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[mikey]

Considering that telomere length is only weakly correlated with age, getting all the markers to fall in the same year would be like winning the lottery.

I agree. Thanks for the graph. Makes you wonder- is that real human variation or is that spread more a function of the precision of the method they use to measure length?

Or, in fact, does Mikey's vendor have any real way of measuring it?

Well, Greenpower did several telomere tests with the lab I used, Repeat Diagnostics, testing various purported telomerase stims over six month time periods. See his post at http://www.longecity...050#entry444060

The tests after using the Solgar Astragalus extract showed a 43.9% increase in NK telomeres, so Repeat Diagnostics seems to be on the up and up because his tests showed variation.

Edited by mikey, 28 December 2012 - 12:57 AM.

[waa1964]

Slightly off topic but further to an earlier post, here is some more info on the Russion guy (Vladimir P Skulachev) who is working on an anti-aging product that is now selling in Russian pharmacies.
Jump to the 13 minute mark https://www.youtube....bed/HMKHa8Yp2tU

[somecallmetim]

This is my first report on my experiences consuming C60OO. First some background: I'm a 41 yr old male, 6 ft tall, weigh approx. 215 lbs., diagnosed w/ Crohn's in 2007. I take no medications, and have managed the Crohn's thru diet mainly. But with unpredictable work schedule and lately, the holidays, I've been eating mostly anything & everything. I started consuming small, daily doses of .2 mg for five days and noticed nothing, so for the next two days I consumed 6.2 mg each day - still nothing. I have been taking 3.1 mg one day a week for the past 3 weeks. I have not noticed any changes - good or bad - since consuming C60OO.

The olive oil I used was Fillipo Berio extra virgin organic.

[Fred_CALICO]

With huge doses like these .... Quantity is the olive oil begins to ask problem.
0.8 mg / mL -> 20 mg / day> 24 mL / day olive oil
This is limited.

[kenorb]

My information:
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Occupation: IT
Race: Caucasians white
Residence: EU
Age: 25-35
Weight: 60-70kg
C60 Dose: 0.2mg once or twice a day
C60 Source: owndoc
Time frame: 4 days so far
Smoke: Never
Alcohol: Few times a month.
Main drinks: water, tea
Exercise? Once a month.
Hair: Black
Healthy life: no aspartame, sweeteners, sugar, aluminium

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Possible effects noticed:

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Very small doses (1/10 of pipe per day) mixed with water or juice is enough for me to get the kick.

- First time
It was Friday evening and I was exausted after work. Days before I tried Syn-RG small doses (~0.2mg), end up only with some headaches (nothing more).
I was too lazy to go to the shop. When took that evening C60 for the first time (smallest possible dose using dropper ~0.2mg), within 15-20min something kicked me and I had to get some fresh air with some weird feeling. Went to shop (close to A&E in case). When going home with my gf (after half an hour), for a few minutes I had trouble with thinking and speaking (mumbling something). The rest of the evening was ok.

Weekend was ok (tried only smallest possible doses once a day).

On Monday I took a very small dose in the morning, had whole day of meetings at work. I was feeling very good, my thoughts were very clear (even I didn't sleep enough - only 5h of sleep time, 68% Deep+REM, 76% Efficiency, [based on Sleep Time app]). So clear that I couldn't focus on the meeting anyway:)

Tuesday suppose to be another great day, took a few sips in the morning of yesterdays juice with C60 (~0.1mg). During lunch drunk 1/3 of Caffé latte. After late afternoon I drunk two sips of strawberry Nrich (Healthy Energy Nutritionally Balanced Milk drink). It kicked me within 15-20minutes, I wasn't sure what's happening, so I went to take some fresh air, did some calls (just in case), run a minute, sit down for a few minutes and went back to work. I was drinking still water all the time, after 1h I felt better. The feeling was: strange headache, itching at the back of the head (kind of inside), feeling something cold (probably air) in my head, shaking hands, etc. I could compare only to headaches when taking too much doses of Aniracetam or other racetams. After 2h still feeling some kind of cold air in my head and I keep itching my back of my head.

- Increased Sex Drive?
No.

- Reduction in stress?
Yes.

- My Recommendations?

Because C60 is very powerful antioxidant, be careful if:
- you are smoking (having some nicotine in your body),
- you're heavy drinker,
- you're having heavy metals in your body (try hair tissue mineral analysis),
- mixing with High-Caffeine drinks (Red Bulls, etc.),
So try the lowest possible doses for the first time and keep increasing it.

If you've trouble with breathing (especially in the middle of the night when your liver works in peak-time), take some fresh air, try some excercises or short running to speed up the blood flow.
Also try to avoid sunbathe when taking C60, because of possible sunburns.
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Edited by kenorb, 08 January 2013 - 06:56 PM.

[trance]

Hmmm ... I take much more, and I even tried an Anthony dose of 50ml a couple of times in the past, and never came close to any of those "symptoms." Actually, other than missing the flu virus as it rolled through my work & home environments, better skin tone, and overall feeling much better, I see no weird or exaggerated effects at all -- at least nothing compared to what you just described.

Are you taking any other supplements or drugs or spirits as well?

[kenorb]

Hmmm ... I take much more, and I even tried an Anthony dose of 50ml a couple of times in the past, and never came close to any of those "symptoms." Actually, other than missing the flu virus as it rolled through my work & home environments, better skin tone, and overall feeling much better, I see no weird or exaggerated effects at all -- at least nothing compared to what you just described.

Are you taking any other supplements or drugs or spirits as well?

Not at the moment, I'm trying to avoid any distraction whilst testing C60 for the first few weeks to have clear idea what's going on.
Probably I'm very sensitive to any BBB drugs.
But I've Pramiracetam ready to take in the next weeks.

Edited by kenorb, 08 January 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[angus]

Because C60 is very powerful antioxidant, be careful if:
- you are smoking (having some nicotine in your body),
- you're heavy drinker,
- you're having heavy metals in your body (try hair tissue mineral analysis),
- mixing with High-Caffeine drinks (Red Bulls, etc.),
So try the lowest possible doses for the first time and keep increasing it.
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Hi,

I'm 35, 60kg, no smoke, almost no alcool and taking also low doses (owndoc 1ml max, 0.5 most of the time weekly) since 2 months and a half.
I started daily then switched to weekly as i tolerated badly from the third day. I do think that cycling it is important and taking it daily is not a good idea (as turnbuckle argued).

I also have the same feeling than you kenorb, very small dose are powerfull. I see it clearly when doing sport. This stuff potentiates drugs, so be careful when coupling w/ supplement combo or drugs (i clearly saw it w/ alopecia drugs i used to take in the morning, so I now take c60oo 5 hours later).
I tend to avoid taking it in the evening because it troubled my sleep at a such point that i slept 12 hours the day after to recover.

Perhaps this small dose over-reaction is due to the fact that kenorb and I do not weigh heavily and aren't into old age (ie mitochondria theory).

One thing I tried is applying it topicaly and I'd like you guys to try it and give feedback. It's winter so the c60+singlet oxygen mentioned by Dr Moussa should not be to worry.
I apply it just under the hair line and during the following hours i felt more focused in the same way than when taking some nootropics. I just need to apply 2 or 3 drops (oo penetrate very well the skin). Give it a try please.

This is something I did not experienced at all when taking it orally, even at larger dose (for me it's 2ml ;-)
When taking it orally, i clearly see an effect in sport and well being but regarding my mind, on the contrary i feel like if someone cleared my mind, not a nootropic effect at all!

I plan to test with astaxanthin and other lipidic supplement (following the adduct theory) and will give you some feedback.

[somecallmetim]

Kenorb,

If you want to avoid excess sugar, then I would discontinue drinking Nrich energy drinks - they have 53 grams of sugar per can.

Those are some interesting effects you are experiencing with the small dosages of C60 you are taking. I, myself haven't experienced anything to write home about from my consumption of C60OO, and I've taken dosages as high as 6.2 mg of C60 at a time.

Edited by somecallmetim, 08 January 2013 - 10:03 PM.

[YOLF]

@Kenorb:
You mentioned that you took some Syn-RG before starting C60 and that it caused headaches? I would look into the biological half-life's of the ingredients. Is it possible that the supplement was potentiated to an effect different than the headache or that the chemistry of the headache was changed as well as potentiated by the C60? Are you still having side effects? Why do you say that it was working so good you couldn't pay attention at the meeting?

[kenorb]

@Kenorb:
You mentioned that you took some Syn-RG before starting C60 and that it caused headaches? I would look into the biological half-life's of the ingredients. Is it possible that the supplement was potentiated to an effect different than the headache or that the chemistry of the headache was changed as well as potentiated by the C60? Are you still having side effects? Why do you say that it was working so good you couldn't pay attention at the meeting?

Syn-RG contains mainly Astaxanthin which I was testing for the first time. I also was taking small pipette doses (1/10), these were some small headaches (mainly in the first day of 1 week testing) in comparison with C60 which actually I can't tell if these are some negative or positive headaches (or some kind of rapid changes), but my first few days are just scary and I don't know what to expect. I'll follow angus advise, to take it less often than daily or even weekly.
I had side effects only 2h (possible excess of sugar or it potentiated all the vitamins), but till evening I still feel that icy/cold feeling in my head. Not sure if it's positive or negative feeling (at least my head is not heavy).

Regarding the meeting, within few hours I was focused more on the people speech (I'm not native), catching phrases, stayed more focused, but still I wasn't more social. After that (next few hours) I couldn't focus on the meeting, most of the people were already tired, I've started thinking about some fresh ideas, future plans and some other positive things. Generally it was a great experience.

Also I forgot to mention, that my gums are more sensitive. Sometimes I had some small bleedings from few days (especially front teeth). Generally speaking I'm starting to "feel" my gums.

Edited by kenorb, 09 January 2013 - 01:43 AM.

[kenorb]

Those are some interesting effects you are experiencing with the small dosages of C60 you are taking. I, myself haven't experienced anything to write home about from my consumption of C60OO, and I've taken dosages as high as 6.2 mg of C60 at a time.

What's your weight/age then?
How often and for how long are you taking?

[YOLF]

@Kenorb:
You mentioned that you took some Syn-RG before starting C60 and that it caused headaches? I would look into the biological half-life's of the ingredients. Is it possible that the supplement was potentiated to an effect different than the headache or that the chemistry of the headache was changed as well as potentiated by the C60? Are you still having side effects? Why do you say that it was working so good you couldn't pay attention at the meeting?

Syn-RG contains mainly Astaxanthin which I was testing for the first time. I also was taking small pipette doses (1/10), these were some small headaches (mainly in the first day of 1 week testing) in comparison with C60 which actually I can't tell if these are some negative or positive headaches (or some kind of rapid changes), but my first few days are just scary and I don't know what to expect. I'll follow angus advise, to take it less often than daily or even weekly.
I had side effects only 2h (possible excess of sugar or it potentiated all the vitamins), but till evening I still feel that icy/cold feeling in my head. Not sure if it's positive or negative feeling (at least my head is not heavy).

Regarding the meeting, within few hours I was focused more on the people speech (I'm not native), catching phrases, stayed more focused, but still I wasn't more social. After that (next few hours) I couldn't focus on the meeting, most of the people were already tired, I've started thinking about some fresh ideas, future plans and some other positive things. Generally it was a great experience.

Also I forgot to mention, that my gums are more sensitive. Sometimes I had some small bleedings from few days (especially front teeth). Generally speaking I'm starting to "feel" my gums.

Could the bleeding have been a stubborn piece of food? That's usually the cause for me and also causes headaches at the same time, esp if I can't floss it out and have to wait for it to come out on its own...

Have you had your wisdom teeth removed? Any kind of gum disease in the family? What's the condition of your toothbrush? Do you use a sonic toothbrush? Do you have cavities or fillings (metal/amalgam)? Any replaced teeth? You're an immigrant to the UK? What country did you come from, what were your living circumstances like?

It's good to see someone else my age trying this stuff. I quit smoking recently so I'm going to at least wait for 6 months before trying it as some smokers mentioned the effects of smoking were amplified and 6 months is how long it takes for cardiovascular symptoms of smoking to disappear. That might even be the time by which one of AgeVivo's mice surpass their usual lifespan or maybe their current max, they will be 31 months by that time I think. Max for none transgenic dwarf mice is about 3 years. so healthy at 31 doesn't sound that bad to me and gives us two species. Plus we have cats, dogs, and chickens in the works. I'm excited!

[kenorb]

Could the bleeding have been a stubborn piece of food? That's usually the cause for me and also causes headaches at the same time, esp if I can't floss it out and have to wait for it to come out on its own...

Could be the reason of a stubborn piece of food, but I didn't have this before. Also I had this kind of bleeding, when somebody lightly clapped me in the face.

Have you had your wisdom teeth removed? Any kind of gum disease in the family? What's the condition of your toothbrush? Do you use a sonic toothbrush? Do you have cavities or fillings (metal/amalgam)? Any replaced teeth? You're an immigrant to the UK? What country did you come from, what were your living circumstances like?

I still have wisdom teeth.
No any gum disease, no any teeth bleeding before (only after hard brushing).
I'm not using sonic toothbrush, only some kind of 360 (but it happened few times before brushing).
I don't have any metal or replaced teeth, just some small fillings.
Originally I'm from EU/PL
One month ago I was living (just temporary for 2 weeks) in London in some terrible place (fungus everywhere), but I've moved into new studio, so my circumstances at the moment are great.

Edited by kenorb, 09 January 2013 - 09:49 AM.

[somecallmetim]

Those are some interesting effects you are experiencing with the small dosages of C60 you are taking. I, myself haven't experienced anything to write home about from my consumption of C60OO, and I've taken dosages as high as 6.2 mg of C60 at a time.

What's your weight/age then?
How often and for how long are you taking?

I posted my experiences so far (> 1 month) in post #1683 of this thread.

[YOLF]

Could the bleeding have been a stubborn piece of food? That's usually the cause for me and also causes headaches at the same time, esp if I can't floss it out and have to wait for it to come out on its own...

Could be the reason of a stubborn piece of food, but I didn't have this before. Also I had this kind of bleeding, when somebody lightly clapped me in the face.

Have you had your wisdom teeth removed? Any kind of gum disease in the family? What's the condition of your toothbrush? Do you use a sonic toothbrush? Do you have cavities or fillings (metal/amalgam)? Any replaced teeth? You're an immigrant to the UK? What country did you come from, what were your living circumstances like?

I still have wisdom teeth.
No any gum disease, no any teeth bleeding before (only after hard brushing).
I'm not using sonic toothbrush, only some kind of 360 (but it happened few times before brushing).
I don't have any metal or replaced teeth, just some small fillings.
Originally I'm from EU/PL
One month ago I was living (just temporary for 2 weeks) in London in some terrible place (fungus everywhere), but I've moved into new studio, so my circumstances at the moment are great.

Hmmm.. Read this (link below), it lists headache, bleeding gums, but also lots of other symptoms you don't have. It's specific to black mold (a fungus). C60 potentiates some substances, perhaps it does the same to mycotoxins? It would be interesting to hear a chemist or pathologist chime in here. You should also start your own log thread. We may gain very beneficial information from your case. My guess is that you'll be fine with only two weeks exposure, it doesn't look like you should have any permanent damage.
http://lachicaorgani...ungus-exposure/

This would definitely be interesting if it turns out correct. I imagine that the immune system would have a stronger response to a potentiated toxin. Perhaps C60 increases the immune sys's response rather the toxic effects, or that toxins that usually don't get noticed easily get more attention? Perhaps a dying cell's toxic byproducts stimulate more of response leading to more of them dying. C60 is definitely getting interesting! We need to raise money to do further testing of our rodents in the study!

Edited by cryonicsculture, 09 January 2013 - 03:39 PM.

[kenorb]

This is my first report on my experiences consuming C60OO. First some background: I'm a 41 yr old male, 6 ft tall, weigh approx. 215 lbs., diagnosed w/ Crohn's in 2007. I take no medications, and have managed the Crohn's thru diet mainly. But with unpredictable work schedule and lately, the holidays, I've been eating mostly anything & everything. I started consuming small, daily doses of .2 mg for five days and noticed nothing, so for the next two days I consumed 6.2 mg each day - still nothing. I have been taking 3.1 mg one day a week for the past 3 weeks. I have not noticed any changes - good or bad - since consuming C60OO.

The olive oil I used was Fillipo Berio extra virgin organic.

Maybe you should change your C60 source? Maybe it's just an olive oil?
Try the same as I had and see the difference.

Hmmm.. Read this (link below), it lists headache, bleeding gums, but also lots of other symptoms you don't have. It's specific to black mold (a fungus). C60 potentiates some substances, perhaps it does the same to mycotoxins? It would be interesting to hear a chemist or pathologist chime in here. You should also start your own log thread. We may gain very beneficial information from your case. My guess is that you'll be fine with only two weeks exposure, it doesn't look like you should have any permanent damage.
http://lachicaorgani...ungus-exposure/

I'm not sure if it's related, because it was 1 month ago when I was exposed to fungus. And sensitive gums I've within few days of taking C60.

Edited by kenorb, 09 January 2013 - 04:52 PM.

[YOLF]

This is my first report on my experiences consuming C60OO. First some background: I'm a 41 yr old male, 6 ft tall, weigh approx. 215 lbs., diagnosed w/ Crohn's in 2007. I take no medications, and have managed the Crohn's thru diet mainly. But with unpredictable work schedule and lately, the holidays, I've been eating mostly anything & everything. I started consuming small, daily doses of .2 mg for five days and noticed nothing, so for the next two days I consumed 6.2 mg each day - still nothing. I have been taking 3.1 mg one day a week for the past 3 weeks. I have not noticed any changes - good or bad - since consuming C60OO.

The olive oil I used was Fillipo Berio extra virgin organic.

Maybe you should change your C60 source? Maybe it's just an olive oil?
Try the same as I had and see the difference.

Hmmm.. Read this (link below), it lists headache, bleeding gums, but also lots of other symptoms you don't have. It's specific to black mold (a fungus). C60 potentiates some substances, perhaps it does the same to mycotoxins? It would be interesting to hear a chemist or pathologist chime in here. You should also start your own log thread. We may gain very beneficial information from your case. My guess is that you'll be fine with only two weeks exposure, it doesn't look like you should have any permanent damage.
http://lachicaorgani...ungus-exposure/

I'm not sure if it's related, because it was 1 month ago when I was exposed to fungus. And sensitive gums I've within few days of taking C60.

I'm not sure about the specific fungus, but they can have reservoirs. Then again it may be nothing. I thought it would be good to collect all of the possible adverse/side effects in one thread devoted to just that:
http://www.longecity...ts-of-c60-here/

[YOLF]

Actually, it looks like I created a duplicate thread. Try this post:
http://www.longecity...post__p__524406

The user reports a recurrence of a side effect from a drug he hadn't taken for a while.

[kenorb]

Yesterday I had strong headache and nausea after watching 2h of 3D movie in the cinema.
Normally I can watch 3 movies in the row (including one in 3D).
Today headaches after coffee with milk.
My dosage was very small 2 days ago.

Edited by kenorb, 10 January 2013 - 04:30 PM.

[YOLF]

What kind of 3D movie? Colored glasses or clear/tinted? Colored glasses always give me headaches. Could probably watch RealD (clear glasses) all day without getting a headache. Milk can cause headaches if you are allergic or lactose intolerant, but it usually takes alot more than what's in coffee to do it. I've heard people say caffeine's effects become stronger with C60, but nothing about causing headaches. Unless you never get headaches though, I think it's unrelated. See if it happens again next time you have coffee and don't watch a 3D movie.

[kenorb]

What kind of 3D movie? Colored glasses or clear/tinted? Colored glasses always give me headaches. Could probably watch RealD (clear glasses) all day without getting a headache. Milk can cause headaches if you are allergic or lactose intolerant, but it usually takes alot more than what's in coffee to do it. I've heard people say caffeine's effects become stronger with C60, but nothing about causing headaches. Unless you never get headaches though, I think it's unrelated. See if it happens again next time you have coffee and don't watch a 3D movie.

I had Real 3D clear glasses. But on that day that watched movie, I didn't drink coffee, but followed by 0,5l of Coke (maybe too much sugar/caffeine before that?). Strong nausea definitely was caused by 3D movie.
I'm rather lactose intolerant.
The coffee (latte, low caffeine) I drunk another day (half a glass), with some strong headaches (but without nausea).
Usually I never get any headaches by it-self (without 3rd party drugs). I never took any pills for headaches.

Edited by kenorb, 11 January 2013 - 10:58 AM.

[YOLF]

Well I guess it could be the lactose intolerance... You would know better than I. But I don't think small amounts of milk such that would be in coffee would bother me. I wouldn't really say I'm lactose intolerant either. But if I drink it daily with cereal or by itself for several days, it does cause headaches.

Popcorn is terrible for arteries and blood pressure, maybe that kind of headache due to stressful movie events? I'm not sure, maybe you should stop taking C60 and wait to see if anyone else experiences the same things. I would copy these posts to the side effect thread listed above:
http://www.longecity...680#entry557612

I suppose the lactose intolerance could be made worse by the C60 too. You'd definitely get more feedback in the side effect thread.

[kenorb]

My girlfriend took a half of 1.5ml pipette (so it's around 0.7mg) 2 days in a row in the mornings, she didn't notice anything yet.

[YOLF]

My girlfriend took a half of 1.5ml pipette (so it's around 0.7mg) 2 days in a row in the mornings, she didn't notice anything yet.

Is she healthy? Does she work out? It's often those who work out who notice it the most.

We need to somehow communicate the need to collect metrics prior to use so we can get better information. If you give it to anyone else, make sure you find out if they are willing to record metrics like 1 km running time and some weight training exercises if applicable. The info could become data for human trials. Definitely have them come here and participate in discussion so we can examine their habits and determine how we can best determine if/what gains are achieved.

[kenorb]

My girlfriend took a half of 1.5ml pipette (so it's around 0.7mg) 2 days in a row in the mornings, she didn't notice anything yet.

Is she healthy? Does she work out? It's often those who work out who notice it the most.

We need to somehow communicate the need to collect metrics prior to use so we can get better information. If you give it to anyone else, make sure you find out if they are willing to record metrics like 1 km running time and some weight training exercises if applicable. The info could become data for human trials. Definitely have them come here and participate in discussion so we can examine their habits and determine how we can best determine if/what gains are achieved.

She's healthy, 30-35yo, 60-65kg, no workout for the last few months.

[lafeate]

I am not a scientist and sometimes find that I can't understand much of the content on this forum but decided I would share my C60 experiences. First a little bit about me:

• Age - 35
• Sex - Male
• Sexuality - Gay HIV- (not sure if this matters but I wanted you to have lots of info)
• Weight - 215
• Height - 6' 2"
• Occupation - Enterprise Software Sales (White Collar)
• Education - CPA (Never use it......)
• Race - Caucasian
• Diet - Everything and anything! (5,000 calories per day on average)
• Body Type - Stocky (Football Player)
• Location - San Diego, CA (6 Years), San Antonio, Texas (20 Years) & Wellington, New Zealand (9 Years)
• Genetic Predisposition - Cancer <esophageal, prostate, lung & breast>, Heart Disease & Diabetes (I never met most of my elders because they did not live long enough to meet me)

As you may ascertain I don't come form the best stock and felt as it my clock was ticking. I also feel that there are not enough younger people giving this a shot and perhaps that is with good reason. I feel I have a lot less to lose than the average person my age and felt the community could benefit from my experiences. My current course:

• 4mg of C60 1 week per month (just completed my 3rd month)
• 50mg of Trans-Resveratrol Daily (only on non-C60 days)
• Prilosec (I have suffered from acid reflux my entire life and am trying to avoid esophageal cancer)
• 100mg Zoloft (I have been on this since my teens and bad things happen when I get off)

My observations thus far:

• I suffered from severe acne on my back and shoulders as a child, which left significant scaring and has been a center of embarrassment my entire life. While it is still possible to detect some of the scars for the most part they have cleared up of which is a benefit that I never expected. This is probably the most significant change for me as I can really say that this is not a placebo effect as the scars I have looked at daily for the lest 20 years are now gone.
• When I was in my 20's I used to be able to get a very long and solid nights sleep and very much enjoyed sleeping late on the weekends but at some point in my 30's I lost this magical ability. I have noticed that my sleep patterns have returned to the patterns I had in my 20's. While this is not a huge benefit and I don't try to determine the reasons why this occurs, as I don't have an appropriate background, it is much enjoyed and I feel very well rested on a daily basis. This occurs even on weeks that I am not dosing.
• I workout about 5 times per week (about 2 hours per day) and can't say that I have noticed any of the effects that have been described by other members of the forum. I can't do any additional reps or lift extra weight even when dosing C60.
• Here is the odd part... My hair is darker and I have noticed much less red tones in my hair than perviously. I would never have noticed this on my own but several people have commented and even accused me of dying my hair to eliminate gray. Haters!
• I have also notice that my hairline has headed South again after about 5 years of retreating North. When new hairs start they grow they are rather annoying because I have fine hair and it's hard enough to style without new hairs that are too short to manage. While it sounds like I am complaining I am very happy that I could possibly stave off hair loss for a while as most of the men in my family do not enjoy a full head of hair.
• On the down side I have noticed joint pain during the weeks that I am taking C60. The pain stops the day after my dosing is complete and is not of an unmanageable nature so I have decided to ignore and proceed.

I had some blood work done prior to staring my regimen of which the results were:

Cholesterol 212 < 200 - mg/dL H Borderline Risk 200-240 mg/dL
High Risk > 240 mg/dL Triglycerides 206 10 - 170 mg/dL H HDL-Cholesterol 32 M: >55 - mg/dL L LDL-Chol (Calc) 139 <160 - mg/dL

Glucose 105 70 - 115 - mg/dL BUN 12 6 - 20 mg/dL Creatinine 0.76 0.67 - 1.17 mg/dL GFR >60 mL/min This is an estimated glomerular filtration rate
(mL/min/1.73 m2) based on the MDRD equation.
CKD Stage 3: GFR 30-59
CKD Stage 4: GFR 15-29
CKD Stage 5: GFR < 15 or dialysis dependent GFR (African Amer.) >60 mL/min Sodium 142 136 - 145 mmol/L Potassium 4.5 3.5 - 5.1 mmol/L Chloride 105 98 - 107 mmol/L Bicarbonate 28 22 - 29 mmol/L Calcium 9.5 8.6 - 10.5 mg/dL Bilirubin, Tot 0.3 <1.2 - mg/dL Total Protein 7.3 6.0 - 8.0 - gm/dL Albumin 4.6 3.5 - 5.2 gm/dL AST (SGOT) 24 M: 0 - 40 - U/L ALT (SGPT) 29 M: 0 - 41 - U/L Alkaline Phos 76 M: 40-129 - U/L


As of last week my results are:

Cholesterol 194 <200 mg/dL Borderline Risk 200-240 mg/dL
High Risk > 240 mg/dL HDL-Cholesterol 28 mg/dL An HDL Cholesterol <40 mg/dL is a risk factor for
coronary heart disease. LDL-Chol (Calc) 127 <160 mg/dL Triglycerides 197 10 - 170 mg/dL H

Glucose 88 70 - 115 mg/dL BUN 12 6 - 20 mg/dL Creatinine 0.85 0.67 - 1.17 mg/dL Sodium 141 136 - 145 mmol/L Potassium 4.5 3.5 - 5.1 mmol/L Chloride 104 98 - 107 mmol/L Bicarbonate 27 22 - 29 mmol/L Calcium 9.8 8.6 - 10.5 mg/dL


I have made zero changes to my lifestyle of the last 90 days with the exception of poor eating habits over the holidays. Please note I have no idea what any of this means but just wanted to get it all out there. I hope this helps and provides additional data for everyone. Let me know if you have any questions.

[stephen_b]

@lafeate, welcome to the forum. FWIW I had acid reflux too, which is 90% better now that I eliminated tomatoes. I had an unexpected sensitivity to them.

5000 calories a day? Are you gaining weight. If not, I have to wonder if you're not overtraining. In the long run that can undermine your health pretty drastically.

I'm taking about 16 mg C60 every two weeks. I've noticed some joint pain, but I don't know if I can attribute it to C60. I've found vitamin K2-MK4 to help (I take a dose that's larger than many on this forum at 10 mg/day).

[Adamzski]

What is you c60 source?

Im not sure about these reports of scars disappearing. I am not even sure how anything taken internally could change scar tissue into non scar tissue. Scars can not clear up. Pits could get plumped out but then you would be noticing the effects all over your body.

I experienced better and more solid sleep.

Not sure about the hair, I did get a little more itchy but had no noticeable new growth.

[Hebbeh]

4mg of C60 1 week per month (just completed my 3rd month)

Glucose 105
Glucose 88

Is that 4mg of C60 per day for a total of 28mg for the week/month...or a total of 4mg for the week/month?

And that is a dramatic lowering of blood sugar from 105 to 88 with no other interventions. I believe that I am the only other individual reporting effects on blood sugar...but in my case I tend to go from low normal to bordering on hypoglycemic at times. But I tend to eat lowish carb on less than half the calories you enjoy...