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#391 Julia36

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 03:16 PM

"Big data[1][2] is a collection of data sets so large and complex that it becomes difficult to process using on-hand database management tools or traditional data processing applications."

this is impossible for men, but obviously isn't impossibloe for Nature as they exist in teh first place.

Machine Intelligence is zooming ahead and in teh 2020's by trend graphs, we shoud have enough skill to manipulate any amount of data required

including doing simulations of the whole universe-



Quantum computers need to get their errors reduced and this is happening and expected to be efficient by 2022 (ibm)

Simulations of major parts of earth's history shoud be possible with them.

(Super-recursive algorithms may out-perform quantum computers)

The power of quantum computers

"It can be very difficult to take a large number and find all its prime factors. This integer factorization problem is believed to be difficult for an ordinary computer. A quantum computer could solve this problem very quickly. If a number has n bits (is n digits long when written in the binary numeral system), then a quantum computer with just over 2n qubits can find its factors. It can also solve a related problem called the discrete log problem. This ability would allow a quantum computer to break many of the cryptographic systems in use today. In particular, most of the popular public key ciphers could be quickly broken, including forms of RSA, ElGamal and Diffie-Hellman. These are used to protect secure Web pages, encrypted email, and many other types of data. Breaking these would be significant. The only way to make an algorithm like RSA secure would be to make the key size larger than the largest quantum computer that can be built. It seems likely that it will always be possible to build classical computers that have more bits than the number of qubits in the largest quantum computer. If that's true, then algorithms like RSA could be made secure.
If a quantum computer were based on the protons and neutrons in a molecule, it might be too small to see, but could factor integers with many thousands of bits. A classical computer running known algorithms could also factor those integers. But to do it before the sun burns out, it would have to be larger than the known universe. That would be somewhat inconvenient to build.
Perhaps not as surprisingly, quantum computers could also be useful for running simulations of quantum mechanics. The speedup could be just as large as for factoring. This could be of great practical benefit to many physicists.
This dramatic advantage of quantum computers is currently known to exist for only those three problems: factoring, discrete log, and quantum physics simulations. However, there is no proof that the advantage is real: an equally fast classical algorithm may still be discovered (though this is considered unlikely). There is one other problem where quantum computers have a smaller, though significant (quadratic) advantage. It is quantum database search, and can be solved by Grover's algorithm. In this case the advantage is provable. This establishes beyond doubt that (ideal) quantum computers are superior to classical computers."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pktWhH6m_DM



So in the physcis that we know, there are TWO physics sets.

Classical and Quantum

Quantum Archaeology accommodates BOTH.


I suspect there will be a causal underneath to quantum realities and we're loking at complexity on a massive scale, but I dont know.

It doesn't matter in the resurrection of the dead since we'll use classical physics down to 100 nanometres then quantum phsycis in the Planck scale

But its maths (computation is mechanical maths) all the way.

The physics need systhesiing: (the're in conflict) and obviously large things reduce to smal things, and vice versa.


Simple explanation:

Quantum Archaeology

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 03:30 PM

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 03:43 PM

You have to BREAK THE SEAL OF DEATH....



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- which was an illusion in the first place -

It's bonkers to believe we wont eventually be able to reconstruct the past with growing computer capacity!

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QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY.

The emerging science of resurrecting the dead.




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"What can be described can also happen."

Wittgenstein.


"All great truths begin as blasphemies."

George Bernard Shaw.




Quantum Archaeology is a proposed science of resurrecting the dead. It anticipates coming process technologies that accelerate science and technology. It assumes the universe is made of events and the laws that govern them, and seeks to make maps of brain/body states at the instant of death for every being in history. Then give them back their bodies, healthier and better. Living beings are seen as data sets that can be worked out by statistics and mathematics and plotted on a four dimensioned grid.


Facial reconstructions from scavenged DNA in public places have been presented at the Smithsonian, and functional parts of life-forms extinct for hundreds of millions of years have been resurrected in evolutionary biology. There is an underlying genetic unity in the whole kingdom of living things, making archaeology down to the smallest needed scale easier, and tackelable from many different perspectives.


De-extinction projects to resurrect generic groups of Neanderthals, mammoths,..............




More See:
Quantum Archaeology




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Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:10 PM

Daily Mail today: example of everything in the world is describable in mathematics

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Plants perform complex mathematical equations throughout the night

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/482097/20130623/plants-science-maths-equations.htm

#395 Julia36

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 05:23 PM

Hmm, sounds like you have no idea of technological constraints, which makes you ignorant about technology in general. BTW this is not an ad hominem attack .


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"Cant you see it...Everyone frozen is going to be eaten!"

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#396 Julia36

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 05:28 PM

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#397 Julia36

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 10:53 PM

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We're hypnotized by death-ism.

Man is data and can can be reconstructed like any other data set for any point in history
that has space-time co-ordinates.


CONFIGURING THE BRAIN

The Human Brain Project (H Markram) is the maost advanced but others are atempting it.

The most detailed brain grid out last wqeek:

"Katrin Amunts of the Jülich Research Centre in Germany and her colleagues embedded a 65-year old woman's brain in wax, sliced it into more than 7400 sections each 20 micrometres thick – one-fifth of the width of a human hair – and made digital images of the slices, also at a resolution of 20 micrometres."


Mapping the brain: 3D atlas aims to unlock the secrets of the mind

The atlas will give scientists unprecedented insights into brain structures that underlie cognition, language, ageing and disease


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Link to video: BigBrain project creates 3D animation of human brain

Tp Resurrect the Dead we need

1/ Proto brain (startmng models)

2. DNA (derivable from the Tree pf Life

3. Calculation power.

4. The laws of Physics


Then we construct histories using the many Records bases,
constructing the environments in history

The world is data, and itls calculable given these.

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Unimaginably complex to men, machine intelligences are being constructed that will do sums beynd what we thought possible.

We aim to resurrect not only species, but living individuals with their memories intact

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:03 PM

The ACCELERTATION of maths as computing is really hard top get intuitively.

And it;s not going to stay the same its accelerating on an acceleration because of convergence of technologies.

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"Co-processors and accelerators are increasingly gaining momentum among HPC sites, with the proportion of sites employing co-processors or accelerators leaping from 28.2% in 2011 to 96.9% in 2013. Intel Xeon Phi co-processors and NVIDIA GPUs were the most popular, with FPGAs a close third. "

http://www.information-age.com


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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:27 PM

Google Sky

is mapping the heavens


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GDELT:


GDELT: Global Data on Events, Location and Tone

GDELT is a new CAMEO-coded data set containing more than 200-million geolocated events with global coverage for 1979 to the present. The primary author is Kalev Leetaru at the University of Illinois Graduate School of Library and Information Science. The data are based on a variety of international news sources coded using the TABARI system for events and additional software for location and tone and is updated daily. The active site is here
Links

Well, can't say we are at the lolcats level, but GDELT is beginning to go viral. Here are some LinksPlease send any other suggestions to schrodt@psu.edu: no guarantees that this will be completely up to date but I will try.


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THe path for data is UP

More complex, better retrodiction, and superior detail.


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IF YOU GET FROZEN~~~GO ARMED

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#400 Julia36

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:47 PM

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its but a matter of recording data from one moment to the next, and expressing it as a simulation: presently in 2D, our simulations are already prototyping in 3D (holograms) due in mobile phones next year.

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Then using the laws of phsyics, configure the events into the past, cross-checking with the Records in archaeology, geology, biology etc

More>>>

Quantum Archaeology

#401 Julia36

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 11:55 PM

From the naked eye, to the invention of
Aristophanes' "lens", from 424 BC, a glass globe filled with water

magnifying glass 13th century (Roger Bacon)

spectacles (1284

the microscope (1590)

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the ultramicroscope (nobel prize 1925)

the phase contrast microscope (1930)

electron microscope (1931)

to the scanning tunnelling microscope(1981)

the atomic force microscope (1986)

STED microscopy (1994)

AC-STEM (2012)

electron holograph (2012)
3D Microscope micron-scale spatial light modulator (SLM)

2013 (complexity advances)


The history of science has been the increasing mastery of observational scale measurement. This trend of diminishing scale will surely continue.




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What looks so small to us we can only predict it probabilisticaly...like a members of a footbal crowd

Is exiting by the laws opf [physics and has parametres, form and interactions.

This cannot be chucked away because of brilliant success in probability statistics.

QA doesn't reply on quantum theory or classical physics...it works with eaither and both.

We need ways of seeing into the quantum world...amplifying what is there to the naked eye.

https://www.youtube....ayer_detailpage

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#402 Julia36

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:45 AM

When we can model the synapse and of course the brain, computing will leap zillions of times forward brnging super-species intelligence that modifies itself at accelerating speeds.


"LEIPZIG, Germany -- ISC 2013 -- NVIDIA has collaborated with a research team at Stanford University to create the world’s largest artificial neural network built to model how the human brain learns. The network is 6.5 times bigger than the previous record-setting network developed by Google in 2012."


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Everything is bang on course for Resurrection in 20-40 Years (2027 is my best guess0

http://www.scientifi...rk#.UceVTdg9Ab4

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 12:56 AM

Prices are crashing, miniturisation is happening, and computers are accelerating:

Rapsberry Pi simple nasic computer now on sale NEW

for $25
http://www.courier-j...?nclick_check=1
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"The hottest computer on the market isn’t a $1,000+ decked-out gaming machine. It’s actually a bare bones circuit board the size of a credit card. And it costs just $25.
Meet the Raspberry Pi. What’s it good for?
For starters, you hook the Pi to an HDTV or digital monitor using HDMI. It can display high-definition videos, browse the Internet, play games or work on spreadsheets."

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 01:37 PM

Protein folding is speeding:

"Aggregated proteins are associated with prion-related illnesses such as Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, bovine spongiform encephalopathy (mad cow disease), amyloid-related illnesses such as Alzheimer's disease and familial amyloid cardiomyopathy or polyneuropathy,[16] as well as intracytoplasmic aggregation diseases such as Huntington's and Parkinson's disease.[5][17] These age onset degenerative diseases are associated with the aggregation of misfolded proteins into insoluble, extracellular aggregates and/or intracellular inclusions including cross-beta sheet amyloid fibrils." wiki

Fragment -based Protein simulations from UCL

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Protein folding is complex and a Mathematica -type system is needed for biology.- Woolfram is doing some of this:

Mathematica and SystemModeler include thousands of built-in functions that let you:
  • Model biological systems with Wolfram SystemModeler
  • Rapidly search the human genome
  • Generate sequence alignments in a computable form
  • Quickly visualize large-scale sequence alignments
  • Rapidly compare gene structures
  • Visualize biological reaction networks with Wolfram SystemModeler
  • Generate accurate protein renderings using integrated protein structure, element, and color data
  • Instantly visualize protein sequence alignments
  • Use built-in protein structure data to generate Ramachandran plots, visualize protein folds, and more
  • Visualize gene interaction networks
  • Rapidly develop and test algorithms
  • Easily integrate legacy data with ready-to-use curated genomic and protein data in a powerful computational environment
  • Construct interactive applications and deploy them immediately with the Wolfram CDF Player


It can take ages to understand what;s happening by humans:

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software is improving and will be so fast in the next 3-4 years it will be gif-able IMO

By 2017 Genetic medicine will be in the GP's surgery

The BIG LEAP will be in the 2020's when Machine Intelligence comes and mutates itself at quickening speeds.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 02:29 PM

Microro9bots are coming...

"A team based at Harvard University and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign has printed precisely interlaced stacks of tiny battery electrodes, each less than the width of a human hair" Kurzaeilai news

But insect relication in microrobots are gettig better:
https://www.youtube....e=player_detail

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#406 Julia36

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 02:38 PM

BBC What makes a beautiful Scientific Mind? What happens to science when a born poet enters it????

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ONE HOUR

https://www.youtube....ed/C2I8f4lpBLU?


Reinforces determinism IMO

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#407 Julia36

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:11 PM

Huge impact of Big Data - a buz term that's going to be popular:

size
storing cost
analytics.

http://topnews.us/co...es-eerie-people

When we can manipulate Big Data (Machines will invent this in 2020's not humans) we cam REsurect the dead.

Cryonics caters for the loving and the few who are frozen,

Forever for All: Moral Philosophy, Cryonics, and the ... - Amazon

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But Quantum Archaeology caters for the already dead:


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QuantumArchaeology

We cant walk away from everyone who's died.


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These animated gif images are 2 dimansional Data.
We construct them by plotting points and running them.

we will do the same in 4 dimensions with coming machines, and plot backwards into archaeological history, simulating living men - and al beings...why not?..
Resurrecting and reprogramming with coming microrobotics.

Analysis of Reversible and Quantum Finite State Machines Using Homing, Synchronizing and Distinguishing Input Sequences.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:45 PM

The evolutionary race Homosapiens sapiens has ppresently won must surely continue in the multiverse:

we need every dead person and life foprm (we're all cousins) that has ever been....

It was better data processing that made us eat plants...and not the other way round.

Creature eating plants were too slow to get most of us
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QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY:

A problem I have explaining QA to people is that they cant juggle multiple perspectives: they just haven't learned to. You have to consider partial solutions to different areas which compensate for their incompletenesses: eg the data is vast, but that is offset by the evolutionary tree limiting what could have been possible in the past ; - or the number of calculations is too much, but that's offset by events have to be within the laws of physics. All of them are juggled with what we know from the data bases like the cosmic record, the geological record, the archaeological record, and all of that run against cross checking, elimination rules, probability algorithms like SRAs and then you're coming at each memory construction from zillions of geometrical places at once - one event has zillions of lines to it. The spacetimelines don't cross so often unless they're relevant. You're sifting, refining, reducing, deducing, inferring backwards, and working with huge gaps while still pressing forward until they're filled at the end. I know it seems magic like you're pulling a rabbit out of the hat in quantum archaeology and how do you know you've constructed the right person? But it's really tons of small steps run at once down many streets -.each one is not much, together they can tell what William the Conqueror was thinking when he coughed on a given Sunday...ion by ion. And of course once you have constructed one person, you've got their memories and you're close to constructing people they interacted with as people are only their biology plus their environment and much of environment is interactions with other people.


as we resurrect Mammoths and frogs and insects we also resurect brains that have vast stores of information to improve the data bases of the Quantum Archaeology Grid:


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Every tiny event is connected causally to every other event by immutable geometries. It is improbable information can be lost, as there are many pathways to each event.




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Mendeleev pioneered grids for predicting atomic weights and make up of all elements in the universe which became known as the periodic table. 1869..



It;a perfect...the universe, the cosmos, the multiverse everything workls by the Laws of Physics...it's perfect! and therefroe it;s amenable


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[center]PERIODIC TABLE accurately predicted which elements would be found by atomic weight and number.








"Information is incapable of being destroyed....that is the deepest physics I know" Leonard Susskind Professor of Theoretical Physics, Stanford



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#409 Julia36

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 04:04 PM

Gaze-activated Dresses

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http://io9.com/

"eye-tracking system to detect when a spectator is looking. A person's gaze activates tiny motors that move parts of the dress in any number of patterns. The system can also turn off the lights and illuminate the dresses."

This is just Maths and data manipulation in 2D, 3D & 4D

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 04:15 PM

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The Tyrant Caligula - on his way back


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Jeronimo - wants USA back

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George Custer - isn't going to give it to him


This is not spurious...as we master data size manipulation...the dead will rise.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 04:27 PM

How is sensor technology and installation-base progressing these days? Is the area of the universe covered with sensors also growing exponentially? How many and which kind of sensors are needed to make QA viable? Do some of the sensors need to be placed in space? Did NSA already resurrect you and map your future thoughts?

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 05:48 PM

How is sensor technology and installation-base progressing these days?


I'm not ion touch wit it, but it is infomration based so presumably is growng exponentialy like al other IT.


Is the area of the universe covered with sensors also growing exponentially?


Yes the universe grows fast...that's why I'm pesssimistic about prediction, but resurrecting infomration is OK

How many and which kind of sensors are needed to make QA viable?


This is the basics of Quantum Archaeology

You need to gather data in the rpesent that relates to data in the past.

This is easier at meso and macro scales because we dopnt yet understand enough about the quantum world.

It would be a brave guesser twho predicts we'll never understand teh quantum though.


Do some of the sensors need to be placed in space?


This is a miscinception:
that decays doesn't move into nothingness, but catalystics physical laws.

There are traces of anything that has ever been now, here in the present.

Everything

Did NSA already resurrect you and map your future thoughts?



I dont buy the Siomulation argument as corrupted by the masses into 'we are resurrections from teh future' because it isn't falsifiable.

Howeveer it may be right, but it;s speculative.

Quantum Archaeology isn't speculative...proof of concept was established when micro-mechanics extenct for 800 million years were resurrected

2003 Resurrecting the Ancestral Steroid Receptor: Ancient Origin of Estrogen Signaling . Science 19 September Vol. 301 no. 5640 pp. 1714-1717 Joseph W. Thornton, Eleanor Need, David Crews

Mike's article is worth a look

2004 Resurrection: Coping with Information Loss Mike Perry Physical Immortality, 3rd Quarter


No event exists in isolation (if it did you could say nothing about it...not even that it exists!)

So we work back from wahats here using the laws of phsyics in hypercomputing.

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Finding a Missing Number in a Sequence


How to find a missing number in a sequence

  • Determine if the order of numbers is ascending (getting larger in value) or descending (becoming smaller in value).
  • Find the difference between numbers that are next to each other.
  • Use the difference between numbers to find the missing number.
Example: Find the missing number: 30, 23, ?, 9
  • The order of numbers is going down or descending.
  • The difference between numbers is 30 - 23 = 7
  • Since the order is descending subtract 7 from 23. The missing number may be 16.
  • The missing number is 16 since it is 7 more than the last number 9.
http://www.aaamath.com/g4fmra10.htm

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Waking the dead: using ancient DNA to reconstruct plagues, people



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Itls detective work

and DNA fingerprinting..and most detective work comes from medicine.


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Re biosensors:



WE're still working at atomic scales and above pretty much, but tha wont last. Maths will enabel microscopic inference and deduction from molecules to their building balcos all the way down to superstrings (as far as we think @ present)

Today:
http://www.rdmag.com...onic-biosensors
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Biosensors are used to detect and measure toxins in the environment; in the body they can identify chemical biomarkers that signal cancer and disease states by detecting changes at the molecular level. Reed’s lab has created biosensors using silicon nanowires configured as tiny transistors that are exponentially more sensitive than current sensing technology, in addition to being cheaper and easier to use.
Reed’s latest research, published in ACS Nano, outlines a method to add a layer of molecules to the surface of the biosensor that can be chemically regenerated, allowing for reuse. The ability to recharge nanodevice biosensors makes them more useful for applications like the remote monitoring of toxins or biothreats."

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Ultra-sensitive elctronic biosensor

The 1st pahse is nano-sensors (10 `9th of a metre)

Then quantum sensors (smaller than 100 nanometres)

5 days ago:

"
Nano-Sized Biosensors Help Track And Improve Drug Action"



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“Nanotechnology opens up a portal into living tissue that allows us to watch cancers spreading, and to determine which parts of a tumor we should be targeting with drugs.”
“This imaging technology has allowed us to map areas within the tumor that are highly aggressive, allowing us to pinpoint regions of poor drug delivery deep within a tumor at sub-cellular resolution. We can then see where we need to improve on drug delivery to improve clinical outcome.”"

http://www.asianscie...ic-cancer-2013/


Posted: Jun 18, 2013

The world's most powerful microscope ready for research
(Nanowerk News) The world’s most powerful microscope, which resides in a specially constructed room at the University of Victoria, has now been fully assembled and tested, and has a lineup of scientists and businesses eager to use it. The seven-tonne, 4.5-metre tall Scanning Transmission Electron Holography Microscope (STEHM), the first such microscope of its type in the world, came to the university in parts last year,. A team from Hitachi, which constructed the ultra high-resolution, ultra-stable instrument, spent one year painstakingly assembling the STEHM in a carefully controlled lab in the basement of the Bob Wright Centre.
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By the principle of interchangability we dont ned to get the EXACT event particle/wave under 5 nanomtres for any human long dead, but just one of a type of sub parts.

The archaeological description can stop at about 5nm if you know what that buit's made of generally.

We are managing to construct mapping of pretty small stuff..eg sub atomnics


sub-atomic activity


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until you know order by the laws of phycis...it's just a pot of dots.





So there are TWO ways of getting to infomation, not 1.:

1. Measure it
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2. Work it out logically from what you have.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:59 PM

Do some of the sensors need to be placed in space?


This is a miscinception:
that decays doesn't move into nothingness, but catalystics physical laws.

There are traces of anything that has ever been now, here in the present.

You just cannot grasp what underdetermined means, can you? Why don't you argue that there are traces of everything in every speck of dust, so only need to observe one speck!?LOL It's funny that you quote Susskind but disregard that information often moves close to the speed of light and therefore has left the planet!

You seem to be saying that you just need the contents of Wikipedia and a goddamn huge number of CPU-cycles and then you're somehow able to resurrect the thoughts of dead people. That's funny.

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#414 Julia36

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 08:47 PM

Do some of the sensors need to be placed in space?


This is a miscinception:
that decays doesn't move into nothingness, but catalystics physical laws.

There are traces of anything that has ever been now, here in the present.

You just cannot grasp what underdetermined means, can you? Why don't you argue that there are traces of everything in every speck of dust, so only need to observe one speck!?LOL It's funny that you quote Susskind but disregard that information often moves close to the speed of light and therefore has left the planet!

You seem to be saying that you just need the contents of Wikipedia and a goddamn huge number of CPU-cycles and then you're somehow able to resurrect the thoughts of dead people. That's funny.


:) - in a way that's true.

Everytthing is conneted to it's neighbours (and those neighbours may even be at the other ends of the unievrse with quantum entanglement).

eg if you find ONE person and descrivbe them COMPLETELY you would be led to all his possible ancestors by the evolutionary laws of the tree of life.





IN THEORY you should be able to construct everythng from one spec of dust gven the laws of phycis!

IN PRATICE its quicker to take observations of the worldand factor those in in a GRID



Information isn't an isolated something but leaves traces ...like pulling out a puice from a jigsaw leaves the empty pattern box.

Underdeterminism just mean not enough ionfomation to construct a valdi theory, as I understand it..or enlighten me?

#415 Julia36

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 08:56 PM

Brian Cox extropolating from Pauli's Exclusion Principle how Everything is conncted to Everything else:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn4I-f34cTI


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World's Longest dominos

YouTube:



the police have known this for years (They have to be fast at dedecting)
Catch the ra gang member and you have information on the whole gang.


To quicken it catch the ring leader (more info)

Men are just data so what holds for men holds for quarks (on this)

Edited by Innocent, 24 June 2013 - 09:28 PM.


#416 Julia36

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 09:22 PM

So despite the crackpot theopries that pervade science (or do you think we're the fist generation of sceintist to have NO looney theories that everyone subscribes to???) 'junk DNA was one that has held for years, despite niutters like me shouting Nature didn't allow waste.

There are loads of them , they are opinions not based on evidence and they are all not science

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Stuff is linked to stuff and there's no way round that I see.

EVERYTHING is in tow to everything else.

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but for Archaeology we can match where they touch phsyically (at different sceles)
and match exactly because of the uniqueness of co-ordoinates.



Consider:

with enough com[puting power

we will be able to make simulations (for robots to build) od every POSS(BLE
person in history.


So then it's a matter of elimination of impossoble pathways based on readings in the present.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 09:42 PM

QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY is not a wacko/wondefrful [psychedilic idea that might/might not work.

It;s already been proven

An example press-released today


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Note they are taking ana ancient extnct mechanism

http://www.scienceda...30624152617.htm

Two Mutations Triggered an Evolutionary Leap 500 Million Years Ago

June 24, 2013 — Evolution, it seems, sometimes jumps instead of crawls. A research team led by a University of Chicago scientist has discovered two key mutations that sparked a hormonal revolution 500 million years ago.


In a feat of "molecular time travel," the researchers resurrected and analyzed the functions of the ancestors of genes that play key roles in modern human reproduction, development, immunity and cancer. By re-creating the same DNA changes that occurred during those genes' ancient history, the team showed that two mutations set the stage for hormones like estrogen, testosterone and cortisol to take on their crucial present-day roles.
"Changes in just two letters of the genetic code in our deep evolutionary past caused a massive shift in the function of one protein and set in motion the evolution of our present-day hormonal and reproductive systems," said Joe Thornton, PhD, professor of human genetics and ecology & evolution at the University of Chicago, who led the study.
"If those two mutations had not happened, our bodies today would have to use different mechanisms to regulate pregnancy, libido, the response to stress, kidney function, inflammation, and the development of male and female characteristics at puberty," Thornton said.
The findings were published online June 24 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

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Understanding how the genetic code of a protein determines its functions would allow biochemists to better design drugs and predict the effects of mutations on disease. Thornton said the discovery shows how evolutionary analysis of proteins' histories can advance this goal, Before the group's work, it was not previously known how the various steroid receptors in modern species distinguish estrogens from other hormones.
The team, which included researchers from the University of Oregon, Emory University and the Scripps Research Institute, studied the evolution of a family of proteins called steroid hormone receptors, which mediate the effects of hormones on reproduction, development and physiology. Without receptor proteins, these hormones cannot affect the body's cells.
Thornton's group traced how the ancestor of the entire receptor family -- which recognized only estrogens -- evolved into descendant proteins capable of recognizing other steroid hormones, such as testosterone, progesterone and the stress hormone cortisol.
To do so, the group used a gene "resurrection" strategy. They first inferred the genetic sequences of ancient receptor proteins, using computational methods to work their way back up the tree of life from a database of hundreds of present-day receptor sequences. They then biochemically synthesized these ancient DNA sequences and used molecular assays to determine the receptors' sensitivity to various hormones.

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Thornton's team narrowed down the time range during which the capacity to recognize non-estrogen steroids evolved, to a period about 500 million years ago, before the dawn of vertebrate animals on Earth. They then identified the most important mutations that occurred during that interval by introducing them into the reconstructed ancestral proteins. By measuring how the mutations affected the receptor's structure and function, the team could re-create ancient molecular evolution in the laboratory.
They found that just two changes in the ancient receptor's gene sequence caused a 70,000-fold shift in preference away from estrogens toward other steroid hormones. The researchers also used biophysical techniques to identify the precise atomic-level mechanisms by which the mutations affected the protein's functions. Although only a few atoms in the protein were changed, this radically rewired the network of interactions between the receptor and the hormone, leading to a massive change in function.
"Our findings show that new molecular functions can evolve by sudden large leaps due to a few tiny changes in the genetic code," Thornton said. He pointed out that, along with the two key changes in the receptor, additional mutations, the precise effects of which are not yet known, were necessary for the full effects of hormone signaling on the body to evolve." (Press Release)

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Computing and science are HURTLING forward

By 2027 IIMO) we will have enough skills with maths (computing is just maths as machinery)

to resurrect 106 BILLION people who died in the last 50,000 years.



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:19 AM

Underdeterminism just mean not enough ionfomation to construct a valdi theory, as I understand it..or enlighten me?

Yes. For example lets say that initially there were 50 integers, which were added together. You only know that their sum is 701. It is mathematically/logically impossible for you to retrieve those 50 integers from their sum only, no matter how much computing power you have. Nature is full of situations like this every moment everywhere.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:09 PM



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:08 PM

Look at the slide at 15:32 for laughs (the asteroid-bit) :D




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