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[Mind]

Not too much to report in the past week. Lynx's health is about the same. He plods around the house. He has a good appetite. I think he has reached some stability in his infirmity. Since he lost so much weight, was close to death, and is an older cat, I doubt he will recover back to his old self. We are happy that he seems to be "ok" and is not showing any obvious signs of major pain or distress.

Thanks for the suggestion of fasting, however, since this cat almost starved to death (over the course of 3 to 4 months) and hasn't regained hardly any weight, this is probably not a good option.

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Edited by Mind, 11 March 2013 - 06:26 PM.

[Kevnzworld]

Here is my cat. She is almost 19. I bought her in a pet store in the summer of 1994 when she was a kitten. She travels with me between two homes. She seems relatively healthy, except for her hip. I can see that she favors it, and though she can jump...it's with a little difficulty.
I started adding my C60 to her wet food three months ago. I dose her one week on, one week off like me. I'm sure she gets a little more C60 than me per kg, but she's a granny and doesn't have much time left.

My cat

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[Iporuru]

She doesn't look 19

[Mind]

Another week and Lynx is about the same. He shows some slight signs of improvement (attitude and appetite) but he doesn't look all that good due to his drooling and loss of some hair. We clean him every day and mix up special food for him. Sadly, it feels like palliative care. Knowing diseases and cats I would be surprised if he makes it 6 more months, but you never know.

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Edited by Mind, 18 March 2013 - 01:39 PM.

[YOLF]

Anyone know how much KrioRus charges for cat neuro preservation?

[Mind]

I know CI charges between 5 and 10K for pets.

Edited by Mind, 20 March 2013 - 10:04 PM.

[Mind]

We were fairly certain we would not take Lynx to the doctor anymore because we figured his case was probably terminal. Thousands of dollars worth of surgery or other types of high-end treatment was not in the cards. However, He was looking a bit more bloated around his abdomen lately. We thought maybe he was constipated or something, or had some other type of stomach trouble, so we thought we should take him to the doc, in case there was something simple they could do to make him feel better. They gave us some steroidal medication to make his stomach feel better in case the root problem was an inflammatory intestinal disease. More importantly, the doc informed us that he had fluid build up in his abdomen, fluid that is leaking out of his blood vessels (the root of which is something wrong with one of his organs, such as the liver not working properly). Anyway, the doc removed about 400cc of fluid from his abdomen area and he seemed be much more spry and comfortable. He came home and ate about a half can of food. On the negative side, he is still losing weight. He now only weighs about 8 pounds, and that is before they took out all the fluid.

[YOLF]

Holding water is a human disease too. I have alot of people in my family who also have that. Did they say what organ causes it for sure?

[Mind]

Lynx made it another week and took his usual bi-weekly doses of C60oo. No changes to report. He is in very poor shape/health but still has a decent appetite and doesn't seem to be in pain/suffering.

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[YOLF]

Good to hear that he's still hanging on.

[Mind]

The end was today.

What made the decision difficult (and is such a tragedy to see in older humans as well) was that cognitively, Lynx was the same cat. He had the same personality, mannerisms, and attitude as when he was healthy. Unfortunately, as was detailed in this thread, his body was failing due to a disease that remains unknown. The final sign that helped us with the decision was his losing control and having difficulty with bowel movements. He would alternate between hard and loose stools. Because of his very weak muscles, he could not keep the loose stool in and couldn't get the harder stool out. A large stool was stuck through the night last night and he started bleeding around that area, leaving red splotches all over the floor. We removed the stool which made him feel much better, but we decided that this was probably the time. He was not suffering in pain for the last few months (just tired and probably feeling kind-of ill most of the time), but the writing was on the wall that he would probably suffer more in the future.

C60oo was of course a shot in the dark, but we figured, why not take a chance. At some point in the last month or so I started feeding our oldest cat Conan (14 years) C60oo and I think I will continue that supplementation.

Like with any person or pet, my thoughts immediately wander to - why don't we have the medicine or technology yet - why don't we have any cures? I hate that feeling of helplessness, but it helps motivate me to contribute here at LongeCity and raise money for research. I implore everyone to save a couple dollars to contribute to LongeCity research later this year!

I have attached some pictures of Lynx as a younger more vibrant feline.

RIP Lynx.

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[niner]

I'm sorry to hear that, Mind. It sounds like you made the right decision. I hope you guys are doing ok.

[Mind]

We are sad, but ok. Losing a pet is of course difficult. Since we don't have children, we grow a little more attached to our cats.

[YOLF]

Rest In Peace,
such wishful thinking
for we who lost them, and
for the dead who lost us
Who is at peace with loss
with death, with aging,
leaving the joys of life
known or unknown behind
In death we only disappoint
those who dead wishing before us
that we might live
with death just a choice
aging/suffering nevermore

Let us not rest until death is ours to take
let us be at peace when we will not die
til then, aging is war against death
shoulder to shoulder let us stand or hang in chill
til death and his emissaries are gone or conquered
Live to live, not to die
live to save, not sooth the dieing
In all that we do and all that we are

Accept no pretense for our goal
and let not another live to die

[sthira]

:-(

I'm sorry. But it sounds like you made the right decision even though it was very painful.

[MrHappy]

Here is my cat. She is almost 19. I bought her in a pet store in the summer of 1994 when she was a kitten. She travels with me between two homes. She seems relatively healthy, except for her hip. I can see that she favors it, and though she can jump...it's with a little difficulty.
I started adding my C60 to her wet food three months ago. I dose her one week on, one week off like me. I'm sure she gets a little more C60 than me per kg, but she's a granny and doesn't have much time left.My cat

Doesn't allometric scaling apply here, anyway?

The end was today.

What made the decision difficult (and is such a tragedy to see in older humans as well) was that cognitively, Lynx was the same cat. He had the same personality, mannerisms, and attitude as when he was healthy. Unfortunately, as was detailed in this thread, his body was failing due to a disease that remains unknown. The final sign that helped us with the decision was his losing control and having difficulty with bowel movements. He would alternate between hard and loose stools. Because of his very weak muscles, he could not keep the loose stool in and couldn't get the harder stool out. A large stool was stuck through the night last night and he started bleeding around that area, leaving red splotches all over the floor. We removed the stool which made him feel much better, but we decided that this was probably the time. He was not suffering in pain for the last few months (just tired and probably feeling kind-of ill most of the time), but the writing was on the wall that he would probably suffer more in the future.

C60oo was of course a shot in the dark, but we figured, why not take a chance. At some point in the last month or so I started feeding our oldest cat Conan (14 years) C60oo and I think I will continue that supplementation.

Like with any person or pet, my thoughts immediately wander to - why don't we have the medicine or technology yet - why don't we have any cures? I hate that feeling of helplessness, but it helps motivate me to contribute here at LongeCity and raise money for research. I implore everyone to save a couple dollars to contribute to LongeCity research later this year!

I have attached some pictures of Lynx as a younger more vibrant feline.

RIP Lynx.

Sorry, mate... RIP, Lynx. :(

[pleb]

Hi mind, Sorry to hear about lynx, it is sad when it happens and we can't do anything about it, they do become members of the family even when you have kids, I've had the same with both dogs and cats who have led a long life and been in the same position as you and your wife, you have my commiserations,

[Logic]

My condolences Mind. I hope you will keep us updated on Conan's C60 'experience' and that others will post with their cats.

[hav]

So sorry to hear of your loss, Mind. I 2nd Logic's encouragement that you continue to report on Conan. And hope that Conan will be with us into longevity.

Howard

[Mind]

Thanks for all the kind words everyone. It means a lot to me. I will keep everyone up to date on Conan.

[YOLF]

Can you give us an introduction? I don't think we've seen any pics of Conan yet.

[Mind]

Conan is doing well. 14 years old. No sign of disease. He started getting a little C60oo during Lynx's treatment. He now gets about 1.5 ml twice a week.

the only thing that has me slightly worried about Conan is that he is quite thin. I has not been a rapid weight loss, but he has probably lost 2 to 3 pounds over the last 3 years. As of now, the doctor and I just chalk it up to aging.

[Saintless]

Any update on Conan or any cats in this thread? I am considering giving my healthy 14 year old cats a dose of c60.

Edited by Saintless, 24 October 2015 - 04:05 AM.

[Mind]

Peter's cat is still alive at 18. Conan is approaching 17 and still in fair health. He is thin and has lost a little bit of balance, but otherwise okay. I am going to give him a few doses of C60 in the coming year. Not sure that it will do much good, but it is cheap and there is at least some theoretical reasons why the compound might be helpful.

Edited by Mind, 26 October 2015 - 08:17 PM.