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[ambivalent]

The difference is stark; perhaps, though, contrast more evenly by taking another photo in less favourable light.

[pone11]

 

 

 

The lighting is too different between these photos, and honestly I cannot tell the difference.

 

An experiment like this is ideally done with a 5 megapixel dental camera, which can take very close up macro photos of surfaces with amazing high resolution.   Use the same camera and same lighting for both photos, and then we will be able to see fine details of graying on each hair.

 

A good search criteria for these on eBay would be:  

               dental camera (5,5.0) mp

 

 

That's an 8mp cell phone camera

 

And i can't after the fact do it. -- I pulled a pic that showed my dark beard

 

I have one other, but it was when I was tanning daily 

 

Longecity actually kills the resolution, not my camera -- the native pics are about 1MB -- longecity upload dropped them to 90kb

 

 

A good trick for importing images might be to open a tumblr account, create a Photo post that you save as a "draft" and then get the URLs to the images from that.

 

Here is what a good high resolution photo of hair looks like:

http://s3.amazonaws....jan_20_2011.jpg

 

When I open up your two images I see what look like about equal amounts of grey hair in both, but the focus is off and maybe I am just not observant of minor differences that you see immediately.

Edited by pone11, 15 January 2015 - 11:58 PM.

[niner]

Here is what a good high resolution photo of hair looks like:

http://s3.amazonaws....jan_20_2011.jpg

 

Ok, I gotta ask... What the heck is that?  What's that white stuff?

[cani!]

 

 

 

 

Things are happening to my body since I have started taking the dosages I take that I cannot believe.

 

My beard that had turned a dull brown with salt "gray" sprinkled through by 40, is now coming in with the color it had in my 20's an auburn with gold highlights.

 

Even the blue in the iris of my eye has started to return to the more vibrant blue of my youth instead of the greyish blue it had become.

 

This stuff is unbelievable.

 

C60OO

 

 

Pics?  This should be a lot easier to show side-by-side than hair regrowth on your head.

 

Left was taken today

 

Right was taken Sept 2014 

 

Those are the best I could find with resolution -- yes there was grey in the Sept pic

 

If you hover over the pic it actually shows the date and timestamp from my phone camera

 

 

The lighting is too different between these photos, and honestly I cannot tell the difference.

 

An experiment like this is ideally done with a 5 megapixel dental camera, which can take very close up macro photos of surfaces with amazing high resolution.   Use the same camera and same lighting for both photos, and then we will be able to see fine details of graying on each hair.

 

A good search criteria for these on eBay would be:  

               dental camera (5,5.0) mp

 

 

 

I'm probably gonna get downvoted for this but dude, Sensei is providing good data and no one gives a damn about the camera is using. He put in a lot of effort to provide pictures and log his results for the benefit of the community and the only thing you have to say is "mmm, wrong camera, I can't tell anything". Who cares about what you think? Who do you think you are anyways? You're the type of person that pisses people off and make Longecity look like a snobish community and discouraging people from sharing results.

 

So yeah, go f**** yourself!

[pone11]

 

Here is what a good high resolution photo of hair looks like:

http://s3.amazonaws....jan_20_2011.jpg

 

Ok, I gotta ask... What the heck is that?  What's that white stuff?

 

 

That is some random photo I took from a Google search.  I have no idea who it is or what it is.  The point is I can see the individual hairs down to the root in very precise focus and in very high resolution.

[sensei]

 

Here is what a good high resolution photo of hair looks like:

http://s3.amazonaws....jan_20_2011.jpg

 

Ok, I gotta ask... What the heck is that?  What's that white stuff?

 

 

 

I think the white stuff is her scalp -- the pinkinsh stuff looks like squamous cell not a mole like the picture says

 

http://images.medici...ens-disease.jpg

[pone11]

 

I'm probably gonna get downvoted for this but dude, Sensei is providing good data and no one gives a damn about the camera is using. He put in a lot of effort to provide pictures and log his results for the benefit of the community and the only thing you have to say is "mmm, wrong camera, I can't tell anything". Who cares about what you think? Who do you think you are anyways? You're the type of person that pisses people off and make Longecity look like a snobish community and discouraging people from sharing results.

 

So yeah, go f**** yourself!

 

 

I am sorry to upset you.  

 

It is not the end of the world if some people can see a difference in those images and others cannot?   Why is that worth being upset about?

 

If I hold back and do not say that I cannot see a big difference between these photos, how does that make Longecity a better site?  When people do not share the same opinions about some fact, they should not say it?   Maybe help me to say it in a way that you would find more polite?

 

People call me out on my facts all the time.   I not only do not get upset, but I love that they do this.  Discussing controversial science requires a thick skin, and I guess I have that.  

 

I never want to be intentionally rude, and I'm happy to take constructive advice on how to not be rude.

[cani!]

Yeah, sorry for being rude and unfriendly. I don't know, something about suggesting to someone doing a case study to buy a new camera seemed rather douchey but my attitude was very wrong so I'm sorry too.

 

 

[pone11]

Yeah, sorry for being rude and unfriendly. I don't know, something about suggesting to someone doing a case study to buy a new camera seemed rather douchey but my attitude was very wrong so I'm sorry too.

 

I do see how I might have seemed demanding, but really all I was doing was trying to show people a type of handheld camera that is custom designed to take very high resolution images of skin surfaces.  It's perfect for before-and-after photos on beards, hair, skin spots, etc.   I understand he cannot go back in time.

 

My dentist uses one of these, and wow you do not know what is in your mouth until one of these snaps a photo.  It's very useful for looking in your own or someone else's mouth.

[caliope]

Just thought I would throw in my two cents here since everyone is letting it all hang out. I don't see why we can't mention low res problems if they are an issue. But of course any pictures are better than none. A better camera is always a good thing to have but I wouldn't get one just to post on this site. I suggest we all take a picture of ourselves now, with whatever camera we have, so we will have it for comparison in the future.

 

I think the bottom line here is that at higher dosages we are noticing effects that aren't apparent at the lower dosages. It seems up to 5 mg we see things like improved energy and endurance, especially right after taking it. At dosages closer to 15 mg, we notice things like more hair growth. Does this jive with everyone's experiences?

 

My theory is that improved microcirculation of the skin is causing the hair to regrow at the higher dosages. I notice that my face is flushed for a day or so after I take it. Antioxidant activity could be causing the hair to change back to its original color. 

 

As far as the C60 dust causing increased toxicity, there is a simple solution - don't breathe the dust! I think we have been over this before. Of course we wouldn't mix C60 dust with toxic fumes - we aren't idiots. Who comes up with these bizarre research ideas? Just to be clear, we are taking it orally and sometimes topically. Perhaps though it could mix with things after we swallow it? In that case should it always be taken on an empty stomach?

[resting]

For my duplication of this experiment. Which is on going. I have been taking high quality images and also have almost daily for the last 4 years as documenting the decline (or not).

28 in 14 months prior to 29th Dec 2014.   From 30th Dec 2014 ever other day, 9 so far, last dose 15th Jan. 15 more to go.

Nothing much to report so far but will be interesting to compare when completed.

 

[sensei]

For my duplication of this experiment. Which is on going. I have been taking high quality images and also have almost daily for the last 4 years as documenting the decline (or not).

28 in 14 months prior to 29th Dec 2014.   From 30th Dec 2014 ever other day, 9 so far, last dose 15th Jan. 15 more to go.

Nothing much to report so far but will be interesting to compare when completed.

 

what is the dose you are taking?

[niner]

As far as the C60 dust causing increased toxicity, there is a simple solution - don't breathe the dust! I think we have been over this before. Of course we wouldn't mix C60 dust with toxic fumes - we aren't idiots. Who comes up with these bizarre research ideas? Just to be clear, we are taking it orally and sometimes topically. Perhaps though it could mix with things after we swallow it? In that case should it always be taken on an empty stomach?

 

It doesn't matter how or when you take c60oo.  Those toxicities are only seen with aggregates, but c60oo is a molecular species.  It will not aggregate, outside of the body or inside.

[sensei]

 

 

It doesn't matter how or when you take c60oo.  Those toxicities are only seen with aggregates, but c60oo is a molecular species.  It will not aggregate, outside of the body or inside.

 

 

Exactly, or the oil in the Baati study would have had big chunky C60 aggregates after sitting in storage for months/years

[resting]

 

For my duplication of this experiment. Which is on going. I have been taking high quality images and also have almost daily for the last 4 years as documenting the decline (or not).

28 in 14 months prior to 29th Dec 2014.   From 30th Dec 2014 ever other day, 9 so far, last dose 15th Jan. 15 more to go.

Nothing much to report so far but will be interesting to compare when completed.

 

what is the dose you are taking?

 

 

Exactly the same as you. One bottle. Buckminsterfullerene C60 99.95%. 45 mg in 50 ml olive oil. Always the morning before food. Washed down with some water (for obvious reasons). Followed by a Coffee.  Followed 20 minutes later by Break fast.

[sensei]

 

 

For my duplication of this experiment. Which is on going. I have been taking high quality images and also have almost daily for the last 4 years as documenting the decline (or not).

28 in 14 months prior to 29th Dec 2014.   From 30th Dec 2014 ever other day, 9 so far, last dose 15th Jan. 15 more to go.

Nothing much to report so far but will be interesting to compare when completed.

 

what is the dose you are taking?

 

 

Exactly the same as you. One bottle. Buckminsterfullerene C60 99.95%. 45 mg in 50 ml olive oil. Always the morning before food. Washed down with some water (for obvious reasons). Followed by a Coffee.  Followed 20 minutes later by Break fast.

 

Daily or every other.

 

FYI -- I just ordered 5 grams of 99.95% C60, so I will be making my own.

 

I have been taking 45mg every other day when I have a supply (total of 54 bottles since May 2014).

 

However, I plan to up that to 45mg daily.

 

I also plan to apply topically to skin to test rejuvenating effects as well.

[resting]

 

 

 

For my duplication of this experiment. Which is on going. I have been taking high quality images and also have almost daily for the last 4 years as documenting the decline (or not).

28 in 14 months prior to 29th Dec 2014.   From 30th Dec 2014 ever other day, 9 so far, last dose 15th Jan. 15 more to go.

Nothing much to report so far but will be interesting to compare when completed.

 

what is the dose you are taking?

 

 

Exactly the same as you. One bottle. Buckminsterfullerene C60 99.95%. 45 mg in 50 ml olive oil. Always the morning before food. Washed down with some water (for obvious reasons). Followed by a Coffee.  Followed 20 minutes later by Break fast.

 

Daily or every other.

 

FYI -- I just ordered 5 grams of 99.95% C60, so I will be making my own.

 

I have been taking 45mg every other day when I have a supply (total of 54 bottles since May 2014).

 

However, I plan to up that to 45mg daily.

 

I also plan to apply topically to skin to test rejuvenating effects as well.

 

 

I have not been using dermarolling with the little left but I have applied it to the scalp. Similar hair covering as you. When are you going to shift to daily.  To continue I will need to purchase from the same supplier and make it in the same way you are. (Same oil and same method)

[sensei]

 

 

I have not been using dermarolling with the little left but I have applied it to the scalp. Similar hair covering as you. When are you going to shift to daily.  To continue I will need to purchase from the same supplier and make it in the same way you are. (Same oil and same method)

 

 

Ses research is the C60 vendor -- 99.95% pure

 

I will probably buy an artisan olive oil from a local specialty shop -- I want a lighter oil --  I  want to be able to see the magenta color easily. Apparently the darker colored olive oil leads to a brownish C60OO.

 

I have not dermarolled since the report on my log.  And topical application is still intermittent.

 

To be honest, about the hair regrowth I usually keep it so closely clippered that it does not matter -- although it would be great if it continues.

 

The re-coloration of my beard, and loss of gray from head, beard, chest, and crotch however is something that points to a rejuvenating effect.

 

I am now taking a tincture of astragalus equivalent to 20 grams root approximately 2-3 times per week, as well as goji.

[resting]

 

 

 

I have not been using dermarolling with the little left but I have applied it to the scalp. Similar hair covering as you. When are you going to shift to daily.  To continue I will need to purchase from the same supplier and make it in the same way you are. (Same oil and same method)

 

 

Ses research is the C60 vendor -- 99.95% pure

 

I will probably buy an artisan olive oil from a local specialty shop -- I want a lighter oil --  I  want to be able to see the magenta color easily. Apparently the darker colored olive oil leads to a brownish C60OO.

 

I have not dermarolled since the report on my log.  And topical application is still intermittent.

 

To be honest, about the hair regrowth I usually keep it so closely clippered that it does not matter -- although it would be great if it continues.

 

The re-coloration of my beard, and loss of gray from head, beard, chest, and crotch however is something that points to a rejuvenating effect.

 

I am now taking a tincture of astragalus equivalent to 20 grams root approximately 2-3 times per week, as well as goji.

 

 

Do you have hair that is half gray? I am looking for black growth from the root on a gray hair. Will supply photo if and when this starts to happen. I would hope by month end that there will be evidence of this.
 

[sensei]

 

 

 

Do you have hair that is half gray? I am looking for black growth from the root on a gray hair. Will supply photo if and when this starts to happen. I would hope by month end that there will be evidence of this.
 

 

 

Shave your head -- then you can definitely tell if new growth is dark.

 

That's what I do.

 

And no, I don't have gray in my hair anymore

Edited by sensei, 17 January 2015 - 12:01 AM.

[resting]

 

 

 

 

Do you have hair that is half gray? I am looking for black growth from the root on a gray hair. Will supply photo if and when this starts to happen. I would hope by month end that there will be evidence of this.
 

 

 

Shave your head -- then you can definitely tell if new growth is dark.

 

That's what I do.

 

And no, I don't have gray in my hair anymore

 

 

Not your head but elsewhere. Unless you are saying you are shaving there as well? No gray at all? From what % of Gray on the rest of your body to now?

Edited by resting, 17 January 2015 - 12:31 AM.

[sensei]

 

 

 

Not your head but elsewhere. Unless you are saying you are shaving there as well? No gray at all? From what % of Gray on the rest of your body to now?

 

 

Yes I shave my chest and other areas.

 

Chest still has some gray but much less.

 

Crotch virtually all gray has disappeared.

[StevesPetRat]

The lighting is too different between these photos, and honestly I cannot tell the difference.
 
An experiment like this is ideally done with a 5 megapixel dental camera, which can take very close up macro photos of surfaces with amazing high resolution.   Use the same camera and same lighting for both photos, and then we will be able to see fine details of graying on each hair.
 
A good search criteria for these on eBay would be:  
               dental camera (5,5.0) mp

 
That's an 8mp cell phone camera
 
And i can't after the fact do it. -- I pulled a pic that showed my dark beard
 
I have one other, but it was when I was tanning daily 
 
Longecity actually kills the resolution, not my camera -- the native pics are about 1MB -- longecity upload dropped them to 90kb

I drank my entire 1 L / 600 mg bottle of homemade C60oo today and I can see both images in full megapixel resolution. I can also see the rest of sensei's face. And his past and future.

[sensei]

 

I drank my entire 1 L / 600 mg bottle of homemade C60oo today and I can see both images in full megapixel resolution. I can also see the rest of sensei's face. And his past and future.

 

 

Was that before or after you were able to get off the crapper?

 

ROTFLMAO

[Turnbuckle]

 

As far as the C60 dust causing increased toxicity, there is a simple solution - don't breathe the dust! I think we have been over this before. Of course we wouldn't mix C60 dust with toxic fumes - we aren't idiots. Who comes up with these bizarre research ideas? Just to be clear, we are taking it orally and sometimes topically. Perhaps though it could mix with things after we swallow it? In that case should it always be taken on an empty stomach?

 

It doesn't matter how or when you take c60oo.  Those toxicities are only seen with aggregates, but c60oo is a molecular species.  It will not aggregate, outside of the body or inside.

 

 

 

The Baati study did find crystal formation among animals getting the highest doses--

 

While transmission electron microscopy (TEM) at D8 after i.p.

administration shows numerous spleen macrophages laden C60

crystals (Fig. 2e) only some C60 crystals were observed inside liver

macrophages and very rare crystals in lung (Fig. 2f) and kidney cells

(Fig. 2g).

 

 

[sensei]

 

 

 

The Baati study did find crystal formation among animals getting the highest doses--

 

 

 

 

 

I thought the animals only got 1 level of dosage 1.7mg/kg by gavage.

 

Was this a sub-study?

 

If so what were these "highest dosages"

[Turnbuckle]

 

 

 

 

The Baati study did find crystal formation among animals getting the highest doses--

 

 

 

 

 

I thought the animals only got 1 level of dosage 1.7mg/kg by gavage.

 

Was this a sub-study?

 

If so what were these "highest dosages"

 

 

Here is the paper. There was more than one dosing protocol. 

[sensei]

 

 

 

 

 

The Baati study did find crystal formation among animals getting the highest doses--

 

 

 

 

 

I thought the animals only got 1 level of dosage 1.7mg/kg by gavage.

 

Was this a sub-study?

 

If so what were these "highest dosages"

 

 

Here is the paper. There was more than one dosing protocol. 

 

 

I stand informed.

 

But -- that was only seen in the rats given 4mg/kg by IP injection -- not by the rats given oral gavage even at 4mg/kg.

 

I'm not about to inject 320mg/400ml of C60OO into my body cavity every day for 7 days .

Edited by sensei, 18 January 2015 - 04:31 AM.

[Turnbuckle]

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Baati study did find crystal formation among animals getting the highest doses--

 

 

 

 

 

I thought the animals only got 1 level of dosage 1.7mg/kg by gavage.

 

Was this a sub-study?

 

If so what were these "highest dosages"

 

 

Here is the paper. There was more than one dosing protocol. 

 

 

I stand informed.

 

But -- that was only seen in the rats given 4mg/kg by IP injection -- not by the rats given oral gavage even at 4mg/kg.

 

I'm not about to inject 320mg/400ml of C60OO into my body cavity every day for 7 days .

 

 

 

Good! But keep in mind that the rat studies were conducted over a short period of time, while we humans will (hopefully) be ingesting this stuff over decades. Thus the minimum effective dosage would seem prudent.

[sensei]

 

 

 

Good! But keep in mind that the rat studies were conducted over a short period of time, while we humans will (hopefully) be ingesting this stuff over decades. Thus the minimum effective dosage would seem prudent.

 

 

From the paper - a little further along:

 

"The presence

of C60 crystals inside the cells after i.p. administration (Fig. 2)

supports the hypothesis according to which the precipitation of

part of the administered C60 in the injection site may contribute to

the observed delay of elimination after i.p. administration. Nevertheless,

the weakness of organ concentrations notably at D8 after 7

daily successive administrations of C60 dissolved in olive oil clearly

shows that C60 molecules are eliminated from the organs in a few

hours after both oral and i.p. administrations."