It's about time somebody talked about this. The issue of authenticity (ID & assay) and purity (proof of absence of harmful or potentially harmful contaminants) is very serious. There are no easy answers.
What would be nice is if this forum could maintain a list of testing labs and what kind of tests they can perform.
Then a list of substances, by vendor, and all documentation supporting them, including 3rd party tests, lab, method etc.
Ugh. No wonder people "guess" that things are real and then proceed to consume them. But I'm left wondering when people do this, considering these are "nootropics," are they really making people smarter?
I'm in the position where I've procured quite a few supplements and nootropics, and I'm unable to bring myself to consume them because I don't trust anything other than scientific evidence that they are real. But I lack the energy/time to deal with that, despite that I am a chemist by training.
I am not trying to scare people away, I have probably consumed stuff from these companies in China for 6 or 7 years.
I am just worried people think these things are actually tested in a real third party lab, you know they might be these people might actually be chemist students with access to equipment, or scientists
with connections - but I wouldn't presume that any of it is 100% the stuff and people should not trust a piece of paper and megadose or not be ready if things go wrong, or take a small dose first.
The labs I contacted that could do this were all quite pricey, even for something USP like memantine. For stuff they do not know
about they have to construct a valid test from scratch, and that costs way more money, you also have to factor all the equipment they use to test these things.
Of course manufacturers have skilled synthetic organic chemists working for them, so they will have enough knowledge to know how to test their own product and match it to specifications.
Anyways I digress, onto Fasoracetam day 1 (about to go to bed), take note this is all very subjective at the moment, more testing is required but since I was so surprised. I decided to write my experience:
So its been a while since i've taken the 100mg orally, Fasoracetam definitely DOESN'T just work on cAMP, it definitely has some mechanism that hasn't been discovered yet.
After a while of dosing I had a weird allergy attack, a mild one, I have a wacky immune system so it happens. I don't know if its because of the flush or whatever, it triggered a mild
skin rash type of thing, i'm used to this kind of thing, and its probably only me who is going to get this side effect, unfortunately its definitely not something I want happening constantly.
I am definitely experiencing the hyperpigmentation thing, its doing something to the immune system, not in a good way,
^ So thats strange, it definitely has some kind of action on something else that has nothing to do with cAMP, or NDMA as I am well experienced with those chemicals and they have
never caused anything like that.
I thought it was going to go into the bin - when I realized - the whole day I had been just ticking one task after another task, its like I have this big list in my head that I am fine with ticking off. It maybe
placebo, bear in mind I am also on Memantine and Buproporion, but it definitely feels like its fasoracetam. My memory is sharper than usual, not sharper, it just feels less dreamy and more clean, in fact my memory
hasn't improved, its just the memory of stuff i need to do today or have done seems alot clearer (which makes sense, following the other longecity members experience of reliving the same memories or not). I can just
remember my day much better than usual.
To Note though, Memantine and Bupropion by themselves are quite effective stimulants and brain enhancing, and they probably contribute to the motivation too.
How do I put it ? Its nothing like anything ive taken before, its nothing like dopamine releasers. It's like I am patient and I want to work, and I am totally fine with doing one task after another task, in fact there is this constant
itch that I should be doing something. Its like that amphetamine cleaning syndrome, minus the speedy effects. So anyways i've been to the coffee shop to do work, and then I went to the super market, and went home to do cleaning, each place I went to I felt perfectly FINE to do whatever work needs to be done. It's not motivation, because motivation is emotionally driven - I don't feel emotional driven.
I don't know how to explain. It's like some kind of weird layer is REMOVED, which is not a good thing. Lets take the orgasm thing for example, Fasoracetam may work by disabling certain parts of the brain that controls emotions, the fact is emotions get in the way of work. When you are sensitive and emotional, even washing up feels shitty because its just the emotion of the idea. I think Fasoracetam does some weird action and essentially hijacks the brain in some way and basically eliminates avoidance, and probably eliminates a bunch of other things as well..
As with everything though, I expect tolerance to develop though, ironically I don't need this kind of motivation daily. Maybe once a week. I wish it didn't affect my eczema. Only time will tell if it works with a lower dose, or works the second time.
It's just hard to explain. I just feel like working. I have never felt like that ever in my life, nor on any other drug. It's doing something way beyond whats being proposed, perhaps dangerously. Also its definitely more like a drug than a nootropic.
Edited by Major Legend, 08 July 2015 - 07:19 AM.
