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#451 Psionic

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:59 PM

Can I discreetly ask what do you guys mean by TULIP? I cant find it explained anywhere, its either Testosterone regimen or CILTEP (chemically induced LTP)?

BTW I am continuing with lllt 200mW 808nm at f3 (LDLPFC) only with 1-minute duration every other day, dont know the outcomes yet because Q10 and PQQ seems mask it with doing a fairly good job (energy levels). The memory recall of the sheets I am pursuing seems to be the same but the focus is really steadfast and it works in conversations/reasoning and all activities. Hopefully I will have some details on focus enhancement technique I am working on.
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Posted 11 August 2013 - 08:22 PM

Can I discreetly ask what do you guys mean by TULIP? I cant find it explained anywhere, its either Testosterone regimen or CILTEP (chemically induced LTP)?

BTW I am continuing with lllt 200mW 808nm at f3 (LDLPFC) only with 1-minute duration every other day, dont know the outcomes yet because Q10 and PQQ seems mask it with doing a fairly good job (energy levels). The memory recall of the sheets I am pursuing seems to be the same but the focus is really steadfast and it works in conversations/reasoning and all activities. Hopefully I will have some details on focus enhancement technique I am working on.

Very cool Psionic. I'm glad to hear that it's working reasonably well for you so far. It gets better. =)

TULIP = T.U.L.P. = The Ultimate Laser Protocol...named by yours truly, madly, deeply and inspired by the man himself, Abelard Lindsay. The core so far is Laser + PQQ + CoQ10. Future VERY promising additions are Artichoke Extract and/or Shilajit. I've added 500mg Artichoke Extract http://www.amazon.co...w artichoke 500 on a number of occasions now with extremely good results (props to Abelard and OpaqueMind for their insights here). Shilajit is still in the testing phase (three times by me so far) but looks very promising due to it's electron donating enhancement of CoQ10. Also, NADH is another extremely promising addition...but that remains to be seen. Wiki the electron transport chain for more info there.

The focus of TULIP is mitochondrial enhancement/optimization. I'm currently studying the electron transport chain complexes I-IV http://en.wikipedia....transport_chain, glycolysis http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Glycolysis, and cellular respiration. http://en.wikipedia....lar_respiration Hopefully, insights gleaned from these areas will give us many experimental directions for the foreseeable future. Everybody, feel free to read up on these and contribute if you like. The more, the merrier (please be safe if you experiment though). =)

Sorry about not responding to many of you guys' posts over the past month or so. I plan to go back through the thread and respond as much as I can...I'll do my best.

Ok, back to laser testing. I'll post later tonight.

Edited by lostfalco, 11 August 2013 - 08:25 PM.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 07:46 AM

Alright, I have now tested this laser http://www.ebay.com/...=item3cbaee2b2b multiple times. After 10+ measurements yesterday and today, its output ranged from 170mW to 210mW. It pretty much hovered right around the stated 200mW. Looks pretty promising. The major caveat, of course, is the fact that these are not medical lasers and are much more likely to vary from module to module. Everyone's choice is their own and user discretion is advised. =)

After testing the output, I lasered multiple spots on my forehead for 2-4 minutes each. Everything felt and feels normal. If anything changes I'll let you guys know, but for now I think that this module can be considered a possible option.

ps. One downside is that it does heat up pretty fast...much faster than the Vetro. You may only be able to laser two to four spots before it needs a break. This shouldn't be a huge problem with a little planning. If you guys try it out, let me know how it goes! We're all still learning here.

Edited by lostfalco, 12 August 2013 - 07:49 AM.


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Posted 12 August 2013 - 12:10 PM

Still going strong on the clomid - the key thing for me is it makes me passionate about stuff and life again. I'm not sure about the long term side effects of doing this, but i've gotten so much done on it. My test with phenylpiracetam went a bit wrong, it caused a whole bunch of neurological symptoms in me which I didn't like (I'm sensitive to chemicals) - hopefully not much long term damage, but i'm on my usual r enervation regiment for a while

I also took out Q10 and PQQ, not because it wasn't working, but I suspect it worked too well. It made me awake to the point where my brain seems like it wasn't resting enough, like it didn't feel balanced. I think I'm not at the age where my mitochondria needs Q10 yet - it felt like over supplementation for me.

I've ordered oxytocin so i'm looking forward to test that out, i'm also considering being on antibiotics on the long term for a variety of reasons such as anti inflammation and skin problems.

On a more shallow note, i'm interested in experimenting with elevator shoes and seeing if a height boost will make a difference (I just got some height boosting insoles that arrive and seem comfortable, but limited), plus i'm noticing using organic masks really help keeping your face feel great...going a bit american psycho here...make sure you clean your face first before adding toner or using a mask. (korean brands are cheap and great)

Also trying to get more vegetables in my diet, but thats difficult - I read you really want like 9 cups of vegetable and fruit which sounds like really hard work. Things get weirder - I've ordered this calcium 2 aep supplement, something that a german doctor called dr hans nieber, it could be complete BS but I figured cheap to try (http://en.wikipedia....s_Alfred_Nieper)

Been a lot more proactive recently, I think this anti-aging thing is the real deal and its going to become big when it really becomes a market, unfortunately at the moment its a bit of a crapshoot. You see I realised there is no real commercial interest in improving peoples lives medically, because companies can't make money off cheap one time solution, thats why a lot of promising therapies like TULIP are simply not pursued. The sparse availability of "good" information from large funded societies and corporations, and the low maintenance and effort on useful websites that do provide interesting information proves my point.

^ Don't think there is a conspiracy here, I just think its natural because there is no real incentive long term wise for any company to invent something that benefited humans but cannot translate into good long term profits. In fact there is much incentive for companies to keep people in the dark so they need to keep purchasing overpriced palliatives.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 02:07 PM

Hey Falcy, can I ask what the rationale behind shifting the laser to pre-bedtime is? Have you noticed a difference in effects or the disruption of sleep patterns at all?

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 04:50 PM

Still going strong on the clomid - the key thing for me is it makes me passionate about stuff and life again. I'm not sure about the long term side effects of doing this, but i've gotten so much done on it. My test with phenylpiracetam went a bit wrong, it caused a whole bunch of neurological symptoms in me which I didn't like (I'm sensitive to chemicals) - hopefully not much long term damage, but i'm on my usual r enervation regiment for a while

I also took out Q10 and PQQ, not because it wasn't working, but I suspect it worked too well. It made me awake to the point where my brain seems like it wasn't resting enough, like it didn't feel balanced. I think I'm not at the age where my mitochondria needs Q10 yet - it felt like over supplementation for me.

I've ordered oxytocin so i'm looking forward to test that out, i'm also considering being on antibiotics on the long term for a variety of reasons such as anti inflammation and skin problems.

On a more shallow note, i'm interested in experimenting with elevator shoes and seeing if a height boost will make a difference (I just got some height boosting insoles that arrive and seem comfortable, but limited), plus i'm noticing using organic masks really help keeping your face feel great...going a bit american psycho here...make sure you clean your face first before adding toner or using a mask. (korean brands are cheap and great)

Also trying to get more vegetables in my diet, but thats difficult - I read you really want like 9 cups of vegetable and fruit which sounds like really hard work. Things get weirder - I've ordered this calcium 2 aep supplement, something that a german doctor called dr hans nieber, it could be complete BS but I figured cheap to try (http://en.wikipedia....s_Alfred_Nieper)

Been a lot more proactive recently, I think this anti-aging thing is the real deal and its going to become big when it really becomes a market, unfortunately at the moment its a bit of a crapshoot. You see I realised there is no real commercial interest in improving peoples lives medically, because companies can't make money off cheap one time solution, thats why a lot of promising therapies like TULIP are simply not pursued. The sparse availability of "good" information from large funded societies and corporations, and the low maintenance and effort on useful websites that do provide interesting information proves my point.

^ Don't think there is a conspiracy here, I just think its natural because there is no real incentive long term wise for any company to invent something that benefited humans but cannot translate into good long term profits. In fact there is much incentive for companies to keep people in the dark so they need to keep purchasing overpriced palliatives.

That's cool Major. Hormone optimization is extremely important...and often hard to come by. I'm glad clomid's been working well for you. Stimulating your own production seems like a much better option than exogenous testosterone.

PQQ and CoQ10 can be very stimulating. Interestingly, I've found that if I feel a little overstimulated by them the laser actually helps even out the stimulation and turn it into a consistent flow of energy for the day. It also works the other way as well. If I'm not quite feeling 100%, the laser seems to give me that little boost to get me up there. My guess (if I'm not just imagining this...which I could be) is that the laser is not 'stimulating' per se, but regulatory. It'll be interesting to keep watching as more studies come out and shed some light on this.

Regarding antibiotics...I'm no expert here, however, I would be VERY cautious and only take them if absolutely necessary. Our gut biome is extremely important. All those trillions of little critters are basically a part of us and should be considered on par with a kidney or a liver imo. They help us digest food, they manufacture nutrients for us, and they have extensive communication with the rest of our body. It's a pretty major thing to kill them and I would encourage you to know exactly what the effects will be before you take anything. Sometimes it's a good thing, often it's not.

Quote 1: "According to this study, treatment with antibiotics can alter this symbiosis from early stages of the treatment. 'Although some of the changes are oscillatory and can be reversed at the end of the treatment, others seem irreversible.'" [underline mine]
Quote 2: "Although the research "shows for the first time that gut bacteria presents a lower capacity to produce proteins, as well as deficiencies in key activities, during and after the treatment," explains Moya. Specifically, the study suggests that the gut microbiota shows less capacity to absorb iron, digest certain foods and produce essential molecules for the organism."
http://www.scienceda...30109081145.htm

Don't worry about being 'shallow'. =) I could write an entire treatise on the misuse and misunderstanding of this term in modern society. You're perfectly fine to care about your external appearance, imo. Social skills, grooming, self-presentation, etc...all these are very important in life. Enhancing these areas will massively improve your mood and outlook and will have physical, epigenetic changes that will lead to long term expression of genes related to confidence, enjoyment, excitement...aka zest for life. Check out the cognitive psychology/neuroscience literature for more info on how human to human interactions change us on a physical level. Given a little practice, you can create a loop between yourself and others that will positively alter the course of your life.

Lifts...Unless you are well below the average height for your country I would not recommend these. Even then, I'd be pretty cautious here. I've experimented pretty extensively with lifts over the past few years (even though I'm slightly above average U.S. height) and in my experience other things matter WAY more in interactions with men AND women. I would try changing many other variables first...grooming, hair style (this is huge), clothing style, clothing fit, brands of shoes and clothes, body language, voice inflections/volume, humor, attitude, intelligence, etc. EVERYTHING that we do or don't do communicates to others who we are and what role we play in society. You'll most likely find that you don't need lifts to get the life you want...even if you're 5'2".

Whew, that's enough for now. Feel free to ask me any questions if you want to discuss some of this stuff. As always, just my opinions. Take what works, use it to enhance your life, and drop the rest. Glad to hear you're doing well man.

Edited by lostfalco, 12 August 2013 - 04:58 PM.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 05:23 PM

Hey Falcy, can I ask what the rationale behind shifting the laser to pre-bedtime is? Have you noticed a difference in effects or the disruption of sleep patterns at all?

Yeah Opaque, I was pretty much following the lead of the Naeser pilot study here. My thinking is that we are adding energy to the system, causing a hormetic response, and affecting gene expression. My guess is that these take a little time to play out.

My sleep has been great and I pretty much always wake up in a great mood. With that said, I've had good results lasering pretty much any time of day. I don't see any reason to be dogmatic here.

For energy and hormesis info see Gonzalez-Lima (I know you've already read this Opaque...just for people who haven't). =) http://pdfcast.org/pdf/suck-it-trebek

For lllt and gene expression see these recent articles (there are many more). Admittedly, I'm extrapolating from nerve, bone, muscle, and wound healing studies in rats and cell cultures. It's a guess...but not a too far-fetched guess imo.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22989325
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22917976
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23929563
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23636299
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23568823
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23515868
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23001637

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 05:48 PM

LostFalco: Seconded!

Major Legend: Check this video out -

Tyler is the man, I recommend anyone that into self development to check him out. Zinc has really helped my skin, so maybe try that (lots of advice in the Ageless Looks sub forum of course). Posture is really important and affects your state of mind, and vice versa. You feel better and more confident basically. Straight back, shoulders back and down, chin up, relaxed arms, and a low center of gravity. There are studies (I'll find them if anyone's interested). Breathe to your balls. I used to have serious dick-size issues, but those are gone through the help of RSD (Tyler's company), loads of free content there.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:11 PM

LF, thanks for testing the 808nm/200mW ebay laser- it does seem pretty reliable. It would be interesting to compare power output stability to the medical grade Vetrolaser if you were interested in posting that too.

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:49 PM

So falco is the ebay laser going to do the same thing as the vetrolaser?

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 06:58 PM

Faclo: Is there any guide on how you use the laser (spot, time, etc)? Or is it just a random place in the forehead for a random period of time?

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 01:10 AM

I'm a pretty short guy at 5 foot 6, but I tried those insoles out yesterday, and the feeling I get now is that i'm just more self concious about my height now, whilst in the past I was never really aware of it much, and I guess it never really affected me that much in terms of social life . Maybe to go to a professional event or an interview, but don't really think i'll be using these daily. At my height, it would take a totally unrealistic height boost to reach average height anyways, and its totally a downer to take your shoes off and go from tall to short lol - so I think great for apperances but not so good as a habit psychologically to rely on such a thing. Though girls often wear heels so I guess I can get used to the idea of sometimes wearing it on occasions where it might make a difference.

And in regards to Tyler, I think he has got some pretty good insights and ideas, but in general his talks are way too "far out" for practical application. I much prefer Asian Playboy who gives a lot of practical advice on his website, and because of his disadvantage of being asian and short as well I think from a analytical point of view his methods are probably more based on something that works, as all the other factors are taken out such a skin colour, height and so on.

Anyways I got these ones where its like 3 layer detachables, so I can adjust it anywhere from subtle to more.

Edited by Major Legend, 13 August 2013 - 01:23 AM.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 02:52 AM

Regarding antibiotics...I'm no expert here, however, I would be VERY cautious and only take them if absolutely necessary. Our gut biome is extremely important. All those trillions of little critters are basically a part of us and should be considered on par with a kidney or a liver imo. They help us digest food, they manufacture nutrients for us, and they have extensive communication with the rest of our body. It's a pretty major thing to kill them and I would encourage you to know exactly what the effects will be before you take anything. Sometimes it's a good thing, often it's not.

Quote 1: "According to this study, treatment with antibiotics can alter this symbiosis from early stages of the treatment. 'Although some of the changes are oscillatory and can be reversed at the end of the treatment, others seem irreversible.'" [underline mine]
Quote 2: "Although the research "shows for the first time that gut bacteria presents a lower capacity to produce proteins, as well as deficiencies in key activities, during and after the treatment," explains Moya. Specifically, the study suggests that the gut microbiota shows less capacity to absorb iron, digest certain foods and produce essential molecules for the organism."
http://www.scienceda...30109081145.htm


Thanks for that reference lost falco. I've had a lifelong problem with inflammation which seems to be getting worst and have good evidence of - to be starting to move into my CNS. My idea was to go with doxycycline which is prescribed often for acne and for up to a year. The reason is because doxycyline was found to have anti-inflammatory effects (http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/21350981), it can also reduce staph levels on the skin which in eczema is prevalent and elevated. Tetracyclines (the class of antibiotics Doxycycline is in) is one of the few antibiotics that can cross the blood brain barrier. There is a lot of speculation that CNS inflammation is caused by bacteria, in rare circumstances the CNS barrier can be breached, and due to immune priviledge the body has a problem of being unable to clear bacteria from the CNS effectively. Of course many of the above are speculation and every study has its counter study, we know inflammation is the bodys wrong response, but for what reason, what, why and where is anyone's guess.

In terms of bacterial resistances there is evidence of resistence developing from both overuse and underuse of antibiotics as well. Some bad bacteria may simply be coming back because antibiotics haven't been used for long enough, and certainly tetracyclines target slow growth. My primary concern of course is the obliteration of healthy bacteria such as gut flora (i'm not convinced probiotics help as much as people say as compared to natural cultivation), and the definite rebound effect of coming off the antibiotics given my immune system imbalances arleady - which is why I am extremely reluctant to commence extensive antibiotic treatment beyond one week.

Its a big headache not to mention a insult to my wallet having chronic inflammation systemically, its one unwelcome problem that is both a trigger and a cause for a slew of other headache problems...its a constant source of stress having to mediate complicated strategies just to get to baseline, but I seem to be having success in enhancement on top of treatment. My use of noopept for a month have definetely yielded long term recovery such as the removal of fatigue and brain fog.

i've recently upped my update of curcumin from 500mg to 1g and adding more bioperine (i'm not sure how safe this is, as i'm taking biocurcumin phytosome which is meant to be absorbed more readily already), but it seems to have a unexpected positive effect on my cognition to the point of autistic intelligence again which has its benefits and downsides (benefits being able to observe things other people can't, downsides being that it can make u zone out of weird stuff such as the 3d shape of things, the alignment of certain objects, design and code) - for my current purposes this is an unwelcome effect.

^ This may be because i've also upped my intake of betacarotene significantly as well, we have a juicer in the office and i've been reading about the positive effects of betacaorotene, and carrots are a great snack. In general i'm trying to not just eat vegetables, but to eat vegetables with colour/fruit (lettuce does not count).

Edited by Major Legend, 13 August 2013 - 03:12 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:39 AM

@Major Legend,

It seems you have some kind of auto immune reaction. Probably to something you eat (dairy, soy products, gluten, corn - to state the most common subtle food allergens), or you may have a leaky gut. Anyways, you should attack the root cause of your inflammation, not it's symptoms. Although the books is titled the "Hashimoto's Thyroidis, The Root Cause" it covers a very broad range of inflammatory sources and advises how to systematically find out which causes your inflammation. It costs $25 on Amazon, but it was really worth it, at least for me (I finally got rid of chronic nasal congestion - it was my bodies reaction to dairy and soy). Hope this helps.

Alright, I have now tested this laser http://www.ebay.com/...=item3cbaee2b2b multiple times. After 10+ measurements yesterday and today, its output ranged from 170mW to 210mW. It pretty much hovered right around the stated 200mW. Looks pretty promising. The major caveat, of course, is the fact that these are not medical lasers and are much more likely to vary from module to module. Everyone's choice is their own and user discretion is advised. =)

After testing the output, I lasered multiple spots on my forehead for 2-4 minutes each. Everything felt and feels normal. If anything changes I'll let you guys know, but for now I think that this module can be considered a possible option.

ps. One downside is that it does heat up pretty fast...much faster than the Vetro. You may only be able to laser two to four spots before it needs a break. This shouldn't be a huge problem with a little planning. If you guys try it out, let me know how it goes! We're all still learning here.


Thanks for the measurements!

Indeed, my ebay laser also heats up within 3 - 4 minutes too, so I have to take breaks to let it cool a bit - somewhat cumbersome. While waiting for my LEDs to arrive, I'm working on my helmet. First on the power supply (LED driver) and then I'll tackle with LED holders.

Edited by rikelme, 13 August 2013 - 07:37 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:22 AM

@Major Legend,

It seems you have some kind of auto immune reaction. Probably to something you eat (dairy, soy products, gluten, corn - to state the most common subtle food allergens), or you may have a leaky gut. Anyways, you should attack the root cause of your inflammation, not it's symptoms. Although the books is titled the "Hashimoto's Thyroidis, The Root Cause" it covers a very broad range of inflammatory sources and advises how to systematically find out which causes your inflammation. It costs $25 on Amazon, but it was really worth it, at least for me (I finally got rid of chronic nasal congestion - it was my bodies reaction to dairy and soy). Hope this helps.

Alright, I have now tested this laser http://www.ebay.com/...=item3cbaee2b2b multiple times. After 10+ measurements yesterday and today, its output ranged from 170mW to 210mW. It pretty much hovered right around the stated 200mW. Looks pretty promising. The major caveat, of course, is the fact that these are not medical lasers and are much more likely to vary from module to module. Everyone's choice is their own and user discretion is advised. =)

After testing the output, I lasered multiple spots on my forehead for 2-4 minutes each. Everything felt and feels normal. If anything changes I'll let you guys know, but for now I think that this module can be considered a possible option.

ps. One downside is that it does heat up pretty fast...much faster than the Vetro. You may only be able to laser two to four spots before it needs a break. This shouldn't be a huge problem with a little planning. If you guys try it out, let me know how it goes! We're all still learning here.


Thanks for the measurements!

Indeed, my ebay laser also heats up within 3 - 4 minutes too, so I have to take breaks to let it cool a bit - somewhat cumbersome. While waiting for my LEDs to arrive, I'm working on my helmet. First on the power supply (LED driver) and then I'll tackle with LED holders.


Thanks rikel i'll look into that. I've tried everything in finding out the cause of it gluten, soy, diary etc- it would seem the only solution that has worked is to move to places where there are relatively few pollutants like small towns where there are few opportunities for work and career. Whenever i'm in urban areas - capital cities like London and so on the problems appear to become worst. Whenever i've been in small towns like Ibiza, Majorca, Small English Cities and so on my problems go away in a few weeks, though mild food allergies remain, though i've tested eating steak for 2 weeks 3 meals a day in Small English City (Removed because too much personal information) and was fine, so food has an effect but it doesn't seem to be the ultimate culprit.

I've tried periods of pure vegetable diets I think diet can only help with part of the problem, in the end the problem is still a faulty machine (me) trying to process stuff in the wrong way. Going diary/gluten free made me feel worst, it seems some amounts of animal and bad food is good to keep the body stimulated as well. When I'm on pure veg diet, I feel like a veg, sedated and disinterested. I don't react the same to supplements (like vitamin D gave me hives, quercertin gave me walking problems), I can't digest MCT oil without feeling ill, it all points to some other issue instead of allergy, but rather some problem with processing anything in general.

I've even at some point spent money buying an hospital grade air filter, to get rid of all the particles (as I thought air could be the culprit) - oddly perhaps due to ionisation it actually made the air worst for me. I've tried probiotics to little success. It seems the only hypothesis that makes sense to me is a genetic dysfunction that causes the protein lattices (e.g claudin-1) in my body to form substandard membranes in my skin, gut and so on. This means my body is more prone to leaking and becoming vulnerable to pollutants, chemicals and unwanted bacteria embedding in your system when they shouldn't, this thus triggers an immune response. This makes sense as population dense areas generally have more pollutants in the air and in the food/water as well.

An example is you eat a food that shouldnt leak into the blood before its properly digested, those chemicals travel around your body and gets embedded in places, then the immune system sees this and attacks it (including your own cells as well - localised though

^ Of course this is a wild guess - I really have no idea whats going on in my body, I don't eat much shellfish or beef and that certainly helps, but never had a problem with diary, gluten or the common culprits. So i've pretty much kinda given up on finding the cause of it all, as the cause seems to be everything.

[Deleted Section - As I felt it gave too much personal information - basically describing my life that i'm a normal guy and all the supplements help me with my life to stay normal despite my health issues or in some case exceed normality like one night stands, great solution to problems and so on]

Edited by Major Legend, 13 August 2013 - 09:01 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:52 AM

Lostfalco, sorry for spamming your thread, but let me reply, in good faith, to Major Legend one more time :)

Major Legend, you really tried to knock the bastard out. Sorry to hear that you had to fight it so much, in vain. Have you tried acupuncture? A lot of people are seeking to traditional Chinese medicine for help when western medicine doesn't have an explanation nor solution for their condition. This website may be a good starting point shen-nong.com Good luck!

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:03 PM

One more for major legend: you wrote: "Going diary/gluten free made me feel worst" it can be just sign of addiction / some parasitic bodies in you crave them a lot and it can be candida overgrowth which literally did it 'in your brain'. One of the symptom of candida is that people have strong surges to eat sugar and diary. The statement that 'it seems some amounts of animal and bad food is good to keep the body stimulated as well' is pure guesswork and in principle you keep the body in intox phase. When you fast or stop eat crappy food (eat non-cooked food) it doesnt mean you will feel immediately better, conversely the body will start to detox which can make you feel worse. The first phase of giving up can be hard, because you are going to kill them by starving. Please consider this option and doing proper tests, it worked in my case.
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Posted 13 August 2013 - 05:21 PM

Oxygen--Oxygen concentrator, Scuba gear, etc.
Comments--100% oxygen breathed for 3 minutes has been shown to increase oxygen blood levels and greatly increase learning...especially memorization and reaction time. Studies have also shown that 30% and 40% work as well. It seems that the dangers of oxygen mostly occur when someone breathes it for a much greater time than this. I really want to try this and will very soon. Any experiences from anybody here? I do worry about damage so feedback there would be greatly appreciated.


I've never heard of doing anything like this. Is there somewhere I can read about this in a non-technical manner so I know what I'm getting into. Where do I get the equipment to try this?

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 05:35 PM

Oxygen--Oxygen concentrator, Scuba gear, etc.
Comments--100% oxygen breathed for 3 minutes has been shown to increase oxygen blood levels and greatly increase learning...especially memorization and reaction time. Studies have also shown that 30% and 40% work as well. It seems that the dangers of oxygen mostly occur when someone breathes it for a much greater time than this. I really want to try this and will very soon. Any experiences from anybody here? I do worry about damage so feedback there would be greatly appreciated.


I've never heard of doing anything like this. Is there somewhere I can read about this in a non-technical manner so I know what I'm getting into. Where do I get the equipment to try this?


Maybe check with a local diver's club, you can probably rent tanks/other equipment from them. People with cluster headaches use pure oxygen and you can buy masks for that purpose online. For instance: http://www.clusterhe...w&ref=o2ptimask (no affiliation, but I'm not sure how good they are either). I'd research the sites before buying.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:11 PM

Oxygen--Oxygen concentrator, Scuba gear, etc.
Comments--100% oxygen breathed for 3 minutes has been shown to increase oxygen blood levels and greatly increase learning...especially memorization and reaction time. Studies have also shown that 30% and 40% work as well. It seems that the dangers of oxygen mostly occur when someone breathes it for a much greater time than this. I really want to try this and will very soon. Any experiences from anybody here? I do worry about damage so feedback there would be greatly appreciated.


I've never heard of doing anything like this. Is there somewhere I can read about this in a non-technical manner so I know what I'm getting into. Where do I get the equipment to try this?

Haha, wow...going way back in the thread. Very cool. Nobody's asked me about oxygen in a long time. I was very fascinated by many peoples' strongly negative reaction to this idea when I presented it a few months ago. The truth is, at proper pressure (just keep it close to atmospheric pressure) and proper oxygen content (% oxygen; L/min), concentrated oxygen is not only safe but extremely beneficial for memory, reaction time, brain energy, etc.

A number of people just told me to try deep breathing...which I agree with 100% and which I love! However, concentrated oxygen in addition to deep breathing definitely gives me an extra boost on top of the boost that comes from deep breathing. I would just encourage them to look at the studies that I've cited previously for more info (Stough/Scholey and Chung, esp). There are quite a few and they ALL indicate safety with zero side effects at the doses I'm using.

Here is a non-technical two page discussion of glucose/dextrose and oxygen (both of which I use...just keep your doses of both VERY low).
http://oreilly.com/c...pter/hack72.pdf

Glucose: http://www.amazon.co...eywords=glucose
Oxygen: http://www.ebay.com/...=item45fcbaebd4
Pulse Oximeter: http://www.walgreens...86-000042aa0777

Anecdote: I used my portable oxygen concentrator (with car charger) back in June to drive from Los Angeles to San Francisco. My gf and I left at 10pm in order to avoid traffic. I took a modafinil (major confounding factor!) at 10pm and took 3 minute sips of oxygen every 20 minutes (I kept the concentrator running the whole trip). She slept the whole 6-ish hours, we never stopped once, and I never even yawned. I slept from 5am to 9am, went to my niece's birthday, and never skipped a beat. Thanks science!

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 07:38 PM

About the oxygen. I used to dive back in my country and had to pass some theory exams before I could dive deeper than 20m. In short, oxygen becomes toxic at partial pressure above 1.6 Bar. What does it exactly mean? Here is a short explanation.

On the sea level, the air pressure is 1 Bar. Air consists of (lets round the numbers) 80% of N2, 20% of O2 and others gases. The partial pressures of N2 and O2 are calculated in this way:
pN2 = 0.8 x 1 Bar = 0.8 Bar
pO2 = 0.2 x 1 Bar = 0.2 Bar

Now as you dive deeper pressure (of the surrounding water and the air you inhale) rises at the pace of 1 Bar per 10 meters. So at the depth of 10 meters the total pressure is:
P = 1 Bar (of air at sea level) + 1 Bar (of 10m of water) = 2 Bar

and partial pressure of O2 is:
pO2 at 10m = 0.2 x 2 Bar = 0.4 Bar

At 100m depth, the total pressure is 1 + 10 = 11 Bar and partial pressure of O2 is 2.2 Bar. And so on, you get the point.

If you breathe the 100% at the sea level, its partial pressure is.. how much?
pO2 = 1 x 1 Bar = 1 Bar

So it is completely safe to breathe 100% oxygen at the sea level and higher altitudes. You DON'T want to dive deeper than 6m in the water while inhaling the pure O2 because its partial pressure would be higher than 1.6 Bar.

Here is one German brand of the compressed oxygen bottles and here is one in the UK. I remember there was one in the US but can't find it now...

Hope this helps :)


Edit: I just found references that oxygen can cause CNS toxicity at 1.3 bars.

Edited by rikelme, 13 August 2013 - 07:43 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:08 PM

About the oxygen. I used to dive back in my country and had to pass some theory exams before I could dive deeper than 20m. In short, oxygen becomes toxic at partial pressure above 1.6 Bar. What does it exactly mean? Here is a short explanation.

On the sea level, the air pressure is 1 Bar. Air consists of (lets round the numbers) 80% of N2, 20% of O2 and others gases. The partial pressures of N2 and O2 are calculated in this way:
pN2 = 0.8 x 1 Bar = 0.8 Bar
pO2 = 0.2 x 1 Bar = 0.2 Bar

Now as you dive deeper pressure (of the surrounding water and the air you inhale) rises at the pace of 1 Bar per 10 meters. So at the depth of 10 meters the total pressure is:
P = 1 Bar (of air at sea level) + 1 Bar (of 10m of water) = 2 Bar

and partial pressure of O2 is:
pO2 at 10m = 0.2 x 2 Bar = 0.4 Bar

At 100m depth, the total pressure is 1 + 10 = 11 Bar and partial pressure of O2 is 2.2 Bar. And so on, you get the point.

If you breathe the 100% at the sea level, its partial pressure is.. how much?
pO2 = 1 x 1 Bar = 1 Bar

So it is completely safe to breathe 100% oxygen at the sea level and higher altitudes. You DON'T want to dive deeper than 6m in the water while inhaling the pure O2 because its partial pressure would be higher than 1.6 Bar.

Here is one German brand of the compressed oxygen bottles and here is one in the UK. I remember there was one in the US but can't find it now...

Hope this helps :)


Edit: I just found references that oxygen can cause CNS toxicity at 1.3 bars.

Holy crap that was an awesome post! One of the main reasons that I posted the info on oxygen was to hopefully find a diver or someone with way more experience than I have to help me be more intelligent about my oxygen usage. I really appreciate your insights.

So, I'm using 70% oxygen at 3L/min in only one nostril. Incredibly, it's enough to get my blood oxygenation level up from it's usual 98% to 99%+ (that's as high as my oximeter goes). I only keep it elevated for around 3 minutes before I take the cannula out and go back to breathing the refreshing Los Angeles soot.

If you wouldn't mind...would you please calculate how safe this is for the viewers at home? =)

Also, thanks for the oxygen options. I know that we can do way better than my ebay concentrator. What would you recommend for longer term options? Those bottles seem like they would run out very quickly (I've never tried them though).

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:33 PM

Holy crap that was an awesome post! One of the main reasons that I posted the info on oxygen was to hopefully find a diver or someone with way more experience than I have to help me be more intelligent about my oxygen usage. I really appreciate your insights.

So, I'm using 70% oxygen at 3L/min in only one nostril. Incredibly, it's enough to get my blood oxygenation level up from it's usual 98% to 99%+ (that's as high as my oximeter goes). I only keep it elevated for around 3 minutes before I take the cannula out and go back to breathing the refreshing Los Angeles soot.

If you wouldn't mind...would you please calculate how safe this is for the viewers at home? =)

Also, thanks for the oxygen options. I know that we can do way better than my ebay concentrator. What would you recommend for longer term options? Those bottles seem like they would run out very quickly (I've never tried them though).


I'm glad that I can contribute to your exceptional thread! To be able to answer your question I would have to be an expert in the human physiology and oxygen uptake, which I'm not :)
One thing that I remember (and now I just found a reference to the claim) is that you should inhale at least some CO2 with your oxygen (which you do as you're using 70% oxygen), as it has been shown that breathing 100% pure oxygen can cause hypothalamus hyperactivity. Sorry I couldn't help more :)

Edited by rikelme, 13 August 2013 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:41 PM

Okay, so the message I'm hearing is that you dont breathe the pure oxygen for long periods of time. For instance I shouldn't put on an oxygen mask and breathe it in for an entire six hour study session. Instead you only breathe it in for a few minutes at a time.

How long does it last before you need to redose? Is the effect immediate or does it take some time? Do you build up a tolerance?

Piracetam works wonders for me except for the fact that it keeps me up at night. Is concentrated oxygen anything like piracetam?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:18 AM

Holy crap that was an awesome post! One of the main reasons that I posted the info on oxygen was to hopefully find a diver or someone with way more experience than I have to help me be more intelligent about my oxygen usage. I really appreciate your insights.

So, I'm using 70% oxygen at 3L/min in only one nostril. Incredibly, it's enough to get my blood oxygenation level up from it's usual 98% to 99%+ (that's as high as my oximeter goes). I only keep it elevated for around 3 minutes before I take the cannula out and go back to breathing the refreshing Los Angeles soot.

If you wouldn't mind...would you please calculate how safe this is for the viewers at home? =)

Also, thanks for the oxygen options. I know that we can do way better than my ebay concentrator. What would you recommend for longer term options? Those bottles seem like they would run out very quickly (I've never tried them though).


I'm glad that I can contribute to your exceptional thread! To be able to answer your question I would have to be an expert in the human physiology and oxygen uptake, which I'm not :)
One thing that I remember (and now I just found a reference to the claim) is that you should inhale at least some CO2 with your oxygen (which you do as you're using 70% oxygen), as it has been shown that breathing 100% pure oxygen can cause hypothalamus hyperactivity. Sorry I couldn't help more :)




by 100% pure oxygen, would that include hyperbaric oxygen therapy?

my naturopath is recommending I do hyperbaric oxygen therapy for potential brain damage caused by a car accident, severe stress, and PTSD. Apparently is has done wonders for soldiers returning home from combat as well as kids with autism.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:27 AM

by 100% pure oxygen, would that include hyperbaric oxygen therapy?

my naturopath is recommending I do hyperbaric oxygen therapy for potential brain damage caused by a car accident, severe stress, and PTSD. Apparently is has done wonders for soldiers returning home from combat as well as kids with autism.


Well, yes. Often, clinics offering hyperbaric oxygen therapy list the oxygen toxicity as a potential risk. Like this one:

What are the risks or possible side effects of HBOT?
Under proper supervision, the risks of HBOT are very minimal. The most common side effect is ear pain, and patients are monitored closely for this. Rarely, oxygen toxicity, pulmonary barotrauma and vision change can be experienced.

3. Oxygen Toxicity. The risk of oxygen toxicity is minimized by never exposing patients to greater pressure or longer times than are known to be safe for the body and its organs. The risk is less than one in 10,000 treatments.


Diver community agrees that oxygen can be toxic starting at partial pressure of 1.3 bar and above. Divers can, and usually do, spend much more time diving than people spend in hyperbaric oxygen therapy capsules, so this may be the reason why oxygen toxicity happens rarely in the latter. It makes sense that what matters is both pressure AND time exposed to the oxygen.

Please have in mind that I'm not a specialist when it comes to assessing the risks of oxygen poising. I just share my knowledge on the theme gathered during my diving days.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:45 AM

In my experimentation I stimulated the Vermis as Asprey talks about in his youtube video, and became very wakeful (more than F3/F4), but I immediately felt a stinging in my hair follicles.

Is there a risk of damaging my hair follicles? Laser hair removal would be unpleasant.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 03:37 PM

Hey Lostfalco,

You mentioned that the Ebay laser heats up after several minutes. I purchased a vetrolaser almost a month ago and noted that it does get warm also after some time. I don't feel any heat/warmth actually coming out of the laser but the laser itself is warm to the touch after some time. When you were using the vetrolaser, did you just laser a couple spots or so and then take a break from it for however long it took for the laser to cool down before proceeding? My protocol in the last 1.5 week has been to laser 8-10 spots total, alternating 4-5 spots every other day and taking a day or 2 off each week.

I'm not taking any other brain enhancing supplements at the moment but I have definitely noticed increased focus from the laser itself. Before the laser, whenever I had to concentrate on something or just surf the net, I'd have these annoying somewhat obsessive thoughts that would just take over. Since lasering, these thoughts have begun to disappear, and I feel I am more in the moment, more in the zone. I can't wait to see the results in 3 months! I'll begin adding the CoQ10/PQQ TULIP protocol in a few weeks along w/a few other supplements.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 04:11 PM

Hey Lostfalco,

You mentioned that the Ebay laser heats up after several minutes. I purchased a vetrolaser almost a month ago and noted that it does get warm also after some time. I don't feel any heat/warmth actually coming out of the laser but the laser itself is warm to the touch after some time. When you were using the vetrolaser, did you just laser a couple spots or so and then take a break from it for however long it took for the laser to cool down before proceeding? My protocol in the last 1.5 week has been to laser 8-10 spots total, alternating 4-5 spots every other day and taking a day or 2 off each week.

I'm not taking any other brain enhancing supplements at the moment but I have definitely noticed increased focus from the laser itself. Before the laser, whenever I had to concentrate on something or just surf the net, I'd have these annoying somewhat obsessive thoughts that would just take over. Since lasering, these thoughts have begun to disappear, and I feel I am more in the moment, more in the zone. I can't wait to see the results in 3 months! I'll begin adding the CoQ10/PQQ TULIP protocol in a few weeks along w/a few other supplements.

Hey Skp, that's very cool that the Vetro has been working for you! It's really interesting how the laser not only gives us more endurance, but more control. I've def noticed that too. My guess is that the added energy gives us a little extra "free won't"...the flip side of 'free will'. The primal parts of our brain are constantly sending us a stream of thoughts and the more recent parts decide yes or no, act or don't act, listen or don't listen. Our fundamental urges never really go away, but we now have more power over them. It's kinda exciting for a nerd like me. =)

Regarding the ebay laser...it gets WAY hotter than the Vetro. After a few minutes, it's too hot to even put it on your skin. I've followed a very similar protocol to yours with the Vetro and had zero problems. The modest amount of heat that it puts out shouldn't be an issue. Also, I'm definitely of the opinion that lasering multiple spots (just like you are doing) is the way to go. I think your current protocol sounds excellent.

Edited by lostfalco, 14 August 2013 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 04:32 PM

In my experimentation I stimulated the Vermis as Asprey talks about in his youtube video, and became very wakeful (more than F3/F4), but I immediately felt a stinging in my hair follicles.

Is there a risk of damaging my hair follicles? Laser hair removal would be unpleasant.

Alpal, it's funny you should ask this. The way that low level laser therapy was discovered in 1967 was actually related to cancer and hair loss/regrowth. "In 1967 a few years after the first working laser was invented, Endre Mester in Semmelweis University in Budapest, Hungary experimented with the effects of lasers on skin cancer. While applying lasers to the backs of shaven mice, he noticed that the shaved hair grew back more quickly on the treated group than the untreated group." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_level_laser_therapy

Mester was trying to use lasers to cause cancer. Instead, he discovered that they actually enhance cells...including hair cells. http://en.wikipedia....ki/Endre_Mester It's much more likely that you are actually stimulating hair growth. =) Lasers used for hair removal are WAY more powerful than the Vetro and primarily use high amounts of focused heat to destroy the follicle. As with just about everything...the dose does the deciding.





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