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[sparkk51]

So, is the order currently in standby, or has it been going underway without pause? I agree that a third-party test should be made before trying the substance, but I would hope that we all receive the shipment before we get the test result so we don't need to wait several weeks afterward. What I am saying is, I don't think there's any reason to delay the order from shipping. Of course I don't know what our course of action would be if the substance does turn out to be unsatisfactory.

[ScienceGuy]

I will make an effort and send you another sample personally if that is what you want to do away with any recent ill conversations. I just need your approval and exact details on how you want to proceed with this since I don't want to repeat what has already happened for that would simply be insane.

YAYAYADA, with the utmost respect you cannot have it both ways... and what you have said cannot be 'unsaid'... You have made extremely clear your feelings towards me, and have not once, but in fact repeatedly stated that you believe I have a HIDDEN AGENDA, specifically that "I have a strong material interest vested in holding onto some sort of leverage or dominance in the nootropic area"

I want to make perfectly clear that I harbor no ill feeling towards you whatsoever, but your change of heart because you now find yourself inconvenienced does not change THE SITUATION that is of your own making... You have put this accusation out there... and it is unfortunately of the ilk that cannot be rescinded... and as a direct consequence of this SITUATION, I cannot any longer be directly involved; and I especially cannot be involved in the third party testing of this compound... this is the only way that everyone, including YOU, can be absolutely sure that there is indeed no 'funny business' going on...

Like I have already said, I am very happy to help INDIRECTLY, by recommending reputable third party labs for you to use to carry out the third party analysis, wherein I have in fact already done so for you... wherein all you need to do is to spend a bit of time and contact a number of these types of labs to obtain multiple quotes for said analysis and if you completely this relatively simple exercise properly you will be able to source someone who is willing to do the analysis for you for hundreds as opposed to thousands of dollars... Good luck, and I wish you all the best

EDIT: I should add that whilst analysis via NMR SPECTROSCOPY (e.g. BRUKER) is the absolute ideal, simple confirmation of PURITY via HPLC would be sufficient in this particular instance; and it is a LOT cheaper

Edited by ScienceGuy, 16 October 2013 - 07:05 AM.

[3AlarmLampscooter]

www.ecstasydata.org/send_sample.php

Why not just press a BPAP "ecstasy pill" and get it analyzed by GC/MS for $40?

Seems like a fairly simple and very cheap solution to me, unless I'm missing something

Edit: I'm also totally down for a second group buy if the results are positive

Edited by 3AlarmLampscooter, 17 October 2013 - 04:55 AM.

[Ribby]

Any way to get in this group buy?

[Lemon.]

why are their idiots giving out -rep for no reason, THINK .

[unregistered_user]

why are their idiots giving out -rep for no reason, THINK .

If I had to guess, it would be because his question was answered a few posts ago on 10/14. Only guessing though. I didn't neg rep anybody.

[Anagram 3.3]

I can't wait to see the results you guys post.

[Reformed-Redan]

I can't add any new guys to the group buy, lol. I'll see if a second round can be completed if results are positive. No guarantees yet.

[phil8462643]

What is the situation? Do you have the bpap or is the lab holding on to it? Have you arranged testing? Has it been sent to the lab? I am in Bangkok teaching these days BTW but my US address is still the same.

[Reformed-Redan]

What is the situation? Do you have the bpap or is the lab holding on to it? Have you arranged testing? Has it been sent to the lab? I am in Bangkok teaching these days BTW but my US address is still the same.

Still being made into HCL form last I remember. I've been busy and haven't gotten word from the lab. Can't say how long till it is in your hands. At the moment organizing a lb test is beyond my capabilities with everything else happening. This isn't stopping you from doing your own lab test. Sorry; but, all I can provide are the lab tests from the custom synthesis company. If you're not satisfied with that then there are always different companies you can request an analysis. I have your updated address and will give notification as soon as everything is finished up. Thanks again for your patience.

[boff]

How much material should we expect to receive? Earlier in this thread a member indicated that 1g was required for a lab analysis. If we all do our own testing there may not be much left over!!

[Reformed-Redan]

OK, good news. The supplier indicated that crystilization of BPAP is very very hard. It can be done and most likely will be done; but, I opted for liquid form. The supplier indicated that vials of 15mg/ml can be made without a problem at the moment. I don't know how concentrated the compound can be made inside a ml; but, I'll see how to get that 1g in liquid form to you guys and gals. Anyhow, things are practically done and just need to be handed to you. Almost there! Phew!

[boff]

Great! I have already requested that the supplier send the sample to Tocris. I'll pay for the analysis out of pocket if I have to. Thank you for all your time ScienceGuy. I'll post the results from the BPAP analysis ASAP.

Hi yadayada - Can I just double check that this in fact never happened. I would be happy to split the costs if they are reasonable (low hundreds).

[Reformed-Redan]

Great! I have already requested that the supplier send the sample to Tocris. I'll pay for the analysis out of pocket if I have to. Thank you for all your time ScienceGuy. I'll post the results from the BPAP analysis ASAP.

Hi yadayada - Can I just double check that this in fact never happened. I would be happy to split the costs if they are reasonable (low hundreds).

Yeah, it didn't happen. Sorry.

[3AlarmLampscooter]

How does one do a group buy?

Walks into the group store and asks for one.

Really is is one person who orders custom synthesis of some compound, and organizes distribution to several other people. At its most basic (or acidic, depending on the compound... haha), drug dealing of legal substances.

Edited by 3AlarmLampscooter, 25 October 2013 - 08:06 PM.

[phil8462643]

I cant wait to try this! rittie and adderley are becoming arseholes these days.... headache city!

[Citrus Bolt]

Hey yada, I just wanted to confirm that you got my new address as I didn't get a response to my PM.

[Reformed-Redan]

Send me another PM, thanks.

I have so many PM's so I cant be sure if I got it or not.

[meatsauce]

So are we still going to have the BPAP tested by a third party?

[Reformed-Redan]

Guys, I'm still trying to figure out how shipping is going to work for participants in the UK and AU. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. I could still use a distributor for the UK/EU. Thanks.

[phil8462643]

Remember, My address is still in the US
How's US shipping going?

I used to live in england, getting add meds from america all the time. I will ask a mate how we did it. I seem to recall that cheapest method was best. Gotta wait fir mate to wake up and I will let you know. I think USPS was the way but I will let you know in about 12 hrs if matey picks up the phone.

[3AlarmLampscooter]

My advice would be to seal it in a mylar pouch, and stick it in a first class international letter.

If you can get it under 1/4" thick and very well sealed, it'll work fine.

[Reformed-Redan]

Woo-hoo, gonna be trialing BPAP for the first time, haha!

Edited by yadayada, 11 November 2013 - 05:43 AM.

[lourdaud]

Woo-hoo, gonna be trialing BPAP for the first time, haha!

Eagerly awaiting results!
(please reply to my pm btw)

[sparkk51]

Oh, you have it? Do you have any experience with stimulants such as methylphenidate or amphetamines? Please give your thoughts ASAP!

[phil8462643]

Found Knoll's other invention under the counter no prescrip needed at my local pharm! Love it. If he was excited about bpap it must be good!

[sparkk51]

yadayada, how is the shipment going?

[Reformed-Redan]

yadayada, how is the shipment going?

It's on its way afaik. Havent gotten tracking yet for the 1g sample. It's a little hazy atm; but, just give it time and all will clear up and be ready. I think, my supplier indicated that he will handle shipping to all participants, which is awesome, including residents of AU, UK, EU, and US. Pretty neat?

[sparkk51]

Oh cool, that also answers what I would ask next: whether it was you it was on its way to or the other participants. Thank you for handling all this!

[lourdaud]

yadayada, how is the shipment going?

It's on its way afaik. Havent gotten tracking yet for the 1g sample. It's a little hazy atm; but, just give it time and all will clear up and be ready. I think, my supplier indicated that he will handle shipping to all participants, which is awesome, including residents of AU, UK, EU, and US. Pretty neat?

Hmm.. almost sounds too good to be true..