#1081
Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:11 PM
#1082
Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:36 AM
For those willing please try and report back. Try 10mg each nostril at first.
#1083
Posted 15 August 2013 - 01:43 AM
I have to warn it is painful but form those willing, try a little each nostril and report back what you feel.
So far I feel a sense of inner happiness growing inside of me. It's that type of happiness that seems to come from within your body, like everything is going to be ok. Similar to how most of us felt like when we were kids. It is still subtle but hopfully it keeps growing into a pronounced sense of inner happiness and peace.
#1084
Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:16 AM
One thing I noticed that's very significant is how NSI-189 totally gets rid of the crash from dopaminergic stimulant use. I am prescribed Adderall for ADHD and I've been taking it daily for over a year now. I am just not crashing anymore, it is ridiculous. I forgot to take my second dose for the first time in a year today.
#1085
Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:11 AM
#1086
Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:18 AM
About "brain food" while on NSI189, is anybody taking stuff like lecithin/DHA/uridine to provide "building blocks" for the brain?
#1087
Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:23 AM
#1088
Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:25 AM
This must have a dopaminergic action of some sort (possibly just potentiates it). I took my normal small dose of rasagiline and got a headache i usually associate with taking TOO much rasagiline. I may skip the rasagiline for the remainder of the trial.
I never have headache and i had one today. No rasagiline in my regimen. After the headache i suspect i felt the nsi. I wasnt as focused as on cerebrolysin but i feel there may be a build up. I stayed focused throughout the rest of the day; i still am way too much focused for this timeof the evening. I suspect i will have trouble sleeping.
Edited by sunshinefrost, 15 August 2013 - 04:35 AM.
#1089
Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:31 AM
Anybody stacking Cerebrolysin with NSI189? I think this might be the most sensible/interesting combo, since CERE is synaptotrophic and also contains a lot of nutrients needed for neurogenesis, making it the perfect companion to NSI189.
About "brain food" while on NSI189, is anybody taking stuff like lecithin/DHA/uridine to provide "building blocks" for the brain?
Having felt both of those susbtances i think it may be too much. i am usually very sensitive to any susbtances but still... I have cere here at home, tempted to try it, but a bit wary. I want to test nsi alone first.
As for brain food here is my stack:
- nsi-189 45 mg in morning
- folic acid
- phosphatidyl serine
- phosphatidyl choline
- omega 3
I was thinking of adding pqq + coq10
Edited by sunshinefrost, 15 August 2013 - 04:39 AM.
#1090
Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:47 AM
I live in Middle Earth
#1091
Posted 16 August 2013 - 03:52 PM
#1092
Posted 16 August 2013 - 04:07 PM
It's been quiet here. Anyone care to share?
Sure, I'd like to say that this stuff taste like some kind of burnt material. It can be rough at times...
#1093
Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:30 PM
oh and you really don't need to be taking this intranasal.... this works all day at 20 mg orally... easily, it's powerful.
Edited by sunshinefrost, 16 August 2013 - 05:35 PM.
#1094
Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:33 PM
#1095
Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:46 PM
Hi, Sunshine. Thanks for the update. Do you have any feedback regarding the emotional experience of NSI? For example, any changes in mood, energy, optimism, quality of life, etc.
Yes i do feel a small mood improvement actually but it still might be residual placebo as i had huge expectations for this. like others mentionned it's not euphoria. but then again Euphoria isn't my goal just yet. Definitly more optimist but this is because there is free energy that comes with NSI.
As for working memory, i feel my thoughs more organised, my performance improved in video games (BF3) but no improvements on DNB. i'm going to be reading a lot today, i'll report later.
Edited by sunshinefrost, 16 August 2013 - 05:48 PM.
#1096
Posted 16 August 2013 - 06:06 PM
Hi, Sunshine. Thanks for the update. Do you have any feedback regarding the emotional experience of NSI? For example, any changes in mood, energy, optimism, quality of life, etc.
Yes i do feel a small mood improvement actually but it still might be residual placebo as i had huge expectations for this. like others mentionned it's not euphoria. but then again Euphoria isn't my goal just yet. Definitly more optimist but this is because there is free energy that comes with NSI.
As for working memory, i feel my thoughs more organised, my performance improved in video games (BF3) but no improvements on DNB. i'm going to be reading a lot today, i'll report later.
Great to hear how you're progressing, Sunshine. I don't think euphoria is a necessary (or useful) target as well. Life is all about balance, right? But if NSI helps us maintain a more positive outlook so we can all reach our own potential, that would be awesome. Best of luck!
Edited by neopeon, 16 August 2013 - 06:08 PM.
#1097
Posted 16 August 2013 - 07:48 PM
Hi, Sunshine. Thanks for the update. Do you have any feedback regarding the emotional experience of NSI? For example, any changes in mood, energy, optimism, quality of life, etc.
Yes i do feel a small mood improvement actually but it still might be residual placebo as i had huge expectations for this. like others mentionned it's not euphoria. but then again Euphoria isn't my goal just yet. Definitly more optimist but this is because there is free energy that comes with NSI.
As for working memory, i feel my thoughs more organised, my performance improved in video games (BF3) but no improvements on DNB. i'm going to be reading a lot today, i'll report later.
What's ur Steam username? I play BF3 a lot lol.
#1098
Posted 16 August 2013 - 08:34 PM
Hi, Sunshine. Thanks for the update. Do you have any feedback regarding the emotional experience of NSI? For example, any changes in mood, energy, optimism, quality of life, etc.
Yes i do feel a small mood improvement actually but it still might be residual placebo as i had huge expectations for this. like others mentionned it's not euphoria. but then again Euphoria isn't my goal just yet. Definitly more optimist but this is because there is free energy that comes with NSI.
As for working memory, i feel my thoughs more organised, my performance improved in video games (BF3) but no improvements on DNB. i'm going to be reading a lot today, i'll report later.
What's ur Steam username? I play BF3 a lot lol.
Mindfulman2
#1099
Posted 16 August 2013 - 08:54 PM
#1100
Posted 16 August 2013 - 09:30 PM
#1101
Posted 16 August 2013 - 09:31 PM
#1102
Posted 16 August 2013 - 09:57 PM
#1103
Posted 16 August 2013 - 10:22 PM
Let's keep our heads cool people... it's too early to get prematurely excited about anything isn't it?Please, don't leave me so jealous!! I want this stuff!!!
How much is the longest someone has ingested daily doses of NSI-189 here?
#1104
Posted 16 August 2013 - 11:54 PM
#1105
Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:44 AM
Today at work, I've had the chance to test NSI-189's interaction with alcohol and I wasn't surprised to see that it made it a clearer high. The aftermath was weird, though. I got a headache that lasted about 10 minutes accompanied by a certain amount of brain fog. It has been over an hour since the headache subsided and I am feeling much better right now. In fact, my verbal fluency and sociability skyrocketed after the headache. Note that I was fully sober by then.
#1106
Posted 17 August 2013 - 06:35 AM
In a way, I feel like a lot of my previously negative autonomous thinking patterns (subconscious) are coming closer to the 'surface'. The way that I think is becoming clearer and more accessible to me.
It's been four days for me.
#1107
Posted 17 August 2013 - 05:36 PM
This time was different, though. I found myself going through the people that I had interacted throughout the day, and noticed that I ended each and every one of those interactions on a good note. Today resulted in me being closer to every person I had interacted. I found myself thinking "today was the best day ever". I think NSI might be a reason.
#1108
Posted 17 August 2013 - 07:18 PM
Most of what I've experienced is very similar to what Therein has posted on this thread. Although questions about how much of the effect is placebo are valid, I know I have enough self-awareness to rule that out for reasons stated below.
Overcoming PTSD is the primary reason I've been trying the various nootropics in the last several months.
The effects of NSI-189 at first were notable because of the change in my thought and response patterns. Negative mind chatter diminished a lot, sometimes disappearing altogether. I also just felt much better emotionally. It seems that the perpetual vigilance of being poised between fight or flight simply vanished.
It is as if all the mindfulness practice I've done over the last few years finally took hold and now works continously (and without conscious effort). This sounds paradoxical, because mindfulness is, in part, about making at least some small conscious effort, at least to initiate mindfulness.
Unfortunately I did not start my usual log for evaluating something new, which I had intended to do with NSI-189. Right after I started the NSI-189 unexpected events occurred that were very stressful and pulled most of my focus and energy away from optimizing my life and threw me into survival mode instead.
In the past, these kind of events, along with the ensuing survival mode, would have triggered full-blown PTSD symptoms for days, if not weeks or months. But that didn't happen this time. Even under normal circumstances I sometimes have mild PTSD symptoms. I had only been taking the NSI-189 for about 1 day when the s**t hit the fan in my life. I was able to handle the situations that arose without any mental struggle or emotional shut-down.
I have worked hard for years to eradicate the PTSD, using many different modalities. Though some things were very helpful I never quite achieved my goal of eradicating PTSD. No doubt, that for me, chronic PTSD causes some kind of brain "damage." I strongly suspect that NSI-189 is making part of my brain a lot more efficient at processing emotional states in real time.
There's potential with this drug to heal certain mental health conditions, especially with supportive modalities, such as CBT, mindfulness training, etc. I also see how this could be very useful for exercise and learning practice, because the negative mental tracks are pretty much erased or at least silenced. So you can train yourself without all of the self-doubt bogging you down, but retain healthy self-awareness and common sense for your safety and well-being.
It is helping me achieve balance and calm without removing pleasure and without making me too "Zen" or robotic.
It's a little like therapeutic drugs and mind training I've taken in the past for anxiety, ADD, and PTSD, but also very different because it seems to have a wide area of effect on the brain and has not, thus far, felt like too much.
It is not exactly like a stimulant, an anti-depressant, an anxiolytic, a sedative, or a nootropic. No intense drive, pleasant hypomania, euphoria, or chill to the point of emotional numbness. But it is somewhat like all of the above with a difference that I can't yet figure out. Maybe it's simply that it has such a broad-spectrum effect that it's hard to define.
I'm taking 40-50 mg twice a day soon after eating. I think that lower doses may be equally effective. I'm watching the pile of sample diminish and wondering what will happen when it's gone.
I am not experiencing any tolerance effect. But I have gotten used to it's broad spectrum effect. Now that things have calmed down in my life I am working on NSI-189's potential for enhancing my mental and emotional functioning. I will start logging effects in a more systematic fashion now.
If this is truly harmless and is working for others as I've experienced, I would rate it at the top of brain healing and brain enhancing drugs. Especially if it helps optimize (for the long term) other goals and strategies, like learning, physical training, and creative skills.
Sorry if I've detracted from the goal of objectivity that others have stated. But I am pretty sure I will participate in the 2nd group buy and a little worried that availability of this drug may diminish.
Note to people who drink alcohol while taking any nootropics: mechanism of action is not always clear with these drugs, but an increase in brain cell permeability does happen with some, so if your brain cells have become temporarily more permeable as a result of some nootropics you're taking, you might want to consider how much alcohol and how often you want to also permeate your brain cells...
No alcohol or extreme moderation seems wisest to me, maybe even more so with NSI-189 because both excess alcohol and NSI-189 are known to affect the hippocampus.
Edited by MizTen, 17 August 2013 - 07:27 PM.
#1109
Posted 17 August 2013 - 07:27 PM
#1110
Posted 17 August 2013 - 07:36 PM
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