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[LBGSHI]

I find this amusing, as it is a similar pattern I had when discussing with LBGSHI in a thread about collodial gold. For having not much time, I must say, you write an awful lot. It turns out that it becomes an endless debate about LBGSHI saying more studies! not enough evidence! quackery!

I haven't posted in this thread since February 4th, and we've already agreed that discussing evidence in this thread is pointless until more evidence becomes available. Why bring me up in this thread all over again, 10 days later?

As for the colloidal gold topic, I invite you to bring anyone else you like into your thread concerning colloidal gold and Dr Guy Abraham, and see if they don't agree with my conclusion that Abraham and his co-salesman appear to be quacks. Anyone interested can look here: http://www.longecity...ny-experiences/.

Other than that, I don't have anything specific to add. Let's allow this thread to continue its course.

Edited by LBGSHI, 14 February 2013 - 04:04 PM.

[machete234]

I was experimenting with binaural beats a few years ago before I even knew about nootropics this was more my meditation period.
In my experience you can reach different states with binaural beats for example sedation or drowsines is easy to achive through low beat frequencies as well as stimulation which for me came together with headaches etc and also this was only mentally stimulating not stimulating for the whole body.

Around the same time I developed a twitch in my eyelid that was very annoying and it went away some weeks or months after I quit the binaural beats.

Also Oster Curves are useful if you want to make your own beats, some scientist or whatever called Oster found out the carrier frequencies at which a beat of a certain frequency can be best heard.
So you can save time finding a suitable carrier frequency for your beat.

http://www.the-guide...ster-curve.html

[vtrader]

Tried the youtube 1 hour vid, diffently felt more wide eyed and alert. It felt like it had a sub-vocalising suppresion effect, for example when I try to read afterwords, it was uncomfortable to read while sub-vocalising, great if I could speed read. Felt more centered as well.
Practically I did not see any improvement, tried DNB, not much of a difference, except because I had trouble sub-vocalising, I could not verbally track the sequences. So poor score then normal. Reading wise, I felt I could see the entire page, had trouble focusing on single lines, could not really read at normal rate.
However on the negative, my heart started to race and become heavy, but I think this is more of a result of my high level of anxiety being triggered easily.
Is there a preset to deal with anxiety/depression/mood?

[OpaqueMind]

In the studies of the master monk meditators who reached states of 100hz+ (hyper-gamma), the high frequency waves were always buried in very low frequency waves, around 0.5hz or less (epsilon). This nestling pattern is also seen on EEG readings of more typical meditators, whereby gamma waves which correspond to subjective moments of transcendence (40hz+) arise predominantly within alpha/theta states.

The resting brainwaves of people with substantial meditation experience are lower than those of non-meditators, which usually reside in the beta range. If, as this pattern seems to indicate, a lower basal frequency is required to sustain higher frequencies for time, then this may explain the discrepancy between the results we are seeing.

I experience a very noticeable adjustment to my consciousness while using gamma binaurals, and I've also been meditating around an hour a day for about a year. It seems some other users who report tangible benefits also have meditation experience... perhaps a poll could point to the answer? I'd make one but alas, I'm on a tiny screened smartphone.

I also think a significant use of drugs, or severe mental health problems, could impact the results, as these tend to disrupt, or are symptomatic of disrupted whole brainwave synchronisation, which if the above theory is correct, is determinant of the ability to sustain gamma waves for time.

[Godof Smallthings]

In the studies of the master monk meditators who reached states of 100hz+ (hyper-gamma), the high frequency waves were always buried in very low frequency waves, around 0.5hz or less (epsilon). This nestling pattern is also seen on EEG readings of more typical meditators, whereby gamma waves which correspond to subjective moments of transcendence (40hz+) arise predominantly within alpha/theta states.

This is interesting. Do you have a source for more info?

[OpaqueMind]

In the studies of the master monk meditators who reached states of 100hz+ (hyper-gamma), the high frequency waves were always buried in very low frequency waves, around 0.5hz or less (epsilon). This nestling pattern is also seen on EEG readings of more typical meditators, whereby gamma waves which correspond to subjective moments of transcendence (40hz+) arise predominantly within alpha/theta states.

This is interesting. Do you have a source for more info?

No I don't sorry, I read about epsilon and hyper-gamma waves a while ago. But google is your friend

[BLimitless]

I tried BwGen but it crashes with an error, any ideas? Win 7 64-bit... Got GNaural though, if only there were a way to convert BWGen to Gnaural...

[Shay]

I tried BwGen but it crashes with an error, any ideas? Win 7 64-bit... Got GNaural though, if only there were a way to convert BWGen to Gnaural...

Run in win 98 emulation mode.

[Mr. Pink]

i've been playing with brain entrainment for years. binaural beats, isochronic tones (stronger entrainment than binaural, no headphones required, google it), as well as monaural beats, 2way (combo of binaural and monoraul), and harmonic box x (also very strong form), and there was another type, where one of your hemispheres is entrained to one frequency, and the other hemisphere to another - these had the most profound effect.

for whatever reason, binaural is the most popular, but definitely not the most potent. in any case, i respond well to most of these entrainment types. i feel a very strong effect from most of them. some make me feel more awake, some help with sleep, some make me feel more spiritual, and i've had lucid dreams on others, etc. etc.

but, as far as nootropic effect goes, i've never felt any kind of improvement in memory from any form of entrainment. i would have to see some placebo controlled trials to believe this, just because i've had so much personal experience with them, and really sounds like any memory effects would be placebo.

here are some of my favorite isochronic tones, and they're free: http://iso-tones.com/index.php/tones

[BLimitless]

I tried BwGen but it crashes with an error, any ideas? Win 7 64-bit... Got GNaural though, if only there were a way to convert BWGen to Gnaural...

Run in win 98 emulation mode.

I tried that, didn't work. I'm guessing it doesn't like 64-bit systems; going to give it a go using 32-bit Windows XP in a virtual machine; hopefully that does it.

[BLimitless]

I can confirm that if anyone has issues with BWGen on 64-bit systems, you can install a 32-bit Windows OS in a virtual machine using VMWare Player for free and it will work there. Who knows why it doesn't work in Win64 but at least it's all good :D

[Heh]

Anyone having problems with BWGen can install Neuro-Programmer 3.

[Absent]

Hey Guys,

I stopped listening to any BWE about a week ago. It was literally becoming impossible to sleep and if I did get to sleep out of some sort of heavy drug-induction, I would always wake up within a couple of hours with a very awake and energized mind. It felt like my mind was being forced into high gear. I needed my sleep. Like, it was BAD. I began to get very depressed and I wasn't able to work out because my body wasn't healing during sleep. Sometime during this period, I could still feel the Gamma effects, such as heightened cognition, increased apathy towards things, yet this carried over into depression. I honestly considered blowing my brains out a few times.... though this is primarily due to inability to sleep. When I can't sleep I start feeling like shit. These side effects cleared up when I stopped listening to Gamma and was able to get back to sleep.

I started listening to both pink&white noise a week ago, with no BWE, and as far as I can tell, there's nothing noticable. The Gamma BWE had extremely noticable effects on my cognition... all the pink/white noise does is allow my mind to relax just a little... though nothing more than a very light meditation session. The Gamma-effects are slowly lessening and I have been able to get back to my sleep cycle with the help of a little melatonin.

As great as the Gamma BWE effects are... it doesn't seen viable right now to do them because it just impacts my sleep far too much. With this being said, perhaps people can experiment with long-term usage of other frequencies that wont impact sleep.

[BLimitless]

Have you considered using harmala alkaloids? I can get all of the effects you are describing in the OP using just plain breath meditation on some syrian rue tea. It seems to put you into the high gamma naturally and controllably. That said, it is a very powerful wakefulness promoter, more so than caffeine. Unlike caffeine however its mechanism of wakefulness promotion lets you go to sleep at the drop of a hat and melatonin synthesis is improved. Though it's hard to go to sleep on this stuff because you wouldn't want to, as you're having too much fun, it needs a bit of self control

[machete234]

Anyone having problems with BWGen can install Neuro-Programmer 3.

Or gnaural or SBaGEn, you dont have to set up a virtual machine

As great as the Gamma BWE effects are... it doesn't seen viable right now to do them because it just impacts my sleep far too much. With this being said, perhaps people can experiment with long-term usage of other frequencies that wont impact sleep.

You could use other frequencies like alpha, it doesnt have to be gamma, or even lower frequencies to help you sleep

I also used a program called atmosphere deluxe v6 with which you could create sound files by mixing a lot of samples like 10 different types of rainfall, birds, the ocean etc together.
Basically you could orchestrate a place in nature that you imagined with changing weather condidtion etc.

After creating this sound file I would lay a binaural beat behind it with one of the typical programs in my case sbagen but that should be possible with all of the BB programs.

Edited by machete234, 17 February 2013 - 10:50 AM.

[Godof Smallthings]

I don't run any gamma sessions later than early afternoon, and have no sleep issues. A ramp down through alpha to theta before bed should take care of feeling to wound up from gamma stimulation.

[motorcitykid]

Hey Guys,

I stopped listening to any BWE about a week ago. It was literally becoming impossible to sleep and if I did get to sleep out of some sort of heavy drug-induction, I would always wake up within a couple of hours with a very awake and energized mind. It felt like my mind was being forced into high gear. I needed my sleep. Like, it was BAD. I began to get very depressed and I wasn't able to work out because my body wasn't healing during sleep. Sometime during this period, I could still feel the Gamma effects, such as heightened cognition, increased apathy towards things, yet this carried over into depression. I honestly considered blowing my brains out a few times.... though this is primarily due to inability to sleep. When I can't sleep I start feeling like shit. These side effects cleared up when I stopped listening to Gamma and was able to get back to sleep.

I started listening to both pink&white noise a week ago, with no BWE, and as far as I can tell, there's nothing noticable. The Gamma BWE had extremely noticable effects on my cognition... all the pink/white noise does is allow my mind to relax just a little... though nothing more than a very light meditation session. The Gamma-effects are slowly lessening and I have been able to get back to my sleep cycle with the help of a little melatonin.

As great as the Gamma BWE effects are... it doesn't seen viable right now to do them because it just impacts my sleep far too much. With this being said, perhaps people can experiment with long-term usage of other frequencies that wont impact sleep.

An overload of gamma waves via bin -beats will induce feelings of empathy, pushing toward deprssion. It's fun to play around with binaural beats but the novelty of it could distract a person to what it's actually doing..putting them out of balance.

Neurofeedback has a lot more to offer than Bin-beats entrainment.
A brain map(QEEG) might reveal a certain individual needs to SUPPRESS gamma waves and increase Beta in order to have greater flexibility of mind in everday experiences. It's all guess work until the QEEG.

[machete234]

Neurofeedback has a lot more to offer than Bin-beats entrainment.
A brain map(QEEG) might reveal a certain individual needs to SUPPRESS gamma waves and increase Beta in order to have greater flexibility of mind in everday experiences. It's all guess work until the QEEG.

Well, you didnt mention that neurofeedback can be very expensive

[motorcitykid]

Neurofeedback has a lot more to offer than Bin-beats entrainment.
A brain map(QEEG) might reveal a certain individual needs to SUPPRESS gamma waves and increase Beta in order to have greater flexibility of mind in everday experiences. It's all guess work until the QEEG.

Well, you didnt mention that neurofeedback can be very expensive

Some medical insurance companies cover a QEEG and NF therapy. If you have a medically related issue(insomnia, anxiety) you might qualify for treatment, and reap some of the benefits of peak mental performance.;-)
.

[Rethar]

Hey Guys,

I stopped listening to any BWE about a week ago. It was literally becoming impossible to sleep and if I did get to sleep out of some sort of heavy drug-induction, I would always wake up within a couple of hours with a very awake and energized mind. It felt like my mind was being forced into high gear. I needed my sleep. Like, it was BAD. I began to get very depressed and I wasn't able to work out because my body wasn't healing during sleep. Sometime during this period, I could still feel the Gamma effects, such as heightened cognition, increased apathy towards things, yet this carried over into depression. I honestly considered blowing my brains out a few times.... though this is primarily due to inability to sleep. When I can't sleep I start feeling like shit. These side effects cleared up when I stopped listening to Gamma and was able to get back to sleep.

I started listening to both pink&white noise a week ago, with no BWE, and as far as I can tell, there's nothing noticable. The Gamma BWE had extremely noticable effects on my cognition... all the pink/white noise does is allow my mind to relax just a little... though nothing more than a very light meditation session. The Gamma-effects are slowly lessening and I have been able to get back to my sleep cycle with the help of a little melatonin.

As great as the Gamma BWE effects are... it doesn't seen viable right now to do them because it just impacts my sleep far too much. With this being said, perhaps people can experiment with long-term usage of other frequencies that wont impact sleep.

Wow, I had a very similar reaction but I wasn't sure if it was just me but this is what happened. So at first (maybe a day or two after the start of this thread) when I was doing 30minutes of 40hz a day it seemed to make me less depressed, like at the end of the day I'd actually look forward to getting to "tomorrow" instead of being depressed about the day ending. The increased focus was great, I had much fewer brainfog moments like say temporarily spacing out when listening to something on TV, and it was much easier to focus on work-related things I was doing. Plus I seemed to more easily come up with things in conversations quicker. Also noticed the decreased emotions but it didn't bother me that much as I could still feel emotions during some things but overall it was like my emotions were stuck at an energized and content state without being able to vary.

After about a week into it I listening to 30minutes of the 40hz again but I noticed it wasn't giving me as much of a change (though I remember still being focused, maybe I was already in the focused state and that's why it wasn't giving me anything "additional"). So I thought I'd try running the entrainment throughout the day to make me even more energized (probably a few hours total). This is when the problems started.

That day I had a lot of focus, got a lot of work done, so I didn't think there was anything wrong with listening to it this much, and I kept going on with it. About two days later I noticed this bizarre different type of depression. It felt like I couldn't connect with anything emotionally, and because of that, part of me started getting depressed over lacking that connection. Way different than a "normal" depression type of feeling. It was so strange but I didn't connect it with the gamma entrainment so I continued it. It went on for about 3 days. I noticed I became extremely stressed trying to do any work at all. And one night I had a friend over and we were drinking watching one of our favorite tv shows and I could barely enjoy watching it. The alcohol also barely phased me (kind of interesting actually, it's like my mind was resistant to it), I stayed aware of what was going on the whole time and stayed in that stressed out state.

So anyways a few days ago I started to wonder if it was the gamma sessions so I tried out some other frequencies. First I tried 30 minutes of 20hz(beta). Focus increased but made me really anxious(I already have anxiety problems) so that wasn't really pleasant. Then I tried 15hz which felt pretty good, I was still stressed though. Then I tried some alpha entrainment (8.5hz) and that made me feel way better and gave me back some of that emotional connection ability and I could actually get some work done again. I haven't used any gamma in about 3 days now. I think the key is to use it in moderation, so I think I will sometime go back to using it but maybe only 20minutes a day or something low so that it doesn't send me into that weird type of stress/depression. I did like the feeling it gave me being excited for the next day to come. BTW the entire time I was using isochronic tones not binaurals.

[Heh]

Hey Guys,

I stopped listening to any BWE about a week ago. It was literally becoming impossible to sleep and if I did get to sleep out of some sort of heavy drug-induction, I would always wake up within a couple of hours with a very awake and energized mind. It felt like my mind was being forced into high gear. I needed my sleep. Like, it was BAD. I began to get very depressed and I wasn't able to work out because my body wasn't healing during sleep. Sometime during this period, I could still feel the Gamma effects, such as heightened cognition, increased apathy towards things, yet this carried over into depression. I honestly considered blowing my brains out a few times.... though this is primarily due to inability to sleep. When I can't sleep I start feeling like shit. These side effects cleared up when I stopped listening to Gamma and was able to get back to sleep.

I started listening to both pink&white noise a week ago, with no BWE, and as far as I can tell, there's nothing noticable. The Gamma BWE had extremely noticable effects on my cognition... all the pink/white noise does is allow my mind to relax just a little... though nothing more than a very light meditation session. The Gamma-effects are slowly lessening and I have been able to get back to my sleep cycle with the help of a little melatonin.

As great as the Gamma BWE effects are... it doesn't seen viable right now to do them because it just impacts my sleep far too much. With this being said, perhaps people can experiment with long-term usage of other frequencies that wont impact sleep.

Wow, I had a very similar reaction but I wasn't sure if it was just me but this is what happened. So at first (maybe a day or two after the start of this thread) when I was doing 30minutes of 40hz a day it seemed to make me less depressed, like at the end of the day I'd actually look forward to getting to "tomorrow" instead of being depressed about the day ending. The increased focus was great, I had much fewer brainfog moments like say temporarily spacing out when listening to something on TV, and it was much easier to focus on work-related things I was doing. Plus I seemed to more easily come up with things in conversations quicker. Also noticed the decreased emotions but it didn't bother me that much as I could still feel emotions during some things but overall it was like my emotions were stuck at an energized and content state without being able to vary.

After about a week into it I listening to 30minutes of the 40hz again but I noticed it wasn't giving me as much of a change (though I remember still being focused, maybe I was already in the focused state and that's why it wasn't giving me anything "additional"). So I thought I'd try running the entrainment throughout the day to make me even more energized (probably a few hours total). This is when the problems started.

That day I had a lot of focus, got a lot of work done, so I didn't think there was anything wrong with listening to it this much, and I kept going on with it. About two days later I noticed this bizarre different type of depression. It felt like I couldn't connect with anything emotionally, and because of that, part of me started getting depressed over lacking that connection. Way different than a "normal" depression type of feeling. It was so strange but I didn't connect it with the gamma entrainment so I continued it. It went on for about 3 days. I noticed I became extremely stressed trying to do any work at all. And one night I had a friend over and we were drinking watching one of our favorite tv shows and I could barely enjoy watching it. The alcohol also barely phased me (kind of interesting actually, it's like my mind was resistant to it), I stayed aware of what was going on the whole time and stayed in that stressed out state.

So anyways a few days ago I started to wonder if it was the gamma sessions so I tried out some other frequencies. First I tried 30 minutes of 20hz(beta). Focus increased but made me really anxious(I already have anxiety problems) so that wasn't really pleasant. Then I tried 15hz which felt pretty good, I was still stressed though. Then I tried some alpha entrainment (8.5hz) and that made me feel way better and gave me back some of that emotional connection ability and I could actually get some work done again. I haven't used any gamma in about 3 days now. I think the key is to use it in moderation, so I think I will sometime go back to using it but maybe only 20minutes a day or something low so that it doesn't send me into that weird type of stress/depression. I did like the feeling it gave me being excited for the next day to come. BTW the entire time I was using isochronic tones not binaurals.

40Hz isn't safe if played for more than 30-60 minutes. If you'd like to play something all day, then set the frequency to 7.83Hz or 10Hz.

[LeonardElijah]

Interesting. Great stuff.

Bill Harris has studies in which measured levels of DHEA and other hormones went up by 36% after using binaural beats.

I hear a voice sometimes, more like quiet thoughts from something outside myself that come to me. It said recently "It's Gish. It's Gish. It's Gish." I thought "Was 1979 on Gish?" It said "It's Gish. It's Gish."

I look this stuff up. Turns out, Billy Corgan's artwork was through the Spirit on Gish. He was "just getting done with his psychedellic phase" and "had a nervous breakdown" producing Gish. It's something I get now that I didn't used to.

If I tried to take myself seriously as an artist, I would make a "transformations" product out of binaural beats by extending Holosync. First, there would be a free iPhone/Android/Windows app that lets you select common binaural sessions and it would keep a log of which sessions you've done. Second, there would be a sublingual Methyl-B12, Methyl-B9, Tri-Methyl-Glycine, a subscription vitamin.

We would have studies about how DMT production goes up 36% instead of studies on how DHEA goes up 36%. We would sell personal evolution, explaining it as a real world Diablo II product. Every day you meditate on a topic you creatively re-arrange the topics, identify with what you like, individuate against what you don't, and gain otherworldy practical inspiration at solving problems, etc.

Binaural beats can be marketed as the Adult Transformations DMT release product.

I'm done with my rant. Keep posting on binaural beats.

[csrpj]

Have you considered using harmala alkaloids? I can get all of the effects you are describing in the OP using just plain breath meditation on some syrian rue tea. It seems to put you into the high gamma naturally and controllably. That said, it is a very powerful wakefulness promoter, more so than caffeine. Unlike caffeine however its mechanism of wakefulness promotion lets you go to sleep at the drop of a hat and melatonin synthesis is improved. Though it's hard to go to sleep on this stuff because you wouldn't want to, as you're having too much fun, it needs a bit of self control

Of syrian rue and caapi, do you find one works better for you?

[CognitionCoefficient]

This is something that we should expect to manifest in improved working memory performance if the claims are true.

Per Wikipedia:

Based on the association between theta activity (4–7 Hz) and working memory performance, biofeedback training suggests that normal healthy individuals can learn to increase a specific component of their EEG activity, and that such enhanced activity may facilitate a working memory task and to a lesser extent focused attention.[47]

I use the Brain Workshop program to train on, and I find it a useful benchmark once I've plateued and I want to test various nootropics and interventions for their effects on that domain. Working memory is not one-for-one fluid intelligence, but they're strongly related.

Source: http://brainworkshop...t/download.html

[Dissolvedissolve]

Have you considered using harmala alkaloids? I can get all of the effects you are describing in the OP using just plain breath meditation on some syrian rue tea. It seems to put you into the high gamma naturally and controllably. That said, it is a very powerful wakefulness promoter, more so than caffeine. Unlike caffeine however its mechanism of wakefulness promotion lets you go to sleep at the drop of a hat and melatonin synthesis is improved. Though it's hard to go to sleep on this stuff because you wouldn't want to, as you're having too much fun, it needs a bit of self control

Is there a thread or something you can link to discussing this usage? Dose, method, etc? I have no interest in it at psychedelic-like doses, but usage as a stimulant seems interesting.

[BLimitless]

Have you considered using harmala alkaloids? I can get all of the effects you are describing in the OP using just plain breath meditation on some syrian rue tea. It seems to put you into the high gamma naturally and controllably. That said, it is a very powerful wakefulness promoter, more so than caffeine. Unlike caffeine however its mechanism of wakefulness promotion lets you go to sleep at the drop of a hat and melatonin synthesis is improved. Though it's hard to go to sleep on this stuff because you wouldn't want to, as you're having too much fun, it needs a bit of self control

Is there a thread or something you can link to discussing this usage? Dose, method, etc? I have no interest in it at psychedelic-like doses, but usage as a stimulant seems interesting.

Actually to get the gamma style effects, you have to take a high dose, the kind that will knock you flat on your back and turn your entire visual field into one long tracer. You will be very shaky, twitchy yet sedated at this dose due to AChE inhibition which is necessary. Then you meditate and bring the body back to sober stability. The resulting neural alignment caused by realigning the motor cortex into correct firing response puts you into a high gamma brainwave state. I would not recommend this for anyone but an experienced meditator; there is danger of death from MAOI interaction too.

There are a few threads on this; here's one I made earlier - http://www.longecity...ine-users-read/
However this one does not touch on the gamma entrainment effects but it does discuss the KYNA metabolite inhibiting effects - harmalas are a brilliant nootropic in that regard.

Of syrian rue and caapi, do you find one works better for you?

A combination of both works better than either on its own; I'd say: caapi + rue > caapi alone > rue alone; only as caapi has tetrahydroharmine which is brilliant in itself, but most of the time I use rue tea boiled in lemon juice. Usually I'll drink 10g of weak rue (strong rue = 4g at most required) and then drink a tea of 10-20g caapi. This will send me into the spinny state required for the gamma mode and the THH from the caapi has a nice touch.

However at stimulant doses (e.g. 3g rue), you will get less gamma entrainment. It is still possible to go into high gamma by means of deep abdominal breathing. You need to constantly flood your body with air over and over again and this will also put you in gamma. Good breathing puts you in gamma a lot more than any kind of substance for that matter.


I will add though that playing binaurals or isotones with harmalas potentiates them manyfold, so gamma entrainment is much easier with this stuff.

Edited by BLimitless, 19 February 2013 - 12:34 PM.

[greyarate]

Interesting to see a topic on this here. I played around with binaural and isochronic tones on and off for a few months about 2 years ago. I definitely used to notice a tangible difference. I varied between using Apps on a phone to using I-Doser mp3 files. I can't remember exactly why I stopped but I think use of these tones was at least partially responsible for my development of tinnitus, which I still suffer from today.

I remember having good success with the files meant to improve energy and also the ones designed to induce sleep. I once used one of the sleep tracks to quickly fall asleep in an unfamilar enviornment (hostel) which is normally difficult for me.

I do have some vague recollection that I may have ended up with depression at some point after their use too although unfortunately I never kept any kind of logs or diary.

It's certainly an interesting area but there definitely needs to be more well designed studies undertaken to prove any measureable effects.

[Absent]

I would like to clarify again that the Gamma itself did not cause any of the mental issues. It was the lack of sleep that caused them. If I had been able to get to sleep, or not need sleep, then the Gamma would have only produced positive results. The mental stimulation was awesome and I quite enjoyed the emotional disconnect from everything. I never really liked people all that much.

Entraining to Gamma more or less prevented my brainwaves from fully relaxing that night to go to sleep, throwing my balance off so to speak. It's also the same reason I don't want to do Alpha Entrainment. I much prefer to have high brainwave activity during the day, minimizing emotion, which seems to happen at high frequencies. Emotion connections and pulls tends to distract me from my work, as cold as it sounds.

Now I suppose a person could do Gamma during the day, then Alpha/Theta/Delta around there before going to sleep.... but then there is the issue that the brain does not stay in 1 particular brainwave pattern during sleep. When you dream it's activate, deep sleep it's not. So binaural beats just don't really seem to be very practical way to altar your brainwaves. It clearly works but the brain and it's cycles are very complex and I don't think it's healthy to artificially lock it into any particular cycle for long periods. It would be like being on crystal meth, or heroin 24/7, depending on your frequencies. The beats just don't seem to allow for much change in your brainwaves after listening to them. Maybe this is just my experience. All I know is, they have a very heavy impact on me.

[alecnevsky]

Why would anyone want to induce gamma/beta waves ? I find best performance comes from a semi-relaxed, collected state. (i.e., alpha waves.) Just b/c your brain is hopped up (whether by meth or binaural entrainment) does not imply an efficient thinking state, but rather stress, ocd, mania and other self-analytical pursuits that probably make you inefficient and therefore unproductive. "Keep calm and carry on."

[alecnevsky]

Does anyone know what frequency this music is?

I find it very effective and, unlike binaural "beats," it's actually more than noise.