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[rohan]

Pramiracetem - Where to find? Custom synth safe?

I've had absolutely no luck finding a source for Pramiracetem.

1) Any thoughts?

2) Is it safe / reliable to get a custom synthesis (china, etc) ?

On tradekey.com I was able to find a quote of 1kg for $850 or 2kg for $1250.

It's pricey of course, but is it safe? Relatively speaking, I'd rather spend $850 for 1kg, than $80 for a 2 week supply of capsules, 26 times a year.

(edited by Matthias: threads 6841 & 18342 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 04:40 PM.

[hardom]

Buy it from L.I.F.E. Research in the US.

[rohan]

An update: one of the custom synth companies has quoted 25kg for USD $450... ?!?

[rohan]

LIFE Research is REALLY expensive. $80 for 30grams - dosage is around 1gram per day, is it not?

[hardom]

Don't know the cost. But at least it's US.

[rohan]

My Pram was phenominal. After having tried Pir and Ani, I was a little disappointed with (in my opinion) only marginally significant results from nootropics. Pram changed my view entirely. I conducted a double blind (admittedly unscientific) test on myself (with the help of a friend) to eliminate placebo issues. Fantastic substance.

Now I can't find any more available for purchase online. I can try a custom synth at $1,000 for a kilo or $1,300 for 2kg. I'm hesitant though - any suggestions?


(edited by Matthias: threads 19067 & 6841 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 03:52 PM.

[coq10]

I will never buy from these so called business people again. They never sent me my hydergine and selegine. My order apprently shipped out Oct. 3rd and never made it to my door step. I emailed them several times. They responded telling me that the product shipped and should be here any day. They told me that if it did not come that I would have to take it up with the post office. WTF? Why would I the customer have to take this up with the post office? Ship me my product I paid for or give me a refund. I would never shop from them they have terrible customer service, and I wouldnt advise anyone to buy from **********. THat is dont buy from this website www.************.net.

Peace

My Pram was phenominal. After having tried Pir and Ani, I was a little disappointed with (in my opinion) only marginally significant results from nootropics. Pram changed my view entirely. I conducted a double blind (admittedly unscientific) test on myself (with the help of a friend) to eliminate placebo issues. Fantastic substance.

Now I can't find any more available for purchase online. I can try a custom synth at $1,000 for a kilo or $1,300 for 2kg. I'm hesitant though - any suggestions?

I just bought some pretty cheap on www.*************.com

[nancy_axel]

Hey Guys,
I've located a dealer who sells pramiracetam for $1.50 per gram. If you are interested, there is a 99% Quality COA included. I will have my batch (our batches are made together) personally tested at an independent US lab. Relentless has been stalling since May and they still don't have the compound, claiming they will 'get it next month' over and over again for the past few months. In any case, you save 40% through this deal off of relentless and ~80% off of the next cheapest supplier.

This is just a preliminary message to let you guys know that I will be going forward with the deal. Over the next week, I need your input into some 1 paragraph contract we will transmit over PayPal so all is legit and everyone is protected. If you are interested, PM me.

Here are the rules:
1) No order less than 100 grams will be considered (Its not worth the hassle). I need at minimum a 1 kg order to get the deal.
2) You will pay me via PayPal the day before they need payment.
a) You will write a brief statement about what you are paying for (in essence, a blurb saying 'Pramiracetam' and the amount)
b) Once we receive the pramiracetam to our respective homes and I independently verify (2nd verification) their COA, then I will release the escrow funds to the company so we don't get stuck with a poor product (or ripped off).
3) The pram will be sent to each of our homes sealed.


Details:
Pramiracetam
Quality:99%
Price term:USD $1500/kg 1kg prices
USD 1300/kg 10kg prices
Payment terms:Escrow
COA: Attached by email tomorrow
Package:aluminium foil bag
Quality:USP 26 ,99%
Delivery Date: Prompt delivery

Please do not respond to this post, PM me.

(edited by Matthias: threads 6841 & 23925 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 04:46 PM.

[steelsky]

Where to buy Pramiracetam?, (couldn't find it anywhere)

...as topic.

(edited by Matthias: threads 6841 & 26070 merged)

Edited by Matthias, 06 January 2009 - 04:43 PM.

[Wedrifid]

Traitor to the modafinil fold!

[steelsky]

Traitor to the modafinil fold!

Just expanding my options

[Pike]

What? so, first you say it's $1.2k for 2kilos, making it $600 a ki...
then, in bulk, it ranges from $735 to $882 a ki...
and then this deal of $100 a ki, as long as it's to... Canana?

forgive the confusion...

[drive_yugo]

I will never buy from these so called business people again. They never sent me my hydergine and selegine. My order apprently shipped out Oct. 3rd and never made it to my door step. I emailed them several times. They responded telling me that the product shipped and should be here any day. They told me that if it did not come that I would have to take it up with the post office. WTF? Why would I the customer have to take this up with the post office? Ship me my product I paid for or give me a refund. I would never shop from them they have terrible customer service, and I wouldnt advise anyone to buy from **********. THat is dont buy from this website www.************.net.

Peace

My Pram was phenominal. After having tried Pir and Ani, I was a little disappointed with (in my opinion) only marginally significant results from nootropics. Pram changed my view entirely. I conducted a double blind (admittedly unscientific) test on myself (with the help of a friend) to eliminate placebo issues. Fantastic substance.

Now I can't find any more available for purchase online. I can try a custom synth at $1,000 for a kilo or $1,300 for 2kg. I'm hesitant though - any suggestions?

I just bought some pretty cheap on www.*************.com

Nancy, Could you give an update on how this turned out?

[drive_yugo]

Hey Guys,
I've located a dealer who sells pramiracetam for $1.50 per gram. If you are interested, there is a 99% Quality COA included. I will have my batch (our batches are made together) personally tested at an independent US lab. Relentless has been stalling since May and they still don't have the compound, claiming they will 'get it next month' over and over again for the past few months. In any case, you save 40% through this deal off of relentless and ~80% off of the next cheapest supplier.

This is just a preliminary message to let you guys know that I will be going forward with the deal. Over the next week, I need your input into some 1 paragraph contract we will transmit over PayPal so all is legit and everyone is protected. If you are interested, PM me.

Here are the rules:
1) No order less than 100 grams will be considered (Its not worth the hassle). I need at minimum a 1 kg order to get the deal.
2) You will pay me via PayPal the day before they need payment.
a) You will write a brief statement about what you are paying for (in essence, a blurb saying 'Pramiracetam' and the amount)
b) Once we receive the pramiracetam to our respective homes and I independently verify (2nd verification) their COA, then I will release the escrow funds to the company so we don't get stuck with a poor product (or ripped off).
3) The pram will be sent to each of our homes sealed.


Details:
Pramiracetam
Quality:99%
Price term:USD $1500/kg 1kg prices
USD 1300/kg 10kg prices
Payment terms:Escrow
COA: Attached by email tomorrow
Package:aluminium foil bag
Quality:USP 26 ,99%
Delivery Date: Prompt delivery

Please do not respond to this post, PM me.

(edited by Matthias: threads 6841 & 23925 merged)

Nancy, could you give an update on how this turned out?

[I've accidentally replied to the wrong post earlier.]

[Pike]

customer caming from France for two days and find so many people talking about Pramiracetam.

http://www.imminst.o...o...ic=26773=

Analysis

Specification

Result

Pramiracetam (HPLC)

≥98.5%

99.32%

Water

≤1％

0.5%

Heavy Metals

≤10.0ppm

Conform

Total plate count

＜1000cfu/g

200cfu/g

Yeast and mold

＜100 cfu/g

10cfu/g

E. coli

Negative

Negative

Salmonella

Negative

Negative

Conclusion

Meets in-house specification.

Packing and Storage

Packing

Pack in paper-drums and two plastic-bags inside.

Storage

Store in a well-closed place with constant low temperature and no direct sun light

Shelf life

2 years when properly stored.

About the price, generally speaking the price of bulk drug is arround USD883/KG
China source
We are the only one manufacture in China.

Retail price: USD1470/kg
Whole sell price: USD883~USD735/kg
Shipment: 2 working days later
Quantity: 220kg per month(before June)

morris
morris@somepharm.com

Forgive my skepticism, but it would be in my opinion that you should provide something a lot more credible than a copy&pasted certificate of analysis and then just tell us you're the only Prami manufacturer. Thus far, you've changed the price of your pramiracetam about 3 or 4 times, (i believe a few of them within the same post) and the link you posted about "so many people talking about pramiracetam" is just a thread that you created.

I'll call it: bullshit. Please prove me wrong.

Edited by maxwatt, 15 January 2009 - 03:45 AM.

[Morris Luo]

About the price, generally speaking the price of bulk drug is arround USD883/KG
China source
We are the only one manufacture in China.

Retail price: USD1470/kg
Whole sell price: USD883~USD735/kg
Shipment: 2 working days later
Quantity: 220kg per month(before June)

morris@dndpharm.com

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[Morris Luo]

customer caming from France for two days and find so many people talking about Pramiracetam.

http://www.imminst.o...o...ic=26773=

Analysis

Specification

Result

Pramiracetam (HPLC)

≥98.5%

99.32%

Water

≤1％

0.5%

Heavy Metals

≤10.0ppm

Conform

Total plate count

＜1000cfu/g

200cfu/g

Yeast and mold

＜100 cfu/g

10cfu/g

E. coli

Negative

Negative

Salmonella

Negative

Negative

Conclusion

Meets in-house specification.

Packing and Storage

Packing

Pack in paper-drums and two plastic-bags inside.

Storage

Store in a well-closed place with constant low temperature and no direct sun light

Shelf life

2 years when properly stored.

About the price, generally speaking the price of bulk drug is arround USD883/KG
China source
We are the only one manufacture in China.

Retail price: USD1470/kg
Whole sell price: USD883~USD735/kg
Shipment: 2 working days later
Quantity: 220kg per month(before June)

morris
morris@somepharm.com

Forgive my skepticism, but it would be in my opinion that you should provide something a lot more credible than a copy&pasted certificate of analysis and then just tell us you're the only Prami manufacturer. Thus far, you've changed the price of your pramiracetam about 3 or 4 times, (i believe a few of them within the same post) and the link you posted about "so many people talking about pramiracetam" is just a thread that you created.

I'll call it: bullshit. Please prove me wrong.

[Morris Luo]

customer caming from France for two days and find so many people talking about Pramiracetam.

http://www.imminst.o...o...ic=26773=

Analysis

Specification

Result

Pramiracetam (HPLC)

≥98.5%

99.32%

Water

≤1％

0.5%

Heavy Metals

≤10.0ppm

Conform

Total plate count

＜1000cfu/g

200cfu/g

Yeast and mold

＜100 cfu/g

10cfu/g

E. coli

Negative

Negative

Salmonella

Negative

Negative

Conclusion

Meets in-house specification.

Packing and Storage

Packing

Pack in paper-drums and two plastic-bags inside.

Storage

Store in a well-closed place with constant low temperature and no direct sun light

Shelf life

2 years when properly stored.

About the price, generally speaking the price of bulk drug is arround USD883/KG
China source
We are the only one manufacture in China.

Retail price: USD1470/kg
Whole sell price: USD883~USD735/kg
Shipment: 2 working days later
Quantity: 220kg per month(before June)

morris
morris@dndpharm.com

Forgive my skepticism, but it would be in my opinion that you should provide something a lot more credible than a copy&pasted certificate of analysis and then just tell us you're the only Prami manufacturer. Thus far, you've changed the price of your pramiracetam about 3 or 4 times, (i believe a few of them within the same post) and the link you posted about "so many people talking about pramiracetam" is just a thread that you created.

I'll call it: bullshit. Please prove me wrong.

morris@dndpharm.com
morris.luo@gmail.com

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[NootropicEU]

Anybody have a link for this?

I can get Pramistar (Berlin Chemie) 600 mg x 20 tablets for 30 eur. 25 eur for purchases more than 5 packages. It gets shipped from UK.

[mrak1979]

I'm very interested in cerebral health's bulk pram but how trustworthy are they and how pure is their product? Anyone chime in?

thanks

[mrak1979]

They sent me a COA for pram but it's stamped in Chinese and the company heading at the top is cut-off (deliberate?). Can I trust this? Anyone know how to judge COA's for pram?

[mrak1979]

wuts the best way to take it to mask it's taste? in juice?

[msied]

I just tried taking some of the power sub lingual. In the struggle to undo it and just swallow, I got some stuck in my nasal cavity. God damnit...

Try this at your own risk.