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[platypus]

There are no unknowns from this view, everything relevant is calculable.. 

Got a reference for that?

[Julia36]

QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY.

How Science is trying to resurrect the dead.


Micro Map of the past being created.

• Quantum computers and new maths to calculate detailed histories and memories of everyone dead.
• Face and body reconstructions a million years old already achieved: mind reconstructions coming.
• 106 billion people to be resurrected within 40 years.

• A Child's Guide to Quantum Archaeology (300 words) <~ start here!!!
• Short version (3,000 words)

• The Quantum Archaeology Grid

• Recursive Civilization

• XYLEM

• Turing Church Workshop Paper

MAIN ARTICLE:~~>(working: Nine pages)
QuantumArchaeology




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There are no unknowns from this view, everything relevant is calculable.. 

Got a reference for that?

 

 

It's  one philosophical position in science. If anything is capable of existance it must be connected to other things - or you could only conjecture and not prove it existed.

 

"Proposition 7

As the last line in the book, proposition 7 has no supplementary propositions. It ends the book with the proposition "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent." („Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen.“)"

 

http://en.wikipedia....s#Proposition_7

 

Further I am not required to prove it in qrguement but you to prove something exists that is not knowable:) Good luck!

 

We accelerate in mapping predicting, building, discovery, retrodiction, in cosmology and the microworld, ever smaller ever bigger ever more accurate, and more intelligent (problem solving).

 

At some stage we will have enough complexity and accuracy to resurrect individuals not just the 14 extinct species we have achieved (2014). Models of the past anmd future will get increasingly accurate.

 

At some point -  posssibly within 20 years on trends -  we will pass measurement and reconstruction sizes for any dead humans, memories an' all.

 

Astronomical Supercomputer Crosses Petascale Divide

"One of the biggest benefits of the inexorable push toward exascale computing is a coming age of more affordable petascale systems. This trend can already be seen as science centers around the world crest this important barrier. One of the latest to do so is the Center for Computational Astrophysics (CfCA) of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan (NAOJ), which recently announced a major upgrade to its Cray XC30 system, called “ATERUI.” With beefed-up Intel CPUs under the hood, ATERUI’s theoretical peak performance shot up from 502 teraflops to 1.058 petaflops, doubling its speed and enabling researchers to tackle ever bigger questions about the universe and space." >>>

 

 

2015 will be the year of the robot and there are already moves aproaching it:

 

http://www.dailymail...inted-food.html

 

 

 

http://www.psfk.com/...r-just-999.html

 

Developed by RoboDynamics and design studio SchultzeWORKS, Luna is 5 feet tall, weighs 60 pounds, can navigate flat surfaces on her own (like similarly sized follow-bots), and has position-able metal arms. She’s also equipped with a capacitive touchscreen and a hi-def camera, among other features, but RoboDynamics CEO Fred Nikgohar stresses that her simple design is meant to enable owners and developers to customize Luna and create any number of new uses for her.

 

 

“She is a powerful platform capable of an increasing universe of apps and services through an app store model,” Nikgohar explained. Luna bots will be sporting Mini-ITX motherboards, dual core X86 CPUs, 8GB of RAM, 16GB SSD in storage, and 802.11n WiFi connectivity, and is compatible with any number of off-the-shelf upgrades and add-ons. Since her software consists of Linux Ubuntu and ROS (the “de facto OS” for robotics), Luna will be an open-source tool for owners and robotics enthusiasts alike. Nikgohar continued," MORE

 

 

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[Julia36]

http://news.hamlethu...aman-1418759784

Bestselling author E.J. Simon says not only will artificial intelligence displace humans in the workplace, and roboticize warfare as referenced in today’s New York Times, but asserts that artificial intelligence challenges the very role church plays in our life – namely, the afterlife.

[Julia36]

Past being mapped with increasing dexterity

 

 

Modern Genetics Confirm Ancient Relationship Between Fins and Hands

 

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Efforts to connect the evolutionary transition from fish fins to wrist and fingers with the genetic machinery for this adaptation have fallen short because they focused on the wrong fish. Now, researchers describe the genetic machinery for autopod assembly in a non-model fish, the spotted gar." more

 

device to speed swimming.

 

 

 

 

 

The Year in Robots (2014)

 

"At the end of every year in recent memory, it seems, high-tech optimists have predicted the next year as the one when robots will finally lift from our shoulders the burden of dreary domestic tasks.

Think washing floors, scrubbing the grill, cutting the lawn, watering plants, changing cat litter, vacuuming the carpet - and, for good measure, pacifying the baby and entertaining the older children.

That was certainly the case at the close of 2013, said Dan Kara, a robotics analyst with ABI Research. "This was supposed to be the year where everything was going to be different," Kara said. "Again."

And while that home-robotics revolution didn't exactly come to fruition this year, Kara said a handful of interesting robotic debuts in 2014 brought consumers one step closer to the chore-free home of the future.

That sentiment was echoed by two others who closely follow the consumer robotics industry: Erico Guizzo, editor of the Automaton blog of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, and Andra Keay, managing director of Silicon Valley Robotics, an industry group. Based on recommendations from these specialists, as well as some firsthand tests, here are 10 notable robots that made their debut this year.

Neato Botvac
Vacuums constitute" more>>

 

http://gadgets.ndtv....n-robots-639679

 

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[Julia36]

http://www.cnet.com/...ch-at-ces-2015/

 

CES 2015 January

 

"International CES, more commonly known as the Consumer Electronics Show (CES), is an internationally renowned electronics and technology trade show, attracting major companies and industry professionals worldwide. The annual show is held each January at the Las Vegas Convention Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, United States. Not open to the public, the Consumer Electronics Association-sponsored show typically hosts previews of products and new product announcements."

 

http://en.wikipedia....lectronics_Show

 

 

 

 

Researchers have cracked the code of how hair growth is activated

 

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz3MuLcHZZM
 

 

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[Julia36]

Woods Hole to receive $5 million to build a better water robot

 

 

 

[Julia36]

 

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[Julia36]

 

http://www.inventionsforsale.com/

 

Invention Listings

New Listings

Virtual Prototypes

Automotive/Aircraft/Transport

Beauty

Construction/Home Improvement

Food & Beverage

Games & Toys

Health

Household

Industry Specific Devices

Medical

Security and Safety

Sports & Recreation

Educational

Adult

 

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[platypus]

No reference given. 

[Julia36]

No reference given. 

 

Ur probably winding me up, but to reiterate...in this model there can be no knowns in a a successful simulation eg of the universe, as it's a closed ssytem.

 

When you bake a cake you dont concern yourself with the quantum world but only the relevant scale and enouigh of the ingrediants and condition to make a simulation of a previous cake.

So with resurrecting men. When we have enough of the recipie for a given person to attest he is the same as th dead one, he has resurrected.

 

 

 

Other than that:

 

 

 

http://www.ibm.com/s...s/en/ibmwatson/

 

http://plato.stanfor...u/contents.html

 

or could you explain what you mean?

 

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The Year in Robots 10 Home Robots to Lighten Your Domestic Chores

"At the end of every year in recent memory, it seems, high-tech optimists have predicted the next year as the one when robots will finally lift from our shoulders the burden of dreary domestic tasks."

 

http://www.nytimes.c...tic-chores.html

 

 

see esp the state of legs Shadowrobots (uk)

 

 

 

We need a general purpose domestic robot that flies. shops etc That cant be far away and may come before 2020

 

COMING:

 

http://www-robotics....36&tdaID=700043

 

 

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[Julia36]

Speech Recognition Better Than a Human's Exists.

 

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Schalkwyk (pronounced "skulk-vick," though Siri calls him "shaw-quick") is working on an ambitious research project at Google to create speech systems that plug into the company's vast amounts of data. A project currently being tested in the lab allows computers to hear and essentially "think" about what people say into Google's digital ear, Schalkwyk says.

Recent inventions in the field of speech and machine learning should lead to major changes in how we murmur, shout, question and interrogate our devices. One of the brains behind Siri says engineers are feverishly working toward speech recognition that's smart enough to engage in authentic conversations with users. "All areas of spoken language understanding have made a lot of progress," says William Mark, a vice president at SRI International, which developed the fundamental technology behind Siri before it was acquired by Apple. "This kind of conversational interaction is where the leading edge is right now."

Tim Tuttle has been waiting a long time for this. " MORE>>

 

http://www.bloomberg...use-it-yet.html

 

One of best about:

 

 

try it:

 

http://www.cleverbot.com/

 

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[Julia36]

Migration to Europe earlier than thought

 

The past cant stay hidden, whether it is artefacts or human minds.

 

 

 

 

"Anatolia lies at the gateway from Asia into Europe and has frequently been favoured as a route for Early Pleistocene hominin dispersal. Although early hominins are known to have occupied Turkey, with numerous finds of Lower Palaeolithic artefacts documented, the chronology of their dispersal has little reliable stratigraphical or geochronological constraint, sites are rare, and the region's hominin history remains poorly understood as a result. Here, we present a Palaeolithic artefact, a hard-hammer flake, from fluvial sediments associated with the Early Pleistocene Gediz River of Western Turkey. This previously documented buried river terrace sequence provides a clear stratigraphical context for the find and affords opportunities for independent age estimation using the numerous basaltic lava flows that emanated from nearby volcanic necks and aperiodically encroached onto the contemporary valley floors. New ⁴⁰Ar/³⁹Ar age estimates from these flows are reported here which, together with palaeomagnetic measurements, allow a tightly-constrained chronology for the artefact-bearing sediments to be established. These results suggest that hominin occupation of the valley occurred within a time period spanning ∼1.24 Ma to ∼1.17 Ma, making this the earliest, securely-dated, record of hominin occupation in Anatolia."

 

paper:http://www.sciencedi...277379114004818

 

 

[platypus]

You stated "There are no unknowns from this view, everything relevant is calculable." without a shred of evidence to back up your claim. Can you even list what the "relevant" things are and why they are calculable? 

[Julia36]

You stated "There are no unknowns from this view, everything relevant is calculable." without a shred of evidence to back up your claim. Can you even list what the "relevant" things are and why they are calculable? 

 

1 What evidence would satisfy you?

 

 

The model I am using in QA is that the universe is describable by the laws of physics, and that future computing  will someday be great enough to calculate history in enough detail to describe anyone dead. With that description future technology should be able to build them again.

 

In this model everything relevant to resurrecting a person can be reached by calculation, and relevant sizes within calculation descriptions. There are no unknowns

since limits to scales are set by sizes of people.

 

 

It is unphilosophical to argue there are unknowns which will prevent this, since they logically cannot be stated nor debated. That does not mean we know everything about the world, just that we will cross a trajectory of necessary information vs  hypercomputation, and that on trend lines that should be in under 30 years:

 

 

 

Complexity of calculations increases as amounts of unknowns falls thru time.

At intersection point enough knowledge to resurrect is achieved.

 

 

The universe had a beginning in this view, and anything that can be said to exist is necessarily connected to other things.

The unknowns I refer to are unknowns about the composition of persons dead ie their complete bodies @ time of 'death'. It seems reasonable to me to think archaeology will drastically improve by many factors, and everything that is necessary to chart out a man will be calculable.

 

The simulation argument suggests the entire universe may be a closed system and presumably everything in it known or calculable (ie a form of being known).

 

Or what part of a person is outside future description?

 

2. Science has to proceed on the basis that the system is closed and complete.

The relevant bits are knowable by calculation. If your challenge succeeded, no prescription could ever be made up!

 

I still dont know whether you're joking...

 

I think this is where you are - or I dont understand you:

 

Argument from ignorance - Wiki

 

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[Julia36]

Miniaturisation thru time eg:

 

 

Although there are bumps in a true graph as new paradigms of calculation are discovered, calculation capability is increasing thru time.

 

 

Computer trends will hit simulation capability for resurrection at some stage. When a good enough simulation is achieved, technology will also have developed micro robots to physically build dead people back to life. Their development will be increasing driven by security needs and science:

 

 

 

 

 

Get ready for computers of the future


"Experts expect multiple computing device-level technologies in the future, rather than one dominant architecture. About a dozen possible next-generation candidates exist, including tunnel FETs (field effect transistors, in which the output current is controlled by a variable electric field), carbon nanotubes, superconductors and fundamentally new approaches, such as quantum computing and brain-inspired computing." more>>

http://www.scienceda...40529142030.htm

 

Simulations becoming more accurate:

 

Sotra Facula, Titan

Based on data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft, this image shows an area of Saturn's moon Titan, known as Sotra Facula. Scientists believe Sotra is the best case for a cryovolcano, or ice volcano. The flyover shows two peaks more than 3,000 feet (about 1,000 meters) tall and multiple craters as deep as 5,000 feet (1,500 meters). The image also shows finger-like flows, which also indicate the presence cryovolcanism.

The 3-D topography comes from Cassini's radar instrument. Topography has been vertically exaggerated by a factor of 10. The false color in the initial frames shows different compositions of surface material as detected by Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer. In this color scheme, dunes tend to look relatively brown-blue. Blue suggests the presence of some exposed ice. Scientists think the bright areas have an organic coating that hides the ice and is different and lighter than the dunes. The finger-like flows appear bright yellowish-white, like the mountain and caldera. The second set of colors shows elevation, with blue being lowest and yellow and white being the highest. Dunes here appear blue because they tend to occupy low areas. The finger-like flows are harder to see in the elevation data, indicating that they are thin, maybe less than about 300 feet (about 100 meters) thick.

 

 

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[Julia36]

 

6 Amazing Videos From The Olympus Microscopy Competition

http://www.popsci.co...opy-competition

 

 

 

The hunt is on to conquer size, and size is also depicted by calculation (as simulation)

 

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[Julia36]

Edited by stopgam, 26 December 2014 - 01:39 PM.

[Julia36]

Big Maths Breakthrough

 

the more maths we have the less computing we can need.

 

http://phys.org/news...conjecture.html

 

 

"Monstrous moonshine relates distinguished modular functions to the representation theory of the monster. The celebrated observations that 196884=1+196883 and 21493760=1+196883+21296876, etc., illustrate the case of the modular function j-744, whose coefficients turn out to be sums of the dimensions of the 194 irreducible representations of the monster. Such formulas are dictated by the structure of the graded monstrous moonshine modules. Recent works in moonshine suggest deep relations between number theory and physics. Number theoretic Kloosterman sums have reappeared in quantum gravity, and mock modular forms have emerged as candidates for the computation of black hole degeneracies. This paper is a survey of past and present research on moonshine. We also obtain exact formulas for the multiplicities of the irreducible components of the moonshine modules. These formulas imply that such multiplicities are asymptotically proportional to dimensions."

 

 

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neural networks equalling human capacities

 

 

Newest computer neural networks can identify visual objects as well as the primate brain


http://phys.org/news...mate-brain.html
 

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[Julia36]

 

The Celts

 

 

[A941]

@stopgam

Do you think the Simulation Argument by Nick Bostrom could be "reality"?

[Julia36]

@A941

season's greetings.

No, because there's no evidence we're in a simulation. But the future will be stranger than we can conceptualize: it's a possibility. It would need to be a testable hypothesis for me.

 

Science is speeding. An article like todays would be world headlines 10 years ago:

 

Sperm and eggs made from skin

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail...-treatment.html

[Julia36]

http://singularityhub.com/

"Coming Data Deluge Means You’ll Know Anything You Want, Anytime, Anywhere

"http://singularityhu...ytime-anywhere/

 

We’re heading towards a world of perfect knowledge.

Soon you’ll be able to know anything you want, anytime, anywhere, and query that data for answers and insights.

Why is this happening? And what are the implications? These are the questions this blog will explore."  more

 

 

 

[Julia36]

How electrons split

 

 

http://www.scienceda...41223114227.htm

 

"Electrons split into electrical charge and magnetic moment in a two-dimensional model, a study has shown for the first time."

 

As we map out the world and speed computing science and maths, we will at some point have enough information to raise the dead. All of them.

 

Diet of Extinct Animals being reconfigured

Paraceratherium

 

Dec. 22, 2014 — A study of tooth enamel in mammals living today in the equatorial forest of Gabon could ultimately shed light on the diet of long extinct animals, according to new research."

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A.I. is needed to deal with data growth.

 

less than 1% of the world's data is analysed

2012  article

 

http://www.theguardi...e-global-volume

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[Julia36]

World Community Grid

 

"Community Grid (WCG) is an effort to create the world's largest public computing grid to tackle scientific research projects that benefit humanity.^[3] Launched on November 16, 2004, it is co-ordinated by IBM with client software currently available for Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, and Android operating systems.^[4][5][6]

Using the idle time of computers around the world, World Community Grid's research projects have analyzed aspects of the human genome, HIV, dengue, muscular dystrophy, cancer, influenza, Ebola, virtual screening, rice crop yields, and clean energy. As of October 2014, the organization has partnered with 466 other companies and organizations to assist in its work, and has over 65,000 active registered users." wiki

 

Way fopreward is via ISPs not left to charity of owners...

 

How to help find a cure for Ebola from the comfort of your home

Read more at http://national.dese...vuRQH6XHCzjr.99

 

"World Community Grid

Thanks to 21st century computer technology, people don't need a Ph.D. to help find a cure for Ebola.

The "Outsmart Ebola Together" project, designed by the Scripps Research Institute and hosted by IBM's World Community Grid, allows everyday men and women to donate the computing power of their laptops, smartphones and tablets to screen the millions of chemical compounds with the potential to fight the disease.

"By installing a simple, yet safe, program, the Scripps Research Institute will use your computer as part of an overall virtual supercomputer to work faster and more efficiently at finding the cure," Tech Times reported. The screening could save years of laboratory work."

 

 

 

 

 

[Julia36]

 Moltke (born 1800) speaks from the grave

edis-05-tenhp_edison_c_E-5777_edis-93951_20110415.mp3

 

 

site:

 

http://www.nps.gov/e...-recordings.htm

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[Julia36]

Moscow State University to cryogenically freeze DNA of EVERY creature

"Viktor Sadivnichy, the university's rector, likened the gigantic project to a modern-day 'Noah's Ark', RT reported.

He explained: 'It will involve the creation of a depository - a databank for the storing of every living thing on Earth, including not only living, but disappearing and distinct organisms.

'It will also contain information systems. If it's realised, this will be a leap in Russian history as the first nation to create an actual Noah's Ark of sorts.'

 

 http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz3N8q6RTPf
 

[Julia36]

Live Synapse Observed close up

 

 

http://www.kurzweila...#comment-250537

 

"scientists Aurélie Pala and Carl Petersen have observed and measured synaptic transmission in a live animal for the first time, using optogenetics* to stimulate single neurons in the mouse barrel cortex "

 

 

Pala A, Petersen CCH. In Vivo Measurement of Cell-Type-Specific Synaptic Connectivity and Synaptic Transmission in Layer 2/3 Mouse Barrel Cortex. Neuron (2015) (open access)

 

Uses of the brain (short)

 

 

 

How machine learning and image recognition could revolutionise search

 

"Text in documents is easy to search, but there's a lot of information in other formats. Voice recognition turns audio – and video soundtracks – into text you can index and search. But what about the video itself, or other images?

Searching for images on the web would be a lot more accurate if instead of just looking for text on the page or in the caption that suggests a picture is relevant, the search engine could actually recognise what was in the picture. Thanks to machine learning techniques using neural networks and deep learning, that's becoming more achievable." more

 

 

http://www.techradar...ch-1277547#null

 

Human innovation must shortly be passed by A.I.s

 

 

 

 

A.I. painting: 2012

 

 

http://www.dailymail...es-creator.html

 

Edited by stopgam, 28 December 2014 - 10:31 AM.

[Julia36]

World's largest diagnostic sequencing program

 

How the program works

The DDD began in 2010 and is a collaboration between the British National Health Service (NHS) and the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute - a charitable foundation that supports medical research. Funding for the project is provided by the Wellcome Trust and the British Department of Health.

Involving 180 clinicians from 24 different regional genetics services, the DDD project has so far comprehensively analyzed every gene in 1,133 children with rare developmental disorders. All the clinical information for these participants is compiled into a database alongside the genetic variants from each patient's genome.

The database allows the researchers to compare data for patients who live hundreds of miles apart. If patients with similar symptoms are found to have similar genomic mutations, the search for causative mutations for certain disorders becomes more focused."

 

http://www.medicalne...cles/287387.php

 

it is hoped all known diseases and illnesses can be understood and cures or interventions found, using accelerating computer facilities.

[Julia36]

male gene  linked to longevity

 

Scientists suggest a male gene may be linked to longevity and the male Y chromosome may have a role prolonging men’s lives, but also fighting cancer.

The study

Research into 1,153 elderly men at the University of Sweden found those who had lost part of their Y chromosome died on average 5.5 years earlier than those who had not.

Women live on average 7.5 years longer than men in Europe and the reasons behind this are not fully known although it has been common thought that women tend to look after their health better and take less risks, aiding their longevity.

Scientists assessed how many blood cells had age-related loss of the Y chromosome (LOY) through blood tests in the men, aged between 70 and 84.

 

http://www.longevity...nked-longevity/

 

Researchers take 'first baby step' toward anti-aging drug

 

"Researchers could be closing in on a "fountain of youth" drug that can delay the effects of aging and improve the health of older adults, a new study suggests.

...

 

 

The study is a "watershed" moment for research into the health effects of aging, said Dr. Nir Barzilai, director of the Institute for Aging Research at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City.

 

Rapamycin belongs to a class of drugs known as mTOR inhibitors, which have been shown to counteract aging and aging-related diseases in mice and other animals.

Barzilai, who wasn't involved in the study, said this is one of the first studies to show that these drugs also can delay the effects of aging in humans."

 

http://medicalxpress...aging-drug.html

 

We dont know and cant log the complexities of how a human being works.

 

 

 

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[Julia36]

Age of Robots dawns

 

http://gizmodo.com/w...hina-1675547398

 

What the future of robots could look like

 

http://edition.cnn.c...ft-robots-care/

 

 

Edited by stopgam, 28 December 2014 - 04:05 PM.