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[Chook12]

Another thing, the chooks are very enthusiastic about the c60oo. The other day I walked in the chicken coop with it in my hand (while I was getting my camera ready in the other hand), and the small red chook jumped over a metre in the air trying to get a bit. Their food container had already been filled before this so it wasn't because of lack of food. I think they like some fatty things, eg, if I put some cheese in the chicken coop they go crazy after it, snatching it and chasing each other to try to get more.

[Lister]

Thus far they really don’t seem to be greatly affected by the C60. Specifically from Chook’s results at this point is it not safe to conclude that C60 is non-toxic in the short term? We should be able to make some conclusions here soon...

[Danail Bulgaria]

Chook12, Since You know the strains of Your chickens, the value of Your study rose significantly. However You will have to do a small research about the average lifespan or the life expectancy of these srains. Thus the result (the lifespan of the treated chickens) can be compared with the average lifespan of the chicken strains.

[YOLF]

Hi! I love this thread. Thank you for these posts and for the Google Docs link. I am very curious about the effect that C60 might have on reproduction and that is why I love the egg count. I am also very interested to see if the chicks born from these C60 mamas are born normally. Do you have any roosters and/or might you allow any of the eggs to hatch to discover if the chicks seem normal with a normal lifespan?

Best Regards and keep up the great work!

Hi QualityToast,

In my home town we are not allowed to keep roosters due to local council laws. Therefore I cannot do any experiments with hatching baby chicks. I don't think the c60oo has had any effect on egg laying. There have been changes in egg laying since the experiment started, but these are what would be normally expected with the seasons.

Is it possible to obtain rooster sperm? Maybe you could fertilize a few eggs from each hen? You could keep them alive for a while and eat them or give them away should the need arise. You would probably have to cull the roosters though, or give them away to a farm immediately to stay in line with local regs. Do you think it would be possible?

[Chook12]

Sorry everyone, very busy at work. Have fed the chickens on Saturdays and taken a quick pic, but keep postponing scaling my pics and posting. Pics of the last 4 feeds is as follows. Next feed tomorrow.


40th feed on Sat 16 Mar 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 0; Tue: 3; Wed: 2; Thu: 2; Fri: 2; Sat: 3; Avg: 1.9


41st feed on Sat 23 Mar 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 3; Mon: 1; Tue: 3; Wed: 1; Thu: 2; Fri: 2; Sat: 2; Avg: 2


42nd feed on Sat 30 Mar 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 2; Mon: 3; Tue: 2; Wed: 2; Thu: 1; Fri: 2; Sat: 1; Avg: 1.9


43rd feed on Sat 6 Apr 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 2; Mon: 1; Tue: 2; Wed: 2; Thu: 2; Fri: 2; Sat: 2; Avg: 1.9

[Chook12]

Chook12, Since You know the strains of Your chickens, the value of Your study rose significantly. However You will have to do a small research about the average lifespan or the life expectancy of these srains. Thus the result (the lifespan of the treated chickens) can be compared with the average lifespan of the chicken strains.

Have searched on the internet for the "lifespan of a chicken" and also the different breeds (rhode island red, white sussex, australorp and black leghorn), but there doesn't seem to be a definite answer. A lot of sites say 7 years, but many chook owners report birds living 10+ years or even 15 years.

[Danail Bulgaria]

Do You have an access to a veterinary literature for these brands? There should be an information about their lifespan.

You need to find a reliable information (e.g. information from an accepted veterinary books) about the average lifespan and the maximal lifespan of these exact breeds, that You use.

[Chook12]

Is it possible to obtain rooster sperm? Maybe you could fertilize a few eggs from each hen? You could keep them alive for a while and eat them or give them away should the need arise. You would probably have to cull the roosters though, or give them away to a farm immediately to stay in line with local regs. Do you think it would be possible?

It could be possible to have a rooster visit for a few days to get fertile eggs. Then would need an incubator, since these laying breeds don't tend to be broody (i.e. they don't tend to sit in the nest box and try to incubate eggs). Well actually the small white Sussex has gone broody twice since I've got her, but I wouldn't be able to rely on it.

I am thinking of another experiment, to get quail and feed them c60oo. Quail are small and quiet and you can keep males and females. Eggs can be counted and eaten. Occasionally some eggs could be allowed to incubate.

[YOLF]

Hmmm... I'm liking the sound of quail, then you can give the C60 to the mail as well and we can get an idea of it's effect on male fertility for those of us who haven't had kids.

[Chook12]

44th feed on Sat 13 Apr 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 2; Mon: 1; Tue: 2; Wed: 2; Thu: 2; Fri: 2; Sat: 1; Avg: 1.7

[Chook12]

45th feed on Sat 20 Apr 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 2; Tue: 2; Wed: 1; Thu: 1; Fri: 2; Sat: 1; Avg: 1.4

Saw this python on top of the chicken coop later that night. I have seen the snake two other times after this.

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[Chook12]

Sorry very busy coming up to the end of semester and also some personal issues going on.

46th feed on Sat 27 Apr 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 1; Tue: 1; Wed: 1; Thu: 1; Fri: 1; Sat: 1; Avg: 1


47th feed on Sat 4 May 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 1; Tue: 0; Wed: 1; Thu: 1; Fri: 1; Sat: 1; Avg: 0.9

Feed not done on Sat 11 May 2013 due to travel


48th feed on Sat 18 May 2013:

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Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 0; Tue: 1; Wed: 1; Thu: 1; Fri: 1; Sat: 0; Avg: 0.7

Just about all the chooks have moulted in the last few months, and only one is laying at the moment. It is normal for egg count to be down at this time of year (nearly getting into Winter now).

The chicken coop is in a bit of a scruffy state at the moment with feathers everywhere since I haven't tidied it up for a while. Chooks are doing fine otherwise.

[sthira]

Sorry very busy coming up to the end of semester and also some personal issues going on.

46th feed on Sat 27 Apr 2013:

IMGP2682.JPG

Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 1; Tue: 1; Wed: 1; Thu: 1; Fri: 1; Sat: 1; Avg: 1


47th feed on Sat 4 May 2013:

IMGP2685.JPG

Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 1; Tue: 0; Wed: 1; Thu: 1; Fri: 1; Sat: 1; Avg: 0.9

Feed not done on Sat 11 May 2013 due to travel


48th feed on Sat 18 May 2013:

IMGP2689.JPG

Egg counts:
Sun: 1; Mon: 0; Tue: 1; Wed: 1; Thu: 1; Fri: 1; Sat: 0; Avg: 0.7

Just about all the chooks have moulted in the last few months, and only one is laying at the moment. It is normal for egg count to be down at this time of year (nearly getting into Winter now).

The chicken coop is in a bit of a scruffy state at the moment with feathers everywhere since I haven't tidied it up for a while. Chooks are doing fine otherwise.

Whatever happened with your C60 olive oil chickens? Did any of them live longer, healthier lives?

[Chook12]

I stopped feeding the chickens in May 2013, after I found out I was pregnant.  I was tired and busy with other things. 

 

5 of the chickens are still alive.  One died during a heatwave in Jan 2014.  

 

My little boy just turned 2.  I've just started taking c60oo myself again, 2.5ml/day of homebrew.   Have been taking it for a week, and not sure if it is a placebo effect or coincidence, but feel more energetic.

 

Also just looked at this forum for the first time in ages.

[Logic]

Welcome back Chook12   and congrats.

2 yrs without food!  C60oo is the shiz!  

Seriously:

So are the chickens living longer than normal?

It would seem that you are the 1st person I know of to have had a child after taking C60oo.
I trust that he is a healthy happy little fellow?
Were you taking it when you became pregnant and then stop?

 

 

[sthira]

I stopped feeding the chickens in May 2013, after I found out I was pregnant. I was tired and busy with other things.

5 of the chickens are still alive. One died during a heatwave in Jan 2014.

My little boy just turned 2. I've just started taking c60oo myself again, 2.5ml/day of homebrew. Have been taking it for a week, and not sure if it is a placebo effect or coincidence, but feel more energetic.

Also just looked at this forum for the first time in ages.

Yes, welcome back and congratulations! Are the five chickens that are still alive part of the c60 group?

[Chook12]

The 5 chickens still alive all were fed c60oo.  I haven't got any new chickens since.  Two of them are 8 years old and the others are 5 years old.   I've heard 8 years old is a normal lifespan, but I've also heard of them living for 20 years.

 

I did post in the c60 and pregnancy thread, which is way down on page 4 or so now.  I was taking a tablespoon or so per week of c60oo, from around June 2012 to Mar 2013.  Mostly the stuff from owndoc and carbon, and I made some homebrew that I fed to the chickens.   I had also been eating the chicken eggs, so could have got some c60 second hand that way.  I stopped in Mar 2013 since I was getting ready to take meds for an IVF cycle.  At the time of the cycle I was 41 years old and I only got one egg.   It was this one egg that turned out to be my son.   My positive blood test was on May 2, 2013.   I of course did not take c60oo again during pregnancy or breastfeeding.  

 

I think the c60oo could have improved the for mitochondria in all my cells, including the developing egg cell.   Either that or it was just random luck.  I had tried cycles previously, aged 39, and all my embryos stalled at a few cells.

 

My son is in good health and walking around everywhere.  I think he is quite smart since he's been recognising numbers and counting since 15 months.

[Logic]

Well!    It seems that possibly C60oo may just have helped you to a child!?
Thats one for the record books! 
Congrats again!

 

Oh and do you intend to put the chickens back on C60oo?

Edited by Logic, 04 February 2016 - 09:35 PM.

[Chook12]

Logic - I think the c60oo could have helped with egg quality.   Mitochondria are very important for the first cell divisions, and my previous attempts did not grow past a few cells.   I don't think it helped with egg quantity.  

 

For now no plans to put the chickens back on it.  I'm pretty busy now and have a lot to do at work, as well as looking after the little guy.

[YOLF]

Could you move to biweekly dosing? Just soak a loaf of bread or kibble, refrigerate, withhold food the day before, then give it to them as their breakfast?

[ambivalent]

Logic - I think the c60oo could have helped with egg quality.   Mitochondria are very important for the first cell divisions, and my previous attempts did not grow past a few cells.   I don't think it helped with egg quantity.  

 

For now no plans to put the chickens back on it.  I'm pretty busy now and have a lot to do at work, as well as looking after the little guy.

 

 

There are far better people to advise or update you than me on this forum, but given mentioned you havent followed the forum for some time I would steer you towards two important threads.

 

http://www.longecity...t-model-of-aml/

 

KMoodys study showed a very positive effect of c60oo on mice with AML when he made a batch of c60oo in house, but when he bought it off the shelf from SES the batch proved to be very harmful to the mice.

 

Subsequently Kelsey sampled c60oo from longecity members and tested the concentration levels of vendors. Both SES and VW samples fell well below the levels they claimed. Only Carbon60Olive.com came in and the level the level advertised

 

http://www.longecity...-major-vendors/

 

Thank you very much for your update and I'm glad your is doing great.

[Chook12]

One of the 5 year old chickens, the black Leghorn, died yesterday.  Not sure what happened.

[Graviton]

One of the 5 year old chickens, the black Leghorn, died yesterday.  Not sure what happened.

That is sad. Does your chicken normally live 7 years? Then, it would be worthy to do an autopsy for that chicken.

[samstersam]

Any more chickens die since your last update?