After major upsets such as the Last 3 years, some investors have taken refuge in bonds. This issue of stocks versus bonds is worth resolving it up front, and in a calm and dignified manner, or else it will come up again at the most frantic moments, when the stock market is dropping and people rush to the banks to sign up for CDs. Lately, just such a rush has occurred.
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Is This Gambling, or What?
#1
Posted 05 January 2003 - 01:20 AM
After major upsets such as the Last 3 years, some investors have taken refuge in bonds. This issue of stocks versus bonds is worth resolving it up front, and in a calm and dignified manner, or else it will come up again at the most frantic moments, when the stock market is dropping and people rush to the banks to sign up for CDs. Lately, just such a rush has occurred.
#2
Posted 05 January 2003 - 01:22 AM
At 8 percent interest on $24 (note: let’s suspend our disbelief and assume they converted the trinkets to cash) compounded over all those years, the Indians would have built up a net worth just short of $30 trillion, while the latest tax records from the Borough of Manhattan show the real estate to be worth only $28.1 billion. Give Manhattan the benefit of the doubt: that $28.1 billion is the assessed value, and for all anybody knows it may be worth twice that on the open market. So Manhattan’s worth $56.2 billion. Either way, the Indians could be ahead by $29 trillion and change.
Granted it’s unlikely that the Indians could have gotten 8 percent interest, even at the kneecracker rates of the day, if in fact there were kneecracker rates in 1626. The pioneer borrowers were used to paying much less, but assuming the Indians could have wangled a 6 percent deal, they would have made $34.7 billion by now, and without having to maintain any property or mow Central Park. What a difference a couple of percentage points can make, compounded over three centuries.
#3
Posted 05 January 2003 - 01:23 AM
Bonds have been especially attractive in the last twenty years. Not in the fifty years before that, but definitely in the last twenty. Historically, interest rates never strayed far from 4 percent, but in the last decade we’ve seen long-term rates rise to 16 percent then fall to 8 percent, creating remarkable opportunities. People who bought U.S. Treasury bonds with 20-year maturities in 1980 have seen the face value of their bonds nearly double, and meanwhile they’ve still been collecting the 16 percent interest on their original investment. If you were smart enough to have bought 20-year T-bonds then, you’ve beaten the stock market by a sizable margin, even in this latest bull phase. Moreover, you’ve done it without having to read a single research report or having to pay a single tribute to a stockbroker.
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Posted 05 January 2003 - 01:40 AM
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Posted 05 January 2003 - 01:42 AM
#6
Posted 05 January 2003 - 01:43 AM
If your money has stayed in a money-market fund since 1978, you certainly have no reason to feel embarrassed about it.
You’ve missed a couple of major stock market declines. The worst you’ve ever collected until recently is 6 percent interest, and you’ve never lost a penny of your principal. The year that short-term interest rates rose to 17 percent (1981) and the stock market dropped 5 percent, you made a 22 percent relative gain by staying in cash.
#7
Posted 05 January 2003 - 01:44 AM
But the morning after the crash, with the Dow beaten back to 1738, you felt vindicated. You avoided the whole trauma of October 19. With stock prices so drastically reduced, the money-market actually had outperformed the stock market over the entire year-6. 12 percent for the money-market to 5.25 percent for the S&P 500.
#8
Posted 05 January 2003 - 02:20 AM
Two months later the stock market had rebounded, and once again stocks were outperforming both money-market funds and long-term bonds. Over the long haul they always do. Historically, investing in stocks is undeniably more profitable than investing in debt. In fact, since 1927, common stocks have recorded gains of 9.8 percent a year on average, as compared to 5 percent for corporate bonds, 4.4 percent for government bonds, and 3.4 percent for Treasury bills..
The long-term inflation rate, as measured by the Consumer Price Index, is 3 percent a year, which gives common stocks a real return of 6.8 percent a year. The real return on Treasury bills, known as the most conservative and sensible of all places to put money, has been nil. That’s right. Zippo.
#9
Posted 05 January 2003 - 02:22 AM
In 1927, if you had put $1,000 in each of the four investments, and the money had compounded tax-free, then 60 years later you’d have had these amounts: $ 7,400 Treasury bills, 13,200 Government bonds,17,600 Corporate bonds, 272,000 Common stocks
#10
Posted 05 January 2003 - 02:22 AM
There’s a logical explanation for this. In stocks you’ve got the company’s growth on your side. You’re a partner in a prosperous and expanding business. In bonds, you’re nothing more than the nearest source of spare change. When you lend money to somebody, the best you can hope for is to get it back, plus interest.
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Posted 05 January 2003 - 02:23 AM
#12
Posted 05 January 2003 - 02:26 AM
Even blue-chip stocks held long term, supposedly the safest of all propositions, can be risky. RCA was a famous prudent investment, and suitable for widows and orphans, yet it was bought out by GE in 1986 for $66.50 a share, about the same price that it traded in 1967, and only 74 percent above its 1929 high of $38.25 (adjusted for splits). Less than one percent worth of annual appreciation is all you got in 57 years of sticking with a solid, world-famous, and successful company.
Bethlehem Steel continues to sell far below its high of $60 a share reached in 1958.
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Posted 05 January 2003 - 03:28 AM
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#19
Posted 05 January 2003 - 03:35 AM
Clearly the stock market has been a gamble worth taking-as long as you know how to play the game.
#20
Posted 05 January 2003 - 03:52 AM
Nobody sent up any warning flares before the 2000-02 stock market debacle, either. Back in school I learned the market goes up 9 percent a year, and since then it’s never gone up 9 percent in a year, and I’ve yet to find a reliable source to inform me how much it will go up, or simply whether it will go up or down. All the major advances and declines have been surprises to me.
#21
Posted 06 January 2003 - 03:24 AM
Hot stocks can go up fast, usually out of sight of any of the known landmarks of value, but since there’s nothing but hope and thin air to support them, they fall just as quickly. If you aren’t clever at selling hot stocks (and the fact that you’ve bought them is a clue that you won’t be), you’ll soon see your profits turn into losses, because when the price falls, it’s not going to fall slowly, nor is it likely to stop at the level where you jumped on.
#22
Posted 06 January 2003 - 03:25 AM
The balance sheet was deteriorating rapidly (the company was taking on debt to buy television stations), there were problems with the telephones, and competitors had begun to appear. How many zirconium necklaces can people wear?
There are various hot industries where sizzle led to fizzle. Mobile homes, digital watches, and health maintenance organizations were all hot industries where fervent expectations put a fog on the arithmetic. Just when the analysts predict double-digit growth rates forever, the industry goes into a decline.
#23
Posted 06 January 2003 - 03:26 AM
Wood floors were once cheaper than carpets, but now carpets were cheaper, so the upper classes switched from carpets to wood floors and the masses switched from wood floors to carpets. Carpet sales rose dramatically, and the five or six major producers were earning more money than they knew how to spend, and growing at an astonishing pace. That’s when the analysts started telling the stockbrokers that the carpet boom would last forever, and the brokers told their clients, and the clients bought the carpet stocks. At the same time, the five or six major producers were joined by two hundred new competitors, and they all fought for customers by dropping their prices, and nobody made another dime in the carpet business.
High growth and hot industries attract a very smart crowd that wants to dry copies, as opposed to the original wet ones. Xerox got frightened and bought some unrelated businesses it didn’t know how to run, and the stock lost 84 percent of its value.
Several competitors didn’t fare much better.
Copying has been a respectable industry for two decades and there’s never been a slowdown in demand, yet the copy machine companies can’t make a decent living.
#24
Posted 06 January 2003 - 03:42 AM
In fact, when people tout a stock as the next of something, it often marks the end of prosperity not only for the imitator but also for the original to which it is being compared. When other Computer companies were called the “next IBM,” you could have guessed that IBM would go through some terrible times, and it did. Today most computer companies are trying not to become the next IBM, which may mean better times ahead for that beleaguered firm.
#25
Posted 06 January 2003 - 03:50 AM
What all these longshots had in common besides the fact that you lost money on them was that the great story had no substance. That’s the essence of a whisper stock.
The stockpicker is relieved of the burden of checking earnings and so forth because usually there are no earnings. Understanding the p/e ratio is no problem because there is no pie ratio. But there’s no shortage of microscopes, Ph.D.’s, high hopes, and cash from the stock sale.
What I try to remind myself (and obviously I’m not always successful) is that if the prospects are so phenomenal, then this will be a fine investment next year and the year after that. Why not put off buying the stock until later, when the company has established a record? Wait for the earnings. You can get tenbaggers in companies that have already proven themselves. When in doubt, tune in later.
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Posted 06 January 2003 - 03:51 AM
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Posted 06 January 2003 - 03:54 AM
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