I'm sure most would understand that if anything did happen to another person on here, it is more likely to be from accute health problems they had before they started the C60 oo
Edited by a pleb, 15 October 2012 - 05:42 PM.
Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:42 PM
Edited by a pleb, 15 October 2012 - 05:42 PM.
Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:14 PM
I don't think fullerene acts primarily through mitoneogenesis, if at all.
Rather,akin to methylene blue, I suspect it acts directly on the electron transport chain within the mitochondria, possibly reducing / eliminating electron transport bottlenecks that occur along the chain.
Methylene blue acts on complex 4.
Speaking of methylene blue, I tried 1 mg in water this morning--along with 10 mg C60 in oil--to see if there was any synergy for running. Nope. Could be a coincidence, but I had all sorts of ankle and calf and thigh pains that discouraged me from running at all.
Turnbuckle, please don't take any other drugs than C60 because we could not understand what the changes of your health are caused by. If you get ill or die no one will dare touch C60 until at least the study is replicated. All eyes are on you now.
Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:34 AM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:33 AM
I have taken lots of C60... Maybe even more than Turnbuckle since I have done the full rat dose per kg... For about 21 days... (3 different batches) And I feel fine.
Lately I have just lowered my dose to 1 full tablespoon of C60oo per meal... To see how different that seems.
Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:47 PM
Edited by Anthony_Loera, 16 October 2012 - 01:48 PM.
Posted 17 October 2012 - 06:10 AM
Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:20 AM
Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:02 PM
The rat dosage was not daily. I think that with the dispersal rate of 10 days, a medium basil rate should be acheived with 1.5 - 3 mg per day for an average person. Base 15 - 30 mg basil at all times. This could be easily diluted into EVOO in a solution easy to take.
Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:14 PM
Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:06 AM
The rat dosage was not daily. I think that with the dispersal rate of 10 days, a medium basil rate should be acheived with 1.5 - 3 mg per day for an average person. Base 15 - 30 mg basil at all times. This could be easily diluted into EVOO in a solution easy to take.
Nope the rat dose was only taken for 7 days in the study, then weekly, then monthly i believe. I do believe we have much better metabolisms than rats. I took 3 batches at the original dose per kg mentioned in the study (which was almost a cup of oil every day for 7 days for every batch)
Now i am taking a tablespoon or more a day. Kevin, are there C60 studies on humans that i am not aware of? or are your numbers based on estimates of some sort?
Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:37 AM
Posted 20 October 2012 - 01:11 AM
Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:09 AM
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:04 AM
I hope the smaller dose works for you. I will side on a larger dose for now. Also lets keep this thread about C60 on point, as it appears (at least for now) that C60 maybe better at keeping animals living longer than all the other drugs and supplements we have looked into.
Cheers
A
Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:13 PM
I remember seeing someone post in this topic that the healing springs around the world, like Lourdes and Bhutan have been shown to have high levels of fullerenes.
If anyone knows where that post is, please let me know.
Edited by Turnbuckle, 26 October 2012 - 02:14 PM.
Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:16 PM
Turnbuckle isn't dead yet... And neither am I.
I have taken lots of C60... Maybe even more than Turnbuckle since I have done the full rat dose per kg... For about 21 days... (3 different batches) And I feel fine.
Lately I have just lowered my dose to 1 full tablespoon of C60oo per meal... To see how different that seems.
Cheers
A
Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:18 PM
Posted 27 October 2012 - 06:13 AM
I remember seeing someone post in this topic that the healing springs around the world, like Lourdes and Bhutan have been shown to have high levels of fullerenes.
If anyone knows where that post is, please let me know.
It was in Russia, in an area with a carbon mineral that contains fullerenes. This mineral--shungite--dates from 2 billion years ago. Back then there wasn't oxygen in the atmosphere to supress the formation of C60.
Vaughter has an article about it--
http://c60antiaging....old-health-spa/
Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:42 PM
Edited by Anthony_Loera, 29 October 2012 - 10:43 PM.
Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:39 PM
Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:29 AM
Would the consumption of this with 10 grams of soluble fiber affect the uptake? I know that you're not supposed to take many fat-soluble supplements (or certain fats, like the Omega-3's in Lovaza prescription fish oil) with high-fiber meals, so I'm wondering if this effect carries over to C60 in olive oil. And if it has to be taken away from meals, does it matter if it's accompanied by enough fat to ensure absorption of fat-soluble nutrients, or can it just be downed on it's own?
Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:33 AM
Would the consumption of this with 10 grams of soluble fiber affect the uptake? I know that you're not supposed to take many fat-soluble supplements (or certain fats, like the Omega-3's in Lovaza prescription fish oil) with high-fiber meals, so I'm wondering if this effect carries over to C60 in olive oil. And if it has to be taken away from meals, does it matter if it's accompanied by enough fat to ensure absorption of fat-soluble nutrients, or can it just be downed on it's own?
Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:26 PM
Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:24 AM
Edited by YodaTW, 01 November 2012 - 04:29 AM.
Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:40 AM
What I am asking is…is it possible that C60 EVOO might gather in the liver and thus deliver the EVOO over years to a vital organ that cleanses the body, and the C60 itself might assist in the filtration of the blood (less likely) and deliver energy (acting as a superconductor in our cells).
Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:52 PM
Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:45 PM
..we treated the rats daily only during 7 days and weekly during the
first two months, then every two weeks until one control rat died.
Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:41 PM
Posted 02 November 2012 - 12:19 AM
Can I ask folks to post the dosage of saturated C60-OO they are taking?
Dosage question: - at 1.7mg/kg - works out to be about 150mg for me -..we treated the rats daily only during 7 days and weekly during the
first two months, then every two weeks until one control rat died.
That would be 150ml for 7days loading - then 150ml/week (21ml/day) for two months - then 21ml/2weeks - or 11ml/day for a 90kg human. Is this what others calculated?
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