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[Q did it!]

We will need to find out the purity of NovoChemy's PRL before we even think proceeding with them.

Still open to other supplies and I have sent some inquires out today hoping to find a better price per gram.

Edited by Q did it!, 21 March 2013 - 09:01 PM.

[Reformed-Redan]

Before you order from novochemy, ask for quotes from these companies:
http://www.lookchem.com/Prl-8-53/

[spookytooth]

I thought there were more suppliers in the EU/US. Shouldn't we look into them first? There is no need to rush anything! 65$ seems expensive for 500mg.

Edited by spookytooth, 21 March 2013 - 09:02 PM.

[Q did it!]

Before you order from novochemy, ask for quotes from these companies:
http://www.lookchem.com/Prl-8-53/

Already checked with all of them and all are based in china except Ineos. Ineos replied with a @gmail.com and wanted the funds to be sent "to their newly founded headquarters in Cameroon".

China Peptides has it listed but they never replied to my inquire. But you can send them one and see if they take the bate. PandaChem has it listed too but also they also did not respond.

And sookytooth is right we need not rush this. I will continue to send inquires to US based companies.

Edited by Q did it!, 21 March 2013 - 09:14 PM.

[Q did it!]

I think that someone is possibly posing as Ineos on Lookchem. Below is the COA and GMP I was sent but they wanted $450.00 for 10g before shipping. It was just the idea of wiring money to Cameroon and the fact that they replied from a @gmail that scared me away.

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[Q did it!]

Here is the contact page for Ineos site http://www.ineos.com/Contact1/ . Most of the business on the page have more than one headquarter. Not completely sure which contact to send the inquiry to, did send Phenol a inquiry.

[Reformed-Redan]

I'm still getting e-mails about quotes for the compound. This one was interesting since they allow 50% prepayment and 50% on delivery.

Dear John,


Thanks for your inquiry and Hope everything goes well

I'm Judy, glad to quote for you. We dedicate to the R&D and production of more than 1,000 kinds of chemical products, including organic intermediates, medical intermediates, chemical intermediates, auxiliary chemicals and so on.
Price as follow, check it please

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  Product name: Benzoic acid, 3-(2-(methyl(phenylmethyl)amino)ethyl)-, methyl ester, hydrochloride CAS NO.: 51352-87-5

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  Purity: 99.0%

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  Package: pack as requested

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  Price: USD780/kg;

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  USD250 for 10g;

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  Payment: 50%T/T in advance and 50% irrevocable L/C at sight, according to quantity

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  Shipment: by EMS, DHL, TNT and so on.

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  Time of delivery: within 3-5 workdays

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me

Enthusiasm and look forward to your cooperation

Best regards

Judy

BIC CHEMICAL INDUSTRY CO., LTD
E-mail: Bic.sales1dep@gmail.com
MSN: Bic.sales1dep_Judy@live.com Skype: Bic.sales1dep_Judy

Dear John,


Thanks for your inquiry and Hope everything goes well

I'm Judy, glad to quote for you. We dedicate to the R&D and production of more than 1,000 kinds of chemical products, including organic intermediates, medical intermediates, chemical intermediates, auxiliary chemicals and so on.
Price as follow, check it please

• 
  

  Product name: Benzoic acid, 3-(2-(methyl(phenylmethyl)amino)ethyl)-, methyl ester, hydrochloride CAS NO.: 51352-87-5

• 
  

  Purity: 99.0%

• 
  

  Package: pack as requested

• 
  

  Price: USD780/kg;

• 
  

  USD250 for 10g;

• 
  

  Payment: 50%T/T in advance and 50% irrevocable L/C at sight, according to quantity

• 
  

  Shipment: by EMS, DHL, TNT and so on.

• 
  

  Time of delivery: within 3-5 workdays

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me

Enthusiasm and look forward to your cooperation

Best regards

Judy

BIC CHEMICAL INDUSTRY CO., LTD
E-mail: Bic.sales1dep@gmail.com
MSN: Bic.sales1dep_Judy@live.com Skype: Bic.sales1dep_Judy

[megatron]

Would anyone consider a group buy for dihexa as well?

What are the benefits of dihexia? Increasing BDNF alone doesn't have nootropic effects. Only thing would be rapid antidepressant effects likely.

Dihexa is supposed to form new synapses.

I also think that we should be able to get a way better deal than $65 for 0,5g.

Edited by Megatrone, 21 March 2013 - 10:04 PM.

[Reformed-Redan]

Would anyone consider a group buy for dihexa as well?

What are the benefits of dihexia? Increasing BDNF alone doesn't have nootropic effects. Only thing would be rapid antidepressant effects likely.

Dihexa is supposed to form new synapses.

I also think that we should be able to get a way better deal than $65 for 0,5g.

I agree. But, at least you have the confidence that you are getting the real deal. .5g isn't that small for 5mg doses. Sure you can try 10mg or 100mg; but, if it's as effective as 5mg then better use 5mg.

[Q did it!]

Would anyone consider a group buy for dihexa as well?

What are the benefits of dihexia? Increasing BDNF alone doesn't have nootropic effects. Only thing would be rapid antidepressant effects likely.

Dihexa is supposed to form new synapses.

I also think that we should be able to get a way better deal than $65 for 0,5g.

I agree. But, at least you have the confidence that you are getting the real deal. .5g isn't that small for 5mg doses. Sure you can try 10mg or 100mg; but, if it's as effective as 5mg then better use 5mg.

We could say 500mg to make it sound a bit more impressive.

I found this one company that had a good price and was US based, but for the life of me i cannot remember the name of. I am still trying to find it again.

[Reformed-Redan]

Would anyone consider a group buy for dihexa as well?

What are the benefits of dihexia? Increasing BDNF alone doesn't have nootropic effects. Only thing would be rapid antidepressant effects likely.

Dihexa is supposed to form new synapses.

I also think that we should be able to get a way better deal than $65 for 0,5g.

I agree. But, at least you have the confidence that you are getting the real deal. .5g isn't that small for 5mg doses. Sure you can try 10mg or 100mg; but, if it's as effective as 5mg then better use 5mg.

We could say 500mg to make it sound a bit more impressive.

I found this one company that had a good price and was US based, but for the life of me i cannot remember the name of. I am still trying to find it again.

Well, remember already! Lol. Just gotta wait now.

[Q did it!]

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Edited by Q did it!, 22 March 2013 - 02:31 AM.

[peakplasma]

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I need to know!

[waitwhatthe]

A half gram is fine with me.

[Q did it!]

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I need to know!

Posted a quote I received from a Chinese company. Thought better it and removed it seeing that we are not interested in Chinese suppliers and more so it looked like a scam anyway.

Edited by Q did it!, 22 March 2013 - 02:57 AM.

[hellbounddevildog]

Nothing solid yet on who is collecting the money, or who we're going with I take it. How will we get this tested on ordering?

I'll keep checking for updates. Very excited!

Edited by hellbounddevildog, 22 March 2013 - 06:20 AM.

[Reformed-Redan]

Nothing solid yet on who is collecting the money, or who we're going with I take it. How will we get this tested on ordering?

I'll keep checking for updates. Very excited!

We've agreed that we won't be ordering from China for sake of quality assurance and knowing that we are getting the product. So far Q is trying to look around for all possible companies that could synthesize this from the US/UK/EU. Q if you can't remember the US company you were talking about you can also try Canadian companies (I don't know many; but, their price might be competitive. Also, Polish companies will most likely provide competitive pricing with high quality standards. I haven't seen Googletarian in a while. Must have been satisfied with the Coluracetam synthesis he did for ScienceGuy.

[Major Legend]

Would anyone consider a group buy for dihexa as well?

What are the benefits of dihexia? Increasing BDNF alone doesn't have nootropic effects. Only thing would be rapid antidepressant effects likely.

Dihexa is supposed to form new synapses.

I also think that we should be able to get a way better deal than $65 for 0,5g.

My concern with Dihexa is mainly the massive increase in growth factor could in the long run increase risk for cancer, there is some research in this area for BDNF. My fear with cancer is that there are no symptoms until its really too late, cancer is hidden there is no way to tell if you have it or not, it starts at such a cellular level, it would even be hard to trace it back to Dihexa. Of course there is no evidence for this, but these are extremely experimental drugs we are talking about.

The effects of PLR provided the studies and the essays are not trolls seems to have a safer and more practical use as a nootropic, even then I think we should be wary as we are trying out an experimental drug with little research.

[mait]

Hello

Put me up for 0,5g-s as well. I am from Estonia, EU.

Edited by mait, 22 March 2013 - 03:20 PM.

[Q did it!]

Have been sending request but some just...(view pic below)

If we must we could talk to Anthony_Loera or Googletarian. Sent Googletarian a message awaiting a reply.

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[Reformed-Redan]

Ok why didn't I think about this before. I just looked at Isochroma-Reborn Racetam Price page. Most of the suppliers there are verified to be authenticy and deliver on what they promise. We could start contacting each of them and ask for a quote or if they can do a custom synthesis of this compound. Here's his page:
http://users4.jabry....etam Prices.htm

http://www.longecity...racetam-prices/

[peakplasma]

Does anyone have contact information for Dr. Hansl?

I would love to contact him to find out more and specifically ask him why research on PRL-8-53 didn't progress further.

[Q did it!]

Does anyone have contact information for Dr. Hansl?

I would love to contact him to find out more and specifically ask him why research on PRL-8-53 didn't progress further.

Sadlily Dr. Hansal is dead as of Nov of 2011. This was mentioned early on in the thread, but we could contact the lab where he worked or fellow coworkers.

[peakplasma]

Does anyone have contact information for Dr. Hansl?

I would love to contact him to find out more and specifically ask him why research on PRL-8-53 didn't progress further.

Sadlily Dr. Hansal is dead as of Nov of 2011. This was mentioned early on in the thread, but we could contact the lab where he worked or fellow coworkers.

How about the other one? Adele B. Hansl? Might that be his wife?

Phi Delta Kappan - December 1979 - Vol 61 - pages 264-265

Or perhaps Durk Pearson? I'm not a journalist but I would love to call these guys and write about my findings.

Edited by peakplasma, 22 March 2013 - 07:43 PM.

[Q did it!]

Does anyone have contact information for Dr. Hansl?

I would love to contact him to find out more and specifically ask him why research on PRL-8-53 didn't progress further.

Sadlily Dr. Hansal is dead as of Nov of 2011. This was mentioned early on in the thread, but we could contact the lab where he worked or fellow coworkers.

How about the other one? Adele B. Hansl? Might that be his wife?

Phi Delta Kappan - December 1979 - Vol 61 - pages 264-265

Or perhaps Durk Pearson? I'm not a journalist but I would love to call these guys and write about my findings.

Go ahead if you want to and tell us what you find. Hopefully some good news, yes!

[Reformed-Redan]

Man, that's unfortunate. Intresting stuff. Looks like plenty of other ppl have been seeking this compound:
http://www.vvchem.co...info-34358.html

[Izan]

Does anyone have contact information for Dr. Hansl?

I would love to contact him to find out more and specifically ask him why research on PRL-8-53 didn't progress further.

Sadlily Dr. Hansal is dead as of Nov of 2011. This was mentioned early on in the thread, but we could contact the lab where he worked or fellow coworkers.

correct, i said this on page one. did some research and i found out the poor fellow died just last year.

i have a uploaded a text (pdf file) for you guys with additional information.  fulltext.pdf   363.49KB   36 downloads

Edited by izan82, 22 March 2013 - 09:18 PM.

[Izan]

search for Berverley T. Mead, his co worker.

[hellbounddevildog]

This would be nice to possibly provide some more validity to everything. Maybe get some more insight on why the research was stopped as well.

[Reformed-Redan]

Before this topic jumps to weird conclusions that this compound was covered up by the government or caused cancer or something like that... there was no sense to push this drug. It had little therapeutic value from what I understand. Only recently has renewed interest shown that it can be beneficial to persons with dementia and alzheimers.