Does anyone know what happens if you mix C60 with H2O2, or if you mix a solution with dissolved C60?
Perchance is it as vigorous as this?
Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:10 AM
Posted 07 January 2013 - 12:32 AM
Edited by AdamI, 07 January 2013 - 12:32 AM.
Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:25 AM
Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:15 AM
I am not curious as to whether C60 is soluble in H2O2. I am curious as to whether it immediately catalyzes the reaction of H2O2 into H2O and O2.
In particular, suppose one drops C60 in Olive Oil into H2O2. Will O2 immediately form?
Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:34 AM
Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:33 PM
Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:46 PM
No. There is no evident reaction from either C60 dry powder or C60 in oil. Perhaps hydrated C60 would do something.I am not curious as to whether C60 is soluble in H2O2. I am curious as to whether it immediately catalyzes the reaction of H2O2 into H2O and O2.
In particular, suppose one drops C60 in Olive Oil into H2O2. Will O2 immediately form?
Edited by Turnbuckle, 07 January 2013 - 03:47 PM.
Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:18 PM
No. There is no evident reaction from either C60 dry powder or C60 in oil. Perhaps hydrated C60 would do something.
Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:31 PM
Edited by ClarkSims, 07 January 2013 - 07:40 PM.
Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:32 PM
Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:40 PM
No. There is no evident reaction from either C60 dry powder or C60 in oil. Perhaps hydrated C60 would do something.I am not curious as to whether C60 is soluble in H2O2. I am curious as to whether it immediately catalyzes the reaction of H2O2 into H2O and O2.
In particular, suppose one drops C60 in Olive Oil into H2O2. Will O2 immediately form?
Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:06 PM
No. There is no evident reaction from either C60 dry powder or C60 in oil. Perhaps hydrated C60 would do something.
I am stumped. I don't understand how C60 can protect against H2O2.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22642121
Preincubation of cells with 10(-5) M fullerene C60 was shown not only to prevent H2O2--induced AOF generation but to increase viability of H2O2-treated thymocytes at more prolonged time period. The data obtained indicate to fullerene C60 ability to prevent oxidative stress in thymocytes.
On another note, how can C60 protect against CCl4, like in the Baati experiment?
I can play around with chemestry equations and guess:
C60 + H2O + CCl4 ---> C60 + H+ + OH- + CCl3 + Cl-
----> C60- + H+ + Cl- + CCl3OH
Do this 3 more times and you get
3C60- + 4 H+ + 4CL4 + C(OH)4
C(OH)4 is a relatively harmless alcohol (I think)
I am purely speculating here. Does anyone have any insight on how CCl4 is neutralized ?
Edited by GVA, 14 January 2013 - 06:22 PM.
Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:49 AM
1. FYI: in this work authors used FAS - impure and very poor-quality analogue of C60FWS = water solution of C60HyFn.
2. It is assumed that in hepatocytes (liver cells) CCl4 turns into aggressive CL3COO*-radical. Therefore, in this case, the use of antioxidants is aimed first of all on struggle against such radicals
(e.g. see http://www.pjoes.com...5.3/365-374.pdf).
Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:57 AM
[1. FYI: in this work authors used FAS - impure and very poor-quality analogue of C60FWS = water solution of C60HyFn.
Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:01 AM
I am detecting a pattern here. It seems that the body breaks anything down in several steps, and often one of these steps involves something that is a free radical, or which can spontaneously decay into free radicals. It seems that the more common food stuffs, are processed more efficiently, and the unknown xenobiotic chemicals which aren't excreted by the kidney, are processed in a way that creates lots of free radicals.
It seems that even things the body knows, but which doesn't consume in large quantities produce lots of free radicals. For example ethanol is converted to acetaldhyde, which is unstable and can turn into free radicals.
The upshot of this observation, is that strong anti oxidants protect against all sorts of poisoning, and issues with food breakdown.
Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:06 PM
[1. FYI: in this work authors used FAS - impure and very poor-quality analogue of C60FWS = water solution of C60HyFn.
I just reread the abstract here
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22642121
I don't see them mentioning anything about their methods.
Perchance do you have access to the full paper?
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