thanks for the feedback guys, ive tasted it two or three times and i would describe it as something between these three: "super less bitter version of mdma", flour or starch, and some sort of dental product they use to numb your mouth at the dentist. all in all not too unpleasant. does that sound about right? Not that im too satisfied from a simple trial by taste honestly :P
#4801
Posted 04 January 2017 - 05:13 PM
#4802
Posted 04 January 2017 - 05:38 PM
Hello folks, i have a question.
I have just received and started my NSI-189 trial, day 2 so far. Bought from an european source (one of the main ones available, no names as of now) .
Ive had stomach issues (diahhrea and intestinal discomfort). Is this something common on NSI189? Because it feels extremely serotonergic. Ive had this often on Fluoxetine and almost all the time on Bacopa.
So i've started to wonder if this might not be nsi afterall but simply something else.... How would one have it tested?
NSI got a very unique taste. Once you found one good source you can recognize it by taste, because it has a unique aftertaste, foretaste and maintaste. With this methode you can tell its 100% NSI, but you cant taste tasteless fillers of course. I never had diahrea, but body aches are common and for me lowered blood flow. There are some body problems on it, but without depression you dont focus on them that much.
So I'm not the only one who finds the taste of NSI-189 peculiar!
It's... hard to describe, actually. I'm trying to think of similar chemical tastes, or even regular tastes, but it's not entirely easy to put it into words. It's somewhat bitter, but not that much, more... I don't know!
It's not like Fasoracetam, which has a clear, SUPER-bitter taste, to the point that it's almost PAINFUL to ingest - NSI-189 reminds me a bit of the foretaste of Faso, but it's not entirely right.
Anybody else care to make an attempt at describing the taste?
Telling people about it isn't all that useful, if they don't know what to look for.
The taste is mildly bitter, and very mildly numbing. I don't think you can really classify the flavor of bitter, but it would more or less be like if you took a tiny piece of aspirin and crushed it up on the tongue, with a subtle numbing effect.
#4803
Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:00 PM
Hello all -
First non-introduction post here. Been lurking for several years, nsi-189 is what finally did the trick for me making an account.
Had a couple questions
It's my understanding that NSI-189 is related to piperazine, if I'm understanding the chemical formula correctly. I'm concerned it may give false positives for amphetamines (it's all hearsay, but I've heard stories of other piperazine derivatives doing this.) Has anyone taken a drug screen while cycling nsi-189?
Secondly,
If anyone has NSI-189 phosphate and is open to coming off of some, PM me, please? Thanks in advance!
#4804
Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:21 PM
Hello all -
First non-introduction post here. Been lurking for several years, nsi-189 is what finally did the trick for me making an account.
Had a couple questions
It's my understanding that NSI-189 is related to piperazine, if I'm understanding the chemical formula correctly. I'm concerned it may give false positives for amphetamines (it's all hearsay, but I've heard stories of other piperazine derivatives doing this.) Has anyone taken a drug screen while cycling nsi-189?
Secondly,
If anyone has NSI-189 phosphate and is open to coming off of some, PM me, please? Thanks in advance!
interesting that you noted this. NSI seems to be stimulating to me, yet calming. I do seem to get an increase in heart rate, and sleep is a little more difficult. But my appetite increases, unlike say an experience with amphetamines. I don't have an experience with drug tests on this, but am also curious.
#4805
Posted 04 January 2017 - 07:41 PM
I'm sitting on a 10-panel drug screen I got so I could self-test before I go screwing up a job application, just in case, but I need to acquire the NSI-189 first. I'll be happy to report once I do
#4806
Posted 04 January 2017 - 08:27 PM
I would love for someone to explain their experience with listening to music while on NSI, as it's so greatly enhanced, that i'm compelled to talk about it.
I will make an attempt. Pre-NSI i thought music sounded good, while occasionally getting the goosebumpy feeling from head to toe, more on a superficial skin level. On NSI when listening to music my mind feels like an empty concert hall with music resonating inside my skull with crystal clear clarity, like there is no thinking, just EXPERIENCING. Its like the difference between listening to music through computer speakers or a nice set of klipshes. The goosebump feeling often travels from head to toe, in a very quick rush like sensation, as in possibly more dopamine being released than before.
Edited by Twindaddy37, 04 January 2017 - 08:46 PM.
#4807
Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:04 PM
I would love for someone to explain their experience with listening to music while on NSI, as it's so greatly enhanced, that i'm compelled to talk about it.
I will make an attempt. Pre-NSI i thought music sounded good, while occasionally getting the goosebumpy feeling from head to toe, more on a superficial skin level. On NSI when listening to music my mind feels like an empty concert hall with music resonating inside my skull with crystal clear clarity, like there is no thinking, just EXPERIENCING. Its like the difference between listening to music through computer speakers or a nice set of klipshes. The goosebump feeling often travels from head to toe, in a very quick rush like sensation, as in possibly more dopamine being released than before.
Curious. I don't notice this?
Music seems to have about the same quality for me? Maybe slightly better.
What I do notice though, is that VISUALS are much better! Great scenes in movies and games, are just more heart-felt all of a sudden - great paintings suddenly feel more alive for me!
This probably has to do with ones internal sensory abilities - because I'd say they're ALL enhanced on this! At least, the emotional response is enhanced - so that might be it - everything you touch, see, hear, or feel is dialled up to friggin' 11...!
*cue spinal tap song*
Btw - small note here - did you experience the enhanced PAIN-perception some does, while on NSI-189? Or the tingling, sort of neuropathic pain even? I myself did this, but only to a small degree - would be interesting to see if there's a pattern among the sensory response to this drug.
#4808
Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:08 PM
I would love for someone to explain their experience with listening to music while on NSI, as it's so greatly enhanced, that i'm compelled to talk about it.
I will make an attempt. Pre-NSI i thought music sounded good, while occasionally getting the goosebumpy feeling from head to toe, more on a superficial skin level. On NSI when listening to music my mind feels like an empty concert hall with music resonating inside my skull with crystal clear clarity, like there is no thinking, just EXPERIENCING. Its like the difference between listening to music through computer speakers or a nice set of klipshes. The goosebump feeling often travels from head to toe, in a very quick rush like sensation, as in possibly more dopamine being released than before.
Curious. I don't notice this?
Music seems to have about the same quality for me? Maybe slightly better.
What I do notice though, is that VISUALS are much better! Great scenes in movies and games, are just more heart-felt all of a sudden - great paintings suddenly feel more alive for me!
This probably has to do with ones internal sensory abilities - because I'd say they're ALL enhanced on this! At least, the emotional response is enhanced - so that might be it - everything you touch, see, hear, or feel is dialled up to friggin' 11...!
*cue spinal tap song*
Btw - small note here - did you experience the enhanced PAIN-perception some does, while on NSI-189? Or the tingling, sort of neuropathic pain even? I myself did this, but only to a small degree - would be interesting to see if there's a pattern among the sensory response to this drug.
Interesting you say that about movies, i felt the exact same way, its as if i "feel" more for the things going on in the tv, almost like a feel a part of it. Very strange, it almost makes 2D become 3D in a emotional/feeling sense. I was watching a movie and felt as though i was in the scene with the actors (on an emotional level), and i was like "whoa thats a strange sensation". I get the exact opposite with pain sensation, honestly NSI makes my body feel much more fluid, flexible, light and pain free- yet another bonus. However, this is only week 2 mind you.
It would seem to me that you stand more to gain from this drug if you have dipped below your genetic potential and done some damage to certain areas of the brain. I myself lived in a drug fueled, balls to the wall, panic mode state for ten years, and the years before that were not much better. I would imagine i did some heavy damage having lived in fight or flight for basically ten years straight. If you've had a relatively healthy life and are starting this drug, maybe you do not get the really noticeable qualities or it causes some type of irritation in the brain. I feel like i have a lot of damage to repair, and though i have already (with non medicinal methods), i wanted to chose a nootropic that would repair, hence experimenting with NSI. I would never go the western medicinal route, as i did 12 years ago, trying every SSRI, trycyclic, SNRI, available with horrible side effects and no benefits. (clearly don't need those). Recently, I was not in a state where i was feeling depressed or anxious even, i was feeling relatively good, but for sure better on NSI, leaving me to believe i was getting comfortable in a state below my potential.
Edited by Twindaddy37, 04 January 2017 - 11:29 PM.
#4809
Posted 05 January 2017 - 01:43 AM
just a quick report, I had been taking a low kratom dose (less then 10g) a day for 6 months and it seems that quitting kratom has made nsi much more noticable again.
#4810
Posted 05 January 2017 - 02:49 AM
I would love for someone to explain their experience with listening to music while on NSI, as it's so greatly enhanced, that i'm compelled to talk about it.
I will make an attempt. Pre-NSI i thought music sounded good, while occasionally getting the goosebumpy feeling from head to toe, more on a superficial skin level. On NSI when listening to music my mind feels like an empty concert hall with music resonating inside my skull with crystal clear clarity, like there is no thinking, just EXPERIENCING. Its like the difference between listening to music through computer speakers or a nice set of klipshes. The goosebump feeling often travels from head to toe, in a very quick rush like sensation, as in possibly more dopamine being released than before.
I get this as well on each cycle of NSI. Music has so much more depth to it, same with movies & other experiences.
#4811
Posted 05 January 2017 - 02:59 AM
I'm hoping to do another cycle again. It's been a few years now and my brain is ready for another upgrade. It fits perfectly with the other things I've been doing. It's interesting to read what people have been experiencing currently. I'm convinced (from my own experience) there is some sort of neurological repair process that occurs. Also convinced that it's safe if pure and dosed corrrectly. Of course, that is if you are already doing what you can to take care of yourself. I am so glad I was able to trial it.
#4812
Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:22 AM
Hello all -
First non-introduction post here. Been lurking for several years, nsi-189 is what finally did the trick for me making an account.
Had a couple questions
It's my understanding that NSI-189 is related to piperazine, if I'm understanding the chemical formula correctly. I'm concerned it may give false positives for amphetamines (it's all hearsay, but I've heard stories of other piperazine derivatives doing this.) Has anyone taken a drug screen while cycling nsi-189?
Secondly,
If anyone has NSI-189 phosphate and is open to coming off of some, PM me, please? Thanks in advance!
I took a mouth swab test for a job. Everything came out okay.
#4813
Posted 05 January 2017 - 04:55 PM
I'm hoping to do another cycle again. It's been a few years now and my brain is ready for another upgrade. It fits perfectly with the other things I've been doing. It's interesting to read what people have been experiencing currently. I'm convinced (from my own experience) there is some sort of neurological repair process that occurs. Also convinced that it's safe if pure and dosed corrrectly. Of course, that is if you are already doing what you can to take care of yourself. I am so glad I was able to trial it.
Can you explain your experience with it, how long your cycle was, effects on it, and lasting effects?
#4814
Posted 05 January 2017 - 05:13 PM
Has anyone experienced, super irrational, persistent psychotic rage from NSI 189? I recently had someone insult me and talk to me in a manner I didn't appreciate, in front of other people, and I proceeded to obsess over it in a fit of uncontrollable rage, I proceeded to devise several detailed plans for retribution against him, and even consulted with others on ideas for how to get back at him. Normally I'm numb, apathetic, and it's difficult for me to even feel anger from the depression. For the record I would never do anything violent, but I will say I managed to obtain his social security number within an hour of getting back home. It took me over 24 hours to really start coming down from the rage and thirst for vengeance but this is somewhat concerning and I cannot find anyone who has remotely shared this experience with the drug. I was only on piracetam and fish oil at the time aside from the NSI 189, not sure what happened. I completed 15 days at 80mg/day and have some more on the way, but I might have to AT LEAST lower the daily dose if I'm to continue.
#4815
Posted 05 January 2017 - 05:43 PM
Has anyone experienced, super irrational, persistent psychotic rage from NSI 189? I recently had someone insult me and talk to me in a manner I didn't appreciate, in front of other people, and I proceeded to obsess over it in a fit of uncontrollable rage, I proceeded to devise several detailed plans for retribution against him, and even consulted with others on ideas for how to get back at him. Normally I'm numb, apathetic, and it's difficult for me to even feel anger from the depression. For the record I would never do anything violent, but I will say I managed to obtain his social security number within an hour of getting back home. It took me over 24 hours to really start coming down from the rage and thirst for vengeance but this is somewhat concerning and I cannot find anyone who has remotely shared this experience with the drug. I was only on piracetam and fish oil at the time aside from the NSI 189, not sure what happened. I completed 15 days at 80mg/day and have some more on the way, but I might have to AT LEAST lower the daily dose if I'm to continue.
Why did you go with such a high dosage for your starting regimen??
NSI-189 was too much for me the first go around as well - lowering it from 40 mg to 20 mg per day fixed several problems - the excessive emotionality being the key symptom - I did not have quite these kinds of fits of rage which you describe, although I had several lesser ones of severe magnitude - however, mine was frought with more emotion than rage though, I had other breaks which were of more anxiety-based forms.
Another fellow in this thread reported psychotic rage as well - it's an unusual reaction in general, but fits with the excessive emotionality which is commonly reported.
Go down to 2 x 20 mg instead, and I think you might have a much better experience.
I must ask though - are you TRULY brain-damaged from burnout or long-term Major Depression? If not, then it might be that you really shouldn't be taking NSI-189 - if you don't have severe hippocampal damage, then you should lay off this stuff - it's not quite as benign as some would have made it out to be, because structural changes to your brain need NOT be benign.
Give it some thought mate - are you really a candidate for this drug?
#4816
Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:23 PM
Played around with several combinations on NSI. The most winning combination seems to be NSI, lithium orotate 10mg at bedtime, uridine 300mg in am, multi, mag citrate 800mg, glycine 3 grams at bedime, 2 grams of fish oil, 1500mg of lions mane, and tumeric. I would not put any other substance into your body that effects neurotransmitters as it does not pair well with NSI. I picked up some tianeptine sulfate because of all the rave reviews. In my experience its garbage, i got no noticeable benefit (aside from a brain fog like state), and after 3 days on it, i had a bit of a flat feeling the day i stopped using it, which greatly hindered the NSI benefits. Why mess with multiple transmitters while NSI is doing its work. Give NSI the necessary infrastructure and let it do its work, that's what i say. Add in 250-500 mg of phenibut 2 saturdays a month (for a super chill relaxing day), and your golden. Leave the rest of brain growth to new learned behaviors, going out of your way to help others (with the increased empathy from NSI), changing your diet, widening your interests, improving your sleep and getting more exercise. Having used most of the nootropics, i think NSI is the granddaddy and should be left alone to do its job.
#4817
Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:15 PM
Has anyone experienced, super irrational, persistent psychotic rage from NSI 189? I recently had someone insult me and talk to me in a manner I didn't appreciate, in front of other people, and I proceeded to obsess over it in a fit of uncontrollable rage, I proceeded to devise several detailed plans for retribution against him, and even consulted with others on ideas for how to get back at him. Normally I'm numb, apathetic, and it's difficult for me to even feel anger from the depression. For the record I would never do anything violent, but I will say I managed to obtain his social security number within an hour of getting back home. It took me over 24 hours to really start coming down from the rage and thirst for vengeance but this is somewhat concerning and I cannot find anyone who has remotely shared this experience with the drug. I was only on piracetam and fish oil at the time aside from the NSI 189, not sure what happened. I completed 15 days at 80mg/day and have some more on the way, but I might have to AT LEAST lower the daily dose if I'm to continue.
Why did you go with such a high dosage for your starting regimen??
NSI-189 was too much for me the first go around as well - lowering it from 40 mg to 20 mg per day fixed several problems - the excessive emotionality being the key symptom - I did not have quite these kinds of fits of rage which you describe, although I had several lesser ones of severe magnitude - however, mine was frought with more emotion than rage though, I had other breaks which were of more anxiety-based forms.
Another fellow in this thread reported psychotic rage as well - it's an unusual reaction in general, but fits with the excessive emotionality which is commonly reported.
Go down to 2 x 20 mg instead, and I think you might have a much better experience.
I must ask though - are you TRULY brain-damaged from burnout or long-term Major Depression? If not, then it might be that you really shouldn't be taking NSI-189 - if you don't have severe hippocampal damage, then you should lay off this stuff - it's not quite as benign as some would have made it out to be, because structural changes to your brain need NOT be benign.
Give it some thought mate - are you really a candidate for this drug?
Well, from the results I read of the initial clinical trials 80mg had the higher efficacy in regards to depression scores vs 40mg and 120mg. The 40mg is good advice though I think... I wouldn't really know how I could tell if I was brain damaged, or how anyone else can for that matter without some sort of brain scan, but I do have a stunted capacity for emotion among other things from the years of of the disease. Anyways YOLO. Sometimes you just gotta murder a guy for disrespecting you and go to jail.
Edit: That's a joke, I'm not a person that actually says YOLO in seriousness. Good info on this forum though.
Edited by DietMeth, 05 January 2017 - 09:23 PM.
#4818
Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:34 PM
Has anyone experienced, super irrational, persistent psychotic rage from NSI 189? I recently had someone insult me and talk to me in a manner I didn't appreciate, in front of other people, and I proceeded to obsess over it in a fit of uncontrollable rage, I proceeded to devise several detailed plans for retribution against him, and even consulted with others on ideas for how to get back at him. Normally I'm numb, apathetic, and it's difficult for me to even feel anger from the depression. For the record I would never do anything violent, but I will say I managed to obtain his social security number within an hour of getting back home. It took me over 24 hours to really start coming down from the rage and thirst for vengeance but this is somewhat concerning and I cannot find anyone who has remotely shared this experience with the drug. I was only on piracetam and fish oil at the time aside from the NSI 189, not sure what happened. I completed 15 days at 80mg/day and have some more on the way, but I might have to AT LEAST lower the daily dose if I'm to continue.
Why did you go with such a high dosage for your starting regimen??
NSI-189 was too much for me the first go around as well - lowering it from 40 mg to 20 mg per day fixed several problems - the excessive emotionality being the key symptom - I did not have quite these kinds of fits of rage which you describe, although I had several lesser ones of severe magnitude - however, mine was frought with more emotion than rage though, I had other breaks which were of more anxiety-based forms.
Another fellow in this thread reported psychotic rage as well - it's an unusual reaction in general, but fits with the excessive emotionality which is commonly reported.
Go down to 2 x 20 mg instead, and I think you might have a much better experience.
I must ask though - are you TRULY brain-damaged from burnout or long-term Major Depression? If not, then it might be that you really shouldn't be taking NSI-189 - if you don't have severe hippocampal damage, then you should lay off this stuff - it's not quite as benign as some would have made it out to be, because structural changes to your brain need NOT be benign.
Give it some thought mate - are you really a candidate for this drug?
Well, from the results I read of the initial clinical trials 80mg had the higher efficacy in regards to depression scores vs 40mg and 120mg. The 40mg is good advice though I think... I wouldn't really know how I could tell if I was brain damaged, or how anyone else can for that matter without some sort of brain scan, but I do have a stunted capacity for emotion among other things from the years of of the disease. Anyways YOLO. Sometimes you just gotta murder a guy for disrespecting you and go to jail.
Edit: That's a joke, I'm not a person that actually says YOLO in seriousness. Good info on this forum though.
If i heard it right you know that your rage attacks are a wrong thing, thats a step that a lot people dont do. If you got a braindamage induced by hard dopaminergic drugs you have a long way to go. Healthy food, good sleep and a lot selfreflection is the key. Make sure you have all minerals and vitamines in ur body and of course dont take drugs. You dont want to fix a zinc or magnesium, tryptophan deficit with antidepressants. Start with the lowest dosage and run it for weeks to check your longterm impact to prevent that you'll end in the nut house, because NSI aftermath are shifted.
#4819
Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:42 PM
Hi Twindaddy37, music sounds good to me on NSI-189 as well. Especially non vocal tracks, like trance music or even dubstep. I also appreciate classical music more. Movies make me cry too easily though - so I stick with comedy these days and laugh my head off.
I am surprised you are using Lithium Orotate regularly. I have read bad things about putting too much Li into your body and don't know if taking it on the daily is a good idea!
DietMeth that is fascinating about the rage you experienced. I guess thats one way to express extreme emotion! I have been upset and mad over something very minor on NSI-189, but no rage. I think being anxious can make this worse, so I have always taken it with tianeptine now, at the same time with my breakfast in the morning. That way even when I go up to 30mg it doesn't affect me in a negative way.
Can someone tell me when it is that I am supposed to know that NSI-189 has cured my hippocampal damage? Are we talking about a minimum time frame to take this (eg 6 months) or is it a kind of feeling that I am supposed to get? I feel great now but am afraid if I stop I'll turn into an mess again.
Mind you PRL-8-53 stacks so well with NSI-189 I don't want to stop that either lol. Incidental my exam results have just been released and they are the best I have seen my grades since forever
#4820
Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:02 PM
Hi Twindaddy37, music sounds good to me on NSI-189 as well. Especially non vocal tracks, like trance music or even dubstep. I also appreciate classical music more. Movies make me cry too easily though - so I stick with comedy these days and laugh my head off.
I am surprised you are using Lithium Orotate regularly. I have read bad things about putting too much Li into your body and don't know if taking it on the daily is a good idea!
DietMeth that is fascinating about the rage you experienced. I guess thats one way to express extreme emotion! I have been upset and mad over something very minor on NSI-189, but no rage. I think being anxious can make this worse, so I have always taken it with tianeptine now, at the same time with my breakfast in the morning. That way even when I go up to 30mg it doesn't affect me in a negative way.
Can someone tell me when it is that I am supposed to know that NSI-189 has cured my hippocampal damage? Are we talking about a minimum time frame to take this (eg 6 months) or is it a kind of feeling that I am supposed to get? I feel great now but am afraid if I stop I'll turn into an mess again.
Mind you PRL-8-53 stacks so well with NSI-189 I don't want to stop that either lol. Incidental my exam results have just been released and they are the best I have seen my grades since forever
YES! electronic music is my go-to, and it sounds amazing on NSI.
Orotate is an organic compound. Bipolar patients take carbonate (a metal) in FAR higher doses than 10 mg of li orotate. I have been taking this for nearly a year, with zero side effects but a super chill, calm mind. Li orotate is probably the best supplement i have ever taken, aside from NSI. People taking large amounts of carbonate need to have their blood levels monitored. Does anyone have any experiences or information to share on lithium to shed any light on this?
Edited by Twindaddy37, 05 January 2017 - 10:04 PM.
#4821
Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:23 PM
Has anyone experienced, super irrational, persistent psychotic rage from NSI 189? I recently had someone insult me and talk to me in a manner I didn't appreciate, in front of other people, and I proceeded to obsess over it in a fit of uncontrollable rage, I proceeded to devise several detailed plans for retribution against him, and even consulted with others on ideas for how to get back at him. Normally I'm numb, apathetic, and it's difficult for me to even feel anger from the depression. For the record I would never do anything violent, but I will say I managed to obtain his social security number within an hour of getting back home. It took me over 24 hours to really start coming down from the rage and thirst for vengeance but this is somewhat concerning and I cannot find anyone who has remotely shared this experience with the drug. I was only on piracetam and fish oil at the time aside from the NSI 189, not sure what happened. I completed 15 days at 80mg/day and have some more on the way, but I might have to AT LEAST lower the daily dose if I'm to continue.
I think your dose is too high, but given that dose, and probably the fact that you have been emotionally stunted for a while, i don't think its cause for SUPER alarm. I think its perhaps even reasonable at that high dose- because your emotions are turning back on, and they can be overwhelming when you haven't felt them in a long time. For example, i 'feel' love more, i 'feel" sadness more, anger effects me a little deeper now (when i was angry before i used to internalize it, which is not a good thing) at least your anger is starting to express its self (though in an irrational way). I think like another member said, dial the dose down, and do some deep reflection about your anger feelings, thinking hard about what the appropriate thing to do is- which is to confidently have a candid conversation with that individual and tell them you felt deeply disrespected by the way they talked to you- so that you can grow from the behavior of healthy confrontation and boundary setting, so you don't internalize and let it manifest itself into negative rumination. Take your time on NSI, the feelings will come that your not used to, allow them to sink it without overreacting, and do your best to have a healthy outward response and tell people how you feel, so that you can grow on this substance. Of course if this continues or you wind up taking negative actions or hurt relationships, discontinue the medication. Just my two cents.
Edited by Twindaddy37, 05 January 2017 - 10:29 PM.
#4822
Posted 06 January 2017 - 01:05 AM
Mind you PRL-8-53 stacks so well with NSI-189 I don't want to stop that either lol. Incidental my exam results have just been released and they are the best I have seen my grades since forever
What effects do people notice from PRL & NSI together?
More mood boost/pleasure or just memory?
#4823
Posted 06 January 2017 - 01:12 AM
Has anyone experienced, super irrational, persistent psychotic rage from NSI 189? I recently had someone insult me and talk to me in a manner I didn't appreciate, in front of other people, and I proceeded to obsess over it in a fit of uncontrollable rage, I proceeded to devise several detailed plans for retribution against him, and even consulted with others on ideas for how to get back at him. Normally I'm numb, apathetic, and it's difficult for me to even feel anger from the depression. For the record I would never do anything violent, but I will say I managed to obtain his social security number within an hour of getting back home. It took me over 24 hours to really start coming down from the rage and thirst for vengeance but this is somewhat concerning and I cannot find anyone who has remotely shared this experience with the drug. I was only on piracetam and fish oil at the time aside from the NSI 189, not sure what happened. I completed 15 days at 80mg/day and have some more on the way, but I might have to AT LEAST lower the daily dose if I'm to continue.
I wouldn't call this psychotic, as long as you weren't planning to murder him or anything.. Probably an over reaction and you suddenly having emotional responses has surprised you.
I experienced this on a cycle a couple years ago, watching a woman crying would also make me cry, feeling her sadness & empathy hit me like ive never experienced before, ive never really been the type to feel those emotions.
#4824
Posted 06 January 2017 - 08:53 AM
I have question to drug experts, is there any other type of drugs than ssri for ocd (only intrusive thoughts). I would like to silence my internal mind chatter, but ssri impair my cognitive abilities so far that i am completely useless in work. escitalopram was the best so far, but side effects make it useless.
#4825
Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:37 PM
I have question to drug experts, is there any other type of drugs than ssri for ocd (only intrusive thoughts). I would like to silence my internal mind chatter, but ssri impair my cognitive abilities so far that i am completely useless in work. escitalopram was the best so far, but side effects make it useless.
For intrusive thoughts, hands down the best remedy i have experienced is lithium orotate 10mg at bedtime, its an organic compound, can purchase it off amazon- some drug stores carry it, but not many. For me, it dialed down the volume of intrusive thoughts to unnoticeable, but again this is my experience. And i tried many pharms in the past, from tricyclics to SNRI's (none of those worked, and had horrible side effects). No MD was able to help me ( i spent maybe 6 years trying different meds). When i took matters into my own hands and did my research i wound up fixing all of my problems- however i also have a spiritual practice, meditate, try to focus on others needs other than my own, and a variety of other tools. I believe most perceived mental illnesses can be eliminated with certain supplements, but most importantly a complete "psychic change" will take place in the actions you take, not the pills you take. If your taking those actions then using certain supplements and experimental compounds can be used to further shift your perspective on everything, eliminating the old you.
If anyone likes tianeptine sulfate or wants to try it i have 57, 25mg pills from ceretropic out of 60. I bought it, tried it and did not like it, will let it go for half price including shipping, or else its going in the trash. PM me.
#4826
Posted 07 January 2017 - 08:35 AM
What effects do people notice from PRL & NSI together?More mood boost/pleasure or just memory?
It makes me want to learn, read, research and study. And its enjoyable when I challenge my brain by learning something new. I recently also found it helps with movement - I was on PRL-8-53 for my gymnastics and everything felt so fluid, I only fell once on the parallel bars the entire session LOL
I have question to drug experts, is there any other type of drugs than ssri for ocd (only intrusive thoughts). I would like to silence my internal mind chatter, but ssri impair my cognitive abilities so far that i am completely useless in work. escitalopram was the best so far, but side effects make it useless.
Have you tried methylene blue?
If anyone likes tianeptine sulfate or wants to try it i have 57, 25mg pills from ceretropic out of 60. I bought it, tried it and did not like it, will let it go for half price including shipping, or else its going in the trash. PM me.
I will message you!
#4827
Posted 07 January 2017 - 11:21 PM
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this. I'm a longtime lurker but don't know the etiquette-that said, if you are in possession of NSI 189 and willing to part with it, PM me please.
#4828
Posted 07 January 2017 - 11:26 PM
Hello folks, i have a question.
I have just received and started my NSI-189 trial, day 2 so far. Bought from an european source (one of the main ones available, no names as of now) .
Ive had stomach issues (diahhrea and intestinal discomfort). Is this something common on NSI189? Because it feels extremely serotonergic. Ive had this often on Fluoxetine and almost all the time on Bacopa.
So i've started to wonder if this might not be nsi afterall but simply something else.... How would one have it tested?
NSI got a very unique taste. Once you found one good source you can recognize it by taste, because it has a unique aftertaste, foretaste and maintaste. With this methode you can tell its 100% NSI, but you cant taste tasteless fillers of course. I never had diahrea, but body aches are common and for me lowered blood flow. There are some body problems on it, but without depression you dont focus on them that much.
Yes, if you try the taste a few times you can readily tell if its NSI-189. I could test what you have, sure...
For the member that asked before I still have third party tested NSI-189 at the same price $24-$16/gram depending on the amount.
#4829
Posted 07 January 2017 - 11:28 PM
Hello folks, i have a question.
I have just received and started my NSI-189 trial, day 2 so far. Bought from an european source (one of the main ones available, no names as of now) .
Ive had stomach issues (diahhrea and intestinal discomfort). Is this something common on NSI189? Because it feels extremely serotonergic. Ive had this often on Fluoxetine and almost all the time on Bacopa.
So i've started to wonder if this might not be nsi afterall but simply something else.... How would one have it tested?
NSI got a very unique taste. Once you found one good source you can recognize it by taste, because it has a unique aftertaste, foretaste and maintaste. With this methode you can tell its 100% NSI, but you cant taste tasteless fillers of course. I never had diahrea, but body aches are common and for me lowered blood flow. There are some body problems on it, but without depression you dont focus on them that much.
Yes, if you try the taste a few times you can readily tell if its NSI-189. I could test what you have, sure...
For the member that asked before I still have third party tested NSI-189 at the same price $24-$16/gram depending on the amount.
Please PM me, thank you.
#4830
Posted 09 January 2017 - 12:37 AM
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