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[shadowhawk]

EVIDENCE

=====================================
SECTION ONE, IS THERE A GOD?
Post one to
http://www.longecity...-21#entry647448
To post 602
=====================================
SECTION TWO, WHICH GOD?
http://www.longecity...-21#entry648070
http://www.longecity...-27#entry657878
To post 781
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SECTION THREE, CHRISTIANITY.
http://www.longecity...-27#entry658023
Post 782
http://www.longecity...-27#entry659099
http://www.longecity...-30#entry662064
http://www.longecity...-30#entry662206
http://www.longecity...-35#entry665859
Post 1042
http://www.longecity...-40#entry673217
Post 1187
http://www.longecity...-43#entry676194
Post 1270
===============================================
SECTION 4 DIFFICULTIES
http://www.longecity...-43#entry675613
Post 1264
FAITH, WHAT IT IS.
http://www.longecity...-43#entry676411
http://www.longecity...-49#entry681842
http://www.longecity...-50#entry682529
GODEL'S INCOMPLETENESS
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677051
Post 1280
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677234
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677302
http://www.longecity...-44#entry677722
http://www.longecity...-44#entry678000
http://www.longecity...-44#entry678002
SUMMARY OF DIFICULTIES SO FAR Post 1334.
http://www.longecity...-45#entry678690
The Measurement Problem
http://www.longecity...-45#entry678872
Quantum Physics Fallacy
http://www.longecity...-46#entry678944
GODEL DISCUSSION SUMMARY Post 1383
http://www.longecity...-47#entry679355
EVIDENCE FROM HUMAN DESIRE Post 1398
http://www.longecity...-47#entry679927
WHAT IS EVIDENCE?  Post 1502
http://www.longecity...-51#entry682966
http://www.longecity...-55#entry695483
TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN Infinite regress and multiverse.
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683333
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683338
Homunculus Fallacy, Post 1518
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683344
Hilbert’s infinite hotel.
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683678
The BGV therm
http://www.longecity...-52#entry683908
WHY THE UNIVERSE CAN'T BE INFINITE.
http://www.longecity...-52#entry684037
Vilenkin’s verdict: “All the evidence we have says that the universe had a beginning.”
http://www.longecity...-52#entry685070
IS THERE A MULTIVERSE?   Post 1557
http://www.longecity...-52#entry685221
CAN YOU PROVE A NEGATIVE?
http://www.longecity...-53#entry686728
DID JESUS EXIST?  EXTRA BIBLICAL HISTORICAL EVIDENCE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry686792
When Were The Gospels Written?
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687561
THE RESURRECTION AND HISTORY  THE EVIDENCE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687810
FINE TUNING OF THE UNIVERSE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689396
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689615
THE KALAM ARGUMENT
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689614
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS
http://www.longecity...-53#entry690102
DATING OF THE NEW TESTIMENT.
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687561
http://www.longecity...-53#entry690487
http://www.longecity...-54#entry690838
http://www.longecity...-54#entry691015
http://www.longecity...-54#entry692914
http://www.longecity...-54#entry693091
http://www.longecity...-54#entry694271
http://www.longecity...-54#entry694721
To Post 1649

[serp777]

There are more parrots all saying the same thing over and over, which is nothing. 

 

Evidence
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.  It can be testimonial - statements or the spoken or written word from the witness(es).  It can be Physical -  consisting of tangible things you can see touch smell or taste.  Articles such as hairs, fibers, latent fingerprints and biological material are physical.

Evidence can come from a document, object or event.

Evidence may come from an eye witness.

Evidence can come from experts, someone who has studied the subject.

Evidence may be hearsay.  Someone else saw it.

Evidence may be Circumstantial or indirect.  In an important sense, however, all evidence is  circumstantial because no evidence can prove a fact in the absence of one or more inferences.  Absolute proof does not exist.

Evidence can be historical facts.  It nay either be Primary evidence or Secondary evidence.  Primary evidence is evidence that actually comes from the time being studied.  Secondary evidence is is evidence that does not come from the time being studied.  The Bible is primary evidence.  A movie on the life of Christ is secondary.  The more sources the better for historical evidence.  Events only happen once.  Then they become history.
http://www.apologeti...=10&article=187
 http://www.westarkch...trabiblical.htm

Evidence may be reasoned or logical.  It can be argued.

Statistical evidence.  Numbers.

 

Evidence

Evidence, not broadly construed, is something which shadowtroll has not demonstrated, explained, or shown. It is that which is more reliable than all the nonsense produced by shadowtroll. It is generally referenced from peer reviewed journals, not random shitty websites without sources, and is not produced from unreferenced youtube video, like the William lane craig videos.

 

Good evidence does not consist of hearsay. The bible is not a primary source for supporting evidence for Christianity  just like the Scientology handbook, or the hindu Vedas are not not evidence for supporting their respective religions. A movie on the life of Christ is not a valid secondary source just like a movie on the life of mohammad is not a valid secondary evidence for Islam.

 

In conclusion, shadowtroll relies on back, weak, or fallacious evidence from unreliable sources. He tries to take all this terrible evidence, add it up, and pretend like it is good evidence by try to overload the reader with 55 pages of "evidence"; however, he doesn't realize that adding 0+0 still equals 0 unfortunately. Then shadowtroll will demand that the person arguing against evidence for Christianity needs to provide evidence against it, even though he is the one making the assertion that there is evidence, thus demonstrating his pathetic debate tactics which people have relentlessly complained about on this thread. The reader can decide for himself what a joke this entire thread is.

 

I will now insert irrelevant, stupid, and obnoxious smiley faces.
 

[serp777]

EVIDENCE

=====================================
SECTION ONE, IS THERE A GOD?
Post one to
http://www.longecity...-21#entry647448
To post 602
=====================================
SECTION TWO, WHICH GOD?
http://www.longecity...-21#entry648070
http://www.longecity...-27#entry657878
To post 781
======================================
SECTION THREE, CHRISTIANITY.
http://www.longecity...-27#entry658023
Post 782
http://www.longecity...-27#entry659099
http://www.longecity...-30#entry662064
http://www.longecity...-30#entry662206
http://www.longecity...-35#entry665859
Post 1042
http://www.longecity...-40#entry673217
Post 1187
http://www.longecity...-43#entry676194
Post 1270
===============================================
SECTION 4 DIFFICULTIES
http://www.longecity...-43#entry675613
Post 1264
FAITH, WHAT IT IS.
http://www.longecity...-43#entry676411
http://www.longecity...-49#entry681842
http://www.longecity...-50#entry682529
GODEL'S INCOMPLETENESS
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677051
Post 1280
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677234
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677302
http://www.longecity...-44#entry677722
http://www.longecity...-44#entry678000
http://www.longecity...-44#entry678002
SUMMARY OF DIFICULTIES SO FAR Post 1334.
http://www.longecity...-45#entry678690
The Measurement Problem
http://www.longecity...-45#entry678872
Quantum Physics Fallacy
http://www.longecity...-46#entry678944
GODEL DISCUSSION SUMMARY Post 1383
http://www.longecity...-47#entry679355
EVIDENCE FROM HUMAN DESIRE Post 1398
http://www.longecity...-47#entry679927
WHAT IS EVIDENCE?  Post 1502
http://www.longecity...-51#entry682966
http://www.longecity...-55#entry695483
TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN Infinite regress and multiverse.
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683333
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683338
Homunculus Fallacy, Post 1518
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683344
Hilbert’s infinite hotel.
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683678
The BGV therm
http://www.longecity...-52#entry683908
WHY THE UNIVERSE CAN'T BE INFINITE.
http://www.longecity...-52#entry684037
Vilenkin’s verdict: “All the evidence we have says that the universe had a beginning.”
http://www.longecity...-52#entry685070
IS THERE A MULTIVERSE?   Post 1557
http://www.longecity...-52#entry685221
CAN YOU PROVE A NEGATIVE?
http://www.longecity...-53#entry686728
DID JESUS EXIST?  EXTRA BIBLICAL HISTORICAL EVIDENCE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry686792
When Were The Gospels Written?
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687561
THE RESURRECTION AND HISTORY  THE EVIDENCE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687810
FINE TUNING OF THE UNIVERSE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689396
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689615
THE KALAM ARGUMENT
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689614
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS
http://www.longecity...-53#entry690102
DATING OF THE NEW TESTIMENT.
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687561
http://www.longecity...-53#entry690487
http://www.longecity...-54#entry690838
http://www.longecity...-54#entry691015
http://www.longecity...-54#entry692914
http://www.longecity...-54#entry693091
http://www.longecity...-54#entry694271
http://www.longecity...-54#entry694721
To Post 1649

 

Overload the reader with supposed "evidence"; great tactic. Bad thread is bad.
 

Evidence

Evidence, not broadly construed, is something which shadowtroll has not demonstrated, explained, or shown. It is that which is more reliable than all the nonsense produced by shadowtroll. It is generally referenced from peer reviewed journals, not random shitty websites without sources, and is not produced from unreferenced youtube video, like the William lane craig videos.

 

Good evidence does not consist of hearsay. The bible is not a primary source for supporting evidence for Christianity  just like the Scientology handbook, or the hindu Vedas are not not evidence for supporting their respective religions. A movie on the life of Christ is not a valid secondary source just like a movie on the life of mohammad is not a valid secondary evidence for Islam.

 

In conclusion, shadowtroll relies on back, weak, or fallacious evidence from unreliable sources. He tries to take all this terrible evidence, add it up, and pretend like it is good evidence by try to overload the reader with 55 pages of "evidence"; however, he doesn't realize that adding 0+0 still equals 0 unfortunately. Then shadowtroll will demand that the person arguing against evidence for Christianity needs to provide evidence against it, even though he is the one making the assertion that there is evidence, thus demonstrating his pathetic debate tactics which people have relentlessly complained about on this thread. The reader can decide for himself what a joke this entire thread is.

 

I will now insert irrelevant, stupid, and obnoxious smiley faces.
 

Edited by serp777, 31 October 2014 - 10:41 PM.

[shadowhawk]

You have shown no evidence except to parrot this over and again.  There is no convincing the willfully ignorant so I am going on.

[shadowhawk]

WHAT IS EVIDENCE?

I have defined what evidence is with the following definition.  This view of evidence may not be complete and I am sure we could add to it.  However it is a good start and comes from scholarly sources.  My posts clearly contain evidence and attack the topic from various angles.  You may disagree with the evidence but you need to give reasons not logical fallacies or name calling.

 

 

Evidence
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.  It can be testimonial - statements or the spoken or written word from the witness(es).  It can be Physical -  consisting of tangible things you can see touch smell or taste.  Articles such as hairs, fibers, latent fingerprints and biological material are physical.

Evidence can come from a document, object or event.

Evidence may come from an eye witness.

Evidence can come from experts, someone who has studied the subject.

Evidence may be hearsay.  Someone else saw it.

Evidence may be Circumstantial or indirect.  In an important sense, however, all evidence is  circumstantial because no evidence can prove a fact in the absence of one or more inferences.  Absolute proof does not exist.

Evidence can be historical facts.  It nay either be Primary evidence or Secondary evidence.  Primary evidence is evidence that actually comes from the time being studied.  Secondary evidence is is evidence that does not come from the time being studied.  The Bible is primary evidence.  A movie on the life of Christ is secondary.  The more sources the better for historical evidence.  Events only happen once.  Then they become history.
http://www.apologeti...=10&article=187
 http://www.westarkch...trabiblical.htm

Evidence may be reasoned or logical.  It can be argued.

Statistical evidence.  Numbers.

[The Brain]

Woo hoo, 56 pages of nonsense

Still no proof of god though

Plenty of proof of a mental illness though

[serp777]

You have shown no evidence except to parrot this over and again.  There is no convincing the willfully ignorant so I am going on.

 

Exactly man, you're the willfully ignorant.

WHAT IS EVIDENCE?

I have defined what evidence is with the following definition.  This view of evidence may not be complete and I am sure we could add to it.  However it is a good start and comes from scholarly sources.  My posts clearly contain evidence and attack the topic from various angles.  You may disagree with the evidence but you need to give reasons not logical fallacies or name calling.

 

 

Evidence
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.  It can be testimonial - statements or the spoken or written word from the witness(es).  It can be Physical -  consisting of tangible things you can see touch smell or taste.  Articles such as hairs, fibers, latent fingerprints and biological material are physical.

Evidence can come from a document, object or event.

Evidence may come from an eye witness.

Evidence can come from experts, someone who has studied the subject.

Evidence may be hearsay.  Someone else saw it.

Evidence may be Circumstantial or indirect.  In an important sense, however, all evidence is  circumstantial because no evidence can prove a fact in the absence of one or more inferences.  Absolute proof does not exist.

Evidence can be historical facts.  It nay either be Primary evidence or Secondary evidence.  Primary evidence is evidence that actually comes from the time being studied.  Secondary evidence is is evidence that does not come from the time being studied.  The Bible is primary evidence.  A movie on the life of Christ is secondary.  The more sources the better for historical evidence.  Events only happen once.  Then they become history.
http://www.apologeti...=10&article=187
 http://www.westarkch...trabiblical.htm

Evidence may be reasoned or logical.  It can be argued.

Statistical evidence.  Numbers.

 

 

Evidence

Evidence, not broadly construed, is something which shadowtroll has not demonstrated, explained, or shown. It is that which is more reliable than all the nonsense produced by shadowtroll. It is generally referenced from peer reviewed journals, not random shitty websites without sources, and is not produced from unreferenced youtube video, like the William lane craig videos.

 

Good evidence does not consist of hearsay. The bible is not a primary source for supporting evidence for Christianity  just like the Scientology handbook, or the hindu Vedas are not not evidence for supporting their respective religions. A movie on the life of Christ is not a valid secondary source just like a movie on the life of mohammad is not a valid secondary evidence for Islam.

 

In conclusion, shadowtroll relies on back, weak, or fallacious evidence from unreliable sources. He tries to take all this terrible evidence, add it up, and pretend like it is good evidence by try to overload the reader with 55 pages of "evidence"; however, he doesn't realize that adding 0+0 still equals 0 unfortunately. Then shadowtroll will demand that the person arguing against evidence for Christianity needs to provide evidence against it, even though he is the one making the assertion that there is evidence, thus demonstrating his pathetic debate tactics which people have relentlessly complained about on this thread. The reader can decide for himself what a joke this entire thread is.

 

I will now insert irrelevant, stupid, and obnoxious smiley faces.

[platypus]

BTW The Pope declared that creationism is bullshit, I guess there are no Catholic cretinists any longer?

[shadowhawk]

Evidence

 

serp777:   Evidence, not broadly construed, is something which shadowtroll has not demonstrated, explained, or shown. It is that which is more reliable than all the nonsense produced by shadowtroll. It is generally referenced from peer reviewed journals, not random shitty websites without sources, and is not produced from unreferenced youtube video, like the William lane craig videos.

Name calling says more about the bankruptcy of the arguments of the one calling names than the one called names.  I have given many sources of evidence which are peer reviewed and cited many debates represented by two sides, To say a you tube can’t contain evidence is the height of nonsense.  Notice there is not one rebuttal to anything I have said.  Is this supposed to be evidence or is it simply logical fallacy and name calling.
 

 

  Good evidence does not consist of hearsay. The bible is not a primary source for supporting evidence for Christianity  just like the Scientology handbook, or the hindu Vedas are not not evidence for supporting their respective religions. A movie on the life of Christ is not a valid secondary source just like a movie on the life of mohammad is not a valid secondary evidence for Islam.

Evidence can consist of here say and this is nonsense.  Almost everything we learned in school is here say.  Good evidence can and often does consist of here say.  This is true of almost all historical evidence.  The Bible is historical evidence and it is so good that nothing else compares in history.  I asked these parrots what evidence was and they gave no answer.  They simply declare here, that the Bible is like Scientology and the Hindu Vedas.  There are sharp differences but I ask, where is the evidence this is so.
 

 

In conclusion, shadowtroll relies on back, weak, or fallacious evidence from unreliable sources. He tries to take all this terrible evidence, add it up, and pretend like it is good evidence by try to overload the reader with 55 pages of "evidence"; however, he doesn't realize that adding 0+0 still equals 0 unfortunately. Then shadowtroll will demand that the person arguing against evidence for Christianity needs to provide evidence against it, even though he is the one making the assertion that there is evidence, thus demonstrating his pathetic debate tactics which people have relentlessly complained about on this thread. The reader can decide for himself what a joke this entire thread is.

Again a litany of name calling with no evidence.  These guys don’t even know what evidence is and think the logical fallacy of name calling will suffice.  Go back over the thread and you will see this kind of thing is the content of almost all the parrots repetitions.   I have presented many kinds of evidence but convincing the willfully ignorant is impossible.  I am not trying to convene them but to present a case for Christianity for the fair minded.

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WHAT IS EVIDENCE?

I have defined what evidence is with the following definition.  This view of evidence may not be complete and I am sure we could add to it.  However it is a good start and comes from scholarly sources.  My posts clearly contain evidence and attack the topic from various angles.  You may disagree with the evidence but you need to give reasons not logical fallacies or name calling.

 

 

Evidence
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.  It can be testimonial - statements or the spoken or written word from the witness(es).  It can be Physical -  consisting of tangible things you can see touch smell or taste.  Articles such as hairs, fibers, latent fingerprints and biological material are physical.

Evidence can come from a document, object or event.

Evidence may come from an eye witness.

Evidence can come from experts, someone who has studied the subject.

Evidence may be hearsay.  Someone else saw it.

Evidence may be Circumstantial or indirect.  In an important sense, however, all evidence is  circumstantial because no evidence can prove a fact in the absence of one or more inferences.  Absolute proof does not exist.

Evidence can be historical facts.  It nay either be Primary evidence or Secondary evidence.  Primary evidence is evidence that actually comes from the time being studied.  Secondary evidence is is evidence that does not come from the time being studied.  The Bible is primary evidence.  A movie on the life of Christ is secondary.  The more sources the better for historical evidence.  Events only happen once.  Then they become history.
http://www.apologeti...=10&article=187
 http://www.westarkch...trabiblical.htm

Evidence may be reasoned or logical.  It can be argued.

Statistical evidence.  Numbers.

 

Edited by shadowhawk, 03 November 2014 - 08:49 PM.

[shadowhawk]

BTW The Pope declared that creationism is bullshit, I guess there are no Catholic cretinists any longer?

1.  We are not talking about creation here in case you haven't noticed.

2.  The Pope didn't declare any such thing.  Evidence?

3.  There are many Catholic creationists.  Take this to the thread on ID and I will name some.  The Pope being one.

[The Brain]

You've name called in this thread yourself

That voids your own arguments then does it?

[shadowhawk]

Nonsense.  Just look at the evidence since the thread was started.  Again I can show you overwhelming evidence that this started from the start of the thread.  Not interested on your attempts at derailment.  Do you have any intent at sharing what Evidence is?

[The Brain]

Oh, the thread has moved from your failed attempts of proving god to ruminating over the technicalities of what evidence is has it ?

Are you going to start name calling again now ?

[shadowhawk]

The thread is about "Evidence," for Christianity.  Again your post is an example of nothing.  Ho Hummm

[The Brain]

Christianity is based upon the christian god being real.

He isn't, just like any other god that has been or to come.

God is a human creation, just look at how many humans have created.

[shadowhawk]

Christianity is based upon God being real.  True.

Christ is unlike any other God and so is Christianity.  True

Proof, evidence God is a human creation?  What does the number of people have to do with it?

[Lewis Carroll]

Christianity is based upon God being real.  True.

Christ is unlike any other God and so is Christianity.  True

Proof, evidence God is a human creation?  What does the number of people have to do with it?

 

 

Troll.

 

Edited by MajinBrian, 04 November 2014 - 01:41 AM.

[shadowhawk]

And this is supposed to be a checkmate?  What a joke.  Usual evidence of Atheists. 

[The Brain]

No god yesterday

No god tomorrow

You're on your own

On a spinning rock

Hurtling through space

[Lewis Carroll]

And this is supposed to be a checkmate?  What a joke.  Usual evidence of Atheists. 

 

The picture was supposed to be funny... It was implying that believers had checkmated atheists.

 

Oh well 

[shadowhawk]

The evidence of a Atheist.  How foolish.  Not worth addressing.  Not interested, CU. 

[The Brain]

Shadow hawk pains over the word evidence yet doesn't understand the word irony..

[serp777]

The evidence of a Atheist.  How foolish.  Not worth addressing.  Not interested, CU. 

 

Judging from the fact that you've irritated nearly ever member who has posted on this thread, lets see how low your reputation can go.

[shadowhawk]

I love your complete lack of evidence.  This is nonsense so I will go on.

[The Brain]

The nonsense has been going on for fifty six pages now.

There is indeed evidence of nonsense.

Well done you.

[shadowhawk]

WE HAVE DISCUSSED DIFFICULTIES FROM THE FIRST THREE SECTIONS SO FAR HERE.

=====================================
SECTION ONE, IS THERE A GOD?
Post one to
http://www.longecity...-21#entry647448
To post 602
=======================================
SECTION TWO, WHICH GOD?
http://www.longecity...-21#entry648070
http://www.longecity...-27#entry657878
To post 781
=======================================
SECTION THREE, CHRISTIANITY.
http://www.longecity...-27#entry658023
Post 782
http://www.longecity...-27#entry659099
http://www.longecity...-30#entry662064
http://www.longecity...-30#entry662206
http://www.longecity...-35#entry665859
Post 1042
http://www.longecity...-40#entry673217
Post 1187
http://www.longecity...-43#entry676194
Post 1270
=======================================
SECTION 4 DIFFICULTIES
http://www.longecity...-43#entry675613
Post 1264
FAITH, WHAT IT IS.
http://www.longecity...-43#entry676411
http://www.longecity...-49#entry681842
http://www.longecity...-50#entry682529
GODEL'S INCOMPLETENESS
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677051
Post 1280
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677234
http://www.longecity...-43#entry677302
http://www.longecity...-44#entry677722
http://www.longecity...-44#entry678000
http://www.longecity...-44#entry678002
SUMMARY OF DIFICULTIES SO FAR Post 1334.
http://www.longecity...-45#entry678690
The Measurement Problem
http://www.longecity...-45#entry678872
Quantum Physics Fallacy
http://www.longecity...-46#entry678944
GODEL DISCUSSION SUMMARY Post 1383
http://www.longecity...-47#entry679355
EVIDENCE FROM HUMAN DESIRE Post 1398
http://www.longecity...-47#entry679927
WHAT IS EVIDENCE?  Post 1502
http://www.longecity...-51#entry682966
http://www.longecity...-55#entry695483
TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN Infinite regress and multiverse.
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683333
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683338
Homunculus Fallacy, Post 1518
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683344
Hilbert’s infinite hotel.
http://www.longecity...-51#entry683678
The BGV therm
http://www.longecity...-52#entry683908
WHY THE UNIVERSE CAN'T BE INFINITE.
http://www.longecity...-52#entry684037
Vilenkin’s verdict: “All the evidence we have says that the universe had a beginning.”
http://www.longecity...-52#entry685070
IS THERE A MULTIVERSE?   Post 1557
http://www.longecity...-52#entry685221
CAN YOU PROVE A NEGATIVE?
http://www.longecity...-53#entry686728
DID JESUS EXIST?  EXTRA BIBLICAL HISTORICAL EVIDENCE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry686792
When Were The Gospels Written?
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687561
THE RESURRECTION AND HISTORY  THE EVIDENCE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687810
FINE TUNING OF THE UNIVERSE
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689396
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689615
THE KALAM ARGUMENT
http://www.longecity...-53#entry689614
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS
http://www.longecity...-53#entry690102
DATING OF THE NEW TESTIMENT.
http://www.longecity...-53#entry687561
http://www.longecity...-53#entry690487
http://www.longecity...-54#entry690838
http://www.longecity...-54#entry691015
http://www.longecity...-54#entry692914
http://www.longecity...-54#entry693091
http://www.longecity...-54#entry694271
http://www.longecity...-54#entry694721
To Post 1649

[The Brain]

You'd think people would be converted by now

I guess when god actually makes himself known or manifests something real the masses will be racing to sign up

[shadowhawk]

SEX.
A Christian view.  Design and Natural law left out.




 

[sthira]

Have you ever wondered (even once) why your God is so mean? The world is awash in useless pain and suffering that we at this site would like to alieviate. Science is a process that's beginning to solve the problems of pain and suffering. At least in Homo sapiens. Yet I've never heard or understood a clear, sensible theistic response to why your all-loving God forces his creatures to suffer with pointless pain.

[shadowhawk]

Right now I am talking about the difficulty of Sex.  The problem of pain and evil was delt with in Section one.  Look it up.  After we discuss Sex I will again come back to it as a proof for God.  How do you know something is evil or mean if there is no God?  Just nature?