Do some physical activity, preferably aerobic. Worked well for me ;^))Thanks. Got my first shipment in this morning and took about 5 mg about an hour ago. Dont feel anything yet though.
#751
Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:29 PM
#752
Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:21 PM
#753
Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:42 PM
100mg (solute): 100000mg (100 gr water) = 5mg (solute) : x mg (water)
5 gr of water on the scale will be 5 gr of sunifiram, adding 100gr of water, 10gr of water will be 10 gr of sunifiram, is this exact?
#754
Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:25 PM
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#755
Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:19 PM
#756
Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:37 PM
#757
Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:08 PM
#758
Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:14 PM
Get a 1mg digital scale.
5mg is too tiny a dose, take 25mg.
#759
Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:19 PM
#760
Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:35 PM
Ok I'm irritated. Noticed no effect at all from first dose. Took about 5 mg according to the scoop that came with the order but its even smaller than the one that came with my noopept and the noopept is dosed in micrograms not milligrams. Does that make sense?
noopept is dosed in milligrams, like sunifiram. not many nootropics(or drugs in general) are dosed in micrograms btw... I guess one nootropic example would be huperzine A, but not many others.
[1000micrograms = 1milligram]
also I agree if you want to feel it then you may have to dose more close to 20-30mg, but I'm sure 5mg is probably still doing something.
and not directed at you, but in general I'd say I hate these scoop things because I feel like everyone should have a scale(they're cheap!) and not rely on "scoops," but then I realize it's probably better than people eyeballing the stuff.
#761
Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:39 PM
I was using the eye end of a needle before I received my free microscoop in the second Sunifiram batch from New Star Nootropics.
The scoop works much better.
#762
Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:40 PM
#763
Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:55 PM
Edited by brendan1, 11 May 2013 - 10:55 PM.
#764
Posted 12 May 2013 - 03:59 PM
Noopept is half as potent as Sunifiram.
Get a 1mg digital scale.
5mg is too tiny a dose, take 25mg.
Ok, took 25 mg today perfectly measured out by Gemini scale and 2 hours later and zero effects whatsoever. Does this this mean a) I'm a non-responder b) the cumulative effect has to build up or c) I need a higher dose?
Thanks!
#765
Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:13 PM
#766
Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:36 PM
it's like if you put a better engine in your car or something, it's not just going to look nicer, you have to drive the car to notice the difference.
if none of that makes you feel it then i'd go with option B. personally I don't know how there can be non-responders to sunifiram when it has such a strong effect in multiple areas, it's just my opinion but I feel like most non-responders to things just aren't noticing the effects because theyre used to things being very very obvious and aren't paying attention to detail which is when the effects become obvious to me.
of course getting no conscious effects is possible, I just don't get it.
#767
Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:47 PM
Noopept is half as potent as Sunifiram.
Get a 1mg digital scale.
5mg is too tiny a dose, take 25mg.
Ok, took 25 mg today perfectly measured out by Gemini scale and 2 hours later and zero effects whatsoever. Does this this mean a) I'm a non-responder b) the cumulative effect has to build up or c) I need a higher dose?
Thanks!
Another 25 mg and still absolutely nothing. Quite disappointing.
#768
Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:19 PM
Too bad that Suni does not work for you. I took 5mg today before lunch and my brain was turbocharged! Reasoning extremely fast and speaking at the same speed! It reminds me of the movie "Limitless". :^)) I realized that both times I took the sunifiram my glucose was low, ie, before lunch and during physical activity. Perhaps the low glucose potentiates the effects...Noopept is half as potent as Sunifiram.
Get a 1mg digital scale.
5mg is too tiny a dose, take 25mg.
Ok, took 25 mg today perfectly measured out by Gemini scale and 2 hours later and zero effects whatsoever. Does this this mean a) I'm a non-responder b) the cumulative effect has to build up or c) I need a higher dose?
Thanks!
Another 25 mg and still absolutely nothing. Quite disappointing.
#769
Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:20 PM
#770
Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:42 PM
I bought the suni from vantage: www.vantage.ccGlad it's working for you. I hope to eventually find something that works similarly. I can't imagine I got a bad batch as I ordered from newstar, the same as most everybody else but who knows.
#771
Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:53 AM
I don't have time to go over everything and to be honest did a pretty poor job documenting me experience but alas ...
I've dosed up to 500mg in a single dose (all at once) . That was interesting bordering on psychedelic definite on drugs feeling not exactly good or bad. I don't recomend following my example it's just somthing I had to try. I even planned on going up to a gram but well. Also for the record I've taken a gram of noopept just to see what happens.
My most common use hase been 100mg in a 8oz pom juice bottle that has two bulbs so eyeballing 25,50 mg doses is easy and I take it as needed usually 4 25mg doeses spaced during the work day.
I took only 5 mg as a trial and felt pretty strong effects as decribed in this thread color,line effect,music enhance. similar but different than racetams.
The biggest downsides are ; short duration of acute effects 1-3 hours and subsequent crash meaning if I'm working I need to keep dosing to prevent this, irritability, the whole this is a unknown rc what the hell is it doing to me (think back to the nzt burnout girl from limitless) even when I'm enjoying the effects, somewhat addictive in that I find my self using it more and more.
I seem to have noticed the thermogenic quality but not consistently.
For me dosing to late may interupt sleep
Oh fooy I wanted to give you all a more thorough and articulate synopsis but it's getting late and there's to much to really organize my thoughts in this post. I've been combining way too many supps latly with far to little notes. I want to share everything from the start but that's another thread.
The question I pose to myself and everyone here is do we quit altogether or keep barreling down the coal mine canary path ? Maybe come out ahead ?
#772
Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:52 PM
Glad it's working for you. I hope to eventually find something that works similarly. I can't imagine I got a bad batch as I ordered from newstar, the same as most everybody else but who knows.
My Newstar Suni came in yesterday and it seems to be good. I took 5mg sublingually.I was half way through a long day but it put me in a better mood with more energy. I may take again today to see if it was just placebo.I also take L theanine 200mg X 3 daily and Piracetam 800mg 3 X daily for the last 3 weeks. I was taking the same amount of Piracetam six years ago but don't know why I stopped now.I did not do a washout
#773
Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:12 PM
#774
Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:25 PM
The desire with nootropics is to keep a steady blood concentration.
Both fast absorption and fast elimination are enemies of a steady blood concentration.
Fast input methods such as injection, insufflation, smoking, snorting and sublingual create fast up-down concentration-time curves and are thus undesireable.
Just eat it.
#775
Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:26 PM
You might want to be cautious about sublingual use since research on bio-availability is not available but since you are taking only 5mg that is a bit safer.Do you recommend putting Suni in water or is it okay under the tongue?
Regarding the former, It seems readily soluble in water so that should be fine.
Edited by peakplasma, 14 May 2013 - 10:27 PM.
#776
Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:37 PM
You might want to be cautious about sublingual use since research on bio-availability is not available but since you are taking only 5mg that is a bit safer.Do you recommend putting Suni in water or is it okay under the tongue?
Regarding the former, It seems readily soluble in water so that should be fine.
It's best to take it by swallowing because sublingual means faster absorption.
The desire with nootropics is to keep a steady blood concentration.
Both fast absorption and fast elimination are enemies of a steady blood concentration.
Fast input methods such as injection, insufflation, smoking, snorting and sublingual create fast up-down concentration-time curves and are thus undesireable.
Just eat it.
Thank you both!
I will try orally then next time. Will keep you posted.
#777
Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:23 PM
The first time I took it I had taken aspirin for the first time in a couple of decades so maybe that is what I felt. I stopped taking ibuprofen because I think it was making me a little manic. I read somwhere years ago that it raises lithium levels but I don't have any Idea if that is true.
I will probably just stick with theanine, priracetam, and occasionally phenylpiracetam. Though I would like to try coluracetam sometime.
Thanks for your help.
#778
Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:35 PM
#779
Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:03 PM
Your case with Ibuprofen is because it's a glutamate blocker in the brain.Well before I read that I should just swallow the Suni I had just dosed yesterday for the third time (5mg X 3) under the tongue and didn't really notice anything.
The first time I took it I had taken aspirin for the first time in a couple of decades so maybe that is what I felt. I stopped taking ibuprofen because I think it was making me a little manic. I read somwhere years ago that it raises lithium levels but I don't have any Idea if that is true.
I will probably just stick with theanine, priracetam, and occasionally phenylpiracetam. Though I would like to try coluracetam sometime.
Thanks for your help.
#780
Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:21 PM
I read somwhere years ago that it raises lithium levels but I don't have any Idea if that is true.
interact with lithium
http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/3558329
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