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[YOLF]

SES Prices:

99.95% C60
1g $115 $115/g
5g $445 $89/g
10g $850 $85/g

Sorry for bad formatting, I tried though...

Edited by cryonicsculture, 02 May 2013 - 09:27 PM.

[kenj]

USPS:
* If I put it into a padded envelope and use first class mail, it will be $8 (no expected delivery date published, just gives me "varies by destination")
* Priority mail is 23.95 (6-10 days)
* Next option is $44.95

UPS will require a complete address and value information for a quote.

The first person to receive it will have to be reimbursed for the import duties from the rest of the EU receivers, or I could do first class mail individually and you can have SES break it down into each person's share.

Thanks for the info.
If you can do "first class mail individually and you can have SES break it down into each person's share" that would be cheapest and easiest (for us), - I don't know which countries members here live in, but in my country I always recieve the packages from US when posted standard intl mail/first class. It might sometimes go to customs first, but it's never lost.
There's a huge difference between $8 and $80, which SES originally needed to ship.

edit: are people still interestet in buying the 99.95+ %, ultra pure Vacuum oven dried quality?

Individual shipments shouldn't be a problem. I have a scale if necessary. It measures grams with two decimals. I'll have to read up on safety and handling first though.

Oh, add $1 for a bubble mailer for first class, $2 if it requires a cool shield bubble mailer or similar additional packaging.

Any updates?

USPS:
* If I put it into a padded envelope and use first class mail, it will be $8 (no expected delivery date published, just gives me "varies by destination")
* Priority mail is 23.95 (6-10 days)
* Next option is $44.95

UPS will require a complete address and value information for a quote.

The first person to receive it will have to be reimbursed for the import duties from the rest of the EU receivers, or I could do first class mail individually and you can have SES break it down into each person's share.

Thanks for the info.
If you can do "first class mail individually and you can have SES break it down into each person's share" that would be cheapest and easiest (for us), - I don't know which countries members here live in, but in my country I always recieve the packages from US when posted standard intl mail/first class. It might sometimes go to customs first, but it's never lost.
There's a huge difference between $8 and $80, which SES originally needed to ship.

edit: are people still interestet in buying the 99.95+ %, ultra pure Vacuum oven dried quality?

Hello I am interested in 99.95+ % VOD C60. Maybe we should join and buy 2g together?

Bumping this thread.

[YOLF]

I haven't received any requests, just inquiries at this time. I'm still open to helping out.

[Iporuru]

I'm from Poland and I've just received my order of 5 g of C60 99.95% from SES Research. The first price they quoted was about $80 (FedEx), but then I asked them to ship it using another method (with tracking) and we have arranged to send it by Priority Mail International Small Flat Rate Box at a cost of $28. They were helpful and cooperative, and the parcel arrived after about 3 weeks. You must just ask them.

[kenj]

I haven't received any requests, just inquiries at this time. I'm still open to helping out.

Sounds good. I'm in, hope we can get a couple more willing to buy!

I'm from Poland and I've just received my order of 5 g of C60 99.95% from SES Research. The first price they quoted was about $80 (FedEx), but then I asked them to ship it using another method (with tracking) and we have arranged to send it by Priority Mail International Small Flat Rate Box at a cost of $28. They were helpful and cooperative, and the parcel arrived after about 3 weeks. You must just ask them.

Thanks for your feedback. I already tried contacting SES, but they never replied. IIRC, other europeans didn't get a reply either, so you might've just gotten "lucky".
It really annoys me when businesses don't reply back. Whatever the reason it seems super amateurish.

[Iporuru]

I haven't received any requests, just inquiries at this time. I'm still open to helping out.

Sounds good. I'm in, hope we can get a couple more willing to buy!

I'm from Poland and I've just received my order of 5 g of C60 99.95% from SES Research. The first price they quoted was about $80 (FedEx), but then I asked them to ship it using another method (with tracking) and we have arranged to send it by Priority Mail International Small Flat Rate Box at a cost of $28. They were helpful and cooperative, and the parcel arrived after about 3 weeks. You must just ask them.

Thanks for your feedback. I already tried contacting SES, but they never replied. IIRC, other europeans didn't get a reply either, so you might've just gotten "lucky".
It really annoys me when businesses don't reply back. Whatever the reason it seems super amateurish.

I ordered from them some time after you started the thread and said you hadn't got a reply from them, so I expected trouble with communication and there was - they didn't reply to my first email, so after a couple of days I sent another one and this time they did reply. Then the communication was smooth and trouble-free. Perhaps you could try the same thing and be more persistent.

[kenj]

I haven't received any requests, just inquiries at this time. I'm still open to helping out.

Sounds good. I'm in, hope we can get a couple more willing to buy!

I'm from Poland and I've just received my order of 5 g of C60 99.95% from SES Research. The first price they quoted was about $80 (FedEx), but then I asked them to ship it using another method (with tracking) and we have arranged to send it by Priority Mail International Small Flat Rate Box at a cost of $28. They were helpful and cooperative, and the parcel arrived after about 3 weeks. You must just ask them.

Thanks for your feedback. I already tried contacting SES, but they never replied. IIRC, other europeans didn't get a reply either, so you might've just gotten "lucky".
It really annoys me when businesses don't reply back. Whatever the reason it seems super amateurish.

I ordered from them some time after you started the thread and said you hadn't got a reply from them, so I expected trouble with communication and there was - they didn't reply to my first email, so after a couple of days I sent another one and this time they did reply. Then the communication was smooth and trouble-free. Perhaps you could try the same thing and be more persistent.

I emailed them again a couple days ago, and haven't heard anything from them yet. It seems pretty random whether they want to respond to intl. requests.

I haven't received any requests, just inquiries at this time. I'm still open to helping out.

Would you be interestet in just shipping to me, 1 gram, if nobody else is interestet?

[YOLF]

I'll do 1 and I'll do 100.

[nickdino]

You guys know how long it takes for sesres to reply to mails? I sent a mail 4 days ago, and haven't heard anything.
I used the one they have in their contact page: gnow.info at sesres dot com.
I prefer mails, and not making international phone calls.

I wrote to them from my gmail address about 1.5 months ago and I haven't received any feedback.

Wow, that's terrible customer service. It seems they couldn't care less about international business to individuals. I'm not really interestet in begging for their service.
I've bought the premade from Sarah so far, no problems at all, but it gets too expensive when you take a higher dose long-term.

What other options we have for powder 99.9%?

Thanks for sharing your lack of feedback, mait.

Maybe a group buy from SES Research by EU based Longecity members via one USA based Lonegcity member for a fee ???

I'll do it in exchange for a donation to LC or another life extension charity. + actual shipping paid to me of course.

Sorry for my late reply. I would certainly do this kind of deal. Any other Europeans interested?

i'm interested too, right now in spain and from august i'll be in holland

[Logic]

Perhaps SES's spam filter is set too high or something?
I got prompt replies from them:

"The shipping cost by FedEx is $85.92 2-3 day service, up to .4 lb. shipment"

"How is your postal system down in South Africa. We can ship that that method, however we cannot guarantee the delivery. The cost of priority mail International is $30.00, 6- 10 days delivery time.
Let me know if this will work for you?"

"I wanted to follow up to see if you would like to make the purchase"

[balance]

I just ordered a 45mg bottle of C60 via owndoc.com/Vaughter wellness store for 29 euros including shipping, to Holland. Is that a decent price?

[YOLF]

Best price and highest purity product actually. The only way to get it cheaper would be to buy the C60 powder and make your own TMK.

[niner]

Best price and highest purity product actually.

How do you know it's the highest purity? I thought the general consensus among those who had tried both the EU and California suppliers was that they were both of high quality. I notice that they are competing on price, including the cost of shipping. Depending on where people live, I'd recommend checking both Sarah and Tom's sites. For EU customers, Sarah is probably the best deal; for North Americans, Tom is probably best. You won't go wrong with either of them. If you buy your own c60 and olive oil, you can use the highest quality of either or both, which may be to some people's liking. If you're going to take it long term, DIY will be cheaper.

[YOLF]

Sarah is able to get more C60 into each bottle (900mg/l as opposed to 800mg/l) as she just has a more established company with more equipment. I guess Sarah's is really more about the potency. Both companies meet or exceed the specifications of the original batch made by the Spanish National Cancer Institute/Center, and the increased potency isn't that much more... Still each weekly dose would be 25ml to get the allometric equivalent or there abouts and it's alot of oil. I'm hoping someone will check the composition and we'll see an improvement in the potency such that it could be put in a gel tab or require fewer drops. I would dread drinking half a bottle a week on a regular basis and I love OO, but not that much at a given time.

Tom's is available at a lower price point and has a better measurement tool, but his 30ml bottle is one allometric dose (24mg/30ml). Of course, most don't take the allometric dose and have reported results at lower doses.

[niner]

Sarah is able to get more C60 into each bottle (900mg/l as opposed to 800mg/l) as she just has a more established company with more equipment. I guess Sarah's is really more about the potency. Both companies meet or exceed the specifications of the original batch made by the Spanish National Cancer Institute/Center, and the increased potency isn't that much more... Still each weekly dose would be 25ml to get the allometric equivalent or there abouts and it's alot of oil. I'm hoping someone will check the composition and we'll see an improvement in the potency such that it could be put in a gel tab or require fewer drops. I would dread drinking half a bottle a week on a regular basis and I love OO, but not that much at a given time.

Tom's is available at a lower price point and has a better measurement tool, but his 30ml bottle is one allometric dose (24mg/30ml). Of course, most don't take the allometric dose and have reported results at lower doses.

Baati's rats got 1.7mg/kg every 2 weeks for most of the study, using a 0.8mg/ml solution. If we work that out for a 70kg man, using an allometric rat-human scaling factor of 6, we get:

70kg * 1.7mg/kg * 1/6 = 19.8mg * 1ml/0.8mg = 25ml, but it's only every two weeks. I use 10-25ml of olive oil every day on salads and vegetables, so the small difference in concentration doesn't make a difference to me. In fact, my home made oil is closer to 0.5mg/ml. I've recently raised my dose to 30mg/month, which is starting to approach the allometric dose. I've arrived at it empirically, rather than allometrically.

Sarah's company has been around longer than Tom's, but I think Tom has been in the C60-oo business longer. I just don't think we should be claiming that one is higher purity than the other, since we don't really know which is the highest purity, and at any rate, they are both good and I would have no problem using either one.

BTW, Baati and Moussa are in Paris, not affiliated with the Spanish NCI as far as I'm aware.

Edited by niner, 26 June 2013 - 10:18 PM.

[balance]

So I received my bottle of C60 from Vaughter Czech Republic. How do I take this? Pour 1 full dropper directly in my mouth following ingesting of fat containing meal?

[niner]

So I received my bottle of C60 from Vaughter Czech Republic. How do I take this? Pour 1 full dropper directly in my mouth following ingesting of fat containing meal?

That would work. Or you could put it on food, just like you'd use regular olive oil.

[balance]

So if I take 1 full dopper on fatty meal it would not be harmful/toxic or etc?