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[Q did it!]

Someone should contact maniac_racteam. He has some trusterd suppliers he's used from China in the past. I'd still look around for some suppliers and make some posts on lookchem and alibaba.

Alibaba is your best bet if you one can use Escrow. I have done this in the past.

Edit: There is considerable risk when doing a T/T and such. Which is why we should try and source it from an EU or UK company. I have already listed a few but I will add some more soon.

Edited by Q did it!, 20 March 2013 - 09:42 PM.

[Q did it!]

Sorry US not UK

[Reformed-Redan]

I'm up for 1 gram if that's OK. The way I see it is if this compound works then I'm sure well have another group buy. :D

Edited by redan, 20 March 2013 - 09:53 PM.

[NootropicDiscovery]

Sign me up for 2grams !

My only doubt about this stuff is, why did they quit the experiment ? Because of the side-effects, or maybe dead ? Did someone
already emailed the lab where they invented this nootropics for possible test outcomes ?

[Q did it!]

Some others
http://www.anward.co...o_result/55340/
http://www.bocsci.com/index.asp
Still looking for one more site I saw a while back that is US based.

For those who are interested,
http://www.novochemy...spx?pr_id=13581 and http://www.arkpharmi...AK-55207&falg=3 are both legit and prices are listed. But both require a company to place the order so...

[telight]

I'm down for 2 grams, as long as the price isn't too crazy.

[Major Legend]

Anyone know where we can get the chemicals checked?

[Gerhard van Dieren]

Gonna update the participants every now and then to keep track of the anonymity.

Participants for samples - update 21/3
(price is about ~$20,- per gram)
2g for Gerhard van Dieren
2g for Peakplasma
2g for Spookytooth
2g for Krabby
2g for Major Legend
2g for Kyle McGill
2g for Izan82
2g for Megatrone
2g for Colli
2g for Waitwhatthe
1g for Redan
2g for NootropicDiscovery
2g for Telight
Total: 25g

[hellbounddevildog]

Put me in for 2g as well Please! Caldwell, Idaho, USA

Edited by hellbounddevildog, 21 March 2013 - 03:52 PM.

[Q did it!]

I am in. We still have to figure out how and who to wire the funds too. We have more than enough persons interested so that wont be a problem.

We need to Decide on:
1.) A Supplier and amount 10g, 50g or 100g ???
-----a.)This will set the price per gram and shipping
2.) Who will place the order as a business
3.) Receivers/distributors

I think a 10g purchases is about the right amount needed. We can have 20 persons at .5g a peace that is 100 doses. More than enough to test to see if this substance is what it written to be.


http://www.novochemy...spx?pr_id=13581 and http://www.arkpharmi...AK-55207&falg=3 are our best bets right know we just need a person capable of placing an order. Paypal will work just fine for transferring money.

I am willing to be the receivers/distributor for the US but we will still need a UK receivers/distributors

If Novohemy is choosen than the price for half a gram would be $500(10g)+$60(shipping)=$560 than $560/10(persons)=$56.00 than add $10 for reshipping for a grand total of $65.00 per person for 0.5g. That is 100 doses at 5mg.

info from http://www.novochemy...PE_DELIVERYINFO

Country

Shipping fee (<500g)

Belgium, France, Germany, Spain, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland:

$60.00

Australia, Japan, Korea, New Zealand, Singapore:

$50.00

India:

$75.00

United State:

$60.00

Hungary, Slovakia, Croatia, Poland, Chile:

$60.00

China:

$0.00

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[Reformed-Redan]

I am in. We still have to figure out how and who to wire the funds too. We have more than enough persons interested so that wont be a problem.

We need to Decide on:
1.) A Supplier and amount 10g, 50g or 100g ???
-----a.)This will set the price per gram and shipping
2.) Who will place the order as a business
3.) Receivers/distributors

I think a 10g purchases is about the right amount needed. We can have 20 persons at .5g a peace that is 100 doses. More than enough to test to see if this substance is what it written to be.


http://www.novochemy...spx?pr_id=13581 and http://www.arkpharmi...AK-55207&falg=3 are our best bets right know we just need a person capable of placing an order. Paypal will work just fine for transferring money.

I am willing to be the receivers/distributor for the US but we will still need a UK receivers/distributors

If Novohemy is choosen than the price for half a gram would be $500(10g)+$60(shipping)=$560 than $560/10(persons)=$56.00 than add $10 for reshipping for a grand total of $65.00 per person for 0.5g. That is 100 doses at 5mg.

info from http://www.novochemy...PE_DELIVERYINFO

Country

Shipping fee (<500g)

Belgium, France, Germany, Spain, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland:

$60.00

Australia, Japan, Korea, New Zealand, Singapore:

$50.00

India:

$75.00

United State:

$60.00

Hungary, Slovakia, Croatia, Poland, Chile:

$60.00

China:

$0.00

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Lead Time:

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2. Estimated lead time: 7-9 days [[font=Arial, sans-serif]directly from China to your address with a correct name and value. But we have to cost 10g sample and US$85 as an extra fee to get a special certificate of exporting and so that we can ship a chemical like that][/font][/font]

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Q, if you're going to order from China, there are plenty of other cheaper suppliers. Might want to check them out first. But, at .5g for each person the price per person isn't that great. Better go with a 99% purity with HPLC from the states or UK for 10g.

[Reformed-Redan]

Gonna update the participants every now and then to keep track of the anonymity.

Participants for samples - update 21/3
(price is about ~$20,- per gram)
2g for Gerhard van Dieren
2g for Peakplasma
2g for Spookytooth
2g for Krabby
2g for Major Legend
2g for Kyle McGill
2g for Izan82
2g for Megatrone
2g for Colli
2g for Waitwhatthe
1g for Redan
2g for NootropicDiscovery
2g for Telight
Total: 25g

Is everyone on this list OK with getting .5g? I am. Well try and make out first order 10g and go from there. .5g is 100 doses @ 5mg doses per day.

If the price difference between 10g and 50g or 100g or 500g isn't that steep then we can see from there.

[Major Legend]

yeah, I am fine with getting 5g.

[hellbounddevildog]

Works for me!

[Reformed-Redan]

yeah, I am fine with getting 5g.

Point five gram (.5g)? Yes?

[peakplasma]

0.5g? Won't the s&h cost be more than the price of the actual powder at 0.5g?

At only ~$20 per gram, I think 2 grams might be the minimum to make it worth it.

EDIT: That's not to say I'm not interested.. I'll take .5g but can't we do better?

Edited by peakplasma, 21 March 2013 - 06:09 PM.

[Q did it!]

0.5g? Won't the s&h cost be more than the price of the actual powder at 0.5g?

At only ~$20 per gram, I think 2 grams might be the minimum to make it worth it.

EDIT: That's not to say I'm not interested.. I'll take .5g but can't we do better?

It is just that we are better off going with a company that is for sure is legit. Than taking a risk with everyone money and getting ripped off. But if someone can get a better quote from a company that is US or EU based than great.

But the big question still remains who if anyone is capable and willing place the order.

[lourdaud]

Sign me up please! 0,5 g sounds reasonable but I'd be down for 2 g if the price isn't too high

[Major Legend]

Sorry I thought you meant 5gs, yeah 0.5gs will be fine too!

[Colli]

0.5g is fine with me.

[Q did it!]

The PKR Inhibitor C16 is supposedly the most powerful memory enhancer. You won't see that any time soon. Next ampakines are the best bet a memory enhancers; though, good look finding a safe one.

http://www.scbt.com/...-inhibitor.html

[megatron]

Well, we should try to get more than 0,5g if possible, because I'm probably starting with 10-15mg doses right away, and that wouldn't last very long...

[peakplasma]

0.5g? Won't the s&h cost be more than the price of the actual powder at 0.5g?

At only ~$20 per gram, I think 2 grams might be the minimum to make it worth it.

EDIT: That's not to say I'm not interested.. I'll take .5g but can't we do better?

It is just that we are better off going with a company that is for sure is legit. Than taking a risk with everyone money and getting ripped off. But if someone can get a better quote from a company that is US or EU based than great.

But the big question still remains who if anyone is capable and willing place the order.

Wait, I thought you wanted to be a distributor?

Right now we have half of the people from UK-EU and half in Canada-USA. We could have 2 buyers with 10g for each region.

I think buying 10g and splitting it amongst just 5-10 in the US-CAN is pretty reasonable, no?

Edited by peakplasma, 21 March 2013 - 07:45 PM.

[Q did it!]

0.5g? Won't the s&h cost be more than the price of the actual powder at 0.5g?

At only ~$20 per gram, I think 2 grams might be the minimum to make it worth it.

EDIT: That's not to say I'm not interested.. I'll take .5g but can't we do better?

It is just that we are better off going with a company that is for sure is legit. Than taking a risk with everyone money and getting ripped off. But if someone can get a better quote from a company that is US or EU based than great.

But the big question still remains who if anyone is capable and willing place the order.

Wait, I thought you wanted to be a distributor?

Right now we have half of the people from UK-EU and half in Canada-USA. We could have 2 buyers with 10g for each region.

I think buying 10g and splitting it amongst just 5-10 in the US-CAN is pretty reasonable, no?

Yes I can be a distributor. Meaning I would weigh, repackage and mail samples for the US and Canada but I cannot place the order because I am not part of a business.

[Reformed-Redan]

The PKR Inhibitor C16 is supposedly the most powerful memory enhancer. You won't see that any time soon. Next ampakines are the best bet a memory enhancers; though, good look finding a safe one.

http://www.scbt.com/...-inhibitor.html

Yeah, I'm still looking into it. After a tryout with PLR-8-53 might give C16 a tryout for a day or two (only downside is it has to be stored in a fridge at all times; but, the effective dose is insanely low. The admininstration method is not entirely known to me.)

0.5g? Won't the s&h cost be more than the price of the actual powder at 0.5g?

At only ~$20 per gram, I think 2 grams might be the minimum to make it worth it.

EDIT: That's not to say I'm not interested.. I'll take .5g but can't we do better?

It is just that we are better off going with a company that is for sure is legit. Than taking a risk with everyone money and getting ripped off. But if someone can get a better quote from a company that is US or EU based than great.

But the big question still remains who if anyone is capable and willing place the order.

Let's start collecting money at the .5g scale per person so everyone can at least get the compound. No need to increase the stakes up just yet.

Edited by redan, 21 March 2013 - 08:16 PM.

[peakplasma]

Yes I can be a distributor. Meaning I would weigh, repackage and mail samples for the US and Canada but I cannot place the order because I am not part of a business.

Oh well, I'm pretty sure we won't be able to find a business to help us to do this.

But a number of these companies don't care; its only states that to appear legitimate.

I'm willing to be the buyer but I'm probably not the best candidate (i'm in Canada away from my bank).

Let's start collecting money at the .5g scale per person so everyone can at least get the compound. No need to increase the stakes up just yet.

Can you start a Kickstarter? Alternatively, someone's PayPal to pool (I would offer mine but honestly, I'd rather not).

[Reformed-Redan]

Let's start collecting money at the .5g scale per person so everyone can at least get the compound. No need to increase the stakes up just yet.

Can you start a Kickstarter? Alternatively, someone's PayPal to pool (I would offer mine but honestly, I'd rather not).

I'm ok with paypal. Q do you want to recieve the funds?

[megatron]

Would anyone consider a group buy for dihexa as well?

[Reformed-Redan]

Would anyone consider a group buy for dihexa as well?

What are the benefits of dihexia? Increasing BDNF alone doesn't have nootropic effects. Only thing would be rapid antidepressant effects likely.

[Q did it!]

Yes I can be a distributor. Meaning I would weigh, repackage and mail samples for the US and Canada but I cannot place the order because I am not part of a business.

Oh well, I'm pretty sure we won't be able to find a business to help us to do this.

But a number of these companies don't care; its only states that to appear legitimate.

I'm willing to be the buyer but I'm probably not the best candidate (i'm in Canada away from my bank).

Let's start collecting money at the .5g scale per person so everyone can at least get the compound. No need to increase the stakes up just yet.

Can you start a Kickstarter? Alternatively, someone's PayPal to pool (I would offer mine but honestly, I'd rather not).

So we can probably place an order by phone than with whatever company we choose without being a business.

Let's start collecting money at the .5g scale per person so everyone can at least get the compound. No need to increase the stakes up just yet.

Can you start a Kickstarter? Alternatively, someone's PayPal to pool (I would offer mine but honestly, I'd rather not).

I'm ok with paypal. Q do you want to recieve the funds?

I am ok with PayPal too and receiving the funds. That is if we can place an order without going through a company. Which we will just have to call and find out.
We can talk to NovoChemy and probably have them split the 10g into two 5g packages, sending one to the US and the other to the receiver in the UE. Anyone willing to be the receiver in the EU?
I am willing to be the receivers/distributor for the US but we will still need a UK receiver/distributor.
With PayPal there will be some fees. If we go this route we will need a complete list of twenty persons unless someone(s) wants two shares. Also all the money would be transfer to one account. The money in the central account would go to paying for the 10g and the remainder broken up proportionally between the two distributors depending on how many preside on each side of the Atlantic. Also I could handle Major Legend’s sample.

Is everyone ok with http://www.novochemy...spx?pr_id=13581 as the supplier with 10g @ .5 grams a person?

$500(10g)+$60(shipping)=$560 than $560/10(persons)=$56.00 than add $10 for reshipping for a grand total of $65.00 per person for 0.5g. That is 100 doses at 5mg. May be a little higher if we have the 10g broken up but only by $3.00.

Edited by Q did it!, 21 March 2013 - 08:58 PM.