Benzo withdrawal 14 months off, still suffering with cognitive impairment
#61
Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:12 PM
http://www.benzosupp...overy_times.htm
#62
Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:36 AM
Regarding Flumazenil
Someone on benzobuddies reported back from overseas and you're right, they took an IV dose of Flumazenil from a dr. I skimmed the article and Flumazenil looks promising as in the 24 hr delivery method.
GRON
Stay with it too man, I'm telling you guys I've seen a ton of people on the benzo site that were like us around this time and then around 12-14+ months they turned a corner.
#63
Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:46 AM
Regarding cognitive impairment/mental thoughts
I got my 'personality' back at probably around 4-5 months off, I was back to my quick witted humor. I can also say that at around month 7 the irrational fears and crazy thoughts started going away.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:49 AM
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#76
Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:05 PM
Also if you ordered the stuff in bulk from alibaba or something couldn't you just eat a bunch of it since only 5% gets absorbed and get the same effect as IV?
Or just stick it in the back door, either way.
This seems like a better method if you needed to take the stuff constantly over a month or something.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:52 PM
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#81
Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:30 PM
You can't order the flumazenil from just any internet source because you need certain specifications. It needs to have a ph level of 7 to do a subcutaneous infusion or so I'm told. So basically you need to mix 12 mgs with saline into a 30 ml flow tube that infuses you over 72 hours. You then refill every 3 days until you reach 12 days.
I've ordered it in injectable form from pharmacies like goldpharma. I injected 5 ml into myself over a period of 2 days. It made me tired, and slightly happy the next day.
I posted about it under another username c60tester.
I think it must be taken in larger quantities and over a longer period of time to get any real effect.
You can order it in bulk from china or something from places like alibaba.com, my friend has ordered stuff from there with no questions.
It only has a 5% or so oral absorbability rate so you could try that or take it that way or rectally for much higher absorbability.
#82
Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:27 PM
just a thought, I found magnesium barely helpful at all. hopefully it works for you. also I think buying flumaznil from alibaba might be an extremely wreckless idea, try a more trusted source than some overseas chem factory who manufactures drywall and happened to have some Flumazenil left over.
I know it's from china but they manufacture medical grade chemicals. There are many different companies competing for you. I think it should be safe.
#83
Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:43 AM
just a thought, I found magnesium barely helpful at all. hopefully it works for you. also I think buying flumaznil from alibaba might be an extremely wreckless idea, try a more trusted source than some overseas chem factory who manufactures drywall and happened to have some Flumazenil left over.
I know it's from china but they manufacture medical grade chemicals. There are many different companies competing for you. I think it should be safe.
The standards for medical purity in China can be pretty shitty, especially when there's no international law governing what they can and can't sell to you. there are no regulations on that. I know for sure that there are a few good great indian and chinese manufacturers who probably produce high purity products. I believe I actually found one [but they don't make flumazenil]. However a lot of it is unregulated and you really have no idea what's in it, even if they give you an in-house COA.. it really proves nothing. But yeah I am just saying people should be wary of what companies they buy from. Some companies specifically manufacture human-grade quality, and have good reputation for that, and specialize in that area.. others do not. Though it's kind of hard to tell online. And it's even worse if you lack the knowledge of what certain terms mean. . for example if someone buys a certain form of the chemical which is not injectable but they didn't know so they did it anyway and ended up with huge problems.
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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:12 PM
#85
Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:39 PM
Have you ever realized that your symptoms could also be classified in the adhd/add realm? And since you are taking an SSRI (still?) all you do is increase serotonin. That in turn downregulates dopamine. And your symptoms like bad memory, lack of focus, complex thinking are all associated with not enough dopamine in the brain. It may be that your problems are not related to gaba anymore, but to low dopamine/high serotonin.
So I would suggest, if it is possible depression wise, to taper of the ssri, and increase dopamine through tyrosine and cofactors at the same time.
But of course always ask your doc first.
#86
Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:08 PM
Cerebrolysin may also help clear you up. 5ml 5 days a week for 4 weeks.
Also, a very high dose of Niacin is worth trying. 3g Niacin, 3g Vitamin C, 1g Pantothenic Acid (build up to that dosage over time). That should help flush random garbage out of your system as well as possibly help start the process of fixing you up.
#87
Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:18 PM
that, and/or receptor downregulation, because tyrosine would have to have a bigger impact on dopamine then phenylalanine.
I see no reason why phenylalanine should be superior to tyrosine, other then being weaker and therefore above reasons could play a role.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:33 PM
#89
Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:08 PM
Phenylalanine also converts to phenylethylamine that releases dopamine and noradrenaline.
Thats interesting, thanks. Gotta research that.
Hmm. Wiki says tyrosine, dopamine and adrenaline are phenylethylamines. Which is exactly, what tyrosine is doing, but one step ahead of phenylalanine so it would be still a better choice.
Edited by BioFreak, 13 February 2013 - 05:16 PM.
#90
Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:21 PM
Any updates on this?
Have any of you tried cerebrolysin to fix this?
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