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Lots of talks on this breaking area of science

Washington, DC, United States
March 15th, 2013

• TEDxDeExctinction website »

RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD

First the species, then the individual.

The reason for that order is the progressive complexity of the calculations.

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-sceptics should note:

1. There is NO known limit on how far we can go back to resurrect (resurrection 800 million years old have been done on extinct species @ Oregon university).

2. We can estimate when resurrections of individual men up to 1 million years ago will be viable by

Order of Complexity

X Calculation power needed

- and when that will be possible (2027 IMO

For the dead it doesn't matter if resurrection is done in a billion years - only one moment of subjective time will have elapsed for them.

Until scientists can do the equivalent of magic, their science is not yet mature.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008OW138Y

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CLICK TO ENLARGE>>>>



It;s not up to scientists to get people signed up for Cryonics.

Its up to Insurance agents who are skilled at covering people. QA may not happen for some unknown reason.

Objections are listed here:

Reference Article on QA

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WHAT TO DO IF YOU WANT TO GET RESURRECTED BY QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY


NOTHING.

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WHAT TO DO IF YOU'VE KILLED SOMEONE

NOTHING.

They're not dead and you're both immortal.

Death is a logical impossibility so long as archaeology exists..

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Gridding events (like a human being's life and thoughts) is one part of the giant
quantumarchaeology grid


where "Number rules the universe" Pythagoras

space google
(real one's coming)

Sky-Map.org

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Data- thoughts and all.


Data

2+4+6+9876+8765 +

Data


Data


Data


Data








Data (Hogarth)

Data
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RWLxOFGLY

describable, reconfigurable lawful traceable by calculation using the laws of physics.

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INTELLIGENT KNIFE INVENTED

100% accuracy in medical operations




More>>

BBC breaking

'Intelligent' knife detects cancer



Note data analysis:)

"Professor Nicholson (left) said: “The intelligent knife project is one part of our major translational research programme to create new real-time diagnostics to improve surgical decision-making. It represents a major step forward in the application of systems medicine approaches for monitoring and improving the surgical patient journey through the hospital environment.”" Imperial College

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"...scientists have been able to use new technology to work from just a single cell of a microbe and then sequence its complete genetic code."

Critics of QA said this was impossible!

"
The findings, published in the journal Nature, involve the genetic sequencing of hitherto almost entirely unexplored branches of the tree of life, in an area known as “microbial dark matter”.
Attempts to research the precise nature of whole swathes of single-celled microorganisms, the most diverse and abundant variety of species on Earth, had been limited by the fact that they are notoriously difficult to reproduce in a laboratory."

Breaking
http://www.independe...es-8709618.html


http://www.pbs.org/n...ark-matter.html


http://www.pbs.org/n...ark-matter.html

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TED De-Extinction talks 2013:


INTRO

John Fahey – “A New Century of Exploration”
Chris Anderson – “TED Welcomes You”
Carl Zimmer – “(Some) EXTINCTION IS (not necessarily) FOREVER”
WHO



Isabella Kirkland – “A Still Life of Stilled Life”
Susan Haig – “Bringing Back the Birds of Our Dreams”
Hendrik Poinar – “Not All Mammoths Were Woolly”
Michael Archer – “Second Chance for Tasmanian Tigers and Fantastic Frogs”
Joel Sartore – “Endangered Studio”
HOW


Soon:Escaping to a garden near you.

Alberto Fernández-Arias – “The First De-extinction”
Oliver Ryder – “Genetic Rescue and Biodiversity Banking”
Robert Lanza – “The Use of Cloning and Stem Cells to Resurrect Life”
George Church – “Hybridizing with Extinct Species”
Michael McGrew – “Pigeons from Chickens”
Ben Novak – “How to Bring Passenger Pigeons All the Way Back”


WHY AND WHY NOT



History as you've never seen it


Stanley Temple – “De-extinction: A Game-changer for Conservation Biology”
David Ehrenfeld – “Extinction Reversal? Don’t Count on It.”
Kate Jones – “Why and Why Not Is a Matter of Specifics”
James Tate – “Rules, Regs, and Reactions”
Beth Shapiro – “Ancient DNA: What It Is and What It Could Be”



Hank Greely – “De-extinction: Hubris or Hope?”
WILD AGAIN

Henri Kerkdijk-Otten – “Restoring Europe’s Wildlife with Aurochs and Others”
Kent Redford – “Tainted Species?”
William Powell – “Reviving the American Forest with the American Chestnut”
David Burney – “Rewilding, Ecological Surrogacy, and Now… De-extinction?”
Michael Mace – “California Condors Back from the Brink”


Waiting in the wings:


Australopithecus:

Kenyanthropus platyops

Homo ergaster



The Black Death - already back & in labs worldwide
some in city centers.

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Philosophers - think!

While they have been sleeping living history is become literal!

There never was a better time to do nothing!

R. I. P.

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Raising the dead : Nature .com





Meaningless

Quite a lot of talks to take in.
Summary:
We're doing extinct species and will do dead people about 2027

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Author
Michael Crichton


before his first death

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Cosmologist claims Universe may not be expanding


-if this is true prediction (calculation into the future) may be possible.



Cosmologist claims Universe may not be expanding

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A selective list of sub-disciplines distinguished by time period or region of study is given below.

• African archaeology, Archaeology of the Americas, Australian archaeology, European archaeology: focuses on archaeologic study concerning the location of the findings.
• Industrial archaeology focuses on the preservation of material relics of the Industrial Revolution or the archaeology of work.
• Near Eastern archaeology (sometimes known as Middle Eastern archaeology). See also Biblical archaeology, which applies the results of Near Eastern archaeology to the study of the Bible.
• Medieval archaeology is the study of post-Roman European archaeology until the sixteenth century.
• Post-medieval archaeology is the study of material culture in Europe from the 16th century onwards.
• Modern archaeology is the study of modern society using archaeological methods, e.g. the Tucson Garbage Project.
• Historical archaeology is the study of the past using both material evidence (i.e. artifacts and their contexts) and documentary evidence (including maps, photographs and film).

The following is a list of other sub-disciplines. Some of these are not areas of study in their own right, and are only methods to be used in larger projects.

• Aerial archaeology studying sites from air photos, especially by identifying cropmarks.
• Archaeoastronomy is the study of the relationship between the configuration of ancient monuments and astronomy.
• Archaeological science or Archaeometry is the application of scientific techniques or methodologies to archaeology such as radiocarbon dating, statistics and remote sensing.
• Archaeozoology is the study of animal remains in human settlements.
• Archaeobotany or paleoethnobotany is the study of human-plant interaction in the archaeological record.
• Battlefield archaeology is the study of conflict sites from an archeological perspective.
• Calceology is the study of archaeological footwear.
• Computational archaeology is the application of computers, particularly GIS, to archaeology.
• Experimental archaeology involves attempting to re-enact past processes to test theories about ancient manufacturing, engineering and the effects of time on sites and objects (for example: flintknapping).
• Environmental archaeology studies the long-term relationship between humans and their environments.
• Forensic archaeology is the application of archaeological techniques to criminal investigations. It has become particularly prominent in the investigation of mass-killings associated with war crimes.
• Landscape archaeology involves identifying and studying sites as components in a wider geographical area.
• Maritime archaeology is the study of submerged archaeological sites, including shipwrecks as well as settlements that have been engulfed by bodies of water.
• Museum studies is the display and interpretation of past remains for the public.
• Osteology is the scientific study of bones.
• Paleopathology is the study of ancient disease amongst animals and humans.
• Recceology is the study of warfare and the means of warfare from an archeological perspective.

wiki

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The Sea which we will have to calculate

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The battle by the few against the many is a theme in history.


London WW II
Resurrection is moving out of the dark mind which says things are impossible ---> thru religion---> through futurism---.

and into the hands of statisticians.


American Statistical Association

www.amstat.org/‎



Royal Statistical Society




https://www.rss.org.uk/‎




In less than a generation on someone's death you will phone a statistician.

• 1839 - 1845 Richard Fletcher
• 1846 - 1851 George C. Shattuck
• 1852 - 1882 Edward Jarvis
• 1883 - 1896 Francis Amasa Walker
• 1897 - 1909 Carroll D. Wright

20th Century

• 1910 S. N. D. North
• 1911 Frederick L. Hoffman
• 1912 Walter Francis Willcox
• 1914 John Koren
• 1915 E. Dana Durand
• 1916 Charles P. Neill
• 1917 Allyn Abbott Young
• 1918 Wesley Clair Mitchell
• 1919 Joseph Adna Hill
• 1920 George E. Roberts
• 1921 Carroll W. Doten
• 1922 William S. Rossiter
• 1923 Warren M. Persons
• 1924 Louis Israel Dublin
• 1925 Robert E. Chaddock
• 1926 Leonard Porter Ayres
• 1927 Edmund E. Day
• 1928 Carl Snyder
• 1929 Edwin B. Wilson
• 1930 Malcolm B. Rorty
• 1931 William Fielding Ogburn
• 1932 Irving Fisher
• 1933 Stuart A. Rice
• 1934 Frederick C. Mills
• 1935 Willford I. King
• 1936 Joseph S. Davis
• 1937 Warren Randolph Burgess
• 1938 Robert H. Coats
• 1939 Raymond Pearl
• 1940 F. Leslie Hayford
• 1941 Winfield W. Riefler
• 1942 Alfred J. Lotka
• 1943 Emanuel A. Goldenweiser
• 1944 Helen M. Walker
• 1945 Walter A. Shewhart
• 1946 Isador Lubin
• 1947 Willard Thorp
• 1948 George W. Snedecor
• 1949 Simon Kuznets
• 1950 Samuel S. Wilks
• 1951 Lowell J. Reed
• 1952 Aryness Joy Wickens
• 1953 William Gemmell Cochran
• 1954 Herbert Marshall
• 1955 Ralph J. Watkins
• 1956 Gertrude Mary Cox
• 1957 William R. Leonard
• 1958 Walter E. Hoadley
• 1959 Rensis Likert
• 1960 Morris H. Hansen
• 1961 Martin R. Gainsbrugh
• 1962 Philip M. Hauser
• 1963 Raymond T. Bowman
• 1964 Albert H. Bowker
• 1965 W. Allen Wallis
• 1966 Frederick F. Stephan
• 1967 Frederick Mosteller
• 1968 Geoffrey H. Moore
• 1969 A. Ross Eckler
• 1970 T. A. Bancroft
• 1971 Churchill Eisenhart
• 1972 William H. Shaw
• 1973 Clifford G. Hildreth
• 1974 Jerome Cornfield
• 1975 Lester Frankel
• 1976 Franklin A. Graybill
• 1977 Leslie Kish
• 1978 George E. P. Box
• 1979 Herman Otto Hartley
• 1980 Margaret E. Martin
• 1981 Ralph A. Bradley
• 1982 William Kruskal
• 1983 Richard L. Anderson
• 1984 I. Richard Savage
• 1985 John Neter
• 1986 Donald Marquardt
• 1987 Barbara A. Bailar
• 1988 Robert V. Hogg
• 1989 Janet L. Norwood
• 1990 Vincent P. Barabba
• 1991 Arnold Zellner
• 1992 Katherine K. Wallman
• 1993 J. Stuart Hunter
• 1994 Ronald L. Iman
• 1995 Mitchell H. Gail
• 1996 Lynne Billard
• 1997 Jon R. Kettenring
• 1998 David S. Moore
• 1999 Jonas H. Ellenberg

21st Century

• 2000 W. Michael O'Fallon
• 2001 Richard L. Scheaffer
• 2002 Miron L. Straf
• 2003 Robert L. Mason
• 2004 Bradley Efron
• 2005 Fritz J. Scheuren
• 2006 Sallie Keller-McNulty
• 2007 Mary Ellen Bock
• 2008 Peter A. Lachenbruch
• 2009 Sally C. Morton
• 2010 Sastry G. Pantula
• 2011 Nancy L. Geller
• 2012 Robert N. Rodriguez
• 2013 Marie Davidian

UK

• 1834–1836 The Marquess of Lansdowne
• 1836–1838 Sir Charles Lemon, Bt
• 1838–1840 The Earl FitzWilliam
• 1840–1842 Viscount Sandon
• 1842–1843 The Marquess of Lansdowne
• 1843–1845 Lord Ashley
• 1845–1847 The Lord Monteagle of Brandon
• 1847–1849 The Earl FitzWilliam
• 1849–1851 The Earl of Harrowby
• 1851–1853 The Lord Overstone
• 1853–1855 The Earl FitzWilliam
• 1855–1857 The Earl of Harrowby
• 1857–1859 Lord Stanley
• 1859–1861 Lord John Russell
• 1861–1863 Sir John Pakington, Bt
• 1863–1865 William Henry Sykes
• 1865–1867 The Lord Houghton
• 1867–1869 William Ewart Gladstone
• 1869–1871 William Newmarch
• 1871–1873 William Farr
• 1873–1875 William Guy
• 1875–1877 James Heywood
• 1877–1879 George Shaw-Lefevre
• 1879–1880 Thomas Brassey
• 1880–1882 James Caird
• 1882–1884 Robert Giffen
• 1884–1886 Rawson W. Rawson
• 1886–1888 George Goschen
• 1888–1890 Thomas Graham Balfour
• 1890–1892 Frederic J. Mouat
• 1892–1894 Charles Booth
• 1894–1896 The Lord Farrer
• 1896–1897 John Biddulph Martin
• 1897 Alfred Edmund Bateman
• 1897–1899 Leonard Courtney
• 1899–1900 Henry Fowler
• 1900–1902 The Lord Avebury

20th Century

• 1902–1904 Patrick George Craigie
• 1904–1905 Sir Francis Powell, Bt
• 1905–1906 The Earl of Onslow
• 1906–1907 Richard Martin
• 1907–1909 Sir Charles Dilke, Bt
• 1909–1910 Jervoise Athelstane Baines
• 1910–1912 Lord George Hamilton
• 1912–1914 Francis Ysidro Edgeworth
• 1914–1915 The Lord Welby
• 1915–1916 Lord George Hamilton
• 1916–1918 Bernard Mallet, Registrar General
• 1918–1920 Herbert Samuel
• 1920–1922 R. Henry Rew
• 1922–1924 The Lord Emmott
• 1924–1926 Udny Yule
• 1926–1928 The Viscount D'Abernon
• 1928–1930 A. William Flux
• 1930–1932 Sir Josiah Stamp
• 1932–1934 The Lord Meston
• 1934–1936 Major Greenwood
• 1936–1938 The Lord Kennet
• 1938–1940 Arthur Lyon Bowley
• 1940–1941 Henry William Macrosty
• 1941 Hector Leak
• 1941–1943 William Beveridge
• 1943–1945 Charles Ernest Snow
• 1945–1947 The Lord Woolton
• 1947–1949 David Heron
• 1949–1950 Sir Geoffrey Heyworth
• 1950–1952 Austin Bradford Hill
• 1952–1954 Ronald Fisher
• 1954–1955 The Lord Piercy
• 1955–1957 Egon Pearson
• 1957–1959 Harry Campion
• 1959–1960 Hugh Beaver
• 1960–1962 Maurice Kendall
• 1962–1964 Joseph Oscar Irwin
• 1964–1965 Sir Paul Chambers
• 1965–1966 L. H. C. Tippett
• 1966–1967 M. S. Bartlett
• 1967–1968 Frank Yates
• 1968–1969 Arthur Cockfield
• 1969–1970 R. G. D. Allen
• 1970–1971 Bernard Benjamin
• 1971–1972 George Alfred Barnard
• 1972–1973 Harold Wilson
• 1973–1974 D. J. Finney
• 1974–1975 Henry Daniels
• 1975–1977 Stella Cunliffe
• 1977–1978 Henry Wynn
• 1978–1980 Sir Claus Moser
• 1980–1982 David Cox
• 1982–1984 Peter Armitage
• 1984–1985 Walter Bodmer
• 1985–1986 John Nelder
• 1986–1987 James Durbin
• 1987–1989 John Kingman
• 1989–1991 Peter G. Moore
• 1991–1993 T. M. F. Smith
• 1993–1995 D. J. Bartholomew
• 1995–1997 Adrian Smith
• 1997–1999 R. N. Curnow
• 1999–2001 Denise Lievesley

21st Century

• 2001–2003 Peter Green
• 2003–2005 Andy Grieve
• 2005–2007 Tim Holt
• 2008–2009 David Hand
• 2010 - 2010 Bernard Silverman (resigned Feb 2010; for stating 27654376543654.097987 was a code from God, replaced pro tem by David Hand)
• 2011 - 2012 Valerie Isham^[1]
• 2013 - John Pullinger

Billionaire Steve Woolfram has proved there are aliens in numbers.

in

A New Kind of Science



Stats & maths professor Ed Thorpe beat Las Vegas at poker
then became a billionaire beating world stockmarlets.

In seven years your mobile phone will do any stats you want, predict or trace almost anything you want,

and commission almost anything you want
eg "build me a production plant and raise the money with this $10 in my a/c."





Hologram and quantum entangled wireless, non-chargable smartphones are in vodophone & other research labs currently.

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New evidence for warm-blooded dinosaurs

Today:
New evidence for warm-blooded dinosaurs



University of Adelaide research has shown new evidence that dinosaurs were warm-blooded like birds and mammals, not cold-blooded like reptiles as commonly believed.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news...osaurs.html#jCp



Plant-eating dinosaurs replaced teeth often, carried spares

Some of the largest herbivorous dinosaurs replaced their teeth at a rate of approximately one tooth every 1-2 months to compensate for tooth wear from crunching up plants, according to research published July 17 in the open .

we build a dynamic archaeology grid

on it are plotted everything on the Tree of life

beginning with the





Tree of Life Web Project,


Note this is still for similar groups and not yet for individuals which is more complex (but only more calculation with science laws and artefacts).
A Law of Conservation of Information is self-evident: everything is connected to it's neighbours (and much more, but that will do to trace back).

20,000 new kinds of proteins from Canadian Lake:



http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ake-hallam.html

CBC
Canadian lake offers new glimpse at 'tree of life'
(today)
""Every time we sequence a genome, almost invariably about 40 per cent of the gene content is new, hypothetical," he added. "We don't know what it does.""

OneZoom Tree of Life Explorer

OneZoom Tree of Life Explorer

OneZoom is committed to heightening awareness about the diversity of life on earth, its evolutionary history and the threats of extinction. This website allows you to explore the tree of life in a completely new way: it's like a map, everything is on one page, all you have to do is zoom in and out."










Archaeology is still artefact based. But is moving to calculation.
As it does it moves onto Moore's Law and accelerates in capacity.



Hendrik Poinar – “Not All Mammoths Were Woolly” TED

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"Last of the Neanderthals

Eurasia was theirs alone for 200,000 years.
Then the newcomers arrived."

http://ngm.nationalg...als-photography


"tree relating this genome to the genomes of Neandertals from Croatia, from Germany and from the Caucasus as well as the Denisovan genome recovered from a finger bone excavated at Deniosva Cave. It shows that this individual is closely related to these other Neandertals. Thus, both Neandertals and Denisovans have inhabited this cave in southern Siberia, presumably at different times."



"The Neandertal Genome Project Website"

Return of the Neanderthals - National Geographic


"
"We're looking at an ancient population that had thick, dense bones and strong muscles," Hawks says. "If you could find some way to tweak the human biology in a way to make it more Neanderthal-like, that might treat osteoporosis and muscle wasting."
For now, the technology for studying Neanderthal biology remains out of reach. But many experts predict that it's only a matter of time. "My own over-under number is 30 years," Hawks says."

30 years might be true at today's rate of linear progress.

But next week acceleration in progress is going to be faster, and Kurzweil has shown man is incapable of thinking exponentially: we think linearly.

So that 30 years will be done in under 10. maybe less.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRfWU-ZpLZ8

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North American Archeology has some bizarre contradictions

Novel explores some of them.

THE MOUNDS ANOMALY

"Does it make sense to discount artifacts that appear Jewish, Chinese, Christian, or from some other old world culture because they were found in North America? Was the Aleutian Land Bridge really the only possible route early inhabitants could have followed to populate the Americas?"

"

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Robots are gearing up but their wave wont break on the world until 2015.

Then they will explode like 3D Printers seemed to.

Their price will fall even faster as many of the parts are ubiquitous and impossible to patent.



BBC yesterday

Driverless cars to be tested on UK roads by end of 2013

Driverless cars are guided by a system of sensors and cameras and are seen as potentially safer and more efficient than regular vehicles.
As a safety measure, a back-up driver will ride along during tests who can take over in case of emergency.
Test track
The plans have been unveiled in a blueprint by the Department for Transport, as part of a £28bn investment in British roads to reduce congestion. The report says driverless vehicles are capable of driving on their own "using knowledge of the environment in which they are driving"."

generally

"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW5AnrtVor8

This is pretty fast for the UK.

The argument that they'll reduce accidents because they're stimulate production status symbols is a great one.

It'd be good if they can rise vertically on telescopic legs to part in a space of only 1 meter:)





Two NASA robots have been chosen for the challenge in a few weeks,
"Teams will have to navigate their high-tech robots through a rigorous obstacle course, including driving and connecting hoses to valves."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVu2hxm07E&feature=player_embedded


Already In use:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8_lfxPI5ObM

By law robots have to carry a computer memory log




2015 is where this graph gets interesting: in the home

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Amazon Best seller
Amazon Best Sellers: 3D Printers

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Reconstructing History:



I dont know when nanobots are going to be out of the labs, but they'll obviously be mega:



Nanobots Could Perform Surgeries in The Future (+ VID)

Mashable Today



"Researchers in Zurich are building nearly microscopic bots to help with delicate surgeries."

Nanobopts are going to be needed for cryonic recovery and QA

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Interesting alternate path of Quantum Archaeology:

Simulating The Deceased


Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies-12 Jul 2013

"Although today, technologies that can accurately simulate a deceased person’s life experience, their consciousness, emotions, and memories do not exist, many experts believe that exponential advances in computers, artificial intelligence, and communications technologies could bring this dream into reality by mid-century or before."

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Lasers Boost Space Communications


"Before NASA even existed, science-fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke in 1945 imagined spacecraft that could send messages back to Earth using beams of light. After decades of setbacks and dead ends, the technology to do this is finally coming of age."




Technology is doing experiments in the environment, or changing it;s data.

When we have enough recursive calculation systems we wont need to do any.




Speculations Concerning the First Ultraintelligent Machine.

www.stat.vt.edu/tech_reports/2005/GoodTechReport.pdf‎

"The survival of Man depends on the early construction of an Ultra -intelligent machine."

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[pirlo]

Innocent ,in the worst of the cases , suppose that universe is non-deterministic and no-local and information is lost and non-
reversible , how to resurrect people then?

it will be by brute force ? (trying all posibilities /combinations of all entire universe until the resurrected is alive again)? what do you think?

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Innocent ,in the worst of the cases , suppose that universe is non-deterministic and no-local and information is lost and non-
reversible , how to resurrect people then?

it will be by brute force ? (trying all possibilities /combinations of all entire universe until the resurrected is alive again)? what do you think?

Hello pinto.

1. Our universe is absolutely governed by laws.

2. When a system is absolutely lawful it must logically be retrodicable, ie you must in principle be capable of predicting backwards.

This is the basis of archaeology.

While it is theoretically possible to reconstruct the past by brute force computing alone, eg generating all possible histories -- then you would certainly describe all men in all states ever- .

It would be hard to argue against the certainty of resurrection from this view.

But I think we can better by drawing trajectories starting with artefacts from the Records, and the Tree of Life
.
We measure histories routinely eg by taking core samples of ice or counting and measuring tree rings. And then doing calculations.

3. Measurement and calculation is crude compared to what is going to be possible as machine intelligence comes after 2022..

The narrowing of all possible happenings are the short-cuts from maths, statistics and cross-referencing from samples in the present, added to the laws of physics.

Most possibilities -almost all- are impossible because they will conflict from another situation which has already occupied that space-time.

Then you just have a software or system to judge which one is correct by other measurements.

4. Every event is unique.

That is the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

Also the size of sums shouldn't phase you, because:

5. Mathematics needed for Resurrection reduces proportionately to the artefacts you find.


Events can be plotted on graphs.



As you configure each one, it helps configure it's neighbors.

Records which will form part of the complete Record or

quantum archaeology grid

already exist with zoom facilities eg the Tree of Life the Cosmological History. These specialist records will be calculated simultaneously, to give a dynamic map of the past - past the level of individual human thought. I suppose it might look like an explosion, but slowed down like a universe
in motion.
This is already being done in the Military Defence Grids - here for the South Pole.
Each part is limited by co-ordinates and expands increasingly until the final zoom is scale 1:1 real time by most recent satellite pass.



Records are kept and it can be run backwards or forwards like an old moviie reel.

Zoom:



It obviously doesn't have to be graphical but is also lists of numbers.



Feb 2008 : "I suspect--although I don't know--that there is a Law of Conservation of information, so that in principle no information is ever lost and is in principle capable of recovery" Robert Ettinger

This Law has to be formally drafted in science and it is not up to philosophers nor the religious community to do that.

There are no right/wrong answers: just which model you are going to use to examine things.
Cryonics is a valid model and cant be overturned. But QA is another.

But there had better be no conflicts or your model is invalid, and this is a real problem in physics at present.

we need more observation, measurement, experiment, discovery and computing.

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We're coming at reurrection from many ways:

In molecular biology Harvard Professor George Church:

George Church. Regenesis. New York: Basic Books. ISBN 0-465-02175-1.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEbLONsL5EA

Foresnically:






In youth



In process:





Mathematically



Statistically

:



Computationally

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exhaustively



Cryonically:)


Longevity Cartoons

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