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[Sun Nootropic]

would you think that the combination of 5 gram of noopept + 10 grams of pramracetam + 10 grams of nefiracetam is a good combination ? And how much of this combo
per-day you would recommend, specially for a beginner? ...B) would you suggest any other combinations or you think it would be better to start each racetam without mixing them together?

thanks for your time

[Heh]

Every other day (with weekends off): 10-20mg Noopept, 150-300mg Pramiracetam. I don't know about Nefiracetam (is that the one that shrank testicles?).

[BLimitless]

Yes, begin by injecting 100g of piracetam dissolved into everclear. The injection must be into your eyeball, the closer to the pupil the better. If you can get it right in the centre of your pupil then your IQ should increase by at least 280 points and you will be able to solve life, the universe, and everything.


OK on a serious note. Those doses are absurd. Noopept is dosed on the order of 0.01 to 0.1 grams. Pramiracetam and Nefiracetam I do not have experience with but this thread says anything over 2g of Pramiracetam for the average person will result in neurotoxicity aka brain damage. Nefiracetam, something similar. It can damage your testicles in too high of a dose.

[Sun Nootropic]

Every other day (with weekends off): 10-20mg Noopept, 150-300mg Pramiracetam. I don't know about Nefiracetam (is that the one that shrank testicles?).

thanks for your help

[Sun Nootropic]

Yes, begin by injecting 100g of piracetam dissolved into everclear. The injection must be into your eyeball, the closer to the pupil the better. If you can get it right in the centre of your pupil then your IQ should increase by at least 280 points and you will be able to solve life, the universe, and everything.


OK on a serious note. Those doses are absurd. Noopept is dosed on the order of 0.01 to 0.1 grams. Pramiracetam and Nefiracetam I do not have experience with but this thread says anything over 2g of Pramiracetam for the average person will result in neurotoxicity aka brain damage. Nefiracetam, something similar. It can damage your testicles in too high of a dose.

so what`s the quantity for Pramiracetam and Nefiracetam

[Adaptogen]

i don't think there is a reason to stack all of these. any 1 -racetam + noopept would probably be good. i combine piracetam and noopept (4.5 grams, 25mg) but do not take it every day

[BLimitless]

i don't think there is a reason to stack all of these. any 1 -racetam + noopept would probably be good. i combine piracetam and noopept (4.5 grams, 25mg) but do not take it every day

What's the problem with taking it every day?

I use 1 heaped tsp (5-7g) piracetam and 30mg noopept a day. I have been doing this for 2 weeks and experience only good things. Prior to that I was taking 10-30mg noopept/day on its own for a month or two consecutively without fail.

Edited by BLimitless, 20 December 2012 - 02:57 AM.

[Adaptogen]

no problem at all. i take it days consecutively sometimes too, i was merely stating my habits.

does anyone know if noopept/piracetam would stimulate neurogenesis at these doses?

[BLimitless]

I am combining it with Lion's Mane, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, N-Acetyl-Tyrosine and ALCAR. Lion's Mane Mycelium and NAC massively potentiate the NGF/BDNF boosting effects of noopept so yes, yes they do. I feel my brain getting practically getting younger every day - I experienced a significant brain degeneration in my teens due to certain issues and it is reversing to how I was when I was a child. Piracetam/Noopept on their own, I do not know. The NAC and Lion's Mane synergy with Noopept creates a HUGE boost so keep that in mind. I remember reading some papers/anecdotes on this before but I cannot recall. As a result I set up the stack and I can confirm first hand.

And there is a significant difference between a little Piracetam and a nice full looking teaspoon's worth of it. I believe that the 4.8g idea was well thought out because it works for me. 4.8g feels more like a threshold dose than a megadose to say the least.

Edited by BLimitless, 20 December 2012 - 03:09 AM.

[Adaptogen]

yes, 4.8 is actually the dose i usually take. i read that was the optimal dose, most noo's for your neurons probably.

[gray.bot]

For piracetam I just heap a teaspoon and it weighs about 5grams - it's a super fast way to estimate the 4.8 grams which works well. I dose 3-4 times a day.

Thanks for the info on lions mane and NAC potentiating Noopept - I'll have to try that.

[Adaptogen]

what dose NAC do you take? I read on another topic that at doses of just 600mg it " increases hypoxic ventilatory response in humans, which is step one on the road to PAH"

but i don't know if that is of any significance

Edited by Adaptogen, 20 December 2012 - 10:03 AM.

[BLimitless]

I do not notice anything but positive effects even at a dose of 5g per day. Works brilliant against certain kinds of toxicity in the system (esp. alcohol).

Source (read the whole thread)

The daily dose based on studies: 2000-3000mg (2-3g) per DAY

A colleague of mine talked to the scientists THEMSELVES, the ones who did the study....

They recommend taking UP TO 6000-8000mg a day, without side effects.

NAC can lead to nausea so see how you react first.

ACTUAL DOSAGE RECOMMENDATION FROM PROFESSIONALS:

--2000mg-6000mg PER DAY--

Work your way up, make notice of any side effects/nausea.

[lifebuddy]

Geez, there were some weird responses to the OP!! He just wanted some advice. I think he bought those gram quantities...I don't think he planned on taking all of that at once

I've combined all three before. Nefiracetam is not a testicle breaker, at least not in humans. In fact i'm getting kinda tired of reading "OMG NEFIRACETAM SHRINKS YOUR BALLS" style posts every time it is mentioned. Adaptogen is right that Noopept+one other racetam works great. But since they all have different effect profiles, combining all three should work well as long as you monitor your reaction carefully.

[BLimitless]

Geez, there were some weird responses to the OP!! He just wanted some advice. I think he bought those gram quantities...I don't think he planned on taking all of that at once

I've combined all three before. Nefiracetam is not a testicle breaker, at least not in humans. In fact i'm getting kinda tired of reading "OMG NEFIRACETAM SHRINKS YOUR BALLS" style posts every time it is mentioned. Adaptogen is right that Noopept+one other racetam works great. But since they all have different effect profiles, combining all three should work well as long as you monitor your reaction carefully.

Haha, at the time of this thread there was another troll thread where a dude claimed to be taking 50g piracetam/day amongst other things, also in absolutely ridiculous doses. Thought it was a similar troll thread at first.

[deh707]

I am combining it with Lion's Mane, N-Acetyl-Cysteine, N-Acetyl-Tyrosine and ALCAR. Lion's Mane Mycelium and NAC massively potentiate the NGF/BDNF boosting effects of noopept so yes, yes they do. I feel my brain getting practically getting younger every day - I experienced a significant brain degeneration in my teens due to certain issues and it is reversing to how I was when I was a child. Piracetam/Noopept on their own, I do not know. The NAC and Lion's Mane synergy with Noopept creates a HUGE boost so keep that in mind. I remember reading some papers/anecdotes on this before but I cannot recall. As a result I set up the stack and I can confirm first hand.

And there is a significant difference between a little Piracetam and a nice full looking teaspoon's worth of it. I believe that the 4.8g idea was well thought out because it works for me. 4.8g feels more like a threshold dose than a megadose to say the least.

I am enjoying Noopept solo, so amplifying it sounds intriguing.

May I ask what exact differences you notice when Noopept is ingested solo, versus stacked with NAC + Lion's Mane?.