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[MizTen]

Yes, the golden glow around things and the undefineable color and line effect of pretty much everything that you pay attention too.

Fortunately, this doesn't last forever, because "it's not supposed to!"

There is a need for rest, nourishment, and time to process these experiences. How could your brain possibly function that way for any length of time???

Edited by MizTen, 06 April 2013 - 04:36 AM.

[Isochroma]

On the higher racetam Oxiracetam my brain did function like that for months without end and without diminishment.

I also take an array of supplements which provide the needed materials for higher-level functionality.

If you have experienced slumpiness then you are likely running short on the necessary co-factors, including high-dose fishoil and B-Complex.

My diet plus supplement regime includes these every single day so all the material supplies are in abundance and just waiting for the lazy contractors to get busy building me a wonderfully lucid skyscraper of the mind.

Nootropics give the work-orders and allow the structuralization of the base materials.

Both need to be provided and the base materials in much larger than normal abundance especially when beginning to consume a high-power nootropic.

Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 06 April 2013 - 04:36 AM.

[Isochroma]

My regime:

Water Solubles:

B-Complex: 100mg of each B-vitamin except B12 (100mcg) and also includes Choline Citrate (400 mg).
Vitamin C: 7000mg/day
Chromium Picolinate: 500mcg/day
Selenium (now removed due to enough selenium in whole fish): 200mcg/day
Zinc Citrate: 50mg of elemental Zinc

Fat Solubles:

Vitamin A (retinol form, NOT beta-carotene): 1000 IU/day
Vitamin D (D3 form, not more-toxic and less-useful D1/D2): 10,000 IU/day

Fish:

Whole wild Pacific Salmon and Sardines alternating: minimum 10-14g/day fishoil from this source

Before the whole fish I took 14g/day fish oil from gelcaps.

The fishoil dramatically potentiated Piracetam and its skin-smoothing effects [yes ladies! the best cosmetic is the eaten fish/oil] were apparent at 7g/day but brain effects started when I increased to 14g/day.

Brain effects: far stronger Piracetam effect, clearer vision, stimulated feeling throughout the day, and amazingly vivid Dream Theatre ever single night!

Last year I elevated FO to 21 and 28g/day to test it: it was so stimulating that my sleep hours were reduced by 1-2 and I was having superconscious dreams every night and glorious REM-to-reality resynchro flashing as I woke up in the mornings.

Too bad it was nastily immunosuppressive and expensive and It took almost forever to stop bleeding from even tiny scratches and after shaving.

Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 06 April 2013 - 04:48 AM.

[MizTen]

Honestly, I don't understand why you guys post reviews to nootropics involving mundane things like chores, typing and looking at shiny objects. How about hearing about how sunifram helped you grasp calculus better, write more concise code or allowed you to parse through an academic text with greater ease?

Well, because most of my life is very mundane: pretty much like "chop wood and carry water". If I can do that well and with compassion and insight, the world is probably a better place. Also, I really want to enjoy whatever I'm doing, and do it well if possible. I am learning Spanish, trying to reset my artiistic creativity, get healthier, and write better. And restore myself after taking care of people dying from dementia and mental illness.

But that is complex stuff to report on in a thread like this. Your question is more than fair.

[norepinephrine]

Isochroma, I've detailed plenty of my own nootropic experiences in various threads. I promise it's not a one-sided attack; I'm simply stating that given these are brain-enhancing drugs, the discourse should be focused on activities that require a high level of mental function.

As for why I haven't gotten any Sunifram yet, I'm still eagerly following this thread and awaiting to hear the longer-term reports from the initial guinea pigs, given the utter lack of human studies. I will say though - racetams have been fairly hit-or-miss for me; Noopept remains my favorite derivate, oxi- had some great effects the first time I used it (only to disappear with each dose thereafter), and pi- works well for a few days after an extended hiatus but always seems to devolve back into a cycle of unpredictability and brain-fog (even accounting for choline). I'm likely not the ideal candidate for chronic racetam use - the inevitable depressive episodes that result either from racetam-withdrawal or monkeying around with my choline levels always seem to prove detrimental in the long-run.

[Isochroma]

Remember two things:

1. Sunifiram is not a racetam.
2. Sunifiram is very cheap to try - a gram can be bought for $33.70 CAD and that's 100x10mg doses!

I have grown a bit weary too of experimenting on different racetams trying to get the ideal effect-set.

However, despite my reservations and low expectations (potency vs. power) - I decided that the low price warranted a purchase.

If you are frustrated by the lack of reports that detail whether Sunifiram delivers the effect(s) that you want then you will have only two choices short of convincing folks that might contribute such reports to do so:

1. Be satisfied with existing reports.
2. Take the Red Pill yourself.

That's life and we each have our own picture to draw. I'm happy with my results so far and am not sure how much more details I may get.

My recommendation is to bite the bullet and try it for yourself - since as you say - and I know - effects of racetams, and perhaps racerams, are highly individualistic thus making self-experimentation a must.

Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 06 April 2013 - 04:58 AM.

[MizTen]

My regime:

Water Solubles:

B-Complex: 100mg of each B-vitamin except B12 (100mcg) and also includes Choline Citrate (400 mg).
Vitamin C: 7000mg/day
Chromium Picolinate: 500mcg/day
Selenium (now removed due to enough selenium in whole fish): 200mcg/day
Zinc Citrate: 50mg of elemental Zinc

Fat Solubles:

Vitamin A (retinol form, NOT beta-carotene): 1000 IU/day
Vitamin D (D3 form, not more-toxic and less-useful D1/D2): 10,000 IU/day

Fish:

Whole wild Pacific Salmon and Sardines alternating: minimum 10-14g/day fishoil from this source

Before the whole fish I took 14g/day fish oil from gelcaps.

The fishoil dramatically potentiated Piracetam and its skin-smoothing effects [yes ladies! the best cosmetic is the eaten fish/oil] were apparent at 7g/day but brain effects started when I increased to 14g/day.

Brain effects: far stronger Piracetam effect, clearer vision, stimulated feeling throughout the day, and amazingly vivid Dream Theatre ever single night!

Last year I elevated FO to 21 and 28g/day to test it: it was so stimulating that my sleep hours were reduced by 1-2 and I was having superconscious dreams every night and glorious REM-to-reality resynchro flashing as I woke up in the mornings.

Too bad it was nastily immunosuppressive and expensive and It took almost forever to stop bleeding from even tiny scratches and after shaving.

That is a lot of FO! Maybe there are genetic tolerances for it. Those whose ancestral diets always contained FO, often still consume a lot. About 4-6g per day would be about my top and my genetic background should allow for quite a bit.

[OpaqueMind]

Fish:

Whole wild Pacific Salmon and Sardines alternating: minimum 10-14g/day fishoil from this source

Before the whole fish I took 14g/day fish oil from gelcaps.

The fishoil dramatically potentiated Piracetam and its skin-smoothing effects [yes ladies! the best cosmetic is the eaten fish/oil] were apparent at 7g/day but brain effects started when I increased to 14g/day.

I'm very interested in going this route. I have a few questions, if you'd be so kind;

How much salmon/sardines do you eat per day to get that much o3?
Do you think it would be wise to simultaneously eradicate most, perhaps all sources of o6 from your diet?
And does buying wild fish ensure lower heavy metal accumulation than otherwise?
Finally, how quickly do the benefits manifest (i see this one may be difficult as you've been doing this a long time)

I have a feeling this will make a huge difference to overall cognition... Whenever I eat fish in a day I definitely feel much sharper, I just never explored this avenue because I don't appreciate the taste. Oh well, culinary satisfaction is but a small price to pay for a sharpened intellect.

[megatron]

Any effects on memory yet?

[renfr]

Fish:

Whole wild Pacific Salmon and Sardines alternating: minimum 10-14g/day fishoil from this source

Before the whole fish I took 14g/day fish oil from gelcaps.

The fishoil dramatically potentiated Piracetam and its skin-smoothing effects [yes ladies! the best cosmetic is the eaten fish/oil] were apparent at 7g/day but brain effects started when I increased to 14g/day.

I'm very interested in going this route. I have a few questions, if you'd be so kind;

How much salmon/sardines do you eat per day to get that much o3?
Do you think it would be wise to simultaneously eradicate most, perhaps all sources of o6 from your diet?
And does buying wild fish ensure lower heavy metal accumulation than otherwise?
Finally, how quickly do the benefits manifest (i see this one may be difficult as you've been doing this a long time)

I have a feeling this will make a huge difference to overall cognition... Whenever I eat fish in a day I definitely feel much sharper, I just never explored this avenue because I don't appreciate the taste. Oh well, culinary satisfaction is but a small price to pay for a sharpened intellect.

Sardine and salmon have one of the lowest mercury content among all fish, you'd need to eat 800g to get 15g fish oil of sardines and salmon. It's quite a lot unless you're only eating fish all the day.
You should remove as much omega 6 as possible, the higher your omega3/omega 6 ratio is the better for you, either you eat a lot of fish oil to compensate (that's what most americans must do) either you eliminate most of omega 6 food sources.
Filipinos have generally an high ratio but they don't eat a lot of omega 3 fatty acids, it's just that their omega 6 intake is very low.
I agree with Isochroma, 10g has an astonishing effect on the skin and 15g gives central (CNS) effects.


A non exhaustive list of omega 6 content in most popular omega 6 sources :

Omega 666 – the most Evil omega 6 powerhouses (over 50%)
Grapeseed oil 70.6%!!!
Corn Oil 54.5%
Walnuts 52.5% (oil is 53.9%)
Cottonseed oil 52.4%
Soybean oil 51.4%
Very High Omega 6 sources (20-50%)
Sesame oil 42.0%
Pepitas 34.5%
Margarine 27.9%
Pecans 26.9%
Peanut Butter 22.5%
Pistachios 21.3%
High Omega 6 Sources (10-20%)
Chicken Fat 19.5%
Almonds 19.1%
Canola oil 19.0%
Flaxseed oil 12.9%
Cashews 12.6%
Duck Fat 12.2%
Bacon Grease 10.2%
Lard 10.2%
Moderate Omega 6 Sources (5-10%)
Olive oil 9.9%
Goose Fat 9.8%
Avocado 9.4%
Chicken with skin 9.0%
Olives 7.4%
Bacon 7.0%
Eggs 6.8%
Pork chops 6.2%
Popcorn (Air Popped) 5.8%
Oats 5.6%
Low Omega 6 Sources (2-5%)
Corn 4.7%
Chicken Liver 3.7%
Sunflower Oil 3.7% (High oleic variety - others are very high in omega 6)
Butter 3.4%
Beef Tallow 3.1%
Cocoa Butter 2.8%
Macadamia Nut oil ~2.5%
Cream 2.2%
Beef liver 2.1%
Grassfed Beef 2.0%
Whole wheat flour 2.0%
Extremely low Omega 6 Sources (Less than 2%)
Coconut oil 1.9%
Prime rib 1.8%
Whole milk 1.8%
Half and Half 1.8%
Ground Beef 1.6%
Macadamia Nuts 1.6%
Chicken without skin 1.4%
Lamb 1.4%
Cheese/Brie 1.3%
Coconut Milk 1.1%
Seal Oil 1.1%
Foie gras 1.1%
Palm Kernel Oil 0.8%
Sockeye Salmon 0.5%
Yams 0.4%
Potatoes 0.3%
Halibut 0.2%
Shrimp 0.2%
Clams 0.2%
Canned tuna 0.1%
Blue crab 0.1%
Lobster 0.1%

Last year I elevated FO to 21 and 28g/day to test it: it was so stimulating that my sleep hours were reduced by 1-2 and I was having superconscious dreams every night and glorious REM-to-reality resynchro flashing as I woke up in the mornings.

Too bad it was nastily immunosuppressive and expensive and It took almost forever to stop bleeding from even tiny scratches and after shaving.

True true... It gives crazy insomnia, I attribute this to excessive dopamine release.
For bleeding the best remedy is high dose sodium ascorbate, I started having retinal hemorraghe with high dose fish oil and vitamin C in high doses (5g) corrected it.
Or you can take vitamin K.

Edited by renfr, 06 April 2013 - 01:29 PM.

[Isochroma]

Just one 213g can of salmon provides 16g of fish oil and I eat one can per day with no exceptions.

When I eat the sardines each can weighs half as much (107g) and provides a bit less than half the fish oil so I eat two cans on those days.

According to the latest FDA report, Alaska wild salmon are some of the cleanest fish on the planet for Mercury - almost undetectable. I can safely eat three cans a day if I wanted and still be below the maximum daily Hg consumption. Same with sardines.

[Isochroma]

More reports on the Sunifiram!

Took 55mg again bdfore bed and it took much longer to get to sleep but I slept very well with extremely vivid dreams again, despite having stopped Piracetam intake.

Took my usual 5F-AKB-48 in the dark before bed and Sunifiram cleared it up nicely - both seem to cross-potentiate.

I normally sleep 8.5-9 hours spontaneously (no alarm in the morning so that's my natural daily sleep demand) on saturation Piracetam doses - 5g x 6/day.

Went to bed last night at 4:00a and woke up naturally feeling great at 9:47a: five hours forty-seven minutes.

A complete impossibility even with the most powerful combinations of other racetams I've tried.

As I type just out of bed, vision still has the soft, HDR-coloured tint to it while text looks like it does on Oxiracetam.

[manic_racetam]

Hi Isochroma,

I was wondering, did you notice any negative side effects from taking that much sunifiram yesterday? Also, is excitotoxicity of concern for you with this substance?

[renfr]

Just one 213g can of salmon provides 16g of fish oil and I eat one can per day with no exceptions.

When I eat the sardines each can weighs half as much (107g) and provides a bit less than half the fish oil so I eat two cans on those days.

According to the latest FDA report, Alaska wild salmon are some of the cleanest fish on the planet for Mercury - almost undetectable. I can safely eat three cans a day if I wanted and still be below the maximum daily Hg consumption. Same with sardines.

Right! It was omega 3 content not fish oil content, 213g sounds more reasonable indeed...
Did you have a light forehead pressure when taking such doses?

[Introspecta]

Another question for Isochroma- I noticed at first you said it was a waste of material then you were overwhelmed with effects. What happend? Did it take awhile to kick in. Were you being impatient or something?

[Introspecta]

Ordered Sunifram at 4:37 PM Thursday. Recieved Product Today Saturday at 1:30 pm, Wow all the way from Arizona to Massachusetts in 2 days!

Dosed 10mgs- Worked overtime today and was up at 330am. Got home from work 11am pretty tired. Took a 2 hour nap and dosed. Some effects noticed but hard to say what it was. Just felt different. Cigarettes had a different taste to them which I can't explain but Its something I notice when consuming drugs.

About an hour and half later I dosed another 10mgs. Still felt kinda foggy headed but noticing stronger visual effects. Did some light streching. Made some Yerba Mate. Now my head is pretty clear. I wonder if sometimes the head fog we get sometimes is really just a lack of oxygen in the body and brain because its amazing within 2 minutes after stretching I feel bettter and now feel some good effect from the Sunifiram...

I'm not sure if Isochroma got in my head or not but i'm definitely making more typing mistakes and its kind of annoying.

Will report more soon when more observations are taken

Edited by joelski28, 06 April 2013 - 07:40 PM.

[Isochroma]

renfr: no head pressure - the only time I get anything resembling headache is due to knock on head

Fish oil is a macronutrient just like regular fat so 14g/day is not much - check the fat content of your diet.

The fatty acid ratio (FAR) is so important - so to balance out the junk fats + Omega-6's consumed in macro quantities, fish oil has to also be consumed in macro quantities.

Plus I burn a lot of it because it's my sole (Sole - I don't eat that fish but all fish has Soul) source of energy.

joelski28: Impatience is the word! And it seemingly worked. Also wanted to see if there was a roof to the effects and to check for n-curve deresponsivity.

Found positive on the first and negatory on the second.

More to report today: the positively bright mood continues unabated

A courage of the will and optimism of the heart.

All smiles and colourful styles for the Spring.

Another effect I noticed just this morning: inventing new words for things is happening at about 5x the normal rate.

The real test will be this afternoon when the usual slump occurs which Piracetam and other racetams could only partially prevent.

The fight is so tough that it will be one monster against the other by about 3:00p. Fadeouts, slowdowns and dropouts will be noted.

It's a test by fire on a damaged brain riding the undersleep-train - an ideal canary-in-the-coalmind scenario.

Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 06 April 2013 - 08:02 PM.

[Introspecta]

You know you can maintain energy all day living on a Fruit only diet. It can be pretty amazing but difficult to maintain. Its not recommended longterm unless adding oils and fats and some b-12 though.. Something to try.. The testimonies are there and the times I've experimented although brief proved to be True. Laser focus and energy sometimes making it hard to sleep. Results are even better when Juice Fasting but detox symptoms get in the way at times.

Back on Topic-I am noticing an improved mood and desire to learn similiar to Piracetam

[golden1]

I ordered some. Don't know if they'll ship on a saturday, but not much of a difference anyway. My favorite -racetam (besides colu-) was always aniracetam, and my favorite of it's effects are being described for sunifiram except sunifiram seems to have a decently higher effect maximum.(and it seems like it should be much easier to dose, at least after weighing.) It's cool how it's pretty similar in structure to aniracetam if you spin aniracetam around to fit over it best.

At first I was hesitant since it's effects on humans haven't been tested afaik.. then I counted up the number of research chemicals I did the same thing with and decided that I've tried much "worse"(amphetamine analogs etc).. haha.

[emckai]

I've tried 10mg of Sunifiram at 12:45 and it's now 1:57. Doesn't seem like it working so far. Maybe I'll try another 10mg later today.

[Isochroma]

Raise your dose. For those that don't get effects double the dose until you do.

[Introspecta]

I didn't notice much when taking 10mgs it wasn't until I took another 10mgs that I really noticed the effects. I was starting to think maybe I don't respond well then bam. I'm in a great mood, my head is clear and colors are vibrant. Going in the Supermarket was an enjoyable experience especially with all the colors.

[wurm]

DO NOT TAKE OVER 100MG DO NOT TAKE OVER 100mg
i learned this the hard way guys
i started at 10mg and felt very well, almost everything everyone here got like enhanced vision, feeling aware and less need for sleep.
i wanted to try high doses and see how this feels, i went from a bare 15mg to 150mg, BAD IDEA VERY BAD IDEA also i took my car with a bud, 30 mins after i felt funny almost like on a psychedelic or something my vision was warping everywhere i could barely see the traffic lights
i started sweating a lot like crazy yet it wasn't hot at all, having hot flashes and i felt in an intermediate state between dream and reality, i told my pal i'm not feeling alright at all he wa sseeing that i was truly sweating to death you could see it from my clothes really
i didn't want to call an ambulance yet i thoguht i could make it thought i was not really conscious of anything, i could think but not move properly my limbs were shaking ike you know you take 10 cups of coffee i wasn't able to read anything at all my vision was too distorted from that (no hallucinations though), i had some kind of dizziness and huge patches they were purple on my vision
then later my heart started having a chest pain it was really beating fast and pumping hard like a heart pounding you know, my friend immediatly called an ambulance and i went to the ER, i was hooked up to a heart rate monitor it was beating over 160 a,d blood pressure was very high they administered me a drug thru IV and it got better overtime they told me i did a hypertensive crisis they asked me what did i take, i told them i don't know what happpened i didn't want to give a bad rep to this compound.
now read me up be very careful with very high doses, this is very DANGEROUS
maybe there is an interaction with my stack, i bodybuild and this is what i take daily:
- 5 grams creatine
- hydroxycut + NO xplode
- ultra strenght multivitamin
- 5 grams piracetam
- 10 grams fish oil
- 3 grams taurine
- one teaspoon caffeine anhydrous
i don't want to discourage anyone top take high doeses but heres my story in case

[Isochroma]

Excellent!

I just came back to the computer after some time and the clouds are blocking the Sun and wow!

My monitor is so bright and the colours are just so intense, especially that gay hardcoded yellow that IE8 uses for highlighting text when using the Search feature.

[Isochroma]

wurm: caffeine. All racetams potentiate stimulants and often to a high degree.

DM-235 has been tested safe when given to animals alone without any change in behaviour at 100x its effective dose.

And who knows what other stimulants/drugs are in "hydroxycut + NO xplode".

hydroxycut contains caffeine in addition to the caffeine you reported taking.

NO Explode also contains caffeine in addition to the caffeine you reported taking.

So you have three sources of caffeine - two of which you don't know the exact dose in mg of.

Think of racetams and especially the more powerful racerams as pure Oxygen. Have you ever seen something burning in pure Oxygen versus regular air? The difference between a yellow flame and a roaring blue explosion.

The racetams and racerams are catalysis - like pure Oxygen. They are not dangerous by themselves but they supercharge certain other drugs they are taken with - most notably stimulants and psychedelics.

Many others on this forum have reported loss of tolerance and potentiation of caffeine to unpleasant levels with a racetam of similar power - Coluracetam. It is not suprising that this will occur with the similarly-potent racerams.

Others: Unless you like taking risks, follow the Shulging Protocol!

And take only regular vitamins/minerals/fish oil, no other drugs - especially stimulants - during testing. The only exception is other racetams, since they are synergistic and themselves nontoxic.

Start low and double your doses until desireable effect(s) are achieved.

Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 07 April 2013 - 01:04 AM.

[wurm]

wurm: caffeine. All racetams potentiate stimulants and often to a high degree.

DM-235 has been tested safe when given to animals alone without any change in behaviour at 100x its effective dose.

And who knows what other stimulants/drugs are in "hydroxycut + NO xplode".

hydroxycut contains caffeine in addition to the caffeine you reported taking.

Others: Unless you like taking risks, follow the Shulging Protocol!

And take only regular vitamins/minerals/fish oil, no other drugs - especially stimulants - during testing. The only exception is other racetams, since they are synergistic and themselves nontoxic.

Start low and double your doses until desireable effect(s) are achieved.

no hydroxycut is caffeine free (there are different versions), no xplode has 100mg per scoop i take 2 scoops a day, it cannot be the caffeine i am already tolerant to caffeine, it does nothing to me anymore i have to keep taking it because if i don't i crash i'm kinda addicted lol
i don't think you can compare humans with animals you know they always give crazy doses to animals
and what is the shulging protocol you're talking about i couldn't find this anywhere on google
but yeah i will drop the caffeine and no xplode if you think it's the culprit and try again i hope you're right really

piracetam is the culprit too? i've been using it for 3 months straight, i think my body has adapted to it.
i'm still trying to find what is that shulging protocol

[Isochroma]

If you'd done the research you'd realize that these agent remove tolerance to caffeine!

It's all over this forum and the Coluracetam Experiences page.

Stop taking all that stuff and follow the regular protocol.

And re-read what I told you - piracetam is not the 'culprit'.

I don't want one fool making a bad name for a perfectly safe molecule.

[wurm]

okay i think i got it guys, someone has talked sunifiram interacting with dopamine, before i took it i exercised so this could be the problem?
i've never experienced this before, i don't take drugs

If you'd done the research you'd realize that these agent remove tolerance to caffeine!

It's all over this forum and the Coluracetam Experiences page.

Stop taking all that stuff and follow the regular protocol.

And re-read what I told you - piracetam is not the 'culprit'.

I don't want one fool making a bad name for a perfectly safe molecule.

jeez calm down, just tell me where is this shulging protocol i can't find this at all

[wurm]

Sounds good.

The Shulgin protocol is to start very small and double each dose after waiting a conservative period of time to flush out the previous dose.

Alexander Shulgin, the research chemist who wrote TIHKAL and PIHKAL.

alright i found this, it's shulgin not SHULGING
i will do this :
10
20
40
80
150
i am stopping caffeine no xplode hydroxycut taurine and creatine, i will try on monday
i only keep the fish oil

[Isochroma]

Indeed.

Wikipedia: Caffeine Overdose Symptoms: The symptoms of caffeine intoxication are comparable to the symptoms of overdoses of other stimulants: they may include restlessness, fidgeting, anxiety, excitement, insomnia, flushing of the face, increased urination, gastrointestinal disturbance, muscle twitching, a rambling flow of thought and speech, irritability, irregular or rapid heart beat, and psychomotor agitation.^[66] In cases of much larger overdoses, mania, depression, lapses in judgment, disorientation, disinhibition, delusions, hallucinations, or psychosis may occur.

wurm's report: "heart started having a chest pain it was really beating fast and pumping hard like a heart pounding"


energyfiend.com has more: Jitters, Restlessness, and Nervousness, Increased heartbeat, Nausea, Anxiety, Heart palpitations (cardiac arrhythmia), Insomnia, Sweating, Dizziness, Vomiting, Cardiac arrest.

wurm's report:"i started sweating a lot like crazy"

It's important to understand that despite tolerance or a lifetime's experience with a seemingly innocuous stimulant like Caffeine, just like a nicely burning candle if it's put into a bottle of pure oxygen it will burn at its true potential and turn into a blue-flamed torch.

That is the true wonder and beauty of this molecule. It carries enough power to fluidize the body and make it so efficient that just the tiniest dose of a stimulant is enough when before large amounts were needed.

It also means that your innocent-looking cup of tea or coffee or any of the numerous other products to which Caffeine is surreptitiously added - you will have to check ingredient labels - could be a stick of dynamite waiting to go off. It even includes seemingly all-natural things like pure chocolate or cocoa powder.

Edited by Isochroma-Reborn, 07 April 2013 - 12:42 AM.