155 replies to this topic

[rfarris]

So do you have both Pramiracetam power and Pramistar, or just Pramistar?

The last time I looked at the Pramiracetam page at UN, it said 6G, but it also mentioned that they were pills, so I assume that all Pramiracetam at UN is pills, not powder.

-- Rick

[xanadu]

I see no problem with companies charging as much as the traffic will bear. That's good old american capitalism. However, when I buy, I look for the best price as well as top quality and I think most people do. The info in this thread tells us to look around. Hopefully, other companies will see the large profits to be made and jump in. Unfortunately, with the government the way it is, that isn't as likely.

[uniquenutrition]

QUOTE 
We carry the Pramistar brand 


So do you have both Pramiracetam power and Pramistar, or just Pramistar?

We carry the just pramistar and should have the powder in 1-3 weeks.

QUOTE 
Avant members get an additional discounts so our price is cheaper.

What is your discount for Avant Labs members?

We do not openly post that information as it varies with the poster, e-mail us with your poster name for the code.

Sincerely Steve Sliwa

[madamshome]

[quote][quote]QUOTE 
We carry the Pramistar brand 


So do you have both Pramiracetam power and Pramistar, or just Pramistar? [/quote]

We carry the just pramistar and should have the powder in 1-3 weeks.

On searching your site for "pramiracetam", could only identify 6G tablets (as per previous poster), also "not in stock" but due in "1-3 weeks" (not sure from when). Can you clarify what date you expect stock & whether you are taking pre-orders.

[uniquenutrition]

On searching your site for "pramiracetam", could only identify 6G tablets (as per previous poster), also "not in stock" but due in "1-3 weeks" (not sure from when). Can you clarify what date you expect stock & whether you are taking pre-orders.

We had it in stock for some time, but recently customs repeatly blocks new imports, making it very difficult to get it.


As soon as we can we will continue to try to get some in.


Sincerely Steve Sliwa
President
Unique Nutrition

[wannafulfill]

Why does customs block it?

[uniquenutrition]

Wish I knew we never had a problem til Pramiracetam, looks like other companies are having problems getting it too.


Sincerely Steve
President
Unique Nutrition

[sja_]

......and so we have to wait on freakin customs again. The bad thing is that on a whim, they can just keep steve's order and he loses his $$.....which is crap. I've heard this story many times and I truly appreciate people/companies like this willing to take the risk to get our wishes fullfilled. So don't complain if the price gets a little high.

[uniquenutrition]

US Pramiracetam in stock, Limited Supply 1-3 day Delivery

Pramiracetam (N-[2-(diisopropylamino)ethyl]-2-oxo-1-pyrrolidine-acetamide) is a fat soluble potent analog of Piracetam, the most potent Racetam compound being about 15 times stronger than Piracetam.


Sincerely Steve Sliwa
www.uniquenutrition.net

(edited by Matthias: threads 6841 & 6834 & 9097 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 04:05 PM.

[Ghostrider]

Here are my competing objectives:

1. Best Quality
2. Most affordable

In order of importance, where do I purchase Pramiracetam? I have seen similar posts on this topic, but they are quite old and I expect that there are more suppliers today than a year ago. Where do I go?

(edited by Matthias: threads 10688 & 6841 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 03:51 PM.

[doug123]

You can purchase Pramiracetam from qhi:

http://qhi.co.uk/list.asp?r=481

$70.2715 USD for a 10 day supply. That is jacked if you ask me.

Aniracetam and Oxiracetam both appear to have similar effects; for far cheaper, too.

Peace.

[xanadu]

I would check with the forum's sponsor, relentless as well as unique nutrition.

[Shepard]

Aniracetam and Oxiracetam both appear to have similar effects; for far cheaper, too.

What effects are those?

Whatever the mind can imagine?

[doug123]

Aniracetam and Oxiracetam both appear to have similar effects; for far cheaper, too.

What effects are those?

Whatever the mind can imagine?

I speak from my expertise in the field -- effects in elderly and demented subjects.

I would have provided these links in an earlier post, but I don't like the oversized fonts. I want to lower them, but am too busy with my schoolwork to play around with this stuff:

Aniracetam: http://nootropics.ip...php?showtopic=3

Oxiracetam: http://nootropics.ip...hp?showtopic=55

Pramiracetam: http://nootropics.ip...hp?showtopic=62

At this point in time, ONLY qhi and nubrain carry Pramiracetam. That's it.

Peace out.

[xanadu]

What's wrong with piracetam? It has been researched since the 60's and is safe and effective.

[Shepard]

I speak from my expertise in the field -- effects in elderly and demented subjects.

I was just messing with you. I thought you might have changed your mind about the 'racetams in people with normal cognitive function.

[doug123]

safe and effective.

At what exactly?

[Shepard]

Wait....was "expertise in the field" a LM joke?

I guess it depends what you meant by "expertise".

[doug123]

Wait....was "expertise in the field" a LM joke?

I guess it depends what you meant by "expertise".

Let's not dwell in the past.

[Shepard]

It could have been quite funny.

[doug123]

Relentless Improvement now has Pramiracetam in stock...

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Edited by nootropikamil, 05 October 2006 - 07:57 AM.

[fight4life]

Pramiracetam bulk powder - Anybody know of a source?

I've been digging and digging and can only find caps which are very expensive. If so, please post or PM me.

We all need to bug the heck outta these noot companies to get out pramiracetam powder - matter of fact, we should just all refuse to buy pram in cap form until it gets in bulk form. That price is jacked.

Otherwise, centrophenoxine, alpha cpc, and others are easy to find bulk powders.

Anything on the pramiracetam powder, please update me or let me know.

Thanks board.

(edited by Matthias: threads 16182 & 6841 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 04:15 PM.

[fight4life]

relentlessimprovement.com seemes to be the best price, even though they are capped. You get 40 caps @ 600mg for about 70$ but uniquenutrition charges 70$ for 20 caps at 600mg.

Price war!

[agrove]

I have actually found an excellent source for 25KG drums of Pramiracetam and am planning on purchasing either a drum of pramiracetam or oxiracetam and trying to see if I can get the market for one of these two moving as fluidly as the piracetam market.

If people interested in buying some of this would answer the following question it would help. Given that my partner will be investing a lot upfront so that we can buy multiple drums and get a more competitive price. Which of the following would be most marketable?

Oxiracetam @
$30 - 50 Grams
$50 - 100 Grams
$225 - Half Kilo (500 Grams)

Pramiracetam @
$30 - 25 Grams
$50 - 50 Grams
$200 - Quarter Kilo (250 Grams)

Once I get some feedback I'm going to place the order for one of the two and will have it by mid-July. I will likely be selling it on Ebay as my business has already built a sufficient reputation - eventually we're hoping to open up a site specializing in order enormous quantities of a select group of nootropics to really bring the prices down on the select group of products we will be carrying.

Thanks for any and all feedback.
agrove

[FunkOdyssey]

50 grams for $50 would be a great deal for pramiracetam. Pete's $66 bottle provides the best value currently and contains only 24 grams. You'll need COA's to really win people over though.

[agrove]

The company from China where I will be getting it from produces it themselves, has been in the business for over 8 years and appears to have a good reputation.

They have already sent me copies of the COAs which are performed in house by the company. Would I need a 3rd party lab to issue a COA as well? Again, I appreciate the advice, I'm new to selling these type products but am a big believer in the free market and when I use a new product (like oxi) and have such great results with it; then find a good source and think I can drive the price down on it and make a few bucks in the process - I can't resist getting involved! I could e-mail you a copy of the COA if that would help.

[FunkOdyssey]

They have already sent me copies of the COAs which are performed in house by the company. Would I need a 3rd party lab to issue a COA as well?

You'll need 3rd party COA's to really impress people. You could get by without it, and some bulk powder / nootropic vendors have managed to, but if you can match or beat prices on competing products while performing better testing, you'll enjoy much more success.

Currently, 3rd party tested products are rare and their prices are artificially inflated. The circumstances are ripe for someone new to come in, do the same testing and undercut the established players. Best of luck to you. [thumb]

[rohan]

Economical Pram ? (pramiracetam)

Are there any reasonably economical sources of pramiracetam that will ship to Canada?

Bulk powder is ok if it saves some cash. I am hoping to find at least 2 month's worth, without departing with any more than $100.

(edited by Matthias: threads 6841 & 18096 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 04:10 PM.