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[Arjuna]

Whelp I'm impressed. I've been doing 2-4mg for a week and I feel energetic, and fairly upbeat. Hormones feel different, my libido is really, really there.

[Neal Cullum]

I've been taking 10 drops of lugols iodine for about 4 days now without gradually increasing it. Now I feel stupid. I've been getting muscle twitches, my sleep has been poor and my mind gets racing thoughts. Guess I should of taken it easy with it. I've stopped the iodine for time being and I was thinking of having a teaspoon if sea salt in water in the morning because I think someone reported that it helps flush bromide out the body. Is this right?

[username]

I posted this somewhere else on the forum, but that stuff really messed me up around 2 years ago. A lot of side effects STAYED.
Muscle twitches -> not good. I t gave me restless legs syndrome for a couple of weeks.
If you realize that you have bad side effects, you might be one of those who shouldn't take it. Or try to go reeeeaaally slow.

[truboy]

Whelp I'm impressed. I've been doing 2-4mg for a week and I feel energetic, and fairly upbeat. Hormones feel different, my libido is really, really there.

Arjuna what kind of iodine are you taking? The results are still there?

[cuprous]

I've been taking 10 drops of lugols iodine for about 4 days now without gradually increasing it. Now I feel stupid. I've been getting muscle twitches, my sleep has been poor and my mind gets racing thoughts. Guess I should of taken it easy with it. I've stopped the iodine for time being and I was thinking of having a teaspoon if sea salt in water in the morning because I think someone reported that it helps flush bromide out the body. Is this right?

Why would you start off with such a high dose? Sorry but that's just asking for trouble.

[Arjuna]

Whelp I'm impressed. I've been doing 2-4mg for a week and I feel energetic, and fairly upbeat. Hormones feel different, my libido is really, really there.

Arjuna what kind of iodine are you taking? The results are still there?

I started with kelp, now I do a little lugols here and there. About 2mg/day dose. Results are there; I feel energetic, great sleep, great voice, never get cold, my mind feels more fired up in a dopamine way (ease in socializing, high focus states), libido is fantastic, skin looks great, just a nice balance to everything I think it helps with the HPTA axis or something. i'm taking boron with it because I read somewhere it can push boron out, and because boron helps with the para thyroid, and increased testosterone, as well as mental states (increased alpha brainwaves). So it has a similar set of benefits as iodine, so I take them together. Awesome-sauce. Kudos to OP for turning me on to this, now it is one of my staple supplements.

Edited by Arjuna, 16 February 2014 - 02:33 AM.

[Neal Cullum]

I've been taking 10 drops of lugols iodine for about 4 days now without gradually increasing it. Now I feel stupid. I've been getting muscle twitches, my sleep has been poor and my mind gets racing thoughts. Guess I should of taken it easy with it. I've stopped the iodine for time being and I was thinking of having a teaspoon if sea salt in water in the morning because I think someone reported that it helps flush bromide out the body. Is this right?

Why would you start off with such a high dose? Sorry but that's just asking for trouble.

I fell into my old way of thinking that more is better. Anyway i feel alot better now and i'm currently taking 3 drops, sleep and energy is stable and i'll increase it one drop at a time and listen to my body.

[unregistered_user]

I would really caution people reading this thread to invest some time into researching iodine supplementation. While there no doubt seem to be benefits for certain people, it is important to keep in mind that you are tampering with your thyroid and if you aren't careful you may end up causing an issue.

It also appears that iodine needs to be taken with cofactors. I know people with thyroid issues and believe me, they don't look like any fun. I am not fear mongering here. I am not saying iodine is either good or bad. All I'm saying is, make sure you seek out balanced information on its supplementation. I've read more than a few accounts of people causing hypothyroidism, among other things, from taking iodine with reckless abandon.

I tried taking 1 drop of Iosol Formula II for 5 days and by the end of the week, had a very sore neck (on the sides), sore throat, and a few other symptoms that may or may not be attributed to the iodine. By the way, I am aware there is a detox period. Just make sure you know the risks before going after the reward.

[riloal]

BUMP, HI iodine users, how are you doing? Have you increased your dose? What benefits are you getting? Thanks

[Ace Silver]

Everything you will need to know about Iodine.

 

I Iodine

U.S. RDA 80-150mcg.

 

Iodine is a mineral, which was first discovered in 1812 in kelp. Iodine' was extracted and given its name because of its violet color. It occurs naturally and is a crucial constituent of the thyroid hormones, which monitor our energy levels. Iodine deficiency is one of the key world health problems, and at least 200 million people suffer from conditions linked to inadequate iodine in the diet. Lack of iodine can cause goiter, underactive thyroid, cretinism, and can eventually lead to myxedema.

 

Data File;

Properties:

*Determines the level of metabolism and energy in the body. 

 

*Relieves the pain of librocystic breasts.

 

*Protects against the toxic effects of exposure to radioactive materials. 

 

*Prevents goiter.

 

*Prevents thyroid disorders. 

 

*Loosens mucus in the respiratory tract.

 

*Natural antiseptic.

 

Best sources: Seafood and seaweed. most table salt is fortified with iodine.

 

Dosage:

*Iodine is best taken as potassium iodide. 

 

*Recommend to take under the supervision of your physician or nutritionist. 

 

*150mcg. RDA iodine is adequate. 

 

CAUTION----- Iodine is toxic in high doses and may aggravate or cause acne. Large doses may interfere with hormone activity. Cruciferous foods like cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and broccoli contain substances which can cause hypothyroidism by antagonizing iodine. anyone who eats large quantities of these vegetables should consider an iodine supplement. 

Everything you will need to know about Iodine.

 

I Iodine

U.S. RDA 80-150mcg.

 

Iodine is a mineral, which was first discovered in 1812 in kelp. Iodine' was extracted and given its name because of its violet color. It occurs naturally and is a crucial constituent of the thyroid hormones, which monitor our energy levels. Iodine deficiency is one of the key world health problems, and at least 200 million people suffer from conditions linked to inadequate iodine in the diet. Lack of iodine can cause goiter, underactive thyroid, cretinism, and can eventually lead to myxedema.

 

Data File;

Properties:

*Determines the level of metabolism and energy in the body. 

 

*Relieves the pain of librocystic breasts.

 

*Protects against the toxic effects of exposure to radioactive materials. 

 

*Prevents goiter.

 

*Prevents thyroid disorders. 

 

*Loosens mucus in the respiratory tract.

 

*Natural antiseptic.

 

Best sources: Seafood and seaweed. most table salt is fortified with iodine.

 

Dosage:

*Iodine is best taken as potassium iodide. 

 

*Recommend to take under the supervision of your physician or nutritionist. 

 

*150mcg. RDA iodine is adequate. 

 

CAUTION----- Iodine is toxic in high doses and may aggravate or cause acne. Large doses may interfere with hormone activity. Cruciferous foods like cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and broccoli contain substances which can cause hypothyroidism by antagonizing iodine. anyone who eats large quantities of these vegetables should consider an iodine supplement. 

[vendelin]

Has anyone found there to be a corellation between cravings for seaweed or iodised salt, and iodine deficiancy? Whenever I buy seaweed I get this really primal craving and pig out on the whole pack... It's been a while since I got any seaweed now, and my salt intake has gone though the roof. I feel the need to put salt on pretty much everything I eat, even bread, it's very bizarre.

 

Think I'm gonna try this out..

[cuprous]

Has anyone found there to be a corellation between cravings for seaweed or iodised salt, and iodine deficiancy? Whenever I buy seaweed I get this really primal craving and pig out on the whole pack... It's been a while since I got any seaweed now, and my salt intake has gone though the roof. I feel the need to put salt on pretty much everything I eat, even bread, it's very bizarre.

 

Think I'm gonna try this out..

 

Obviously it's impossible to know just what's going on with you without blood tests but that iodine is integral to hormone production and salt craving is a symptom of a hormone disorder called Addison's disease.. well, tread lightly in your self medication.  You should probably go get a hormone panel.

[vendelin]

 

Has anyone found there to be a corellation between cravings for seaweed or iodised salt, and iodine deficiancy? Whenever I buy seaweed I get this really primal craving and pig out on the whole pack... It's been a while since I got any seaweed now, and my salt intake has gone though the roof. I feel the need to put salt on pretty much everything I eat, even bread, it's very bizarre.

 

Think I'm gonna try this out..

 

Obviously it's impossible to know just what's going on with you without blood tests but that iodine is integral to hormone production and salt craving is a symptom of a hormone disorder called Addison's disease.. well, tread lightly in your self medication.  You should probably go get a hormone panel.

 

 

Thanks for the heads up. I'll stick to the RDA and try to get a blood panel done soon.

[vtrader]

Have been using lugol ~5.5mg combinded iodine per drop) at 2-4 drops per day. No only thing I have noticed is my pee smells a bit more. Nothing else, no boost in energy, no clearing of mind fog, no libido increase.

Looks like another "miracle cure" that works great for some people, ok for others and nothing/very little for the rest of us.

Going to try and increase by 1 drop each day for another week and see what happens, otherwise it will be relugated to the medicene box for extranal use.

 

 

 

[vtrader]

BTW This site explains why people should not be drinking iodine http://healthwyze.or...ementation.html .

 

Most of us never consider the link between diet and chronic fatigue or insomnia. A body produces negative warning reactions when it has too much or too little of any given thing. Most of us lack vital nutrients like the B vitamins, which are found in most vegetables. They are weakened by cooking, and they are destroyed whenever they are microwaved.

Iodine is an element that is found in trace amounts throughout the human body. It is the foundation of all nutrition, since cells need it to regulate their metabolism. When lacking iodine, people are known to suffer from swollen glands in the throat, thyroid diseases, increased fluoride toxicity, decreased fertility rates, increased infant mortality rates, sugar regulation problems, and (with severe deficiency) mental retardation. It has been theorized as a cause of A.D.H.D. for newborns of iodine deficient mothers. Iodine is the only substance known to neutralize fluoride stored inside the body, and it can shield against some radiation damage.

A New York Times syndicate reported:

"Besides causing unsightly goiters, iodine deficiency slows all the systems of the body: The digestive system becomes sluggish, nails grow more slowly, skin and hair become dry and dull, tendon reflexes stiffen, sensitivity to cold increases, and the pulse slows. Iodine helps form who we are to such an extent that a deficiency can lead to a dulling of the personality, deterioration of attention and memory, increase in irritability due to fatigue and extreme apathy."

Iodine deficiencies, soy consumption, and fluoride exposure are all causes of the hypothyroidism epidemic. Hypothyroidism generally strikes women, causing fatigue, weight gain, and cancers amongst many other problems. Therefore, we recommend topical applications of iodine, because there is no known toxicity when it is absorbed through the skin into the blood. No person anywhere understands why, but it is a verifiable fact that low to moderate amounts of iodine are harmless when absorbed transdermally.

Organic iodine is found in some foods naturally, including eggs, sea salt, cheese, asparagus, garlic, beans, spinach, and beef. As is usual with all of the critical minerals, iodine is found in higher amounts in organic foods, and there is no comparison between organic iodine and the chemically synthesized versions of iodine found in retailer products and or those so often sold by quacks. The difference is a glaring example of the difference between God-made and man-made foods.

The Iodine Speed Test / Iodine Patch Test

Most people are deficient in iodine, and there is a simple test that can be used by anyone to determine if he is deficient. This is the test that was once used by the establishment, and from our studies of it, we still believe that it is more reliable than the modern blood tests. Here is the simple procedure:

1. Apply standard 2% topical iodine in a circular area that is about the size of a silver dollar (2 inches) on the abdomen, and allow it to completely dry before redressing.
2. Check to see if it disappears within 12 hours.

If the iodine disappears within 12 hours, then the test subject is iodine deficient. This test works due to the fact that the skin absorbs iodine at the rate at which it is needed. We do not pretend to understand the whole process, but the results accurately and reliably reflect iodine consumption in the diet. Whenever a person is ill, transdermal iodine will absorb especially rapidly because iodine helps to produce the hormones which fuel the immune system. In our own testing, we have witnessed a 4 to 5 times absorption increase during periods of high stress or illness.

Apply the iodine cautiously, for real iodine is brown and it will stain almost anything. Always avoid the harmful substitutes for iodine, such as clear iodine and povidone iodine.

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis

There is a lot of conflicting information on the Internet regarding the application of iodine for those with Hashimoto's, with much of it being entirely wrong. Iodine dosage is especially important in Hashimoto thyroiditis cases, since an overdose can destroy the patient's thyroid. However, a small amount of iodine does actually help this condition. Problems tend to occur for those who consume potassium iodide supplements, and those who internally consume iodine drops. There is greatly reduced risk with iodine applied transdermally, as we generally recommend. Remember that transdermal application allows a body to better self-regulate iodine absorption.

If you feel that you must consume iodine orally, then get it through supplementing with red marine algae. It is the safest natural source for oral iodine supplementation, but other underwater vegetation generally contains toxins such as heavy metals and PCB's. You can also get iodine safely by eating fish. The oral intake of potassium iodide is a much safer alternative to iodine amongst those who are careful not to overdose, but people should beware of additives such as sodium benzoate. Potassium iodide should never be used by those with Hashimoto's disease.

The Insanity of Ingesting Iodine

Lugol's iodine is a special formulation of iodine that is sold by quacks who proclaim it to be a supplement for internal consumption. They suggest that it is a medicine for an endlessly growing plethora of diseases, but they are careful to never actually call it a medicine, lest they risk imprisonment. They present Lugol's iodine as the gold standard of iodines for drinking. The formulation is 5 g. of chemically extracted iodine, and 10 g. of potassium iodide per 100 milliliters of distilled water. There are rogue people who advocate drinking as much as three teaspoons of such chemically-extracted iodine daily; to supposedly cure and prevent countless illnesses. What it really does in the long term is damage the liver and obliterate the thyroid, awhile producing a very high risk of heart attacks. In some cases, these people are even feeding it to small children in what is blatantly child abuse.

Dr. Guy E. Abraham and his close partner Dr. David Brownstein have been repeatedly quoted and cited by the quacks of iodine drinking as "the experts" on this topic; so it is worth a moment to discuss them. Brownstein wrote an entire book about drinking iodine, and Abraham's faithful point to his credentials as a professor and a former M.D. However, their therapies are not even endorsed by their own establishment. In previous times, they were both a willing part of a medical system that routinely gives children radioactive iodine to virtually destroy any chance of them having a long and healthy life.

"Want to join the experiment? If you are already taking iodine click here to become a member, or Order a bottle for $40 to try it out for yourself!"

-- Dr. Guy E. Abraham

Elemental iodine is quite useful as a topical antiseptic, and topical applications eliminate a plethora of health issues that are wrought by iodine deficiencies. However, elemental iodine can quickly become toxic when it is orally consumed, for it is difficult to not overdose. However, it is always safe when it organically occurs in foods, such as fish. The effects of an overdose with elemental iodine mimic the central nervous system problems that are caused by well-known poisons; for instance, the metallic taste that is caused by arsenic poisoning. The iodine that is found in typical retailers is always toxic in any amount when it is taken orally, and Lugol's is not much safer.

The poisonous short-term effects of ingested iodine are well known, but the consequence of tiny amounts being ingested over a period of years is unknown. We have written this hoping that those who are considering following moronic advice about drinking iodine will research enough to find the truth prior to hurting themselves, or their children.

Symptoms of Iodine Toxicity and Overdose

• Abdominal pain
• Coughing
• Delirium
• Diarrhea
• Fever
• Metallic taste in mouth
• Mouth and throat pain
• Inability to urinate

• Seizures
• Shock
• Shortness of breath
• Stupor
• Excessive thirst
• Profuse vomiting
• Death

Other misguided followers of Abraham and Brownstein allege that ingested iodine from chemical sources is not toxic, and that the toxic effects only result from methanol being inside the over-the-counter products. They usually follow with boasts about how Lugol's iodine lacks methanol, while ignoring all the other toxicity facts about it. However, the National Institutes of Health specifically cites Lugol's iodine as being poisonous, and even its fumes are dangerous whenever it is heated. The official medical term for toxic overexposure to iodine is "iodism", and this condition is virtually always the result of oral consumption. No other 'supplement' requires environmental protection suits in its production process, as iodine synthesis is a dangerous and chemical-laden process.

Some of those who are consuming synthesized iodine (and even giving it to their children) believe that it must be safe because iodine is added to salt and bread. This is actually false. It is normally trace amounts of potassium iodide (not iodine) that is added food items. It is a significantly less toxic chemical relative of iodine that somewhat helps to compensate for iodine deficiencies. While the safer iodide can be found inside the Lugol's solution, and inside of other 'supplemental' iodine solutions, it is still dangerously easy to overdose. It is so risky that it is absolutely irresponsible to supplement with it, or to recommend it as a supplement.

It is worth noting that iodine is much safer when combined with carbohydrates like bread, because starches are known to neutralize it. Thus, even if real iodine were actually inside breads, then the breads would neutralize that iodine. The excessive carbohydrate consumption of our Western diets is one of the many reasons why so many of us are lacking iodine. For this reason, victims of iodine consumption are recommended to eat bread by iodine manufacturers and poison control centers.

There has been a philosophical debate that has raged for eons about whether laws should protect people from themselves. However, there is no debate about whether children should be protected from bad adults. All of us in society have a shared duty to protect children from harm. It is our moral duty to report any parent who is poisoning a child with iodine, or any other toxic substance, to child protective services or other relevant governmental agencies. Contact us if you know of this happening to a child, but you are too afraid to get involved yourself. Poisoning a child is a symptom of the mental illness, Munchhausen by proxy, so the abuse will only get worse in time if there is no intervention. For some really bad parents out there, the book from Brownstein is the excuse that they need.

Safe Ingestion Methods

The safest oral supplement for iodine is red marine algae, which can be purchased in capsule form. Other marine plants have toxins, such as heavy metals and PCB's. The ideal food source for iodine is baked fish. Beware of bottom feeders and shell fish, for they have the same toxins that most underwater vegetation does, in addition to toxins that they produce themselves. Pure potassium iodide is an acceptable solution for those who are careful not to overdose, but people should beware of impure products that include additives such as sodium benzoate, or even iodine. Potassium iodide should never be used by those with Hashimoto's disease, nor should they use any other oral iodine supplements.

The potassium iodide that is added to table salt is not adequate to compensate for most iodine deficiencies. It is usually sufficient to stop goitrous boils from swelling in the neck, which are caused by an extreme deficiency. However, not enough iodine can be obtained from table salt to maintain optimal health, unless a dangerous amount of it is consumed. Naturally-occurring iodine is present in unadulterated sea salt with naturally-occurring complimentary minerals, but even the vastly superior and healthier sea salt might not be enough for people who have extreme iodine deficiencies that are caused by fluoride toxicity and other mitigating factors. The safest way to intake more iodine is to increase the amount of healthy seafood in the diet, but this excludes (non-kosher) bottom feeders.

 

[niner]

The HealthWyze article above contains a mix of wrong, dubious, and good advice.   I certainly agree that Lugol's should not be ingested.  Chemically, that's like drinking bleach.

[vtrader]

The HealthWyze article above contains a mix of wrong, dubious, and good advice.   I certainly agree that Lugol's should not be ingested.  Chemically, that's like drinking bleach.

 

So the tablet form is the only legit use for internally?

[niner]

I like the potassium iodide tablets, but kelp and other ocean products shouldn't be a problem, if you wanted to go that route.

[vtrader]

Confused, there is so much contradictory information, don't know where to go. Feel like skiping this "miracle cure" and waiting for the next "miracle cure" supplement. It feels like nobdy has any consistent concreate information.

 

[cuprous]

The HealthWyze article above contains a mix of wrong, dubious, and good advice.   I certainly agree that Lugol's should not be ingested.  Chemically, that's like drinking bleach.

 

It's standard protocol in places with cisterns to pour up to half a bottle of bleach in there to sterilize the water.. just saying.

 

So do you consider all the folks taking lugol's at doses of a couple drops per pint to be doing themselves damage?

[niner]

 

The HealthWyze article above contains a mix of wrong, dubious, and good advice.   I certainly agree that Lugol's should not be ingested.  Chemically, that's like drinking bleach.

 

It's standard protocol in places with cisterns to pour up to half a bottle of bleach in there to sterilize the water.. just saying.

 

So do you consider all the folks taking lugol's at doses of a couple drops per pint to be doing themselves damage?

 

There are people who put filters on their showerheads to remove chlorine from the water.  While I consider that to be overkill, I don't understand why one would choose to consume a reactive form of iodine that mostly doesn't exist in nature.  Why would you choose to consume a powerful oxidizing agent, when the benign reduced form of iodine is what we evolved with?  It's going to turn into iodide in your body anyway, but it will do it by stealing electrons from the first source it runs into.  Will it be a protein?  DNA?  I don't want my biological macromolecules getting oxidized for no good purpose.  I don't see an upside to it.

[Turnbuckle]

Intrigued by the report in the OP, I tried one 30 mg KI tablet (23 mg iodine) and found the mental effect to be dramatic. Not as dramatic as Siro's semi-psychedelic response, but a definite build in energy and an increase of consciousness. So I've ordered a bottle of Lugol's to compare with the straight KI.

 

Note that it's a good idea to take selenium as well--Role of iodine in antioxidant defense in thyroid and breast disease.

 

And re the low RDA for iodine--

 

The extrathyronine actions of iodine as antioxidant, apoptotic, and differentiation factor in various tissues.

 

CONCLUSIONS: We propose that the International Council for the Control of Iodine Deficient Disorders recommend that iodine intake be increased to at least 3 mg/day of I2 in specific pathologies to obtain the potential extrathyroidal benefits described in the present review.

 

 

 

Also note what this paper says about iodine vs KI--

 

Figure 2 illustrates the reductive capacity of different chemical forms of iodine in comparison with ascorbic acid, using the in vitro ferric reducing/antioxidant power assay; it shows that I2 exerts a 10- or 50-fold greater antioxidant action than ascorbic acid or KI, respectively.

 

 

 

[Turnbuckle]

The HealthWyze article above contains a mix of wrong, dubious, and good advice.   I certainly agree that Lugol's should not be ingested.  Chemically, that's like drinking bleach.

 

 

If you dilute a few drops in water, it's more like drinking water from the tap. If you can taste the chlorine in tap water, for instance, then it has at least 5 mg/L. 

 

But iodine isn't chlorine. Chlorine's electronegativity is between that of oxygen and nitrogen, while iodine's is similiar to elements with antioxidant properties. Looking at a list of elements sorted by electronegativities, the following group is bunched together--

 

Iodine—2.66

Xenon—2.6

Sulfur—2.58

Carbon—2.55

Selenium—2.55

Gold—2.54

[niner]

That's a good point, Turnbuckle.  While iodine is electronically analogous to the other halogens, it does have a lower electronegativity, and engages in a wide range of reactions.  Molecular iodine is corrosive and can cause burns when it contacts tissues in high concentration, but the dose makes the poison, and a low concentration is probably fine.  The Aceves paper talks about moderate concentrations of I2 in water, like 0.05%.  (500mg/l)   (I'm not sure how they get that, as it exceeds the solubility of I2 in water.  There's probably some iodide formation involved.)   Lugol's doesn't actually have a ton of I2 in it, since the combination of iodide and I2 produces triiodide ions.  Maybe they disproportionate back into I- and I2 in vivo?  At any rate, Aceves et al. is calling for people with certain pathologies to use 3mg/day of I2, "under the care of a physician".  Give it a shot and see how it goes.  I'm still concerned about all those people on high dose iodine protocols that seem to develop thyroid problems.

[vtrader]

What is then a good source to try of iodine?

What is l2 also known as, as I don't see it in amazon.

So lodoral 12.5mg or 32mg KI tablet?

 

 

[niner]

On the Optimox site, they say:

 

The suggested daily amount is 1-4 tablets/day as recommended by your physician. Work closely with your physician while on the Iodoral® program. Report to your physician any history of thyroid surgery and/or radiation, chronic lymphocytic thyroiditis (Hashimoto), and any previous problem with your thyroid. Before starting Iodoral®, your physician (He/She = He) will order blood tests for hematology, blood chemistry and thyroid functions. He will also perform an ultrasound of your thyroid to measure the size and appearance of your thyroid. Depending on the results of the thyroid function tests and ultrasound, he may order some blood tests for thyroid antibodies. If you are taking thyroid hormones, let your physician know about it. Be aware that Iodoral® enhances the response of your body to thyroid hormones ^(4,6). Subjects on Iodoral® feel warmer in cold environments and that is expected. However, you will need to cut down the amount of thyroid hormones if you experience palpitation, anxiety, increased sweating and intolerance to heat. That is because Iodoral® decreases your need for thyroid hormones. Your physician will guide you in titrating downward the amount of thyroid hormones. Your physician will reevaluate you one month afterward if you are on thyroid hormones, and 3 months if not. Keep a record of what you observe while on Iodoral® and show it to your physician.

 

Aceves et al. recommends 3mg I2 per day.  They also claim that the iodide form is more thyrotoxic.   The chemical name for I2 is "iodine".  It might also be called "elemental iodine".  Unfortunately, you will find a lot of sloppy nomenclature, with people using the name "iodine" to refer to iodide, other iodine compounds, and various mixed solutions.  Both Iodoral and Lugols are mixtures of I2 and KI which (at least in solution) form a third compound, KI3, called potassium triiodide.   If you want to try it without a doctor being involved, then between a quarter and a half of an iodoral tablet is as close as you can get to the Aceves recommendation with the choices you've found.  It might be hard to find a doctor that would go along with a high dose iodine protocol.

Edited by niner, 04 September 2015 - 12:13 AM.

[Application]

What is then a good source to try of iodine?

What is l2 also known as, as I don't see it in amazon.

So lodoral 12.5mg or 32mg KI tablet?

 

 

I like this nascent iodine at Amazon for elemental iodine (not iodide). I use it mostly topically or in my mouth but many like to consume it too. 

Edited by Application, 04 September 2015 - 05:40 AM.

[Turnbuckle]

 

What is then a good source to try of iodine?

What is l2 also known as, as I don't see it in amazon.

So lodoral 12.5mg or 32mg KI tablet?

 

 

I like this nascent iodine at Amazon for elemental iodine (not iodide). I use it mostly topically or in my mouth but many like to consume it too. 

 

 

 

Nascent iodine came from Edgar Cayce, a mystic with a ninth grade education. It is unlikely to be anything special.

[niner]

Supposedly, nascent iodine is literally atomic iodine, with seven electrons in the outer shell.  Exactly how they get this stuff to not recombine into the normal I2 form I don't know.  I would expect it to be a saturated solution of I2 with some small particles of crystalline I2 in it, but maybe it's stabilized in some way.  According to Mark Sircus, there is "a high electromagnetic field" involve in its creation. (hooboy...)  Make of that what you will.

[Application]

 

 

What is then a good source to try of iodine?

What is l2 also known as, as I don't see it in amazon.

So lodoral 12.5mg or 32mg KI tablet?

 

 

I like this nascent iodine at Amazon for elemental iodine (not iodide). I use it mostly topically or in my mouth but many like to consume it too. 

 

 

 

Nascent iodine came from Edgar Cayce, a mystic with a ninth grade education. It is unlikely to be anything special.

 

 

My attraction to it is because its milder, as in much less burn, less stain and is reported to be less toxic. 

 

Supposedly, nascent iodine is literally atomic iodine, with seven electrons in the outer shell.  Exactly how they get this stuff to not recombine into the normal I2 form I don't know.  I would expect it to be a saturated solution of I2 with some small particles of crystalline I2 in it, but maybe it's stabilized in some way.  According to Mark Sircus, there is "a high electromagnetic field" involve in its creation. (hooboy...)  Make of that what you will.

 

from the manufacturer: 

 

…What is Nascent Iodine?

Nascent Iodine is a consumable iodine in its atomic form rather than its molecular form. It is an iodine atom that has an incomplete number of electrons. It is paramagnetic. What does that mean? Well, it means that the iodine atoms can hold an electromagnetic charge. While this all might sound a little like a flashback to chemistry class, the most important thing to understand is that Nascent Iodine has a huge energy release when consumed. This “charged” state is held by the atom until diluted in water and consumed, whereby it gradually loses energy over a 2-3 hour time span. During this time, Nascent Iodine is recognized by the body as the same iodine that is produced by the thyroid and is absorbed effortlessly by the body.
 

Is Nascent Iodine the Same as Detoxified Iodine or Atomic Iodine?

No, Detoxified Iodine is a coined name that for many years has been produced at 10 amps for five minutes with a high volume of iodine in solution. An iodine process that according to Edgar Cayce gives the molecule of iodine additional energy making it easier to assimilate into the body.

Nascent Iodine is also totally different from the typical iodine in its denser state sold as an antiseptic, or as iodine tri-chloride (claiming to be atomized), or as added to potassium iodide to make it soluble It is also unlike glandular or prescriptions containing hormones that take over the thyroid's job, instead of nutritionally building the thyroid to do its own job. Seaweed, seafood, greens, raw sunflower seeds, are good sources of iodine, but may not have the levels necessary to support the thyroid fully for good homeostasis in the body. Sources from seaweed may also contain undesirable levels of arsenic….