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[Mr. Pink]

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

[Q did it!]

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

They both have a Lead Time meaning that they do not start making the chemical tell after you place the order.

With 25 participants at $80 each we will have $2000. $1380 for the 30g and the rest for shipping and testing the chemical with a third party (cost anywhere from $100-$300) which I can handle. With the Sunshine we sould not have money left over for third party testing but with NovoChemy. So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

[Reformed-Redan]

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

What makes you so sure you'll get the read deal? You might sink $1600 for some calcium powder.

[Cuttlefish33]

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

They both have a Lead Time meaning that they do not start making the chemical tell after you place the order.

With 25 participants at $80 each we will have $2000. $1380 for the 30g and the rest for shipping and testing the chemical with a third party (cost anywhere from $100-$300) which I can handle. With the Sunshine we sould not have money left over for third party testing but with NovoChemy. So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

I'm fine with 1.25 grams. What's the recommended dosage again?

[Reformed-Redan]

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

They both have a Lead Time meaning that they do not start making the chemical tell after you place the order.

With 25 participants at $80 each we will have $2000. $1380 for the 30g and the rest for shipping and testing the chemical with a third party (cost anywhere from $100-$300) which I can handle. With the Sunshine we sould not have money left over for third party testing but with NovoChemy. So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

I'm fine with 1.25 grams. What's the recommended dosage again?

The article says 5mg.

[Cuttlefish33]

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

They both have a Lead Time meaning that they do not start making the chemical tell after you place the order.

With 25 participants at $80 each we will have $2000. $1380 for the 30g and the rest for shipping and testing the chemical with a third party (cost anywhere from $100-$300) which I can handle. With the Sunshine we sould not have money left over for third party testing but with NovoChemy. So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

I'm fine with 1.25 grams. What's the recommended dosage again?

The article says 5mg.

Lawl, 5 mg. We are each getting 1.25 g, which is 250 doses, sounds like plenty to me.

[Mr. Pink]

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

They both have a Lead Time meaning that they do not start making the chemical tell after you place the order.

With 25 participants at $80 each we will have $2000. $1380 for the 30g and the rest for shipping and testing the chemical with a third party (cost anywhere from $100-$300) which I can handle. With the Sunshine we sould not have money left over for third party testing but with NovoChemy. So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

from info posted, it didn't sound like it is just "lead time" with novochemy. it sounded like they sell it normally, they were out of stock, no info about when it will be in stock (back-ordered). if you guys have contacted them more recently and have fresh info, then i'm wrong.

as to having it tested, i thought someone here offered to test it for free.

I'd rather have 100g than 30g for the same money. also, no one knows when novochemy will have the compound. the 100g seems like a sure thing

What makes you so sure you'll get the read deal? You might sink $1600 for some calcium powder.

true, but i'm not sure that one is to be more trusted than the other. in any case, we can get it tested for free, right?

[Mr. Pink]

Lawl, 5 mg. We are each getting 1.25 g, which is 250 doses, sounds like plenty to me.

for me the issue isn't weather it's plenty for me personally. i'd like to have enough to sell part of it to recoup some of the cost, and with 4g i'd still have enough left to last the rest of my academic career. also what if the dose isn't 5mg? what if there's tolerance, what if 5mg isn't enough?

in any case, just wanted to voice my opinion. either way, my check's in the mail and l'll go along with whatever we decide as a group.

[hadora]

what is the website of sunshine ?

[HenryHH]

Since it looks like participants will be receiving 1.25 g instead of 4, would anyone still be willing to split their dose? That would be 125 doses (5 mg each) for both individuals...

[megatron]

Well, potency almost always seems to overrated. The 5mg probably turns out to be a joke, and we most likely will end up with 10mg-20mg doses (+30mg a day) and that 1,25g is not going to last very long then...

Edited by Megatrone, 08 April 2013 - 09:06 AM.

[Hebbeh]

The problem I see is measuring 5mg. That is a minuscule dose. Would you be able to dissolve say 50mg in 50ml of water or alcohol and dose 5ml solution?

Check is in the mail.

[krsna]

The problem I see is measuring 5mg. That is a minuscule dose. Would you be able to dissolve say 50mg in 50ml of water or alcohol and dose 5ml solution?

Check is in the mail.

microscale? they're only like $12..

[Hebbeh]

The scale I have, as most scales I've seen, measure to 0.01 grams....or to the nearest 10mg.

[krsna]

http://www.ebay.ca/i...=1#ht_500wt_969

would something like that work? just type in 'gemini scale' on ebay or amazon or something

[Hebbeh]

Good find. Thanks. Looks like I'm going to have to upgrade.

[sunshinefrost]

So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

Good !! so we are set ? when will the order be placed ? I need my superhuman memory !!

[Q did it!]

So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

Good !! so we are set ? when will the order be placed ? I need my superhuman memory !!

Will place the order as soon as I have the funds. So everyone can start to mail and wire funds now that we are decided. Chase QuickPay will work also.

[sparkk51]

This is really tricky... It seems the Sunshine deal is a massive bargain in comparison to Novochemy and all we have with Novochemy is a positive report from a single longecity user in on the buy. Obviously, we have nothing on Sunshine, but the amount were getting for the same cost from Novo is sooooo much less. Yes, I would be very dissapointed to receive a fake product, but imagine how much were missing out on if we continuosly buy from Novochemy without ever verifying whether the other is legitimate.

Also, If what Megatrone said about the optimal dosage turns out being true, I'll be very sad. I want to leave the choice with you guys though.

Edited by sparkk51, 08 April 2013 - 05:36 PM.

[rikelme]

This is really tricky... It seems the Sunshine deal is a massive bargain in comparison to Novochemy and all we have with Novochemy is a positive report from a single longecity user in on the buy. Obviously, we have nothing on Sunshine, but the amount were getting for the same cost from Novo is sooooo much less. Yes, I would be very dissapointed to receive a fake product, but imagine how much were missing out on if we continuosly buy from Novochemy without ever verifying whether the other is legitimate.

Also, If what Megatrone said about the optimal dosage turns out being true, I'll be very sad. I want to leave the choice with you guys though.

We'll, even the ~1g amount will be enough to find out if the compound really works or not. Once we are sure that it is working for (majority) of us, we can always do another group buy, picking a different, cheaper, supplier.

Q! did it,

Do any of these suppliers offer any kind of money back guarantee, anyway?

[Reformed-Redan]

This is really tricky... It seems the Sunshine deal is a massive bargain in comparison to Novochemy and all we have with Novochemy is a positive report from a single longecity user in on the buy. Obviously, we have nothing on Sunshine, but the amount were getting for the same cost from Novo is sooooo much less. Yes, I would be very dissapointed to receive a fake product, but imagine how much were missing out on if we continuosly buy from Novochemy without ever verifying whether the other is legitimate.

Also, If what Megatrone said about the optimal dosage turns out being true, I'll be very sad. I want to leave the choice with you guys though.

I don't get it. I mean we haven't even tested the compound yet. For all I know it can be a dud. So, I want to make sure I get what I'm ordering so if it is a dud I won't have to return to it anymore.

[Reformed-Redan]

http://www.tcichemicals.com/en/us/

Can see if they'd synth PRL-8-53

[Q did it!]

http://www.tcichemicals.com/en/us/

Can see if they'd synth PRL-8-53

Sent. But you guys we are getting nowhere right now. We need to get things moving again. Just about any US company wont come under 2k for any amount.

[ScienceGuy]

...So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

Hats off to Q for all his hard work on this!

I'm going to be extremely interested in seeing how this pans out... there's no way I'd miss out on trying this stuff!

Well, potency almost always seems to overrated. The 5mg probably turns out to be a joke, and we most likely will end up with 10mg-20mg doses (+30mg a day) and that 1,25g is not going to last very long then...

I think you have a valid point, however this should still be sufficient to establish how one responds to the compound, at least in the short-to-medium term; and certainly enough to decide whether further trialling is warranted

Edited by ScienceGuy, 08 April 2013 - 06:03 PM.

[Izan]

...So my mind is deiceded we will go with NovoChemy: 1.25g per participant at $80USD, we will have the chemical tested and one 10g package will be sent to a UK/EU resident who will redistribute and I will handle North America to other.

Hats off to Q for all his hard work on this!

I'm going to be extremely interested in seeing how this pans out... there's no way I'd miss out on trying this stuff!

Well, potency almost always seems to overrated. The 5mg probably turns out to be a joke, and we most likely will end up with 10mg-20mg doses (+30mg a day) and that 1,25g is not going to last very long then...

I think you have a valid point, however this should still be sufficient to establish how one responds to the compound, at least in the short-to-medium term; and certainly enough to decide whether further trialling is warranted

maybe this guy can be the distributor in europe for us.?he did it before with all the coluracetam free samples.

[Colli]

Q, I've sent you a PM - I haven't received my refund as PayPal are saying the funds didn't clear your account. Please respond ASAP. Thanks.

[Q did it!]

ScianceGuy has already agreed to be the reciver and redistrubuter for the EU and UK. sent from phone

ScianceGuy has already agreed to be the reciver and redistrubuter for the EU and UK. sent from phone

[Colli]

Thanks to Q for sorting the PayPal situation out - glad to still be part of the group buy.

[Elus]

I also suggest you guys come up with a way of objectively testing and documenting the effects of this compound. Perhaps quantifiedmind.com scores, or dual-n-back scores.

You guys are putting a lot of work into this, and it would be great to have measurable, objective criteria by which to judge the effects of the compound.

[HenryHH]

Lawl, 5 mg. We are each getting 1.25 g, which is 250 doses, sounds like plenty to me.

for me the issue isn't weather it's plenty for me personally. i'd like to have enough to sell part of it to recoup some of the cost, and with 4g i'd still have enough left to last the rest of my academic career. also what if the dose isn't 5mg? what if there's tolerance, what if 5mg isn't enough?

in any case, just wanted to voice my opinion. either way, my check's in the mail and l'll go along with whatever we decide as a group.

Mr. Pink -- would you be interested in splitting your 1.5g dose?