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[nbourbaki]

I have had a private message from someone who is taking 4 grams a day and has had incredible results. They don't want to come forward at this time but I think that this stuff certainly looks like it works exceptionally well at high dose but we won't know individually until we have trialed it (maybe at a higher dose for some of us) for a few weeks at least.

I'm not sure if we will be able to organise something like this again so it will be about waiting for the bulk powder group buy after that. I am kinda wary about pushing too hard (I am not making any money out of this btw just in case anyone is wondering) esp since we already have enough participants but it would be a shame to miss out.

PWAIN
I respect the privacy of the individual using 4 grams daily. If possible, could you inquire as to:
Are they using the Niagen product?
How long have they been using NR?
Did they make any other changes to their supplement regimen or diet at the time of NR commencement?
How are they dosing? Once or multiple times daily? With or with out food? Sublingual?
What is their body weight?
What is their exercise history? Experienced athlete with years of training? Neophyte?
Any specifics on their, "incredible results?"

Regarding a future group Niagen buy, I'd think, if all goes well, HPN would be elated to unload 100+ bottles at a time - even at a 30% discount. They do offer team discounts, which I'd guess are similar to our group pricing.

1) I have only used the Niagen product purchased from the same supplier on Amazon

2) I'm on my 6th week. Week #1 was only at .75 grams per day. Week #2 was at 1.5-2 grams per day. Week #3 was back to .75 due to my stock running low. Week #4 was at 4 grams per day. Week #5 was at 4 grams per day and week #6 4 grams per day.

3) After the first week of supplementation, without any changes in diet, exercise or other sups, I lost 2 pounds. I've had a lot of trouble losing weight, dieting and exercised for weeks without losing more than a pound. With Niagen I was losing weight, so I went on a diet. From the start of supplementing Niagen to last Sunday, I've lost 13 pounds.

4) I'm taking 1 gram of Niagen 4 times a day. I fast until my evening meal and my last dose of the day is at 5pm, which is 1 1/2 hours before I eat my only meal of the day.

5) Based on my last weigh in on Sunday I weighed 186 pounds. I started Niagen at 199.4.

6) No consistency before Niagen of exercise. I was easily winded. After starting Niagen, I'm now hitting the treadmill every evening and it's getting harder and harder to hit my max heart rate. I'm no longer winded.

7) I've had prostatitis for the last 15 years. It's been getting progressively worse. When I hit 2 grams per day of Niagen, my prostatitis was significantly better. I've been keeping a journal since beginning Niagen, and I keep track of how many times I urinate and what time of day. When I hit 4 grams a day of Niagen I have no urgency no tenderness, no symptoms. My trips to the bathroom has decreased significantly. No urgency at all. My prostate feels like it did when I was in my 40's.

Just for the positive effect Niagen has had on my prostate, I don't want to be without it. The weight loss and the ability to exercise has improved my quality of life. When I was much younger I pumped out body heat like a mini furnace. As I've gotten older (I'll be 60 in September) my mini furnace was no longer working. With Niagen, I feel the mini furnace again. Maybe not a strong as it was, but it's something I haven't experienced at all for the last 20 years.

[kenj]

1) I have only used the Niagen product purchased from the same supplier on Amazon

2) I'm on my 6th week. Week #1 was only at .75 grams per day. Week #2 was at 1.5-2 grams per day. Week #3 was back to .75 due to my stock running low. Week #4 was at 4 grams per day. Week #5 was at 4 grams per day and week #6 4 grams per day.

3) After the first week of supplementation, without any changes in diet, exercise or other sups, I lost 2 pounds. I've had a lot of trouble losing weight, dieting and exercised for weeks without losing more than a pound. With Niagen I was losing weight, so I went on a diet. From the start of supplementing Niagen to last Sunday, I've lost 13 pounds.

4) I'm taking 1 gram of Niagen 4 times a day. I fast until my evening meal and my last dose of the day is at 5pm, which is 1 1/2 hours before I eat my only meal of the day.

5) Based on my last weigh in on Sunday I weighed 186 pounds. I started Niagen at 199.4.

6) No consistency before Niagen of exercise. I was easily winded. After starting Niagen, I'm now hitting the treadmill every evening and it's getting harder and harder to hit my max heart rate. I'm no longer winded.

7) I've had prostatitis for the last 15 years. It's been getting progressively worse. When I hit 2 grams per day of Niagen, my prostatitis was significantly better. I've been keeping a journal since beginning Niagen, and I keep track of how many times I urinate and what time of day. When I hit 4 grams a day of Niagen I have no urgency no tenderness, no symptoms. My trips to the bathroom has decreased significantly. No urgency at all. My prostate feels like it did when I was in my 40's.

Just for the positive effect Niagen has had on my prostate, I don't want to be without it. The weight loss and the ability to exercise has improved my quality of life. When I was much younger I pumped out body heat like a mini furnace. As I've gotten older (I'll be 60 in September) my mini furnace was no longer working. With Niagen, I feel the mini furnace again. Maybe not a strong as it was, but it's something I haven't experienced at all for the last 20 years.

That's quite the anecdote, especially coming from a seasoned supplement user like 'nbourbaki'!
If I remember correctly from reading the board, and life extensionist boards you've been taking supplements for many years?

Edited by kenj, 01 April 2014 - 11:50 AM.

[nbourbaki]

I've been taking supplements for twenty-five years. There are only a few sups I won't go without. I've been taking Cranberry for all of that time. My prostate would get inflamed from the prostatitis and I would get a bladder infection. Unlike all the urologist I've been treated by, Cranberry was very effective at stopping that process. I travel for work every week, many times I'll cross multiple timezones. I had a great deal of problems sleeping in a strange hotel in a different timezone. I've been taking Melatonin for almost as long as the cranberry. After being tested with very low D-3 levels, 5 years ago, I started taking D-3. It took me a year of experimenting to get my seasonal dose correct to hit an optimal level. I've tried many of the flavor of the week sups. If they didn't help I stopped taking them. Niagen or NR looks to be one of the keepers.

I should add that I'm also taking both SAM-e and TMG to make sure I have the methyl donors so I avoid a Niacin crash.

When I roll off my current engagement, I'll get a full blood test.

Edited by nbourbaki, 01 April 2014 - 12:22 PM.

[kenj]

I've been taking supplements for twenty-five years. There are only a few sups I won't go without. I've been taking Cranberry for all of that time. My prostate would get inflamed from the prostatitis and I would get a bladder infection. Unlike all the urologist I've been treated by, Cranberry was very effective at stopping that process. I travel for work every week, many times I'll cross multiple timezones. I had a great deal of problems sleeping in a strange hotel in a different timezone. I've been taking Melatonin for almost as long as the cranberry. After being tested with very low D-3 levels, 5 years ago, I started taking D-3. It took me a year of experimenting to get my seasonal dose correct to hit an optimal level. I've tried many of the flavor of the week sups. If they didn't help I stopped taking them. Niagen or NR looks to be one of the keepers.

I should add that I'm also taking both SAM-e and TMG to make sure I have the methyl donors so I avoid a Niacin crash.

When I roll off my current engagement, I'll get a full blood test.

Thanks for your perspective. Off topic: I remember some of your posts from early 2000ish, because you are (AFAIK) one of the few, like myself, that would have allergic reactions to gram doses of carnosine.
(I do fine long-term with 100-200mg doses, BTW)

[aribadabar]

BobSeitz and PWAIN,

Thank you for the helpful pointers.
I am still interested in 6 bottles.
I apologize if I caused any trouble.

To the person who downvoted me - I believe extra caution and a possible sample (on my dime) is well warranted given the compound is so expensive and untested in humans.

[BobSeitz]

Sorry, Mikey and Aribadabar! I was obviously wrong about our needing six months at 3-4 grams a day to experience the effects of NR. (But what wonderful news!)

PWAIN,
if I may, I'd like to up my order of NR from 6 bottles to 12 bottles. It sounds as though some of us need to try a high dosage of NR to confirm nbourbaki's subjective effects.

I took a basic blood chemistry test in December. It's one notable feature was my blood lipid profile. Prior to 2003, I only have a couple of readings for my HDL levels. They were in the 50's (mg./dl.). After I went on calorie restriction in 2003 and began running, my HDL levels went into the 70's and low 80's. Then in December, my HDL figure of merit went up to 94, with an LDL level of 88 and a total cholesterol value of 193. My triglycerides were 55. (Of course, this pre-dated my taking NR and MitoQ.)

I'm getting ready to go in for an update. Maybe I should try high-dose NR first.

[BobSeitz]

Sorry, Mikey and Aribadabar! I was obviously wrong about our needing six months at 3-4 grams a day to experience the effects of NR. (But what wonderful news!)

PWAIN,
if I may, I'd like to up my order of NR from 6 bottles to 12 bottles. It sounds as though some of us need to try a high dosage of NR to confirm nbourbaki's subjective effects.

I took a basic blood chemistry test in December. It's one notable feature was my blood lipid profile. Prior to 2003, I only have a couple of readings for my HDL levels. They were in the 50's (mg./dl.). After I went on calorie restriction in 2003 and began running, my HDL levels went into the 70's and low 80's. Then in December, my HDL figure of merit went up to 94, with an LDL level of 88 and a total cholesterol value of 193. My triglycerides were 55. (Of course, this pre-dated my taking NR and MitoQ.)

I'm getting ready to go in for an update. Maybe I should try high-dose NR first.

Whoops!

[Ehvam]

My only worry is if this will fit into my regimen, or if I will have to change anything.. at the moment I take
Carnosine
alcar/ala
PQQ
coQ10
fish oil
lions mane
IP6.. in the a.m only on an empty stomach
spirulina
b vits
sam-e a few times a week
theanine

anybody forsee any issues here?

I should also add I rarely take anything every day religiously, about 5 days a week.. I also take zinc/magnesium/boron on occasion. maybe three days out of the week sometimes more.

Some of these I ahve been taking a while, while some like the ip6 I just added having read about iron accumulation which I found convincing, and PQQ/ carnosine which I added last week. Its a bit early to really tell but so far I'm liking the effect, except for a little issue sleeping lately which may, or may not, having anything to do with the added pqq/carnosine/ip6. Doubt it,

[PWAIN]

So far we have:

PWAIN x 2 batches
nbourbaki x 2 batches
BobSeitz
Kevnzworld x 2 batches
tintinet
APBT
Hebbeh x 2 batches
Iporuru
Adaptogen
stephen_b
zen
Ehvam
(split) ?????Joeyo
aarfai
mpe x 2 batches
kenj
gwgaston
aribadabar
koala_muncher
MarcD
mikey
Cabbage

[tintinet]

Are we locked in to a specific amount, or can I order 2 batches if I feel like it?

Thanks!

[PWAIN]

Could someone who is a member please contact me, I need to send out the code to the rest of the participants but as a non member I am limited to 2 pms a day. (I've managed to send to the first 12 people on the list - max 6 recipients per pm). I just need you to send out the code to the remaining participants.

[PWAIN]

Are we locked in to a specific amount, or can I order 2 batches if I feel like it?

Thanks!

As I understand it, you can buy as many batches of 6 bottles as you like. There is not a set maximum number of bottles available. May even be able to order 8 or 10 bottles, will need to try on the day I guess. My understanding is the 6 bottle minimum it to make it worth while processing and posting.

[stephen_b]

What is the address of the site where the order will be placed?

[Breestyle]

I am in for 6 bottles... thanks!

[nbourbaki]

What is the address of the site where the order will be placed?

I believe the following link is the correct location:

http://hpnsupplements.com

I've pre-registered so as soon as the coupon is active I'll be able to place an order.

[Methos000]

is it too late to join? I'm down for 6.

Edited by Methos000, 02 April 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[stephen_b]

Thanks nbourbaki. I was able to put my order in a few minutes ago.

[aribadabar]

What is the address of the site where the order will be placed?

I believe the following link is the correct location:

http://hpnsupplements.com

I've pre-registered so as soon as the coupon is active I'll be able to place an order.

That is the correct website and the special coupon code for this group buy is now live.
One can pick any number (over 6) of bottles and the 30% off applies to each.

Edited by aribadabar, 02 April 2014 - 08:12 PM.

[nbourbaki]

Thanks everyone. The coupon is indeed live and I've place my order.

Many thanks to Chris for pulling this together. I saved over $200 for a months supply

Edited by nbourbaki, 02 April 2014 - 09:30 PM.

[Ehvam]

Awesome...
And yes, a round of applause to Chris for putting it all together.

[satsumass]

hi. i'm down for six too! is it too late? how would i get the code?

Edited by satsumass, 03 April 2014 - 12:53 AM.

[aribadabar]

how would i get the code?

You need to contact the organizer - PWAIN.

[PWAIN]

hi. i'm down for six too! is it too late? how would i get the code?

Just send me a pm and I will reply with the code. This applies to anyone else that wants to join - just send me a pm and I will reply asap. It is not too late until the end of Sunday 6th April.

[MarcD]

I've orderet 6 more bottles and I have still to bottles from my last order here. I was taking 250mg for the first few weeks and went up to 375mg one or two weeks ago. Yesterday I took 500mg and I'll try today 750mg. What do you think is the dosage to go for a 100kg male? I don't feel any different.

[koala_muncher]

well organised, placed my order

Edited by koala_muncher, 03 April 2014 - 10:12 AM.

[mpe]

Ordered mine today,


Thanks

Mike

[nbourbaki]

Just a heads up. This morning I logged back into the site and was checking the status of my order and I noticed that I was signed up for a subscription for the Niagen. I cancelled the subscription. I didn't remember seeing an option when I placed my order for Niagen, but somehow it showed up up this morning. You may want to check to see if you have the subscription turned on.

[Hebbeh]

Just a heads up. This morning I logged back into the site and was checking the status of my order and I noticed that I was signed up for a subscription for the Niagen. I cancelled the subscription. I didn't remember seeing an option when I placed my order for Niagen, but somehow it showed up up this morning. You may want to check to see if you have the subscription turned on.

+1

[PWAIN]

I just checked mine and I have a subscription too. I have cancelled it no problem but I think everyone here needs to check their order afterwards and cancel the subscription if it is there and they don't want it.
Thanks for that nbourbaki

[nbourbaki]

Just received my shipping notice! I was a little worried that I would run out of stock, but it looks like I'll be good to go.