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[formergenius]

Thanks for the update Megatrone. Man, I'd be tempted to send them an x-ray of a middle finger. I guess it could be worse though.

[megatron]

Thanks for the update Megatrone. Man, I'd be tempted to send them an x-ray of a middle finger. I guess it could be worse though.

 

Bonee has promised to "go on a frenzy and bother them" till it gets through. 

[megatron]

Unfortunately, the shipment is still in customs in Hungary. Meanwhile, we should finish the discussion on how to ship the product. I think using dropper bottles seems like a good idea. One can always transfer some of the drug to some other medium using a small measuring scoop, and test solubility etc. with different solvents. Any input from other participants before I give cryonicsculture the go to purchase the dropper bottles? 

[bkaz]

 Any input from other participants before I give cryonicsculture the go to purchase the dropper bottles? 

 

I am all for it, thanks.

[Dazzcat]

Unfortunately, the shipment is still in customs in Hungary. Meanwhile, we should finish the discussion on how to ship the product. I think using dropper bottles seems like a good idea. One can always transfer some of the drug to some other medium using a small measuring scoop, and test solubility etc. with different solvents. Any input from other participants before I give cryonicsculture the go to purchase the dropper bottles? 

 

What's the story with the dropper bottles? Are they being shipped with the evp- dry inside? 

 

Edited by Dazzcat, 18 April 2014 - 11:16 PM.

[YOLF]

Yes the dropper bottles would only contain the EVP-6124, no water or alcohol. The recipient would get that themselves. This will make dosing accurately easy.

 

BTW started a new abx regimen today. I'm not supposed to be contagious, but that might depend on the method of transmission, swallowing inoculated EVP-6124 might negate the noncontagious status. I have a subclinical ENT infection so I could contaminate this stuff with my breath. This abx will run for 10 days and failing that, the next regimen will be 14 with whatever time it takes to get another appt. w/ my infectious disease specialist for infusions or IM ceftriaxone.

 

I've been thinking it might be better to pass this along to someone else if it drags on much longer. It was difficult to get a doctor to take my infection seriously and many of the symptoms are subclinical or look like other common infections. It's called Serratia Marcescens. Most of the drugs I was given prior to now masked the symptoms and I seem to go through a "let's make sure it isn't an allergy first" routine as I dance around like a hot potato between doctor's offices and have to make return visits to prove I have something that I've tested positive for twice. Hopefully this abx will do the trick.

 

 

[bkaz]

BTW started a new abx regimen today. I'm not supposed to be contagious, but that might depend on the method of transmission, swallowing inoculated EVP-6124 might negate the noncontagious status. I have a subclinical ENT infection so I could contaminate this stuff with my breath. This abx will run for 10 days and failing that, the next regimen will be 14 with whatever time it takes to get another appt. w/ my infectious disease specialist for infusions or IM ceftriaxone.

 

I've been thinking it might be better to pass this along to someone else if it drags on much longer. It was difficult to get a doctor to take my infection seriously and many of the symptoms are subclinical or look like other common infections. It's called Serratia Marcescens. Most of the drugs I was given prior to now masked the symptoms and I seem to go through a "let's make sure it isn't an allergy first" routine as I dance around like a hot potato between doctor's offices and have to make return visits to prove I have something that I've tested positive for twice. Hopefully this abx will do the trick.

 

 

 

I hate to quibble, you are making a big contribution, but I think you're overblowing this. Wouldn't a simple face mask suffice? 

Edited by bkaz, 19 April 2014 - 11:40 PM.

[YOLF]

I can probably get one of those. I'm in a sensitive position, if someone gets sick, I'm an Officer of LC. It would be bad for the community. I don't want to jeopardize what LC does in any way.Plus it's a presumably white powder with a drug resistant pathogen in it... That could make headlines if it gets split open on a conveyor or something.

 

I also don't know the health status of those receiving the package. This thing can can kill people with compromised immune systems or impair organ function. I wouldn't want to put anyone at risk without first notifying them. The cefixime/Suprax seems to be doing a pretty good job at day two only the worst areas of the infection are still itchy. I'm not seeing much of the systemic folliculitis remaining on my arms and only a little bit of "acne" on my face. So I'm optimistic right now. It'll take a few days to get the bottles anyways.

[bkaz]

So I'm optimistic right now. It'll take a few days to get the bottles anyways.

Great. I understand your sensitivity, but... life is time, lets save it . Let us know about extra costs.

[megatron]

Well, at this point I'm not quite sure what's going on over at Hungarian customs. The package is still stuck. It seemed like everything was going so smooth up till this point. From what I've heard, Hungarian customs were supposed to be one of the less strict ones in Europe, so I don't understand why they had to become bitches right now.

[YOLF]

Ok, I have a mask, gloves and enough bottles on hand that I should be able to get started with this in the next few days if there are no objections.

Edited by cryonicsculture, 30 April 2014 - 06:31 PM.

[bkaz]

Excellent!

[Dazzcat]

Well, at this point I'm not quite sure what's going on over at Hungarian customs. The package is still stuck. It seemed like everything was going so smooth up till this point. From what I've heard, Hungarian customs were supposed to be one of the less strict ones in Europe, so I don't understand why they had to become bitches right now.

 

Does it still look like there is a chance that they will let it pass?

[tobicles]

Any updates?

[megatron]

Cryonicsculture is currently weighing in the product and will be shipping it out very soon. On the other hand, Hungarian customs refuse to give any information regarding the package before they are done processing it :( They won't say how long it's going to take either.

[megatron]

So, cryonicsculture is ready to ship the product to US participants. Unfortunately, it turned out that the total amount we have is 284mg, not 330mg. I don't know if that much substance can be lost due to some of it sticking to surfaces, scale inaccuracy etc., but I have at least asked the lab if they made some excess product they can ship or that we get a refund for the lacking 46mg. I am awaiting their response. From this, all US participants will receive their full amount except aarfai, since your part was the last to be weighed in. It wasn't possible to distribute the loss among participants, as the substance has crystallized at the bottom of the vial, which makes it hard to measure exactly. aarfai will receive the lacking substance or a refund depending how the lab responds. This was very unfortunate :( 

 

I still have good faith regarding the package stuck in customs in Hungary, as it doesn't contain anything illegal. However, I have no idea what they're actually doing at this point, whether they are having the product analyzed or not. If they're having it analyzed they are certainly going to have to pay for the loss of product. 

[aarfai]

While being the 4th in this buy to commit/pay for 90mg I'll only be receiving 44mg? Pardon my selfishness but I am not cool with that...

Edited by aarfai, 11 May 2014 - 08:46 PM.

[VERITAS INCORRUPTUS]

^^^

At this juncture there is really no other solution as to that which has been described other than to totally negate and short two smaller 30mg orders of others whose orders followed yours.  Obviously as stated you will be afforded a refund (pro-rated I assume); or if they are afforded additional material from the lab, such will be extended to you firstly to compensate that which you were shorted. These things happen.  Note, reasonably significant loss of material within aliquoting is not uncommon with many materials.

 

I would hope you can see it is perhaps best not to elect to negate someone's 30mg order and for another to be shorted to 14mg or less as to increased loss.  Likely things will work themselves out anyway

 

It's certainly not optimal, but again, these things happen 

Edited by VERITAS INCORRUPTUS, 12 May 2014 - 12:11 AM.

[YOLF]

While being the 4th in this buy to commit/pay for 90mg I'll only be receiving 44mg? Pardon my selfishness but I am not cool with that...

Sorry, when it became apparent that there wasn't going to be enough, I moved your bottle to the end of the line assuming that the lab would just ship the rest to you (your supply should still last you long enough to get the replacement shipment). It was a substantial amount that was missing and shipping tiny bits to each person would be more work and shipping expense. Doing it this way meant only having one more package to ship (direct from the lab to you) and the fastest solution. I'm of the opinion that the lab will be able to replace the missing amount or that the labels got flip flopped and we'd be shipping you a second package from the European reshipper. I'm not sure what else would cause such a deficit. I checked the calibration of my scale twice the night I measured and again the next day using sheets of paper to ensure that the surface was level. The measurements should be good. 

[aarfai]

Thanks for the update cryonic. It's unfortunate but I understand these things happen. However with that said can someone please confirm whether the lab will indeed be shipping me the remainder? Or is this just an assumption? Thank you in advance. 

[megatron]

aarfai I will update you per PM as I get a reply from the lab. Does anyone know if customs usually pay for the amount they had analyzed? 

[YOLF]

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On it's way first thing tomorrow (couldn't make it to the PO today).

[formergenius]

Is that a Guinea Cat?

[YOLF]

lol, no, but he did by virtue of rubbing on it become the rightful owner of your shipments. You will have to remunerate him with belly rubs, catnip, cat toys, or things which are high in protein or meat if you wish for him to release the "human stuffs" into your custody. He has also expressed an interest in trading for a number of used ear swabs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

j/k

[Dazzcat]

Awesome progress, thanks so much Cryonicsculture, I need to find a way to repay you and Megatrone back the favour someday.

 

Anyhow I should hope the lab will be forthcomming. How large was the bag? In my experience, 46mg sounds like alot to go missing especially after scrapping the bag. For all we know the missing amount could be amongst the Hungarian shipment, it's likely there may of been a measuring error when splitting shipments. 

Edited by Dazzcat, 14 May 2014 - 10:32 PM.

[YOLF]

The bag that it arrived with is the bag that you're receiving actually. I figured the measurement loss would be smaller that way. If the folds remain, the bottom most fold is the size of the original shipment.

The bag that it arrived with is the bag that you're receiving actually. I figured the measurement loss would be smaller that way. If the folds remain, the bottom most fold is the size of the original shipment.

[megatron]

Awesome progress, thanks so much Cryonicsculture, I need to find a way to repay you and Megatrone back the favour someday.

 

Anyhow I should hope the lab will be forthcomming. How large was the bag? In my experience, 46mg sounds like alot to go missing especially after scrapping the bag. For all we know the missing amount could be amongst the Hungarian shipment, it's likely there may of been a measuring error when splitting shipments. 

 

Actually, it all worked out with aarfai. The lab will supply him with the amount lacking. 

 

Has anyone received the shipment yet?

Edited by Megatrone, 15 May 2014 - 08:47 AM.

[bkaz]

I just got mine: 32 ml(?) bottle with something barely discernable on the bottom .

Many thanks to Megatrone & Crionicsculture!

I bought 50 ml 100 proof vodka & poured most of it in the bottle, the residue seem to have dissolved.

I will take 1ml tomorrow morning & report.

Thanks again guys, great job!

[Dazzcat]

The bag that it arrived with is the bag that you're receiving actually. I figured the measurement loss would be smaller that way. If the folds remain, the bottom most fold is the size of the original shipment.

The bag that it arrived with is the bag that you're receiving actually. I figured the measurement loss would be smaller that way. If the folds remain, the bottom most fold is the size of the original shipment.

 

I figured I would soak the whole bag in ethanol, would I likely get more than the 60mg amount this way? Not that it would make much difference,  few mg's I guess. 

Edited by Dazzcat, 15 May 2014 - 11:33 PM.

[YOLF]

 

Awesome progress, thanks so much Cryonicsculture, I need to find a way to repay you and Megatrone back the favour someday.

 

Anyhow I should hope the lab will be forthcomming. How large was the bag? In my experience, 46mg sounds like alot to go missing especially after scrapping the bag. For all we know the missing amount could be amongst the Hungarian shipment, it's likely there may of been a measuring error when splitting shipments. 

 

Actually, it all worked out with aarfai. The lab will supply him with the amount lacking. 

 

Has anyone received the shipment yet?

 

lol one of them just came back to me (dazzcat's). The label I used must have confused the machine (I'm hoping it's just because his was an envelope and I don't get the rest back), but they are all clearly labeled (printed) with a "To:" from my printer so I'll see if I can't get the PO to correct it.

 

The bag that it arrived with is the bag that you're receiving actually. I figured the measurement loss would be smaller that way. If the folds remain, the bottom most fold is the size of the original shipment.

The bag that it arrived with is the bag that you're receiving actually. I figured the measurement loss would be smaller that way. If the folds remain, the bottom most fold is the size of the original shipment.

 

I figured I would soak the whole bag in ethanol, would I likely get more than the 60mg amount this way? Not that it would make much difference,  few mg's I guess. 

 

maybe an extra mg...