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[Blackkzeus]

Is it odd that I was respondent  to the freebase form of nsi-189 but not the phosphate form ? 

[playground]

 

I'm about to try NSI189 for the first time. Before I do, I want to make sure nothing I take is contraindicated.

selegiline - 1.25 mg every morning
l-theanine - 50 mg every morning
ALCAR - 200 mg most mornings
melatonin - 16 mg every night
zopiclone - 3.75 mg every night
low dose naltrexone - 4.5 mg every night - stopped taking four nights ago, I think it was causing problems for me re: ACTH and adrenal function
various antibiotics for Lyme disease
various herbs for Lyme


Any potential issues?

 

Shouldn't be any issues, but keep in mind that it is still a research chemical, even though it has gone through Phase Ib trials on healthy humans.

 

Why are you taking a low dose naltrexone? Is it for the Lyme or some other condition?

 

 

why 16mg of melatonin ?

I think we naturally produce less than 1mg per night... so a 1mg supplement should be sufficient.

 

Which herbs are you taking for lyme disease  and what's the rationale for each one ?

 

[dwaaam]

why 16mg of melatonin ?
I think we naturally produce less than 1mg per night... so a 1mg supplement should be sufficient.

Which herbs are you taking for lyme disease and what's the rationale for each one ?

It's quite a large dose. Most pills have about 3mg.

But anecdotal evidence and some research indicate that lower doses may work better, in the ranges of few hundred micrograms.

http://news.mit.edu/2005/melatonin

[BasicBiO]

LEF used to endorse large doses of melatonin due to it's powerful antiinflammatory properties...and probably because they sell it. Ive used megadoses in the past with few issues but also few perceived benefits.

[playground]

Is it odd that I was respondent  to the freebase form of nsi-189 but not the phosphate form ? 

 

It sounds dodgy.

Perhaps phosphate form was .... not nsi-189.

Who did you buy it from ?

[Strelok]

Is it odd that I was respondent  to the freebase form of nsi-189 but not the phosphate form ? 

 

Who was your source for both the freebase and phosphate forms that you used?

[plumper76]

Strangelove I pm 'd you im interested in purchasing freebase nsi189 thank you.
Strangelove I pm 'd you im interested in purchasing freebase nsi189 thank you.

[forexworld12]

Just an update : I got my NSI 189 sample from StrangeLove... its surely legit based on the people exp about the effects but I had to halt my trial after 4 days  as dosing is a big problem so strangelove sent me a 10mg scoop And I really appreciate that.. As soon as I get it I will start again and let everyone know! I hope it fixes the apathy and returns the emotions!

[playground]

 

I have to say, I'm a bit staggered by the brazen approach of the shills on this website. 

It's like, subtlety is really not an option.

 

I keep thinking: 

 

Are they behaving this way because they are idiots..

i.e. that they fail to imagine that we'll know what they're doing ?

 

Or.. do they behave this way because they are convinced we are idiots ..

i.e. that we would never guess what they're trying to drum up some sales.

Edited by playground, 20 March 2016 - 07:42 PM.

[drg]

shills? 
goto reddit for that

I don't know what you are complaining about "playground"... most of the actual companies got seize and desists for selling NSI and the people now selling it happened more organically. And to be frank it isn't mostly the sellers "shilling" it is the customers mentioning their source. 

No one is trying to hide anything, it is the internet you can buy anything you want if you know where to look, and I suppose for nsi you look here. 

[Strangelove]

Well personaly, I appreciate the positive feelings I am getting, most in private and I do not think make much difference in how many choose it to get NSI-189 from me.

 

Playground send me your address for some free NSI-189, you might get some surprising positive effects, and start "shilling" yourself.

 

Surely not trying to offend, as I am in this category myself... There is a "form of Consciousness" that is reactive, clever, suspicious, noradrenergic, analytic, non social e.t.c. All these seem to cluster more or less together... I have given the term "reactive consciousness" and I first got the idea from the effects NSI-189 gives me... I mentioned it once in the past somewhat fifty pages back, but I am not doing it again so not to boost sales  Anyway NSI-189 seems to even this out... Does not make you dumb :P instead when you just think you are confident, you feel confident, need less the internal structures you build and you are more open and social.

 

This would make sense for only a fraction "of the personalities" that are trying NSI-189 but anyone else knows what I am talking about?

 

edit: the clever does not do it justice, detached logic and analytical is better. I am not very suspicious myself and the only conspiracy theory I believe is that of pharmaceutical establishment, as I have lived it first hand. 

Edited by Strangelove, 20 March 2016 - 10:40 PM.

[pheanix997]

Even if people are pumping 189 for more sales - though I don't think that's the case other than possibly few members that no longer post here (also note I am not suspicious by nature either) - that's what they've chosen to do with their time. Perhaps they've also invested in the stock and are trying to pump.

Well, IMO if that were the case, I feel sorry for anyone wasting their time trying to do that. Not only is it pathetic in a moral sense, but it doesn't work. Why? Because the only thing which will move the stock enough to make having your money sit in a fluctuating penny stock for 5+ years all worth it, is FDA approval. Underground anecdotal pumping doesn't move stock prices, and even if it does slightly, if the drug doesn't work the in the end the market will respond accordingly,and hence a waste of time. Which is why I think it's pathetic, IF that were even happening.

But my point is, even if people are pumping for direct sales here or stock increase, that has no impact on you. Try the product yourself. I think you've been offered a free sample. We're lucky we live in an age that we can try brain medicines that are only Phase IIa successful.

Edit: And the people that make that possible deserve to be respected and shown gratitude - they don't owe us anything.

Edited by pheanix997, 20 March 2016 - 11:00 PM.

[Omega 3 Snake Oil]

would a shill send out free samples?

[DSTiamat]

Even if people are pumping 189 for more sales - though I don't think that's the case other than possibly few members that no longer post here (also note I am not suspicious by nature either) - that's what they've chosen to do with their time. Perhaps they've also invested in the stock and are trying to pump.

Well, IMO if that were the case, I feel sorry for anyone wasting their time trying to do that. Not only is it pathetic in a moral sense, but it doesn't work. Why? Because the only thing which will move the stock enough to make having your money sit in a fluctuating penny stock for 5+ years all worth it, is FDA approval. Underground anecdotal pumping doesn't move stock prices, and even if it does slightly, if the drug doesn't work the in the end the market will respond accordingly,and hence a waste of time. Which is why I think it's pathetic, IF that were even happening.

But my point is, even if people are pumping for direct sales here or stock increase, that has no impact on you. Try the product yourself. I think you've been offered a free sample. We're lucky we live in an age that we can try brain medicines that are only Phase IIa successful.

Edit: And the people that make that possible deserve to be respected and shown gratitude - they don't owe us anything.

 

Cheers to that!!!

Even if we dont exactly know how it works, it definetly works, never felt so good in a long time (going through some hard personal times, without NSI I would have been really down). Many thanks Mr. Strangelove, we need more people like you!!

DST

[RobGreen]

I don't know, Martin Shkreli made a fortune off biotech by gaming the forums.

[Strangelove]

Thanks for the positive words everyone, nice to hear!

 

Playground has made many quality posts, going in some interesting technical information in the past, there is nothing against NSI-189 or me, this is his style. In my circle they are some highly intuitive and otherwise logical people that think every single thing is controlled. The British philosopher (one of the greatest in the previous century) Karl Popper got into some interesting arguments against "world domination" conspiracy theories. You cannot have a seamless control of open social structures, as individual interest in its many ways, greatly separate and diffuse the many sources of social / economic / political power. Although again (unfortunately) pharmaceutical companies in areas like cancer, heart disease, chronic infections, are doing a pretty "good" job, getting our money, without offering much.

 

I don't know, Martin Shkreli made a fortune off biotech by gaming the forums.

 

I never thought about this, I do not think Neuralstem stock going up (much?) from this thread now, but if it gets FDA approved investors then, may be looking for experiences on line. In any case I do not think anyone is gaming this thread, the most positive experiences are from very long term members, something like 100 pages ago, most members just not report back these days, although I am getting positive feedback when I ask in PMs. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Strelok]

I don't remember this being discussed:  are there any supplements that are known (or thought) to be contraindicated with NSI-189, or that should be used with caution?

[RobGreen]

Nobody knows and the FDA doesn't require testing for dysergy. You could draw conclusions from the MOA but that's not officially disclosed.

[playground]

would a shill send out free samples?

 

Would a marketeer engage in marketing ?

 

hmmm.. that's a tough one.

[chemicalambrosia]

I have to say, I'm a bit staggered by the brazen approach of the shills on this website. 

It's like, subtlety is really not an option.

 

I keep thinking: 

 

Are they behaving this way because they are idiots..

i.e. that they fail to imagine that we'll know what they're doing ?

 

Or.. do they behave this way because they are convinced we are idiots ..

i.e. that we would never guess what they're trying to drum up some sales.

 

Wow dude, no one here is shilling. There are very few sources of NSI available, and when one is an individual reselling it, then posting you got it from them to provide feedback to the community is useful. That is part of why this forum is here, right? Do you think every single person here mentioning SL is a shill, or do you think the numerous members that have mentioned him(combined post totals are probably in the thousands) are all grateful that he is providing them a useful treatment that is largely unavailable otherwise and want to help out other members? If you have a cheaper verified source let us know... by all means "shill" it. You would be contributing to the community, just as the posters mentioning SL are. I've seen shilling on this forum and I've even pointed it out. This is as far away from shilling as you can get.
 

I for one would like to thank SL for making NSI available to us. He is professional and pleasant to deal with and makes getting NSI quite convenient. We might be going through the hassle of group buys if he wasn't doing this, so he is saving some of us a huge hassle(see some of the group buy history to understand). Playground, participate in a group buy that doesn't go well and you will understand why we will support an honorable seller.

[Omega 3 Snake Oil]

Just took my first dose, 5 mg. How does everyone feel the first time they try it?

[drg]

Just took my first dose, 5 mg. How does everyone feel the first time they try it?

Took 2.5 weeks at 40mg before I noticed anything particularly noticeable. Possibly it had/has minor effects on my sleep immediately.

[Omega 3 Snake Oil]

I feel a bit strange after taking it. Slight headache and malaise. Though lately a lot of things make me feel this way, even a few bites of a banana (adrenal issue, can't handle potassium or magnesium). Does anyone ever feel any odd sensations right off the bat?

[jaiho]

Yep, it will give you abit of head pressure, goes away in a few days usually.

 

[BasicBiO]

I felt a worsening of depression symptoms immediately until I added in folic acid and B6. After that, I could feel the effects of the drug..huge uptick in motivation, mood, mental energy etc that B vitamins alone never provided on their own.

 

Nobody's shilling they're just enthusiastic, sometimes overly so, but most info on this site arises from a desire to learn and help.

 

I've been involved in the fitness supplement arena for nearly 20 years and can spot a shill anywhere on the net:)

[Omega 3 Snake Oil]

What time does everyone take it? I'm worried about taking it early when I take my selegiline. I'm not convinced it won't interact. But taking it at night may disrupt my sleep, from what I'm hearing...

Also: Is it okay to take GABA with NSI?

Edited by Omega 3 Snake Oil, 22 March 2016 - 01:04 AM.

[pheanix997]

The thing I've noticed is if you take it at night, the effects might be gone by morning. Usually if I take in the morning my effects wane as the day goes on. A second dose is usually required.

[Omega 3 Snake Oil]

Feeling pretty jittery now, roughly five hours in. Cold hands, slightly shivery. Body temp is normal. Is this normal? How long does the effect last?

[Omega 3 Snake Oil]

is there anything I can take to safely counter the effects? No way I'll be able to sleep like this, and it's 10:45 here.

[drg]

sleeping pills to sleep... it is possible most of the side effects diisappear after a week or two though so dont give up