these scoops for doses of 10-15mg?

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:12 PM

I can't recall sorry. I think it was for 10mg. 

 

On the last pic it says 8-12 mg.


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Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:22 PM

Well, it seems I'm taking something that is either working against the Tianeptine, or the tianeptine is pooping out. I'll try a higher dose when I get more; but I'm thinking the recent addition of CDP-Choline is an issue. I believe it's making me depressed, so I will stop taking it tomorrow.

 

I did try sunifram, but it was like poison. Make me feel extremely aggressive. I probably need a scale, so I can get an accurate dosage. I've also been using noopept + coluracetam in the evening, and that lifts my mood. I don't use the noopept in the daytime because it has a negative effect on my memory. Perhaps after using it longer, things will be better.

 

Keep on trying!



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 05:42 PM

Well, I just ordered 3 grams from nyles7, as well as dropper bottles, propolyene glycol, a milligram scale, funnel et al in order to create my own tianeptine solution (similar to a major reseller of nootropics).

 

Yeah, it'll tasted horrible, but it beats putting 12.5mg in capsules, and weighing out 3/4 gram one time every 20 days has got to be easier than capsules...

 

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 09:34 PM

Interesting. I had attempted to do this but without pg. What volumes will you use?

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 09:56 PM

I bought the one ounce dropper bottles from Amazon, so, like a vendor I've puchased Tianeptine solution from:

60 half droppers at 12.5mg = 750mg Tianeptine, then add pg until full. Shake like hell, I guess!

I'll tediously put 60 half droppers in to see where my fill line will be.

I'm going to do the same with coluracetam, but that will be sublingual and will require vegetable glycerin and pg.

Not sure what proportion of pg and glycerin to use for that, however.

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