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[YoungSchizo]

what are you talking about? from my sources, hashish is highly potent THC extract. people smoking hashish have been fucked up beyond belief. Unless I am completely misunderstanding??

As the active ingredient of hashish is THC, it has the same effects as cannabis. The most well known effect of hashish is a euphoric, drowsy, sedated effect. A certain relief of anxiety is often reported.^[19] During a high, the user experiences a distortion of time and space.<sup>[20]

nope, i guess i got it right.</sup>

Are you a troll or acting like one. Please God help this guy.

[gamesguru]

There is but I have no idea what it is, haven't looked it up and the ones I bought weren't labeled as a certain strain. Although I have noticed differences between strains, could be indica/sativa or CBD content related.

 

Indica definitely looks shorter and more squat as a plant, but just examining the buds it can be hard to tell them apart.

My experience of sativas is mostly stimulating and scattery; I find it hard to sit still or enjoy myself.

 

Myrcene is thought to be the major factor here, to contribute to the "sedative" effect.  According to results compiled here, it is higher in indica plants.  The effects may be due directly to GABA-A activity[1], and it should be mild enough not to cause dependence like benzos.

 

CBD is likely also involved[1][2].  Unfortunately the lab percentages are mostly botched, but ideally you want to be below or in the range of 20:1 ~ 50:1 of THC:CBD ratio.

 

The amount of time the bud or concentrate is store on the shelf may also influence the effects.  Over time things degrade down into CBN (cannabinol), which I was told had a "dirty" profile of effects.

[YoungSchizo]

Indica definitely looks shorter and more squat as a plant, but just examining the buds it can be hard to tell them apart.

My experience of sativas is mostly stimulating and scattery; I find it hard to sit still or enjoy myself.

 

Myrcene is thought to be the major factor here, to contribute to the "sedative" effect.  According to results compiled here, it is higher in indica plants.  The effects may be due directly to GABA-A activity[1], and it should be mild enough not to cause dependence like benzos.

 

CBD is likely also involved[1][2].  Unfortunately the lab percentages are mostly botched, but ideally you want to be below or in the range of 20:1 ~ 50:1 of THC:CBD ratio.

 

The amount of time the bud or concentrate is store on the shelf may also influence the effects.  Over time things degrade down into CBN (cannabinol), which I was told had a "dirty" profile of effects.

 

I know the difference in indica vs sativa strains with THC. THC indica is supposed to be mellow/relaxing due to higher CBD content and sativa is supposed to get you more stoned/"tripping" due to lower amounts of CBD.

 

However I do not know the difference of indica and sativa strains with pure CBD strains. And/or what it means on the effects it can have on someone.

 

-edit- Here is a good article about CBD indica vs sativa... Conclusion: with pure CBD it doesn't really matter if it's indica or sativa..

Edited by YoungSchizo, 11 March 2020 - 06:02 PM.

[gamesguru]

I know the difference in indica vs sativa strains with THC. THC indica is supposed to be mellow/relaxing due to higher CBD content and sativa is supposed to get you more stoned/"tripping" due to lower amounts of CBD.

 

However I do not know the difference of indica and sativa strains with pure CBD strains. And/or what it means on the effects it can have on someone.

 

-edit- Here is a good article about CBD indica vs sativa... Conclusion: with pure CBD it doesn't really matter if it's indica or sativa..

 

CORRECTION: more stoned more heady/"tripping"  <-- sativa

 

The myrcene also matters.  I've tried Sour Tsunami which is about 15% THC and 10% CBD, and there was still that trippy, heady sativa feel.

 

CBD on its own have very little to no psychoactive effect.  Combining it would myrcene (in an indica strain) would be expected to yield more sedative, anti-anxiety, stoney feeling.

 

That's why Cannatonic have more sedative/"stoned" feeling than the 75/25 sativa-dominant Harlequin strain.  Neither possess dopamine effects or produce a "recreational experience", even less psychoactive than green tea perhaps.

[YoungSchizo]

CORRECTION: more stoned more heady/"tripping"  <-- sativa

 

The myrcene also matters.  I've tried Sour Tsunami which is about 15% THC and 10% CBD, and there was still that trippy, heady sativa feel.

 

CBD on its own have very little to no psychoactive effect.  Combining it would myrcene (in an indica strain) would be expected to yield more sedative, anti-anxiety, stoney feeling.

 

That's why Cannatonic have more sedative/"stoned" feeling than the 75/25 sativa-dominant Harlequin strain.  Neither possess dopamine effects or produce a "recreational experience", even less psychoactive than green tea perhaps.

 

Since I'm schizo and can't handle THC (smoking THC equals a psychotic episode in me until the THC has worn off) I notice that when smoking pure CBD strains it trigger a minor psychoactive reaction in me due to traces of THC but due to it's low content THC and high CBD it's without voices and "crushes" anxiety.

Also, since I'm feeling tense all day due to antipsychotics I kinda like it that CBD takes away the tension I'm feeling.

 

The Cannatonic and Harlequin strains are also available as pure CBD but they are US strains and haven't made it to Europe yet afaik.

 

And I've been told by several storemanagers that a lot of CBD oil manufacturers have THC traces in them (including the brand I have right now) but I never noticed a psychoactive reaction to it. It rather works quite well and smooth on my depression. I guess it's because it absorbs differently, dunno..

[sedentary]

Are you a troll or acting like one. Please God help this guy.

 

i just pasted from wikipedia and im a troll? which god should be helping me anyway and in what way??

[YoungSchizo]

i just pasted from wikipedia and im a troll? which god should be helping me anyway and in what way??

Take my hand, I'll help you out my son.

I'm talking about CBD hashish which doesn't contain THC and therefore it can't make someone crazy.

You understand now my son?

[sedentary]

you were rude. called me names and said i need help.... you need to work on your manners buddy.

[YoungSchizo]

you were rude. called me names and said i need help.... you need to work on your manners buddy.

Haha what? Where? When?

[YoungSchizo]

 

 

Myrcene is thought to be the major factor here, to contribute to the "sedative" effect.  According to results compiled here, it is higher in indica plants.  The effects may be due directly to GABA-A activity[1], and it should be mild enough not to cause dependence like benzos.

 

 

 

Do you have experience with dabbing cannabis kristals and wax? Using (extracts/concentrate) kristals and wax is a very fast growing and trending way to get the most benefical/effective way to induce higher amounts THC/CBD in your system. Whereas from a THC/CBD strain you get 10/15% (depending of the strain strength) in your system and with kristals/wax you get up to 95% THC/CBD in your system instantly.

 

I bought a dabbing starters vape-pen and I'm gonna try the CBD kirstals within 2 weeks and over a month the wax.

[gamesguru]

Do you have experience with dabbing cannabis kristals and wax? Using (extracts/concentrate) kristals and wax is a very fast growing and trending way to get the most benefical/effective way to induce higher amounts THC/CBD in your system. Whereas from a THC/CBD strain you get 10/15% (depending of the strain strength) in your system and with kristals/wax you get up to 95% THC/CBD in your system instantly.

 

I bought a dabbing starters vape-pen and I'm gonna try the CBD kirstals within 2 weeks and over a month the wax.

CBD extract is more crystalline, more susceptible to pyrolysis (and VOC formation), has a higher boiling point, and a greater specific heat capacity than THC.  Therefore tends to be harsh when dabbed, leading to pronounced nociceptive activity and a constrictive, burning or plasticizing sensation within the epithelia of the larynx and trachea.

As for waxes and myrcene, my guess is that, again, indica strains still have more.  The wax extraction process doesn't result in significant thermal or chemical degradation and it should be carried through.

It did lead to a more relaxed state of mind.  Perhaps even a bit spaced out or deleterious, but that is debatable.  I don't know that CBD has any special psychoactive property, not very much.

I think wax can be a problem for tolerance, and it is often a way to salvage weak bud.  I have seen some very potent cannabis buds, but generally on the black market.  Nothing wrong with some good indica bud.

Wax also tends to cause lung irritation, especially when consumed on traditional titanium nail and dome[1].  Better to use quartz banger or e-nail at lower temperature, or to use edible products.

[YoungSchizo]

Damn the very purest forms of CBD like crystal's (90%) and waxes (70%) are a expensive waste of money, no therapeutic effects whatsoever. (Not even a placebo effect, simply no effects at all)

 

As I already told with smoking 'pure' CBD strains I didn't hallucinate but felt kinda stoned due to the traces of THC (and other cannabinoids I guess) and therefore I put myself to the test and smoked 19% THC 1% CBD for the past several weeks. My mind has recovered from the damage it has taken 15 years ago and I no longer hear the 'devil' residing in my mind. Though I do however react differently to THC than before my first psychosis 15 years ago and I don't like it's effects as much anymore, it makes me depressed when sober and works therapeutic when tipsy/drunk.

 

'Pure' CBD strains on the other hand are quite therapeutic which I can smoke all day long but it's just to expensive since it's not covered as a medicine for mental ailments.

 

My conclusion so far is that if you can find the right ratio THC:CBD it can make quite a difference on mental symptoms but 100% pure CBD has no therapeutic effects whatsoever, I guess THC and CBD need each other.

[gamesguru]

It's quite possible the benefits depend on the THC and CBD mixtures.  That's how it is with caffeine and theanine.  I think a lot of people end up overdoing it though because of the addictiveness.  THC is best enjoyed at 5-10mg, a few times daily.  Any more and you start to lose the antidepressant and creativity promoting effects.  I suspect there are better options for treating negative schizophrenia, but in moderation i doubt cannabis is too detrimental.

 

Also remember most of the studies reporting therapeutic effect (with CBD monotherapy) are at least in the 100-200mg range, and some are even up to 500mg daily.  So to see effects, you would need to consume at least a gram of high % CBD wax weekly.  And probably the effects are not all acute, need to be patient.  The costs should be coming down in the next decade

[YoungSchizo]

It's quite possible the benefits depend on the THC and CBD mixtures.  That's how it is with caffeine and theanine.  I think a lot of people end up overdoing it though because of the addictiveness.  THC is best enjoyed at 5-10mg, a few times daily.  Any more and you start to lose the antidepressant and creativity promoting effects.  I suspect there are better options for treating negative schizophrenia, but in moderation i doubt cannabis is too detrimental.

 

Also remember most of the studies reporting therapeutic effect (with CBD monotherapy) are at least in the 100-200mg range, and some are even up to 500mg daily.  So to see effects, you would need to consume at least a gram of high % CBD wax weekly.  And probably the effects are not all acute, need to be patient.  The costs should be coming down in the next decade

 

How do you take 5-10mg THC/CBD? In what form? And what method do you use to extract the THC/CBD?

 

I bought a expensive all-in-one electronic vaporizer but it's really crap for extracting and smoking little amounts of weed, wax or crystals, don't like it at all.

 

I agree with taking little amounts to benefit from it but the problem is I'm still smoking it old school with tobacco to extract it and to have immediate effects.

[gamesguru]

How do you take 5-10mg THC/CBD? In what form? And what method do you use to extract the THC/CBD?

 

I bought a expensive all-in-one electronic vaporizer but it's really crap for extracting and smoking little amounts of weed, wax or crystals, don't like it at all.

 

I agree with taking little amounts to benefit from it but the problem is I'm still smoking it old school with tobacco to extract it and to have immediate effects.

 

I don't know anyone rolling it with tobacco in America, seems to be popular only in the UK and Europe.  I would recommend a vaporizer, for packing small bowls the vapor genie or VapCap.  Which vape did you get?  Maybe it's worth another go.  A titanium nail and dome are also great if you have access to live resin or terp sauce.

 

Many places have CBD flower available to the public, that can be mixed in small amounts to get at least 10% of total cannabinoids as CBD.  I think a small amount of CBD can have a good effect, and you don't necessarily need to reach a 1:1 ratio.  CBD itself interestingly have anti-addiction properties, but still it can be tough for one to simply use cannabis in moderation.

 

Another option is ethanol extracts.  Commonly stored at a 2:1 ratio, so a 1 oz vial of 75% alcohol contains 1/2 oz of infused cannabis.  Send me a message if you'd like some TEKs.

 

[YoungSchizo]

I don't know anyone rolling it with tobacco in America, seems to be popular only in the UK and Europe.  I would recommend a vaporizer, for packing small bowls the vapor genie or VapCap.  Which vape did you get?  Maybe it's worth another go.  A titanium nail and dome are also great if you have access to live resin or terp sauce.

 

Many places have CBD flower available to the public, that can be mixed in small amounts to get at least 10% of total cannabinoids as CBD.  I think a small amount of CBD can have a good effect, and you don't necessarily need to reach a 1:1 ratio.  CBD itself interestingly have anti-addiction properties, but still it can be tough for one to simply use cannabis in moderation.

 

Another option is ethanol extracts.  Commonly stored at a 2:1 ratio, so a 1 oz vial of 75% alcohol contains 1/2 oz of infused cannabis.  Send me a message if you'd like some TEKs.

 

 

 I bought the electronic PAX3 full kit for 250EUR, the VapCap is only 75EUR 

 

It's not the same in Europe as in the US. The US developed itself this last decade and is 5/10 year ahead of the once so glorified for weed country the Netherlands where I live. The shops I know in this city is still fixated on selling only strong THC weeds.

 

In Europe the UK became the frontrunner for therapeutic use of marijuana, they import from the US.

 

I do have money and time to grow my own marijuana but ffs I have no dummy guide to farm it correctly.

 

I will look up the TEKs! Or, tell me more about TEKs because it's something I never heard about.

[gamesguru]

 I bought the electronic PAX3 full kit for 250EUR, the VapCap is only 75EUR 

 

It's not the same in Europe as in the US. The US developed itself this last decade and is 5/10 year ahead of the once so glorified for weed country the Netherlands where I live. The shops I know in this city is still fixated on selling only strong THC weeds.

 

In Europe the UK became the frontrunner for therapeutic use of marijuana, they import from the US.

 

I do have money and time to grow my own marijuana but ffs I have no dummy guide to farm it correctly.

 

I will look up the TEKs! Or, tell me more about TEKs because it's something I never heard about.

 

I had the original PAX and it was good for small bowls, but the vapcap is better.  For that price may as well get the Crafty or Mighty from Storz & Bickel, they are the best portables.  The VapCap 2019 is technically only $50, i can send you a shipping code if you decide to go forward with it.

 

Europe might be falling behind in weed, but they have more vacation and better work week, and other reasons to want to move to Germany imo.

 

I can't find CBD product in most shops, but a few have it.  I can always find 10-15% CBD flower.

 

Growing it, i think the main thing honestly is good seeds or clones.  Then just following the basics.

 

a TEK is a "technique" usually with processing plants in your kitchen.  So I recommend the water bath tek, followed up by a winterization process.  I would start with an eighth in case your first few batches don't turn out perfect.

 

You end up with an alcohol infusion like this which has anywhere from 10-80 mg/mL of THC, or about 0.5-4 mg per drop, depending on your product potency and dilution ratio.

 

[YoungSchizo]

I had the original PAX and it was good for small bowls, but the vapcap is better.  For that price may as well get the Crafty or Mighty from Storz & Bickel, they are the best portables.  The VapCap 2019 is technically only $50, i can send you a shipping code if you decide to go forward with it.

 

Europe might be falling behind in weed, but they have more vacation and better work week, and other reasons to want to move to Germany imo.

 

I can't find CBD product in most shops, but a few have it.  I can always find 10-15% CBD flower.

 

Growing it, i think the main thing honestly is good seeds or clones.  Then just following the basics.

 

a TEK is a "technique" usually with processing plants in your kitchen.  So I recommend the water bath tek, followed up by a winterization process.  I would start with an eighth in case your first few batches don't turn out perfect.

 

You end up with an alcohol infusion like this which has anywhere from 10-80 mg/mL of THC, or about 0.5-4 mg per drop, depending on your product potency and dilution ratio.

 

I might send you a message for ordering the VapCap, it's cheaper in the US.

 

Haha damn, never mind the TEK, I'm so fucking clumsy I still cannot manage to make proper rice, how in the hell am I supposed to make this. 

[gamesguru]

I might send you a message for ordering the VapCap, it's cheaper in the US.

 

Haha damn, never mind the TEK, I'm so fucking clumsy I still cannot manage to make proper rice, how in the hell am I supposed to make this. 

 

So with the PAGAN shipping code it's $77.89 to send the 2019 M to Zurich.  Looks like it's only 55 Euro here, shipping makes it €61.11 : https://www.dutch-he...porizer-dynavap

You still need the handheld torch, which can be another $25 for 3 pack with 1 can butane.

 

The teks are not that complicated.  Think of it as making tea, but instead using weed and ethanol as the solvent.  I would give it a go with a small amount even 1-2g, when you feel more confident.

[JudeEngbretson]

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