C60@home with elderly feline
#31
Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:51 PM
#32
Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:22 PM
Howard
#33
Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:39 PM
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:17 PM
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:41 AM
#36
Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:42 PM
Is he loosing a tooth?
During his last two visits at the doctor's office, they could not find anything obviously wrong with his mouth or teeth. Next time, I am going to ask them to look a little closer.
#37
Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:47 PM
The one close up picture is supposed to show his recent drooling problem. He drools on himself when eating and drinking. Another symptom that makes us think there is something wrong with his mouth or tongue.
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#38
Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:13 PM
At least we have a clear result for short term effects (better than what I had with my mice: gradually very positive response that then disapears). If the long term effects exist indeed and are so robust that they depend little on the animal, I guess we will first get results from mice (my mice who *seem* to be having effects, and the distributed experiment that should be much more robust I hope).So far, C60oo is not a miracle cure after three weeks of treatment
#39
Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:47 PM
Is he loosing a tooth?
During his last two visits at the doctor's office, they could not find anything obviously wrong with his mouth or teeth. Next time, I am going to ask them to look a little closer.
#40
Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:01 PM
Mine had some eating problems a few months ago, then got some antibiotics for a kidney/liver infection and recovered pretty well. We reduced his food and he's lost weight, now he's chasing his tail and other improvised toys. He's become very active. I haven't given him the C60 yet though. Gunna wait until his weight is normalized for a while and might add some other stuff to reduce the chance of age related diseases taking him.
Is he loosing a tooth?
During his last two visits at the doctor's office, they could not find anything obviously wrong with his mouth or teeth. Next time, I am going to ask them to look a little closer.
Great to hear of your cat's recovery. Lynx did not respond very much to antibiotic therapy, even though most of his symptoms and age point to kidney or liver problems.
Lynx got some C60oo again over the last two days. In one of the pictures you can see how he turns his head to the side while eating. He has always been a slow eater but now, since his weight loss problem, he seems to labor even more, turning his head to the side and slowly chewing for many seconds while trying to ingest a small piece of food. I finally convinced the doctor to take a closer look at Lynx's oral cavity/teeth during his next visit.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:30 PM
#42
Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:21 PM
Did the vet check his throat for signs of tumors?
Lynx has an appointment with the doctor for an in depth oral examination this Wednesday. He will have to be sedated which has me a little worried, because he is quite frail.
The good news is that over the last two days he has been eating quite well - as in a higher volume of food - so much so that he might start to gain weight again if he keeps it up (fingers crossed).
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:31 PM
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 11:02 PM
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#45
Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:59 AM
I have been sucessfull in treating a bad case of cat herpies with it.
See Pubmed references here on the anti viral & bacterial etc. effects:
http://www.coconutre...he Evidence.htm
http://coconutoil.com/peer_reviewed/
Signed
Coconutz Pimp!
#46
Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:01 PM
The latest pictures of Lynx. I am splitting up the dose over two days now because the olive oil in the C60oo I have is very high quality and pungent. I don't want Lynx to vomit. So far, C60oo is not a miracle cure after three weeks of treatment (for whatever ails him), but I did not expect it to help in that way too much. It is really just a shot-in-the-dark. Lynx is still eating, but only a little each day.
The one close up picture is supposed to show his recent drooling problem. He drools on himself when eating and drinking. Another symptom that makes us think there is something wrong with his mouth or tongue.
Could Lynx have eaten slug pellets or animals poisoned with them? That results in a lot of drooling.
#47
Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:18 PM
I might try to incorporate cocnut oil. Not so much for the anti-microbial effect, but for increased caloric intake.
I had not heard of slug pellets before. I don't think we have any of them around our house, but I am going to check. Since the illness commenced 6-8 months ago and has been a slow progression, I think poisoning is not too likely, but you never know.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:03 PM
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:38 PM
One thing that change this week was that his eyes started accumulating more mucus. Any thought of whether C60 would cause this? I thought someone ad mentioned that it might have a propensity of building up in the eyes.
Also, I started going with a different feeding schedule (not sure why), I gave him 0.2 ml on Wednesday and another 0.2 ml on Saturday.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:03 AM
My cat is 14 and starting to show signs of disease. In the past the vet has told us they found crystals in his urine, so I suspect he has minor kidney problems. He does not eat much anymore and acts a little funny. I have started giving him 400mg 98% resveratrol (almost daily, or at least when I can get manage to sneak it into his food.)
#51
Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:53 AM
One thing that change this week was that his eyes started accumulating more mucus. Any thought of whether C60 would cause this? I thought someone ad mentioned that it might have a propensity of building up in the eyes.
I can't think of any reason why it would. Maybe a slight infection? I hope Lynx is hanging in there.
#52
Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:37 AM
The C60 has not done anything spectacular for him, but this was just a shot-in-the-dark anyway.
He might not be getting better but it's possible that he may have already passed without the C60. I wish him the best.
#53
Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:05 AM
NB: Herpies is a lipid coated virus.
You have nothing to lose by trying it Mind.
#54
Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:55 AM
This is a good experiment, I hope your cat gets better.
My cat is 14 and starting to show signs of disease. In the past the vet has told us they found crystals in his urine, so I suspect he has minor kidney problems. He does not eat much anymore and acts a little funny. I have started giving him 400mg 98% resveratrol (almost daily, or at least when I can get manage to sneak it into his food.)
IDK the proper dose for a cat, but high dose resv is not good for kidneys. high does resv is actually nephrotoxic.
Edited by prophets, 11 February 2013 - 09:56 AM.
#55
Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:02 PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/21975863
I will certainly stop feeding him resveratrol if it will cause harm. Does anyone else have more insight/links in regards to this? I read that 5 grams induced liver failure in humans with bone marrow cancer, but I think that is an exception
#56
Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:56 PM
One thing that change this week was that his eyes started accumulating more mucus. Any thought of whether C60 would cause this? I thought someone ad mentioned that it might have a propensity of building up in the eyes.
I can't think of any reason why it would. Maybe a slight infection? I hope Lynx is hanging in there.
Most likely it is just gradual deterioration. He is losing his sense of balance as well.
#57
Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:38 PM
hmm, this was on lef.org: "Resveratrol, due to its antioxidant and anti-inflammatory potential, has been utilized in studies to prevent drug-induced kidney damage. The following results were noted when rats, exposed to antibiotic gentamicin, were treated with resveratrol: 1) nephrotoxicity was significantly reduced, 2) more rapid healing of injured kidney tissue was attained, and 3) a dramatic reduction in markers of oxidant injury was observed (Silan 2007). A team of toxicologists in Brazil demonstrated its protective power against cisplatin, the powerful chemotherapy agent responsible for so much drug-induced kidney damage (Do Amaral 2008). Finally, Indian pharmacologists were successful in protecting animal kidneys from damage caused by cyclosporine A (another common chemotherapy and immune suppressant drug) by pre-treating the animals with resveratrol (Chander 2005(b))."
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/21975863
I will certainly stop feeding him resveratrol if it will cause harm. Does anyone else have more insight/links in regards to this? I read that 5 grams induced liver failure in humans with bone marrow cancer, but I think that is an exception
I'd be afraid that resveratrol would possibly do more harm than good in a cat that didn't have sepsis and wasn't getting any potent oxidant drugs like the above. The paper says that in the case of sepsis, resveratrol's mechanism of action is via its action on Reactive Nitrogen Species. (I'd presume ROS as well) If RNS/ROS is also a part of the typical kidney problems of older cats, then that would be something that c60-oo might well be protective of. However, I don't know if typical cat kidney disease has an oxidative component or not.
#58
Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:53 PM
Edited by Adaptogen, 11 February 2013 - 11:54 PM.
#59
Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:58 AM
The human study where 5 grams was associated with kidney problems, was a multiple-myoloma study, where the subjects were also administered velcade, which has toxic side effects of kidney and/or liver failure. Diabetics administered a five gram dose showed no such effect (in Sirtris' study ... the velcade/resveratrol study was by their purchaser, glaxo.) So no conclusion as to toxicity is really possible.Thanks, I will no longer administer him resveratrol. do you think that even a very low dose would not be worth the possible negative effects?
The only other study I recall showing negative kidney effects was in rats administered something like a five gram dose, which is a significant portion of their body weight. Problems were probably mechanical, passing so much reseratrol through the kidneys. I doubt any reasonable or affordable dose of resveratrol will have a negative effect on a feline. Which is not to say it will necessarily help.
It's very painful watching a beloved pet deteriorate with age.
#60
Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:28 AM
I have been looking for a use for this resveratrol anyway, just small doses gave me joint pain. hopefully animals don't experience this negative side effect that many people have reported
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