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[Pat Bateman]

Cerluten is marketed as a peptide that causes protein synthesis in the brain which can supposedly enhance function and/or alleviate negative effects of diseases, etc. Has anyone out there tried this stuff or any of the peptides? Thanks guys (and gals)

Edited by Pat Bateman, 25 May 2013 - 05:29 PM.

[komputerhead]

I am currently doing GHRP 6 and CJC 1295 (NO DAC) SUBQ injection for a week and taking Testoluten with food Approx twice a day. I just ordered Cerluten, it arrives next week.

I had a TBI in August 2011 and have been getting better since. Just started taking Zoloft stacked with Tryptophan and have had some good results.

I'm feeling quite good so far i'm interested to see how the Cerluten goes.

Just started taking Noopept too.

[lostfalco]

I am currently doing GHRP 6 and CJC 1295 (NO DAC) SUBQ injection for a week and taking Testoluten with food Approx twice a day. I just ordered Cerluten, it arrives next week.

I had a TBI in August 2011 and have been getting better since. Just started taking Zoloft stacked with Tryptophan and have had some good results.

I'm feeling quite good so far i'm interested to see how the Cerluten goes.

Just started taking Noopept too.

Sorry to hear about your brain injury. Glad to hear you're noticing some improvement.

A few of us have been trying out low level laser therapy lately and there are some studies that have shown some preliminarily positive effects for those who have suffered tbi's. May be worth a look.

For quick reference...here's a reddit thread that has most of the recent studies listed. http://www.reddit.co..._medium=twitter

[lostfalco]

Thanks for bringing up the topic of peptide bioregulators. This is an extremely fascinating area of research that I have never looked into before. I've spent the last two hours doing some research and I ordered some Cerluten from here. http://www.antiaging...-bioregulartors

This Youtube video is extremely interesting.

I'll report back when I've tried it...I got the cheap shipping so it may be a few weeks.

[komputerhead]

Published article: Peptidergic Drugs for the Treatment of Traumatic Brain Injury http://t.co/NiXavvJ5ak

[komputerhead]

Published article: Peptidergic Drugs for the Treatment of Traumatic Brain Injury http://t.co/NiXavvJ5ak

[katzenjammer]

So anyone have any discernible results?

[Pat Bateman]

Thanks for the replies. Sorry for my tardiness but I have been in Africa for the past month with very limited internet access. I am interested primarily in the use of peptide bioregulators in otherwise healthy young people. I have no history of brain injury or medical problems other than a couple years of moderate polydrug abuse (only really worried about MDMA, used ~20 times). Komputerhead, sorry to hear about your injury but glad you are making progress, hang in there. Lostfalco, funny that you learned about the peps from IAS, that is were I first heard about them. It is just worrisome that all the research either is coming from the same russian scientist or the groups he heads up. Let us know how it works out. Im starting law school in August so im looking for any edge I can get that is healthy, non-toxic, safe for longer term use, and not an ach-related or active compound such as piracetam (I took for about 1.5 years and loved it but it was mildly addictive and I felt a little retarded for a few weeks after I weaned off of it). Thank y'all again for the replies. Cheers.

[Wave Txlitl Met]

Glad I've found this thread. My own experience with TBI is that after a few years and good social exposure, you learn what really needs finding or is endangering life outcomes. After a few years, too, the brain normalizes and the nerves/self need more higher cognitive *treatment*. Subjectively: Some discomfort, a Neo-sense the world is not what it should be. A whole arsenal of procedural knowledge learned in grade school (vicissitudes in friendship, "hard knocks") is very hard to access or acquire in scenarios again. I'm not preaching but this is my experience. Was I damaged? I was almost dead with a Glasgow Coma Scale of 3 (!) when found by paramedics. Damages don't qualify me per se. I'd love to save others the efforts I've seen to get even rudimentary approaches down. I'm thrilled komputerhead is using nootropics only 2y. in (at the time he wrote). Just thrilled! I was using only taurine and glutamine and it rocked my world, then. I can't imagine noopept or the Russian peptide bioregulators this early.... 

 

What is a TBI issue is literally lost knowledge. There's bad learning there, too, hang-ups and personal facades. TBI is a chance to rebuild oneself mentally. Some make trades with TBI where nothing is noticeably gone. Some trade blow for blow and abide a sense of loss. Komputerhead is ahead of the game. I wonder what you're doing now, 2 years later? Pat Bateman, definitely try Cerluten, if you haven't. The polydrug use isn't good, which you know. So I'm the guy who also used drugs to cover my mood, even against all medical literature on the contrary. The recommended doses of the peptides cerluten and endoluten work. The key is context. Make sure you're taking care of yourself while doing it. OR else, you're bailing a leaky vessel with dollar bills ($1000s) spilling out the sides instead of piling around you in w(h)ealth. 

 

Komputerhead, I think your TBI is 4 years old. The great, lasting danger of TBI that results in poor employment and social isolation, which can be addressed with a pill, is the fatigue. The fatigue. That's the thing that stops you saying the right words, keeping up the flirt, making the smart office move, being seen as on top of things. Not you specifically, but you/us generally. It's the thing that makes people think, you know, x is fun but he gets boring. Maybe I'm boring and projecting! A gf said, it's funny that if the night is late enough, I will just power down. Well, after all the nootropics and brain training, the fatigue is one riddle I almost resolved myself to suffer to decrepitude. Luckily not. It is even part of other people's lives without this injury, but from stress or occupational mental injuries, or social defeat, even defeatism. There are good hearted doctors and scientists taking it very seriously. 

 

You may know this fatigue? You might even know what's it's variously called. My case-doctor called it neuro-genic fatigue. No searches come up. I've seen it on pub med as post-traumatic brain injury fatigue (PTBIF).

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18219234

Nothing came up that strikingly helps, however. It seems like a silence or lack of funding to deal with the most salient issue with TBI. Luckily, the solution resonates from other fields.

 

So what's this pill?

 

It's not caffeine or a stimulant. It's not a nootropic or amino acid (those all help for passing). It is almost Cerluten but not quite. It's type is the beautiful Russian products that deal with asthenia or asthenic tendencies specifically. 

 

Asthenia [asthē′nē·ə]

Etymology: Gk, a + sthenos, without strength

1 the lack or loss of strength or energy; weakness; debility.

2 (n psychiatry) lack of dynamic force in the personality.

 

The three products are one in type for dealing with the pineal (or "epiphysis"). This small gland is the singular master for regulation of bodily systems. For my message, it keeps the body suitably adapted at all times to be wakeful or sleepy by season or occasion (read: cued by appropriate stimuli to feel awake or tired). There are many other functions of the pineal, all hitting that balance of systems which the TBI-sufferer wishes to recapture. 

 

1/3 of the Russian peptides are natural. 2/3 are synthetic. Endoluten is superb. It is $$ and worth it (in the right context). Epitalon and Pinealon are the synthetic varieties of which pinealon is notably helpful. I've not had a "drug-like" side-effect from the synthetic varieties. To put it as a gustatory sensation, the endoluten natural kind is simply "creamier". I can't explain it better without needlessly detracting from either camp. 

 

This study is the source of 'cross-resonance' for TBI fatigue treatment from other fields. Bear in mind, this study links borderline mental disorders with fatigue, which experience over a decade has been a peril for me (when stressed, fatigued, hemmed in--I mean, feeling mental generally but actually starting to go mental for lacking tools). 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23734521

 

(The closing remarks are typical for psychonauts self-medicating to make.)

 

Trying is the best way to know. Unlike hard drugs or impulses, these polypeptides have no known risk. It is food or food replicas. The TBI sufferer can waste tens of thousands of dollars in all sorts of therapies. The insurance covered services do have great acute ER treatment but are not very helpful with out-patient aids "to get back on one's feet." The polypeptides address the fatigue component of the problem. There's plenty of functional aids out there. Who is talking about rest? 

 

TBI is a philosophically and medically nebulous topic, being so implicated in the hardware of man and deep questions of being. Specialists will not tailor a program as effectively as the sufferer who tries will. Never give up. The damage touches schools of thought that don't meet otherwise (what is mankind? what dose of strattera?). It also needs oversight on the most intimate parts of the patient, who (hopefully) can survey these parts (at some point in progress).

 

Best of luck! I've simply had the broadest, high-level benefit from pineal-specific health products for dealing with fatigue, integration, and wellness. 

 

Thanks for reading to the end! 

Edited by Wave Txlitl Met, 04 October 2015 - 11:13 PM.