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[Dinvestor]

Hi:

Would like to share experiences, etc. I'm interested in this nootropic for it's anxiolytic properties. Would really appreciate any feedback anyone could share.

Thx,
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[medievil]

I tried it in the past but that period my posts didnt make much sense or whatever, i consider myself having had predromal shizophrenia wich probably explains why.

[Dinvestor]

Hey Medievil:

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried it a few times and didn't really notice much either. Currently giving Ladasten a shot...

[medievil]

Give it a few weeks to work, how much did you buy it for?

[Dinvestor]

What are you recommending giving a few weeks to work the Selank or Ladasten?

[medievil]

Selank and send me the ladasten i recommened. (my recommedations come with a cost)

[Dinvestor]

Selank and send me the ladasten i recommened. (my recommedations come with a cost)

Not sure I understand what you mean...you recommended the Ladasten?

[medievil]

I mean send me all the ladasten to me for free, so you cant try it but i can.

[Dinvestor]

Oh, my bad...I'll just try it and you can tell me how I like it...How's that?

[medievil]

hmm for this time buddy.

[Dinvestor]

LOL...thanks again. Great chatting with you!

[unregistered_user]

This turned out to be an incredibly informative discourse.

Would read again. A++

[Introspecta]

haha. Amazing. I liked to give Selank a Shot but seems to be pretty expensive. 120 dollars for 10 days of doses@ Awake Brain.Does anyone know of a cheaper source?

Edited by joelski28, 03 July 2013 - 08:50 AM.

[figure9]

There are some research supply companies out there that sell Selank as a lyophilized powder, which in turn could be reconstituted into a nasal spray or injectable solution. Being as how compounds from such sources are intended for research however, there's little guarantee of quality and authenticity aside from Internet reputation. Keep in mind this advice is intended for non-human research, however whatever you do with your monkey is none of my business =)

[socialpiranha]

he is the legend that is medievil bow down and send him your drugs because he posted about them first....is what i got out of it.

i agree semi-retard very informative discourse

Hopefully this thread can get back on track

Selank- Tried it, didn't have enough to do proper experimentation but it felt nice, slightly opiatelike but i remember a strange type of headache i had never had before.

[unregistered_user]

In my searches I have not been able to locate what would be considered affordable sources for either Selank or Semax. It seems both of these drugs command a premium price, for whatever reason.

[Ekscentra]

he is the legend that is medievil bow down and send him your drugs because he posted about them first....is what i got out of it.

i agree semi-retard very informative discourse

Hopefully this thread can get back on track

Selank- Tried it, didn't have enough to do proper experimentation but it felt nice, slightly opiatelike but i remember a strange type of headache i had never had before.

 

I imagine it's been some time since you've last tried Selank, but I'd highly appreciate it if you could elaborate on this. Most comparisons regarding the anxiolytic effects of Selank involve benzos, not opiates. I've been looking for someone to mention opiate-like effects for some time, given Selank's ability to boost endorphins. Would you mind being more descriptive, if at all possible? Information on this substance is few and far between, and reports from this year are, as far as I can tell, non-existent. Your input would be invaluable. I've been incredibly interested in Selank for some time, but never ended up pulling the trigger. I did manage to find a relatively affordable source, but the purchasing process is incredibly tedious (I'm sure you know which one I'm referring to.) Either way, I'd imagine Selank would make an excellent alternative to benzos during my off-days. I certainly won't be using my prescribed clonazepam on a daily basis for fear of withdrawals and tolerance leading to dependence and, oh goody! More withdrawals. Better safe than sorry, but unfortunately, I don't have an everyday solution for anxiety at the moment. I have a good hunch this substance could end up being the one I'm looking for. Were the anxiolytic effects as efficacious as the benzos and opiates you may have experienced? How are the effects different in character? Is Selank perhaps both characteristic in some ways of opiates and benzos? Another source I've known of for some time is likely where I'll be purchasing in the future, should I become convinced again. The prices are much better than anywhere else I've found, although the minimum purchasing amounts are just mildly excessive. Either way, I figure it's more than worth a shot. Even if the anxiolytic effects don't particularly impress me, I'm sure the cognitive benefits will.

 

Furthermore, have you noticed any lingering positive effects after your Selank trial? Semax is often reported as having lasting amphetamine-like benefits in individuals after stopping treatment - increased focus, concentration, motivation, and as a result, overall productivity, and from the tone of those reports, I'd say the benefits were incredibly pronounced. I'd be interested if you've noticed anything like this with Selank, in terms of cognition and especially in terms of anxiety. I appreciate your time in replying to this post.

 

Apologies for bumping such an old thread, mods, but I feel it was necessary given that this is one of the more recent topics discussing Selank on these boards. It's better for me to continue an established topic than to begin a new one with such a specific inquiry. If anyone else has noticed opiate-like effects from Selank, I'd like to know in detail what you experienced, how you'd characterize the effects and, if possible, how you'd compare them to any opiates or benzos you may have experience with. Other GABAergics such as alcohol, GHB/GBL, and Phenibut are fine too. The descriptions out there right now on Selank are still quite vague. A little clarity would be incredibly helpful in digging a bit deeper with this substance, especially in regards to the anxiolytic effects in my case. Any bit of information, however useless it may seem, could prove a tremendous help. Don't be afraid to report your experiences and follow-ups, regardless of your writing ability or scientific merit. Even a one-liner summary on your experiences Is better than nothing. There's nothing wrong with being purely subjective at times. Anecdotal evidence, in my humble opinion, is every bit as important as objective evidence, albeit in entirely different ways - the yin and the yang of the scientific process. Without interpreting our results, our results cannot exist. Without looking at things objectively, one can never interpret to begin with. Objective evidence gives a putatively accepted definitive answer which, like all things, is not necessarily definitive at all. Subjective evidence shows variations to that "definitive" conclusion and helps us understand just how different of responses we can expect from individual to individual. Some substances are fairly consistent, others are seemingly as random as can be, psychedelics worst of all in this department. Subjective evidence is little more than fairy tales without objective evidence. Objective evidence serves no practical value without subjective evidence, though I suppose that would depend on your definition of practicality. Both must be present in order to see the full picture. That being said, right now, I'm just looking for the subjective experiences, and hopefully, with this, the pool of Selank users may see a little bit of expansion. Selank experience reports have been pretty dead lately. Any takers? I'd be ecstatic to see this substance start getting some much-deserved attention again.

 

And lastly, I'd like to know what you all think of various possible interactions involving Selank, as well as its therapeutic value in the treatment of withdrawal symptoms and comedowns - just hypothetical for now, and hopefully never anything more. Has anyone combined Selank with benzos? Opiates? Amphetamines? Semax or other novel nootropic substances? Nicotine, Caffeine, or other mild stimulants possibly? Even psychedelics, perhaps? Any information could be highly valuable here. Efficacy with benzo withdrawals? Opiate withdrawals? Stim withdrawals? I won't judge a former addict, as I've been down the same road myself. This is purely out of scientific and practical interest, I assure you. I remember reading a report of Selank alleviating the symptoms of an MDMA comedown (presumably adulterated with meth, as pure MDMA comedowns tend to be quite mild, if reports are to be believed as such.) Any other invaluable effects in the treatment of withdrawals/comedowns? I'd love to know if anyone has had any experience in this area. Given that Semax managed to treat the withdrawal symptoms of both SSRIs and MAOIs according to two different experience reports posted on Reddit, it could be extrapolated that Selank would exert a similar effect on other substances, given both their similar structures and Selank's opiate/benzo-like nature mentioned in multiple reports.  Hence, GABA modulators and opiates are the main culprits I've been looking at here. On another note, I imagine that Semax has more hidden potential in this area as well, but that's another discussion for another thread. If anyone would like to revive interest in this substance, now's a better time than ever. I'm not sure if this is against the forum rules, and feel free to remove this bit if it is, but I'd be more than happy to reply to any emails inquiring about sources, for those having difficulty finding one: mattdavebaker7@live.com

 

Good day folks, and enjoy your continued cognitive enhancement. This community gets more interesting by the day, I must say. Oh dear, did that rhyme? I'm afraid it did. Yes indeed! 

Edited by Ekscentra, 11 June 2014 - 06:54 PM.

[tolerant]

Here is a pretty affordable source of Selank and other Russian drugs: http://www.extraphar....ru/anxiolytics

 

I tried Selank and it did nothing for me. Although I didn't do a full "course". Isn't it funny that all Russian anxiolytic drugs (Afobazol, Selank, Phenibut, probably Picamilon too, I can't remember off the top of my head) require you to undergo a course of treatment lasting 2-4 weeks and they all claim nootropic and mild stimulant properties. This makes them different to any Western anxiolytics. From my experience, Pacamilon definitely works for anxiety, but it's an old Soviet drug. I am sure that Phenibut would work (I haven't tried it in a sufficient does yet), but has horrible addiction/withdrawal profile. But the newer types of drugs I would query, because all the research behind them can be just bought and is not to be trusted. (I have lived in Russia/former USSR for half of my life).

Edited by cryonicsculture, 01 July 2014 - 03:59 AM.

[Aleksei Adolshin]

I tried Selank last year and stopped because I didn't notice any effect, although I only used up one bottle. Switched to Semax and it worked wonders.

[UKLAD]

im waiting for 30mg vial from TeamTLR, if no good will try semax