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[TheFountain]

So, I was a vegetarian for a long time. Since age 13. I was even vegan for a couple years (that didn't work out, due to lack of energy and Libido and shit like that).

Anyway, I have incrementally added animal products back in, first with dairy, then with fish for the last couple years. But I still felt as if something was missing.

So, I decided to take the experimental plunge this week and add grass fed, cage free chicken to the diet.

I started this less than a week ago, but my question to the Paleo people is this.

What should I be looking for as far as differences in how I feel physically and mentally?

Should I expect my dick to be hard all day? Better muscle retention? More hair on my legs?

More info about the diet.

I don't consume any grains right now. Most of what I eat is Fish, all natural greek yogurt, berries, banana's, eggs, skim milk with no added growth hormones, kale, broccoli, Dark Chocolate, etc.

So I am pretty much Paleo at this point.

This is the "sex drive diet", I am guessing?

I should notice increased stamina, yes? Increase in gains, yes? Increase in sex drive, yes?

Okay, so you guys tell me.

[chemicalambrosia]

The chief thing you will notice is that chicken is delicious. I don't know if it will be so delicious that your dick will become hard all day, but it might.

[TheFountain]

That doesn't help.

I am confused. Am I on fuckin primal or fuckin paleo right now?

What about Turkey meat? What would be the davantages of adding a little gobble gobble to my stringent paleo/sissoniston regimen?

[tunt01]

That doesn't help.

I am confused. Am I on fuckin primal or fuckin paleo right now?

What about Turkey meat? What would be the davantages of adding a little gobble gobble to my stringent paleo/sissoniston regimen?

You will be dead by Wednesday 5 PM next week.

[TheFountain]

That doesn't help.

I am confused. Am I on fuckin primal or fuckin paleo right now?

What about Turkey meat? What would be the davantages of adding a little gobble gobble to my stringent paleo/sissoniston regimen?

You will be dead by Wednesday 5 PM next week.

Alongside your mother?

Speaking of dead, these chicken tender fillets are easy to cook bro, it's like 5 minutes each side and babam, ready to eat. I am glad I don't kill these poor things more than they already are dead.

But yet, I notice a little more sperm production now.

Is this normal when adding land animals back in to the regimen?

Hey prophets, I up voted your humor. Least you could have done was up vote mine! lol

[tunt01]

Sorry, I've never paid attention to this voting system in any way.

I remember Michael Rae recommending Turkey over Chicken as being a more optimal poultry source. I can't remember why, but I personally would prefer turkey over chicken. The chicken processing industry is pretty disgusting, if you've ever seen a cage/plant.

[rwac]

Just curious, have you tried seafood like oyster/shrimp/lobster ?

[niner]

I remember Michael Rae recommending Turkey over Chicken as being a more optimal poultry source. I can't remember why, but I personally would prefer turkey over chicken. The chicken processing industry is pretty disgusting, if you've ever seen a cage/plant.

I'm not sure why turkey would be better than chicken, but if I had to guess I'd say it was the omega 6/3 ratio. Apparently that is a weak spot with typical chicken. One change that might be noticed after not eating chicken for 15 years is that it doesn't taste very good any more. Modern chicken is some kind of mutant bird that produces mostly dry "white meat", which I guess is favored by white people. Or something. I rarely eat chicken any more, unless it's pretty heavily disguised. And that's not even considering the appalling meat processing industry, which is the best reason ever to be a vegetarian.

[TheFountain]

Sorry, I've never paid attention to this voting system in any way.

I remember Michael Rae recommending Turkey over Chicken as being a more optimal poultry source. I can't remember why, but I personally would prefer turkey over chicken. The chicken processing industry is pretty disgusting, if you've ever seen a cage/plant.

Yea but as indicated I am sticking with the cage free, free range, grass fed stuff. Why is Turkey a better source of bird protein?

Just curious, have you tried seafood like oyster/shrimp/lobster ?

That is a regular part of my diet.

I added chicken as an experiment to see if I felt any better than previously energy wise and what have you.

So far I note an increase in energy.

Again, I am eating the free range, cage free stuff with no hormones added.

I'm not sure why turkey would be better than chicken,

+1.

The reason I am adding a little land animal is as an experiment since most of the Bros seem to think it is replete in enzymes that raise the big T in men.

Plus last I checked chicken had some carninutrients, taurine in it I believe.

[TheFountain]

Niner, all my research indicates white animal meat is the best for health, as long as its grass fed/allnatural.

[sthira]

Again, I am eating the free range, cage free stuff with no hormones added.

From the environmental and humane points of view I'm not sure these are much better. I may be wrong. But I've seen firsthand what "cage-free" and "free range" mean, and I'm unimpressed. I feel like if you eat animals you should be required to also kill them, prepare them, and know the consequences. At least one time, maybe. But even so, modern turkeys and chickens are such genetic nightmares that even beyond the environment problems posed by their hyper-consumption I'd not eat one even if I had to kill it.

We humans really don't need to kill and eat animals to maintain optimal health. Intelligent, thoughtful vegetarianism is our future as a species.

[Hebbeh]

Plus last I checked chicken had some carninutrients, taurine in it I believe.

Fish is a rich source of taurine.

[TheFountain]

Plus last I checked chicken had some carninutrients, taurine in it I believe.

Fish is a rich source of taurine.

Had No idea.

What about these mythical enzymes that contribute to raised testosterone levels, according to the bros?

Again, I am eating the free range, cage free stuff with no hormones added.

From the environmental and humane points of view I'm not sure these are much better. I may be wrong. But I've seen firsthand what "cage-free" and "free range" mean, and I'm unimpressed. I feel like if you eat animals you should be required to also kill them, prepare them, and know the consequences. At least one time, maybe. But even so, modern turkeys and chickens are such genetic nightmares that even beyond the environment problems posed by their hyper-consumption I'd not eat one even if I had to kill it.

We humans really don't need to kill and eat animals to maintain optimal health. Intelligent, thoughtful vegetarianism is our future as a species.

I agree with your take on the environmental impact of factory farming. Which is why I am only consuming what I know to be humanely raised animals.

[niner]

What about these mythical enzymes that contribute to raised testosterone levels, according to the bros?

Odds are good that the bros are full of shit on that. Enzymes are protein, which the body treats as food. We degrade and metabolize them. Regarding the chicken vs turkey question, what about omega 6/3 ratios?

[TheFountain]

What about these mythical enzymes that contribute to raised testosterone levels, according to the bros?

Odds are good that the bros are full of shit on that. Enzymes are protein, which the body treats as food. We degrade and metabolize them. Regarding the chicken vs turkey question, what about omega 6/3 ratios?

I hear you, but why is my sperm production up after I started consuming chicken?

And where to the Bro's get the idea that animal meat=Testosterone? By Animal meat they are always referring to Fauna, not fish from my understanding.

[Iporuru]

Fauna includes fish.

[TheFountain]

Fauna includes fish.

Oh right, fish are not Flora. haha

[TheFountain]

I seem to feel fuller for longer since I added chicken to my diet again. It definitely increases the satiety index.

[Application]

What about these mythical enzymes that contribute to raised testosterone levels, according to the bros?

Odds are good that the bros are full of shit on that. Enzymes are protein, which the body treats as food. We degrade and metabolize them. Regarding the chicken vs turkey question, what about omega 6/3 ratios?

I hear you, but why is my sperm production up after I started consuming chicken?

And where to the Bro's get the idea that animal meat=Testosterone? By Animal meat they are always referring to Fauna, not fish from my understanding.

Did you get your sperm count tested or is this subjective?

The dea that meat=testosterone sounds like a stereotyped fantasy about maleness.

[TheFountain]

What about these mythical enzymes that contribute to raised testosterone levels, according to the bros?

Odds are good that the bros are full of shit on that. Enzymes are protein, which the body treats as food. We degrade and metabolize them. Regarding the chicken vs turkey question, what about omega 6/3 ratios?

I hear you, but why is my sperm production up after I started consuming chicken?

And where to the Bro's get the idea that animal meat=Testosterone? By Animal meat they are always referring to Fauna, not fish from my understanding.

Did you get your sperm count tested or is this subjective?

The dea that meat=testosterone sounds like a stereotyped fantasy about maleness.

I agree it is stereotypical and I use to think it meant nothing but you are talking to someone who was a vegetarian for many years. And I could gain a little muscle but maintaining it is a real bitch without some kind of land animal protein.

I really think Chicken meat (cage free) has an effect on male hormones, and probably other meats. This is of course based entirely off my personal experience.

Fish has things land animals don't, but land animals have something fish does not. Whatever it is increases my manhood.

[Thorsten3]

What about these mythical enzymes that contribute to raised testosterone levels, according to the bros?

Odds are good that the bros are full of shit on that. Enzymes are protein, which the body treats as food. We degrade and metabolize them. Regarding the chicken vs turkey question, what about omega 6/3 ratios?

I hear you, but why is my sperm production up after I started consuming chicken?

And where to the Bro's get the idea that animal meat=Testosterone? By Animal meat they are always referring to Fauna, not fish from my understanding.

Did you get your sperm count tested or is this subjective?

The dea that meat=testosterone sounds like a stereotyped fantasy about maleness.

I agree it is stereotypical and I use to think it meant nothing but you are talking to someone who was a vegetarian for many years. And I could gain a little muscle but maintaining it is a real bitch without some kind of land animal protein.

I really think Chicken meat (cage free) has an effect on male hormones, and probably other meats. This is of course based entirely off my personal experience.

Fish has things land animals don't, but land animals have something fish does not. Whatever it is increases my manhood.

Meat is pretty much the most nutrient dense food on the planet. However, even organic sources are pumped full of endocrine disrupting chemicals. You were probably just deficient in certain minerals/vitamins and adding in chicken has assisted in correcting that. Perhaps you're just feeling high from the beba carbolines. I've never heard of chicken turning a man into a stallion. Unless the meat is of exceptional quality (hardly any of it is).High in zinc, selenium, magnesium and all the other cofactors needed for testosterone production.

[rwac]

I agree it is stereotypical and I use to think it meant nothing but you are talking to someone who was a vegetarian for many years. And I could gain a little muscle but maintaining it is a real bitch without some kind of land animal protein.

I really think Chicken meat (cage free) has an effect on male hormones, and probably other meats. This is of course based entirely off my personal experience.

Fish has things land animals don't, but land animals have something fish does not. Whatever it is increases my manhood.

How much Omega-3 were you eating before you started the chicken?

[TheFountain]

Perhaps you're just feeling high from the beba carbolines. I've never heard of chicken turning a man into a stallion. Unless the meat is of exceptional quality (hardly any of it is).High in zinc, selenium, magnesium and all the other cofactors needed for testosterone production.

As regards the minerals and such, I have been taking a multi-vitamin half dose as well, and was taking full doses prior to the re-introduction of chicken into the diet.

I agree it is stereotypical and I use to think it meant nothing but you are talking to someone who was a vegetarian for many years. And I could gain a little muscle but maintaining it is a real bitch without some kind of land animal protein.

I really think Chicken meat (cage free) has an effect on male hormones, and probably other meats. This is of course based entirely off my personal experience.

Fish has things land animals don't, but land animals have something fish does not. Whatever it is increases my manhood.

How much Omega-3 were you eating before you started the chicken?

I have been supplementing for years. 2 grams a day generally. And eating a lot of sardines.

[rwac]

I have been supplementing for years. 2 grams a day generally. And eating a lot of sardines.

That might be it. Excess omega-3 can lead to lipid peroxidation over the longterm, and in turn affect your sperm.

[TheFountain]

I have been supplementing for years. 2 grams a day generally. And eating a lot of sardines.

That might be it. Excess omega-3 can lead to lipid peroxidation over the longterm, and in turn affect your sperm.

I have not changed my dosage since re-introducing chicken and my production is up.

[Layberinthius]

Watch out for nightmares, I would expect nightmares to cause stress in the human brain, stress which can then carry onwards into your daily life. If your brain isnt getting enough quality restful non-nightmareish sleep then you could end up having an accident which would kill you from a lack of sleep, eg car accident, something similar, etc.

Whenever I eat chicken I get nightmares, I dont know what it is from but it appears to be all chicken types which are affected, ones with a lot of herbs, ones which are organic without herbs, ones which are prepackaged, etc.

And no I dont kill my own chickens, this is from store bought chickens.

Edited by Layberinthius, 13 September 2013 - 04:28 AM.

[Thorsten3]

Watch out for toffee, too. Toffee gives me the shits.

[sthira]

Watch out for nightmares...

Whenever I eat chicken I get nightmares, I dont know what it is...

Mary J Blige discusses her chicken nightmares:

“I wake up in cold sweats just craving chicken …it’s really aggravating.
Since that video leaked on Youtube i haven’t had 1 good night of sleep. I keep having this dream I’m being chased by a 2piece and a biscuit and the only way I can survive is if I eat the chicken and I don’t eat chicken anymore ..so I just die.”

[TheFountain]

Watch out for nightmares, I would expect nightmares to cause stress in the human brain, stress which can then carry onwards into your daily life. If your brain isnt getting enough quality restful non-nightmareish sleep then you could end up having an accident which would kill you from a lack of sleep, eg car accident, something similar, etc.

Whenever I eat chicken I get nightmares, I dont know what it is from but it appears to be all chicken types which are affected, ones with a lot of herbs, ones which are organic without herbs, ones which are prepackaged, etc.

And no I dont kill my own chickens, this is from store bought chickens.

Watch out for watching out.

I find that watching out really increases cortisol levels so much that you think everything BUT watching out is causing it.

[Layberinthius]

lol @ being quoted but the nightmares are pretty bad, wonder if anyone else gets them.

http://blog.sethrobe...and-nightmares/

As its described, the nightmares are the really bad types, similar to what you get when you smoke prisoners tobacco.