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[caliban]

http://www.longecity...izenscientists/

[caliban]

So many people seem interested in C60 science - why not more support for the 'citizen scientist' initiative?

http://www.longecity...izenscientists/

[Andey]

As I understand c60@home's goal is to replicate Baati study.
I dont think that Baati or Moussa done some cheating or fake science with their experiment so I dont see much sense of replicating it.

IMHO People on this subforum are actualy a step ahead of this. We need to understand exact mechanics of C60 effects, pharmokinetic, effective dosage and intake schema, need to know about actual longevity benefits on human (if any) etc.

[caliban]

UPDATE: a software failure, our treasurer away and a generous donation all coincided in the last few days.

In light of those circumstances, other users wanting to donate might have been confused as to whether they were able to. We have therefore increased the donation threshold so that other Members of the community can still show their support if they wish.
Any extra donations received from this point onwards will go towards the Citizen Science project if the team needs extra funding for substantially the same research. If this is not the case, the extra funds will be kept apart from other donations and general LongeCity coffers and put towards other citizen science projects.

[caliban]

To address the criticism above:

Firstly, the paper from Baati et al did contain serious flaws in data presentation that the authors had to admit and retract.
Moreover and perhaps more importantly, any research report paper in science benefits from replication. It could be argued that no purported scientific data can be considered evidence until it has been independently verified. Research with small cohorts, as in this case, are a particular concern.
I don't want to establish a debate between 'two camps' in this: the swapping of anecdotal reports in this sub-forum may attract some very justified scepticism, but also some justified applause, and it definitely has its place at LongeCity.

But I would be deeply concerned if the people so interested in the alleged life extension effects of C60 that they engage in self-experimentation were not also supportive of parallel attempts by the community to generate more objective life extension data in animal models!

Even if you do not 'believe in the C60 hype' - surely the very effort must be inspiring: ordinary people join together to make, in their own ways and in their own spare time, a contribution to scientific life extension research.
This the reason why LongeCity is supporting this and why we want to give others a chance to show their support as well.

[Kevnzworld]

I donated to what I see as a worthwhile endeavor. Anecdotes and personal experiences ( like mine ) are interesting but far from scientific. I hope others that are on this forum will donate too.

[stephen_b]

I see that we are close to reaching our goal. What happens when the $1000 total is reached?

[caliban]

What happens when the $1000 total is reached?

The fundraiser will be closed and funds made available to the team.