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[Izan]

We are at a bit of a stand still tell ScienceGuy is back online. Just want to let you guys know that T&W is likely going to be making PRL for a lab (NEWSTARNEWTROPIC or LIFTMODE)

Hi [my name],

Could you please tell me the situation of your order?
One of my key account in nootropic business is asking for this item, if you need it for sure, I can try to combine the order with his.
Thus, the cost could be lower.

Please advise.

Also, are you in business of other nootropics? We are very good at those high value staff, such as
Phenylpiracetam, Coluracetam, Sunifiram,Unifiram.
Please advise.

Thanks,
Mark

I did receive a quote of 100g for $3500 and they are capable of shipping out all individual samples to participants (shipping & packaging cost would be lower not to mention receiving samples sooner)

thank you so much! proceed with t&w please, no need to wait any longer.

[megatron]

Yea, T & W apparently seem legit. I would not want it being shipped directly to me from China, because one can only import pharmaceutical products to Norway from within the EU. So, the original price was $2000 for 30g from Novochemy, and T&W offered 100g for $3500. Do you want each participant to contribute with a little more money or are you getting some more people? Anyhow, the price per gram has dropped from $66,7 to $35 which is great!

Edited by Megatrone, 03 July 2013 - 03:46 PM.

[3AlarmLampscooter]

If there are any new slots, I'd love to get in on the buy.

[MasterHerb]

If you need more people I'm down.

[Perception-Is-Reality]

same

[Sunwind]

$35 for 1g of PLR 8-147? count me in if there's still someone organizing the group-buy(?) who do I PM?

Edited by Sunwind, 03 July 2013 - 11:11 PM.

[gnappi]

Don't forget to include me in the group!!!

[Q did it!]

Just want to let you guys know that we are still currently going with ScienceGuy's supplier. I just put the T&W information out there. This is not to say they are not an option. It all depends on ScienceGuy's supplier and when I hear more. If I do not hear any word from ScienceGuys or his supplier in a few days we will be made to go with T&W or just cancel the group buy and send back all the funds.

Either way we will soon/should have a nootropic vender (my guess MODELIFT) with PRL-8-53. I am still very much wanting to get our own to be on the safe side that is if everyone else is still on board with it.

Just to make it clear that the priority here is on ScienceGuy's supplier as our source for PRL-8-53.

[lostfalco]

Thanks for the update Q. Really appreciate your patience.

I agree with your list. ScienceGuy first. If not, then T&W (add more people if we need to). If not, then consider other options (other vendor, refund, etc.).

[67limitless13]

Can anyone give a complete update as to whats going on via

"Funding
By Paypal
Supplier
Still open for discussion, quantity will be between 10-100g (administered daily dosage is 5mg in study).
Also need to verify if supplier is not a rip-off.
Distributors
Commited Volunteers: Noone yet
Possible Volunteers: Q did it! (US), Gerhard van Dieren (EU)

I'm also tempted to add ScienceGuy to the list of possible volunteers, but I haven't seen his take on this project yet.

Price (still open for discussion)
Current estimation on a 100 gram buy-in, with about 25% of the funds being donated to Longecity.
$20 x (Gram) + 7$ Shipping Fee = Price
Participants (please mention the quantity)"

I've read through about a dozen pages, please don't make me read 'em all lol

Edited by 67limitless13, 04 July 2013 - 02:10 AM.

[Mr. Pink]

Just want to let you guys know that we are still currently going with ScienceGuy's supplier. I just put the T&W information out there. This is not to say they are not an option. It all depends on ScienceGuy's supplier and when I hear more. If I do not hear any word from ScienceGuys or his supplier in a few days we will be made to go with T&W or just cancel the group buy and send back all the funds.

Either way we will soon/should have a nootropic vender (my guess MODELIFT) with PRL-8-53. I am still very much wanting to get our own to be on the safe side that is if everyone else is still on board with it.

Just to make it clear that the priority here is on ScienceGuy's supplier as our source for PRL-8-53.

thanks for the update, it's been a while

[Nattzor]

Is there no update on the PRL-8-53 someone already bought? Was it bunk or real?

[megatron]

Just want to let you guys know that we are still currently going with ScienceGuy's supplier. I just put the T&W information out there. This is not to say they are not an option. It all depends on ScienceGuy's supplier and when I hear more. If I do not hear any word from ScienceGuys or his supplier in a few days we will be made to go with T&W or just cancel the group buy and send back all the funds.

Either way we will soon/should have a nootropic vender (my guess MODELIFT) with PRL-8-53. I am still very much wanting to get our own to be on the safe side that is if everyone else is still on board with it.

Just to make it clear that the priority here is on ScienceGuy's supplier as our source for PRL-8-53.

I think we should go with T&W then, if it doesn't work out with the poles. For me, cancelling this group-buy really isn't an option.

[Izan]

liftmode will be carrying this compound very soon, for a much better price. is it still necessary to carry on with this project?

[megatron]

If they can give a better price it would be great. I hope they have it soon.

[Izan]

i heared pices from them between 35-40 dollars for 2,5 grams. so yes, SIGNIFICANTLY better than we have now.

[unregistered_user]

liftmode will be carrying this compound very soon, for a much better price. is it still necessary to carry on with this project?

Where are you getting this information from? Is this conjecture?

[Nattzor]

i heared pices from them between 35-40 dollars for 2,5 grams. so yes, SIGNIFICANTLY better than we have now.

Where did you get that number from? I'm guessing they might be able to go down to 2.5-3k per 100g instead of 3.5k per 100g if they order a few hundred gram to start with. But that would still just be 25-30 USD per gram, far from your 14-16 USD per gram. And that is ofc no profit, they will ofc want profit.

[Q did it!]

OK the quote for PRL-8-53 from ScienceGuys supplier is in $4200 for 100g shipping to ScienceGuys address included. So I am thinking $4200/80=52.5 shares and that would be 1.9231g per participant with someone taking the extra 0.5g for $40 or a whole nother participant. We would handle shipping costs once synthesis is done. All shipping will be calculated and an average price will be made from all shipping cost. We will use PAYITSQUARE to collect all funds.

Any suggestions or comments? Please speak up.

[sunshinefrost]

Cool !
What was our previous quantity ? Just asking because i'm splitting with peakplasma.

Ok nevermind, it was 2,5g. Hmm i wonder if 1,9 will be enough for 2 ...

Edited by sunshinefrost, 06 July 2013 - 07:11 PM.

[MasterHerb]

OK the quote for PRL-8-53 from ScienceGuys supplier is in $4200 for 100g shipping to ScienceGuys address included. So I am thinking $4200/80=52.5 shares and that would be 1.9231g per participant with someone taking the extra 0.5g for $40 or a whole nother participant. We would handle shipping costs once synthesis is done. All shipping will be calculated and an average price will be made from all shipping cost. We will use PAYITSQUARE to collect all funds.

Any suggestions or comments? Please speak up.

My money is ready if you need another participant.

[megatron]

For that price I'd rather go with T&W.

[Izan]

if anyone wants to take my place in the groupbuy, be my guest lads and send me a pm.

Edited by izan82, 06 July 2013 - 08:08 PM.

[extiron]

Ill take izan82 place then

[Reformed-Redan]

You guys need to chill out. Group buys for novel compounds just appeared around 2 months ago after we (Q did it! and I) really pushed for getting this compound along with the OP, which has been missing. If you want to get these yourself at your own convenience and with all the respect in the world, then go ahead.

For the matter, I've been concurrently at college and organizing two group buys BPAP and ISRIB with Pitolisant on the horizon. All you guys have to do is just wait for the compound; but, seems like that is too much to ask for. Mehh.

Edited by yadayada, 06 July 2013 - 07:43 PM.

[MasterHerb]

q did it, you did not respond to my PM, which i find quite disrespectful. i do not want to be part of this group buy anymore. if anyone wants to take my place, be my guest. thank you

I will gladly take his place, and I am in no rush

[Izan]

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Edited by izan82, 06 July 2013 - 08:08 PM.

[Nattzor]

you are partially right. isrib, bpap and pitolisant are really, really hard to get, so props to you to get things started in this regard. but a legit company like liftmode will be carrying prl 8-53 within the next 8 weeks for a price which will be significantly lower than the european source q did it is talking about and which will take them at least two months to produce. it's really not worth it anymore to proceed with this group buy altogether to be honest. but that's just my opinion. we started collecting funds around april 15th, we're almost three months underway and things are still the same.

I'm really amazed how you people know the prices and the time span. AFAIK, both LM and NSN has promised compounds "Next week, next month" and still not delivered. Where do you get the 8 weeks from (and the price)?

[Izan]

you are partially right. isrib, bpap and pitolisant are really, really hard to get, so props to you to get things started in this regard. but a legit company like liftmode will be carrying prl 8-53 within the next 8 weeks for a price which will be significantly lower than the european source q did it is talking about and which will take them at least two months to produce. it's really not worth it anymore to proceed with this group buy altogether to be honest. but that's just my opinion. we started collecting funds around april 15th, we're almost three months underway and things are still the same.

I'm really amazed how you people know the prices and the time span. AFAIK, both LM and NSN has promised compounds "Next week, next month" and still not delivered. Where do you get the 8 weeks from (and the price)?

my close friend saw it being mentioned on their facebook page. but it's pretty cool that they are willing to bring this to the market.

[formergenius]

Well I haven't gone through the entire 36 pages here, but most of the discussion seems to be about acquiring the stuff, rather than about the stuff itself (PRL-8-53 right?).

It's mechanism is described as "making the brain more responsive to acetylcholine". So what's that? A positive allosteric modulator? Sounds a bit too vague to me, but maybe I missed some stuff by not skimming through every page. Anyone have some more info on the exact MOA etc.? Wonder what would happen if you were to combine this with Coluracetam? Total ACh transmission overload? Or super-awesome synergy? I'm eager to hear of any visual effects, seeing as ACh seems to be significantly involved in cortical visual functioning. That is of course, once the feedback starts streaming in. Info on visual effects seems to be contradicting for now.

My bad if this comes across as wanting to be spoon-fed here (not my intentions), but information about the actual substance seems rather.. absent.