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[fntms]

yes, Nyles7 offers a good product.

[Max Headroom Incident]

Great, thanks! Gotta be careful when ordering mysterious white powders from eBay

[coryvp]

Nyles on ebay doesn't mess around. That was the fastest shipping response I've ever seen...he had it packed and shipped within 2 hours of my order on Tuesday, and I received it today.

Edited by coryvp, 20 December 2013 - 11:57 PM.

[Sanguine_Rogue]

It seems that nutritionjjm has added Tianeptine to their ebay store list, and are shipping that out from ebay aswell as their website now.

[Max Headroom Incident]

Yep, Nyles7 is definitely legit. Haven't tested the product yet but he added extra weight "just because". Will be back for more!

[Sanguine_Rogue]

Added extra weight? In the shipping info? Or to the capsules?

[fntms]

It's powder shipped in a small plastic bag. He says he adds a little to your order to compensate for the powder sticking to the bag (as it's very hydrophilic).
You need to get some 10-15mg scoops to use it (not easy to cap) and an accurate mg scale preferrably.

[Colour]

What is everyone's average dose?

[Max Headroom Incident]

Yeah, it was powder shipped in a bag. Extra weight was included in case some stuck to the bag.

[fntms]

recommended dose for depression is 3x 12.5mg initially ; a maintenance dose might be 2x.
most if not all research has been done with 3x I believe.

[Max Headroom Incident]

Just tried 13 mg for my first time and it was great! I'm sure body weight and other factors come into play, but the "standard" dose is 12.5 mg three times daily.

[Noble Rex]

I have ordered from more than 3 sources of tianeptine suppliers.

I have to say The Nootropic Store through Ebay with their elephant logo (I believe elephants have good 'memory'), trumps the rest with great packaging, product quality and super fast shipping. Even international for my friends.

Inside I always find a pouch with the contents: A scoop, product information and the product in an easy-to-use bag, all inside a sealed mylar bag.

Plus there's always extra added.

There's no comparison

Edited by Noble Rex, 09 January 2014 - 03:21 AM.

[Sanguine_Rogue]

I've been looking at Smart Drugs for Thought's Tianeptine, and am wondering if anyone here has tried it? Would like to know about it before I order, I'm familiar with the company but not so much with Tianeptine in itself past what I've managed to read about it online.

[Saffron]

should be waxy when it comes in contact with water. is a very bitter compound. acids react with baking soda to form the sodium salt (in the presence of water and if its soluable enough) .. like when you mix vitamin C with bakingsoda it makes fizzy sodium ascorbate drink thats no longer sour , some react faster than others.

when Tianeptine Sodium is exposed to high humidity, like a summer day with the AC off, it becomes like soft wax, playdoh like, that you could actually roll into little balls. thats one unique property of it because of that long chain on it,

by the way, separate topic, in my opinion nootropics are rather weak but tianeptine is not weak, it has an effect on performance that the person can feel & utilize.

Edited by tone303, 08 February 2014 - 04:54 AM.

[Reformed-Redan]

Tianeptine adds color to my life, lol.

[Saffron]

Tianeptine adds color to my life, lol.

thats good, it should; it actually holds the record for least toxic prescription drug (Stablon) ever marketed.

any updates on how NewMind is doing?

[Saffron]

ever hear of the guy that got up to 240 tablets per day and a woman who reached 150 tablets per day? crazy , its in the literature . caused them some moderate problems going off it that then subsided. with no other damage or problem.

http://www.biopsychi...tine-addict.htm

[Saffron]

Note that Tianeptine is not a drug of abuse, those are rare idiosyncratic cases i mentioned above. every drug and supplement has a couple people who OD on it, even ones that arent abuse common. I was just merely mentioning those 2 OD cases as a reference to its high safty profile. Theres very few cases of this compared to other prescriptions / nootropics / supplements.

Edited by tone303, 10 February 2014 - 06:15 AM.

[PositiveAtom]

Let me know your thoughts on this!

It should not be a drug of abuse... That being said if you reach a point where you are taking 200mg without much noticeable effect you know it's gone wack-o haha.
Effects I found: Anxiety-reduction, feeling awake (nootropic) and feeling good. Sleepy after a dose.

I was sent this by Mr. Random Guy:
-Basically, 2-3x a day of higher doses to where you are Really Feeling It lessens your mood after its over.
-I believe it's best used at times when anxiety or depression or tired-feeling are most uncomfortable.

I actually very rarely use the tianeptine because I was shocked at how fast tolerance grew to it, and I actually found very little medicinal effect at lower experience levels. At doses where the effect is clearly the primary SSRE effect, it actually quickly made me depressed after a couple of doses. At more recreational doses, I really enjoyed it, but I found that night 2 of running trials I would need double the dose! So... it has it's place for me. If I am feeling depressed and need a quick jolt, I will use tianeptine in it's low mg range in hopes that I find a better thought direction and can use it for bettering my day, but I won't dose 2-3x a day. Then sometimes when the mood I am feeling is a chillout and tianeptine fits the bill, I will occasionally use it in higher mg ranges, maybe once every two weeks. Definitely not a social thing for me though... more of a listen to talk radio and browse the internet kind of night. I did find once that it mixed great with kratom, but if it was pushed too high it could also make things too 'slushy'. Lol hard to describe the effect other than slushy.

Edited by PositiveAtom, 10 February 2014 - 08:37 AM.

[jonnyD]

Hi,

i am looking for a reliable EU source. Any ideas?

[Max Headroom Incident]

People looking to get high off tianeptine are wasting their time. It does have some very mild opiate-like effects, but nowhere in the same ballpark as codeine even. It's an antidepressant that works well for that purpose...at least for me.

I've ordered from two separate vendors and the powder was the same consistency both times: thick, white and clumpy. Very sticky and melts together after sitting around for a while. I feel for anyone dumb enough to try and shoot it into their veins. (Yes, people do that).

I wouldn't suggest messing around with doses higher than the recommended 12.5 mg three times per day unless you want to end up physically dependent. Let's all be smart about this so it doesn't get banned like everything else worthwhile, k?

That said, if anyone has an amineptine source, I'm allllll ears!

Edited by Max Headroom Incident, 15 February 2014 - 10:44 AM.

[Saffron]

Thats the point im trying to make, that these few idiosyncratic rare cases of someone using a lot should not be misunderstood that it can get a person high. These are some despirate people that priobably needed an MAOI for their depression & anxiety. What the two cases cited does do though, is show the safty profile of tianeptine, that overdose does absoluetely nothing harmful to a person. At best, the effects you get from Tianeptine is clearer thinking, nootropic-like performance & reduction of anxiety without sedation. It can also help those with trouble leaving their home to go out. It may aid slightly in socializing. Im guessing this is the safest drug ever marketed in terms of theraputic index. I cant think of anything safer, it has no affinity for any receptors or transporters! Ceiling effect, more and more wont do more, because theres no receptor affinity known and the effects on monoamines are indirect & limited. very novel & interesting. My guess is that its probably the best BDNF releaser, and the other antidepressant that are said to increase BDNF probably do so little.

But since this is a retail discussion of one particular vendor ill leave it at that with this followup reply to max

Edited by tone303, 15 February 2014 - 11:33 AM.

[Saffron]

Youre right about keeping the dosage low, i dont even know why i wanted to cite the two cases i did other then it was so fascinating how safe it is, which means its even safer in the regular dose. I also got the same thing from 2 different vendors. Tianeptine is waxy if exposed to any water.

Edited by tone303, 15 February 2014 - 11:50 AM.

[madamshome]

Hi Tone, have you bought from Nyles7 also, if so, do you endorse? Any other source recommendations?

I have been using the Serdia tabs which I'm very happy with but on a student budget so would like to improve on price without compromising quality.

Cheers

[Max Headroom Incident]

^ Nyles7 is amazing! Brandmedicines.com also sells Coaxil tablets for a slightly higher price.

I agree that tianeptine is FAR less toxic than many recreational drugs or even other antidepressants. I'd just hate to see it get banned because a few 'tards abused it. I'm starting to see it become more available and cheap, which usually leads to more widespread use...and eventual banning. I've seen it all too often with research chemicals, kratom, etc.

Luckily, the folks here seem intelligent and interested in legit medical use.

[madamshome]

Thanks, Max. I do like the convenience of capsules, (& happy not to take another bitter powder directly), plus hoping that Aussie customs may cope better with capsules than a bag of white powder, so am giving the Smart Drugs multi pack a go.
Will report if I notice any differences from the Serdia tabs.

[fntms]

Just to give some negative feedback on The Nootropic Store on ebay (good tianeptine prices and a positive review in this thread which led me to try them): no replies to mails, no shipping of an order made 10 days ago...poor service indeed! They are getting quite a bit of other negative ratings on ebay now...I will have to get a paypal refund, another hassle...Nyles7 is the way to go it seems...

[Sanguine_Rogue]

Been using Neuro Lift - Tianeptine from Smart Drugs for Thought for the past two weeks alongside their Sunifiram and I have to say the two together are pretty intense. Throw in some Piracetam and Oxiracetam and you have a potent stack and only have to take a small amount of capsules (compared to my usual nootropic stack).

[PositiveAtom]

Hi FNTMS, this is The Nootropic Store Sorry about your package not being sent in time, I fell ill.

One interesting substance to stock be D-Cycloserine for fear extinction (Social Anxiety, Anxiety, Fear). Seems like many who would benefit from tianeptine, would also benefit from the Cycloserine.

[Saffron]

Soon it will be illegal and gone like aminetpine, GHB & dozens of others

its controlled in france, controlled or banned in other countries.

Its only a matter of time before its gone

I told you, anything that works is de-marketed and banned, anything that doesn't work, remains marketed. Then people reply to be with "Derp Derp Evidence Derp Derp Blah Science Blah Blah Derp Pubmed Derp Derp "Not Everyone is the same" Derp Derp Blah" to avoid this key basic truth