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[Andey]

Cheers, I do smoke an electronic cigarette as well. I cut down to 20 real cigs per day from a crazy amount but I just cant kick the real cigs right now, I think it is the MAOI effects, I need this or whatever else cigarettes give me. The other night I was working late falling asleep puffing on my ecig, I had a real cig and bang I was woken up and concentrating again.
I have been on wellbutrin in the past but still smoked. I had a period last year where I smoked e-cigs only for 3 months and was fine, I think that if my life is going ok then I wont need the regular cigs.

You say like you are observer of your own life ) It is your and only your decision to smoke or not, nobody make it happen to you )

A lot of people have trouble with stress in their life but not all of them go for smoking, at the and you can found that smoking is stress of its own, and removing it you can greatly improve your life and your mental abilities.

I understand that its easy to say if you are not addict but it is obvious that you cant say that circumstances did something to you - it is only your decision at the and you need to understand it )

[Junk Master]

No great mystery here. Cigarettes are ADDICTIVE. The addiction isn't just to the drug nicotine but to the ritual of smoking, oral fixation, taste, a myriad of other subconscious cues. It's not easy to break addictions, obviously millions, upon millions never do and die.

Back to c60/oo....

[smithx]

You're saying high nitrate fertilizers cause the tobacco leaves to develop hairs?

I really don't think so. I was involved in a genetic engineering project years ago trying to get rid of the hairs by introducing various wild tobacco genes. The hairs are a function of the tobacco variety.

[Anthony_Loera]

Since no one is talking about C60 anymore on this thread, can a moderator pull the non C60 banter into its own thread?

Here's my C60 pic for today...
Sweet rice water with a tablespoon of C60oo

Yumm

A

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[clairvoyant]

I hereby, honestly, put my testimonials on C60.

Personal data: 44 year old male, Caucasian, athletic body with definition on the muscles, 170 cm/71kg. Very fast metabolism.
Good black hair, which starts to grey a little bit on head, mustache, and beard.
I have been taking multivitamins since 20 years of age, do not smoke and drink and look probably 10 years younger.

On 07 Nov 2012 at 6 PM, I took my first dose of C60, which was only 0.1 MICRO grams.
That day I had drunk one Arabica coffee in the morning and second hand cup with cocoa powder in the afternoon as usual. I knew that C60 should not be mixed with caffeine that is why I decided to take very small dose. At the time of taking it, I was quite tired out of work. After an hour, I started urinating frequently. Nevertheless, had diner and went to bed.
At 2 o’clock AM, I woke up suddenly with burst of hyperactive energy, as if I had drunk many coffees. Skin hot, I was walking around my room and making push-ups. I printed information of C60, just in case I would faint, so as the emergency had some clue. I thought I would die. In the morning, after breakfast, I realized that the doctors did not have experience with C60 and could give me activated charcoal, which would worsen the situation. Therefore, instead of going to the hospital I went to the gym to release that energy.
After the exercise, symptoms subsided a little bit but that caffeine-like pressure held me one day and a half.
Now I am considering smaller doses in the range of NANO grams. My C60 is SESRES’, made at home with magnetic stirrer (125mg in 1 L).

Aftermath consequences (10 days after):

• Stamina and strength increase.
• Hard skin on my wrist becomes softer and younger upon Turnbuckle’s test. I felt some itching on the wrist’s skin and the head circle, where men are bald there, 10 days ago while preparing the nectar. I had some colorful dreams when touching the nectar with bare hands.
• Going to the toilet to defecate twice a day, instead of ones.
• My stomach processing food faster.
• My feces become lighter (this might have something to do with bilirubin but I am not a doctor. Urine’s color did not change.
• Softer, younger skin on my face. An old friend did not recognize me. Especially the harder skin under the eyes and on my cheekbones.
• My nerve reflexes improved dramatically. When I shoot at the range with a pistol, I can merge two quick shots almost as one, just like a cowboy.
• Gums feel better.
• Better sleep except that awful night.
• Hair feels stronger but I am not sure

Feel free to comment.
I wonder why such a small dose affected me so much. Do you think that some guys here, pretending to take higher doses, incite the others to become guinea pigs?


Live longer and prosper.
Clairvoyant

[Turnbuckle]

I hereby, honestly, put my testimonials on C60.

Personal data: 44 year old male, Caucasian, athletic body with definition on the muscles, 170 cm/71kg. Very fast metabolism.
Good black hair, which starts to grey a little bit on head, mustache, and beard.
I have been taking multivitamins since 20 years of age, do not smoke and drink and look probably 10 years younger.

On 07 Nov 2012 at 6 PM, I took my first dose of C60, which was only 0.1 MICRO grams.
That day I had drunk one Arabica coffee in the morning and second hand cup with cocoa powder in the afternoon as usual. I knew that C60 should not be mixed with caffeine that is why I decided to take very small dose. At the time of taking it, I was quite tired out of work. After an hour, I started urinating frequently. Nevertheless, had diner and went to bed.
At 2 o’clock AM, I woke up suddenly with burst of hyperactive energy, as if I had drunk many coffees. Skin hot, I was walking around my room and making push-ups. I printed information of C60, just in case I would faint, so as the emergency had some clue. I thought I would die. In the morning, after breakfast, I realized that the doctors did not have experience with C60 and could give me activated charcoal, which would worsen the situation. Therefore, instead of going to the hospital I went to the gym to release that energy.
After the exercise, symptoms subsided a little bit but that caffeine-like pressure held me one day and a half.
Now I am considering smaller doses in the range of NANO grams. My C60 is SESRES’, made at home with magnetic stirrer (125mg in 1 L).

Aftermath consequences (10 days after):

• Stamina and strength increase.
  
• Hard skin on my wrist becomes softer and younger upon Turnbuckle’s test. I felt some itching on the wrist’s skin and the head circle, where men are bald there, 10 days ago while preparing the nectar. I had some colorful dreams when touching the nectar with bare hands.
  
• Going to the toilet to defecate twice a day, instead of ones.
  
• My stomach processing food faster.
  
• My feces become lighter (this might have something to do with bilirubin but I am not a doctor. Urine’s color did not change.
  
• Softer, younger skin on my face. An old friend did not recognize me. Especially the harder skin under the eyes and on my cheekbones.
  
• My nerve reflexes improved dramatically. When I shoot at the range with a pistol, I can merge two quick shots almost as one, just like a cowboy.
  
• Gums feel better.
  
• Better sleep except that awful night.
  
• Hair feels stronger but I am not sure

Feel free to comment.
I wonder why such a small dose affected me so much. Do you think that some guys here, pretending to take higher doses, incite the others to become guinea pigs?


Live longer and prosper.
Clairvoyant

This sounds like the amazing homeopathic effects that some here claim for microscopic doses of MB. And you didn't take any more except for this first dose?

As for not mixing C60 with caffeine, where does that come from? (Edit: probably from me! But the problem isn't the caffeine, just that the C60 seemed to potentiate the effects a bit and I was drinking a dozen cups a day. I still drink that much but now I cut it with decaffeinated.)

Edited by Turnbuckle, 19 November 2012 - 02:31 AM.

[niner]

0.1 micrograms is a really small dose, at least relative to what everyone here is using. People reporting results here have use doses ranging from 500 micrograms to 140 milligrams, so you are at 1/5000 the smallest amount reported here. Andrievsky recommends super low doses for his hydrated fullerene... I don't know what his basis is for that, but he's worked with it for a long time. There have been a couple reports of caffeine potentiation from c60-oo, though I've certainly not noticed it. The awful night that you experienced sounds like an anxiety reaction, but who knows... Are you still taking c60?

[trance]

And of what purity (or item number) of C60 -- or was it one of their other products perhaps -- did you order from SES?

I've noticed differences in faster waste processing as well, but not any additional effect while also continuing to use caffeine (coffee).

Edited by trance, 19 November 2012 - 02:32 AM.

[YodaTW]

If anyone is interested, there is quite a detailed review of C60oo effects on longevity here: http://www.anti-agin...012/11/12/1424/ .

I had a look at that page and it said something of concerns that C60 released into the environment may cause damage, so I searched for that and seen this http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/15238277 talking about brain damaged bass, sounds cool but does this apply to humans taking C60? If this stuff really does extend the life of some organisms, even just rats.. then wow we might be at the start of a whole new form of pollution, nano polluting the world

What seems also amazing is the fact and I quote from the ncbi site above: "

nC60 increased water clarity, possibly due to bactericidal activity." Which should also work similarly in the blood stream. Very cool.

[niner]

If anyone is interested, there is quite a detailed review of C60oo effects on longevity here: http://www.anti-agin...012/11/12/1424/ .

I had a look at that page and it said something of concerns that C60 released into the environment may cause damage, so I searched for that and seen this http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/15238277 talking about brain damaged bass, sounds cool but does this apply to humans taking C60? If this stuff really does extend the life of some organisms, even just rats.. then wow we might be at the start of a whole new form of pollution, nano polluting the world

What seems also amazing is the fact and I quote from the ncbi site above: "

nC60 increased water clarity, possibly due to bactericidal activity." Which should also work similarly in the blood stream. Very cool.

Very unlikely to be bactericidal in blood. nC60 is an aggregate of pristine c60 that's dispersed in water, and may be partially hydroxylated. If it's bactericidal, it might be photoactivated. We are using a solution phase fatty acid adduct of c60, so it's a different compound, with a different response to light.

The post above talking about the brain damaged bass is probably from older work that was later found to be an artifact of the use of THF in the production of the c60 mixtures, and not from the c60 itself.

[mikey]

I was given the "Activist of the Year" award by the second largest lobbying group in the USA for my work in helping pass a federal law that protected consumers from FDA trying to make dietary supplements into prescription items in 1994 - The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA), so I know FDA well, as we beat them at their own game.

This is no longer 1994. It's no longer if, but when the FDA takes over. There is definitely going to be more government regulation in the years to come. In case you weren't aware, regulation no longer requires a vote of congress...but simple Presidential decree....hold on tight...

http://cnsnews.com/n...-average-68-day

The authors did not discuss an upper limit, therefore, as usual, more is better,

And that is twisted logic. More is seldom better....everything is either a bell or inverse U curve where any amount beyond the "sweet spot" is not "diminishing returns" but headed back in the direction of as bad or worse than deficiency. Dosage studies of everything ever tested have shown a curve relationship....it just doesn't keep going up linearly to infinity. And nothing is non-toxic or side effect free...it's always relative to dose. The poison is always in the dose...of everything. And "More is better" is not only bad advice but dangerous advice.

Well, FDA tried to do this in 1971 and 1994 and will try again, but we've beaten then each time and it gets easier each time, so I don't worry about them.

More is Better
Not knowing what optimal doses are can cause the a lack of understanding of nutritional biochem related to finding optimal doses for life-extension purposes. More is better much more than less is better. More is best up to a point of diminishing returns where with some nutrients more causes problems. That notion plays out dozens of times looking at all the essential nutrients.

More is better is the best advice for most people who are too timid to consider optimal dosage ranges, which tend to be in the higher dose ranges. As to it being dangerous advice, the groups that say that tend to be those who out of hand dismiss the studies that show the optimal dosage ranges -- conservative groups who dismiss that nutrients can have life-extension effects.

[mikey]

Are you trying to be argumentative, taking my words out of context? I said "more is better up to a point of diminishing returns."

Never took your words out of context. And I'm not the one being argumentative.

You did take my words out of context. I said "more is better up to a point of diminishing returns."

I feel like I'm reading the words of a Tea Party teenager who is trying to fight with someone.
Mellow out and join the community.

You are way out of line.

Obviously you are the one posting inflamatory and incorrect remarks that you know nothing about....just like in the Vitamin D thread...where you were also wrong.

And for the record...not that it's any of your business...but since you so rudely made it your business...I voted Obama...both times.

Karma to you.

You did take my words out of context. I said "more is better up to a point of diminishing returns. Not "more is better."

I post statements with references, to they are just my statements. As to vitamin D, you exhibit a lack of true understanding of how nutrients are best used for life-extension purposes - high doses work better, based on dozens of studies.

And whether you voted for Obama now, like probably a majority of people here did, that doesn't change the fact that you're acting like a tea partier, trying to stir up negative attention by twisting other's words

Find some peace and join the idealists here.

[clairvoyant]

To all

My C60 is 99,5% from SESRES in plastic vials. I also received wad of leaflets for notes.
On its back, it reads BIC

6]Made in the USA

When preparing it, I touched it both the oil solution and powder itself. Interestingly, I smashed and drew two granules on a white sheet of paper with my finger. It has black-purplish color and stained my skin like tattoo lines. After a couple of weeks, they are gone. Since that time I felt increased stamina, strength and reaction time decrease as well as skin improvement. Then I suspected that your doses would be too big for me.
I took C60 orally only once.
Now, I will divide the dose by 1000, using a drop in a glass (C60oo) twice. I will double the dose until it is not tolerable to me.
Do you think that there are any racial or genetic differences between us?

[Hebbeh]

More is Better
Not knowing what optimal doses are can cause the a lack of understanding of nutritional biochem related to finding optimal doses for life-extension purposes. More is better much more than less is better. More is best up to a point of diminishing returns where with some nutrients more causes problems. That notion plays out dozens of times looking at all the essential nutrients.

More is better is the best advice for most people who are too timid to consider optimal dosage ranges, which tend to be in the higher dose ranges. As to it being dangerous advice, the groups that say that tend to be those who out of hand dismiss the studies that show the optimal dosage ranges -- conservative groups who dismiss that nutrients can have life-extension effects.

It certainly doesn't appear I've taken any words out of context.

And I'm not surprised you pitch more is better since you have a biased conflict of interest in selling the supplements you recommend mega dosing with.

What I don't understand is why you've been allowed to spam various threads with the link to your web site where you are obviously selling supplements and services.

And what has been taken out of context are the cherry picked studies that you attempt to twist into "more is better".

[Turnbuckle]

To all

My C60 is 99,5% from SESRES in plastic vials. I also received wad of leaflets for notes.
On its back, it reads BIC

6]Made in the USA

When preparing it, I touched it both the oil solution and powder itself. Interestingly, I smashed and drew two granules on a white sheet of paper with my finger. It has black-purplish color and stained my skin like tattoo lines. After a couple of weeks, they are gone. Since that time I felt increased stamina, strength and reaction time decrease as well as skin improvement. Then I suspected that your doses would be too big for me.
I took C60 orally only once.
Now, I will divide the dose by 1000, using a drop in a glass (C60oo) twice. I will double the dose until it is not tolerable to me.
Do you think that there are any racial or genetic differences between us?

For the oral dose, what was the C60 concentration in the oil, and how many drops (or ml) did you take?

[Adamzski]

I was inspired so after a few weeks of no C60 I just took about this much

I kept a few drops to use on my skin

I have experienced something similar to Clairvoyant, I described it here http://www.longecity...0-log-adamzski/
Basically I felt like I was going to die, it was something that did scare me. I have taken recreational drugs in the past in single high doses like Ecstasy and Amphetamines experiencing very strong heart-beat but have never thought to seek medical help.

[clairvoyant]

To all

My C60 is 99,5% from SESRES in plastic vials. I also received wad of leaflets for notes.
On its back, it reads BIC

6]Made in the USA

When preparing it, I touched it both the oil solution and powder itself. Interestingly, I smashed and drew two granules on a white sheet of paper with my finger. It has black-purplish color and stained my skin like tattoo lines. After a couple of weeks, they are gone. Since that time I felt increased stamina, strength and reaction time decrease as well as skin improvement. Then I suspected that your doses would be too big for me.
I took C60 orally only once.
Now, I will divide the dose by 1000, using a drop in a glass (C60oo) twice. I will double the dose until it is not tolerable to me.
Do you think that there are any racial or genetic differences between us?

For the oral dose, what was the C60 concentration in the oil, and how many drops (or ml) did you take?

First I divided 1 gram C60 to 8 equal parts with jewelery scale. This is 125mg each. Then I stirred this 125mg dose in 1 liter olive oil for 10 days. Afterwards, with a syringe, I drew just 1 ml of that potion and put in 100 ml NEW olive oil. Out of this terminal potion, I took only 1 DROP.

[Hebbeh]

First I divided 1 gram C60 to 8 equal parts with jewelery scale. This is 125mg each. Then I stirred this 125mg dose in 1 liter olive oil for 10 days. Afterwards, with a syringe, I drew just 1 ml of that potion and put in 100 ml NEW olive oil. Out of this terminal potion, I took only 1 DROP.

Out of curiosity, why did you decide to start with such a miniscule dose?

[Turnbuckle]

First I divided 1 gram C60 to 8 equal parts with jewelery scale. This is 125mg each. Then I stirred this 125mg dose in 1 liter olive oil for 10 days. Afterwards, with a syringe, I drew just 1 ml of that potion and put in 100 ml NEW olive oil. Out of this terminal potion, I took only 1 DROP.

So if you took a drop every week you'd have enough prepared to last 38,000 years!

[clairvoyant]

First I divided 1 gram C60 to 8 equal parts with jewelery scale. This is 125mg each. Then I stirred this 125mg dose in 1 liter olive oil for 10 days. Afterwards, with a syringe, I drew just 1 ml of that potion and put in 100 ml NEW olive oil. Out of this terminal potion, I took only 1 DROP.

Out of curiosity, why did you decide to start with such a miniscule dose?

Because I felt the power of the nectar while touching it with bare hands. Nevertheless I overdosed it and intoxicated myself, fortunately without consequences. As you can see I have special intuition that might have saved my life.

[clairvoyant]

First I divided 1 gram C60 to 8 equal parts with jewelery scale. This is 125mg each. Then I stirred this 125mg dose in 1 liter olive oil for 10 days. Afterwards, with a syringe, I drew just 1 ml of that potion and put in 100 ml NEW olive oil. Out of this terminal potion, I took only 1 DROP.

So if you took a drop every week you'd have enough prepared to last 38,000 years!

I thought so but the oil will get rancid within 10 years.

[Anthony_Loera]

Because I felt the power of the nectar while touching it with bare hands. Nevertheless I overdosed it and intoxicated myself, fortunately without consequences. As you can see I have special intuition that might have saved my life.

You should try a tablespoon of C60... with Three Olives!

Talk about the power of the nectar...

Ok, uhmm...scratch that.... that's probably just the alcohol talking now...

:D

Wow, seriously guys... This is one of the better drinks, as you can't taste the Oo...

A

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[niner]

This is one of the better drinks, as you can't taste the Oo...

There's an easy fix for this problem- Just start with olive oil that tastes good. For most people, that's going to mean an oil that isn't super high polyphenol. Finding an oil that's both high polyphenol and also tastes good can be a challenge.

[mikey]

More is Better
Not knowing what optimal doses are can cause the a lack of understanding of nutritional biochem related to finding optimal doses for life-extension purposes. More is better much more than less is better. More is best up to a point of diminishing returns where with some nutrients more causes problems. That notion plays out dozens of times looking at all the essential nutrients.

More is better is the best advice for most people who are too timid to consider optimal dosage ranges, which tend to be in the higher dose ranges. As to it being dangerous advice, the groups that say that tend to be those who out of hand dismiss the studies that show the optimal dosage ranges -- conservative groups who dismiss that nutrients can have life-extension effects.

It certainly doesn't appear I've taken any words out of context.

And I'm not surprised you pitch more is better since you have a biased conflict of interest in selling the supplements you recommend mega dosing with.

What I don't understand is why you've been allowed to spam various threads with the link to your web site where you are obviously selling supplements and services.

And what has been taken out of context are the cherry picked studies that you attempt to twist into "more is better".

You did take my words out of context and I might add, in a spiteful condescending manner, that is surprising, considering the idealist intent of Longcity.

I said more is better up to a point of diminishing returns - which applies to non-toxic nutrients. You just quoted me as saying "more is better" which is incorrect without qualifying it, as I did.

I don't sell supplements or spam links to my web site -- which is a free information site - and I do not sell any service. Everything my site presents is consistent with my intention to inform people with no request for anything in return.

So you once more make a rather spiteful leap of faith in a statement to denigrade me, indicating your spiteful, mean-spirited bias.

I'm surprised that the moderators allow you to post, since you get nasty, rude and spiteful, as a matter of course.

Most of us are here for idealistic/altruistic reasons. You stand out as being "other" than an altruist or idealist.

[zorba990]

This is one of the better drinks, as you can't taste the Oo...

There's an easy fix for this problem- Just start with olive oil that tastes good. For most people, that's going to mean an oil that isn't super high polyphenol. Finding an oil that's both high polyphenol and also tastes good can be a challenge.

I actually quite like the taste of Bariani now. No problem downing a few Tbl in a shot glass. It does burn the throat.

[mikey]

I was given the "Activist of the Year" award by the second largest lobbying group in the USA for my work in helping pass a federal law that protected consumers from FDA trying to make dietary supplements into prescription items in 1994 - The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA), so I know FDA well, as we beat them at their own game.

This is no longer 1994. It's no longer if, but when the FDA takes over. There is definitely going to be more government regulation in the years to come. In case you weren't aware, regulation no longer requires a vote of congress...but simple Presidential decree....hold on tight...

http://cnsnews.com/n...-average-68-day

The authors did not discuss an upper limit, therefore, as usual, more is better,

And that is twisted logic. More is seldom better....everything is either a bell or inverse U curve where any amount beyond the "sweet spot" is not "diminishing returns" but headed back in the direction of as bad or worse than deficiency. Dosage studies of everything ever tested have shown a curve relationship....it just doesn't keep going up linearly to infinity. And nothing is non-toxic or side effect free...it's always relative to dose. The poison is always in the dose...of everything. And "More is better" is not only bad advice but dangerous advice.

You obviously haven't studied the history of FDA's attempts at making vitamins into prescription items. It's happened three times in the last fifty years and each time consumer political groups defeated them. Logic says that history will repeat itself.

You're wrong about dosing - more is generally not only better - it's best. Your statement indicates that you are not familiar with the thousands of nutrient dosing studies that show anti-aging effects at higher, more optimal doses.

As to toxicity - these are some of the nutrients that the National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine says are non-toxic at very high doses, where a Lowest Observed Adverse Effect (LOAEL) has not been found:
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
Vitamin B1
Vitamin B2
Vitamin K
Folic acid
Vitamin B12
Biotin
Pantothenic acid
Chromium (III)

Additionally, a Minimum Toxic Dose (MTD) has not been determined for:
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
Vitamin K
Vitamin B12
Manganese
Chromium (III)
Molybdenum

And then there's folic acid's MTD of 400,000 mcg - 1,000 times the RDA. Quite a wide U-curve.

Careful study of published studies confirm that optimal anti-aging effects occur in the higher doses, not lower doses, as dozens of studies show nutrients either working or not working until their dosage reaches a threshold dose where the optimal dosage range begins.

For nutrients that exhibit some kind of toxicity, there is a U-curve. But for some nutrients, like vitamin B12, no toxicity manifests as dosages increase but deliver diminishing returns. One can spend more on higher dosages but get no more benefit above its optimal dosage range.

With over 200,000,000 people taking vitamin B12 a day for dozens of years, there has never been a report of toxicity.

As with vitamin C, the only adverse effect reported is the bowel tolerance level. However, vitamin C does not cause cytotoxicity at any dose.

You might read http://ajcn.nutritio...7.full.pdf html
and http://www.ianrpubs....blicationId=295

[Anthony_Loera]

I think by now, you all can guess what i like with my C60...

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[volare8888]

I think by now, you all can guess what i like with my C60...

A

Hi Anthony,

following this thread for several weeks, I have noticed that you are the individual with the highest daily dose (similar dose as for the rat study), then you have reduced to a smaller dose. Could you please update me on your latest regime (with breaks, if any), and the reasons for the changes?

I have 1gr of C60 in 1.5 litre of EVOO, soon to be ready, and I am trying to identify a dose regime for a 50y-old rat of 70kg....

Thanks
John

[tintinet]

This is one of the better drinks, as you can't taste the Oo...

There's an easy fix for this problem- Just start with olive oil that tastes good. For most people, that's going to mean an oil that isn't super high polyphenol. Finding an oil that's both high polyphenol and also tastes good can be a challenge.

Dunno- I'm kind of addicted to the taste of olive oil, now. Judging from my empty bottles, I've taken about 750 ml of C60 OO over the past few months. But I'm beginning to think it's all just hype and placebo effect. I've noticed nothing dramatic.

[niner]

Judging from my empty bottles, I've taken about 750 ml of C60 OO over the past few months. But I'm beginning to think it's all just hype and placebo effect. I've noticed nothing dramatic.

If you're healthy and you are not in the habit of pushing yourself to the point of muscle fatigue (ie, where you can't do another rep even if you try), then there isn't much to feel. That doesn't mean it isn't working. If you did before and after blood tests for redox status, I think you'd see a signal.