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[adamh]

I've been doing the mk 677 and its the real deal. I'm an older guy and it works for me. I have been scared to use hgh because I've heard stories about it promoting cancer and other problems. A secretalogue will tend to use the body's natural mechanisms rather than flood it with hormone. I also like the fact its oral and avoids sticking yourself with needles every day.

 

I'm on 25 mg per day taken at night. It has a definite effect. I've noticed a greater sense of physical well being, firmer muscles, better sleep, faster hair, nails, and beard growth. Some tendonitis I had for well over a year, maybe a couple years has gradually gotten better. In the first couple months I lost some weight, not sure if thats due to the mk 677 or not. Some of it came back and may have been from muscle growth. Nothing huge or dramatic but several nice little things making it worth it.

 

I paid $84, I think it was last time including shipping for 60 ml with 50mg per ml. I use a graduated pipette to measure it out. Tastes bad, take it with something, but not horrible or nasty like some things I've tried. I took a month off and went back on it. Its worth it if you can afford it. I just hope there are no long term side effects. Its been around for a good while and has been tested many times which does not guarantee anything.

[Skunkdaddy]

What was your source? I paid ~$125 ship included for 2g dry from tht.co
Also, what is a good brand/site for alphaGPC?

Great thread,
Mike

[Rocket]

I'm experimenting with my lab rat using IGF1 LR3 pre-exercise.  To date he reports good pumps from resistance training. 

[adamh]

What was your source? I paid ~$125 ship included for 2g dry from tht.co
Also, what is a good brand/site for alphaGPC?

Great thread,
Mike

 

I used ceretropics and southern sarms once each. 2gm dry sounds like a bargain, but what solvent did you use? I have no idea about a-gpc

[Juicy]

I am curious where everyone here is ordering their peptides from? I know some are ordering from China due to a lower price-point but has anyone found anything very cheap?

 

 

[Skunkdaddy]

I am curious where everyone here is ordering their peptides from? I know some are ordering from China due to a lower price-point but has anyone found anything very cheap?

[Skunkdaddy]

Ha, sorry for above.

I just tried THT.co and their website is down. Got my order in and received over 4 weeks ago, ah well.

I have some leftover nootropics and other effective supplements that are just locked away, no longer needed in current cycle. Is there anyone on here in Houston or College Station with their own stash that would be willing to trade around? I got a great brand jar of Colostrum but I have access to raw kefir now so it's unneeded.

I primarily want alpha-GPC in bulk as well as a good tongkat Ali product.

Keep it righteous,
Mike

[Skunkdaddy]

Does anyone here order 10+ peptides at a time in order to get wholesale discount? I am in the Houston area and would love to find some sort of co-op setup or just buy off of anybody willing. I need CJC-1295 w/o DAC currently, possibly Ipamorelin or LGD-4033.
Thanks,
Michael

[Rocket]

Time to rekindle this thread.

 

I am expecting to receive 6 weeks worth of CJC1295 w/DAC.  I had a good experience with LGD, so with what I have read about the potency of this peptide, I am hopeful this will blow that away.

[LaViidaLocaa]

Is there much known of MK-677 and LGD-4033 in the long-term? Side effects, that is, as I'm a bit worried about raising IGF-1 and thus raising the risk of malignancies?

[Rocket]

Time to rekindle this thread.

 

I am expecting to receive 6 weeks worth of CJC1295 w/DAC.  I had a good experience with LGD, so with what I have read about the potency of this peptide, I am hopeful this will blow that away.

 

About 2.5 weeks in at 4mg/week.  Nearly every time my lab is injected, he reports a big head rush.  Maybe a little bit of body recomp starting to happen.  I'm also adding in some hefty DHEA to maintain insulin sensitivity.  I recently read about someone using this combination to rejuvenate their thymus. 

[Rocket]

 

Time to rekindle this thread.

 

I am expecting to receive 6 weeks worth of CJC1295 w/DAC.  I had a good experience with LGD, so with what I have read about the potency of this peptide, I am hopeful this will blow that away.

 

About 2.5 weeks in at 4mg/week.  Nearly every time my lab is injected, he reports a big head rush.  Maybe a little bit of body recomp starting to happen.  I'm also adding in some hefty DHEA to maintain insulin sensitivity.  I recently read about someone using this combination to rejuvenate their thymus. 

 

 

Several weeks into this run.  Feel good.  Still get head rush every time.  Could be some body recomp going on.  Going to stay on this and DHEA for the foreseeable future. Had some bad shoulder pain that was holding me back in the gym.... that's all but completely gone. 

[Rocket]

 

 

Time to rekindle this thread.

 

I am expecting to receive 6 weeks worth of CJC1295 w/DAC.  I had a good experience with LGD, so with what I have read about the potency of this peptide, I am hopeful this will blow that away.

 

About 2.5 weeks in at 4mg/week.  Nearly every time my lab is injected, he reports a big head rush.  Maybe a little bit of body recomp starting to happen.  I'm also adding in some hefty DHEA to maintain insulin sensitivity.  I recently read about someone using this combination to rejuvenate their thymus. 

 

 

Several weeks into this run.  Feel good.  Still get head rush every time.  Could be some body recomp going on.  Going to stay on this and DHEA for the foreseeable future. Had some bad shoulder pain that was holding me back in the gym.... that's all but completely gone. 

 

 

6 weeks into this run of CJC1295 w/DAC.  I have lost 4 pounds of body fat!  Have not changed my exercise routine at all.  As for diet, I have been trying to eat more food to gain weight from strength training in the gym.

 

I weigh myself every morning prior to eating so I can account for the up and down readings on the scale due to human variabilities in weight, and it's an honest 4lbs of fat gone.  I haven't lost any muscle mass or definition.  When I look in the mirror I can actually see the difference.  My lifts are all up in the gym.  Broke a new PR for the bench press at 230lbs.

 

Dosage = 4mg/week

 

I am upping the dosage to 5mg/week since I bought some 5mg vials.  I'm considering upping the dose to 7mg/week. 

 

I also use DHEA to combat insulin resistance as a result of increasing GH levels.  Planning on getting blood test for HGH levels to see where they're at.

 

No negative side effects noted.

Edited by Rocket, 07 December 2015 - 03:39 PM.

[Juicy]

I have tested many via HPLC purity testings I know what's good and not..

 

 

Juicy, why do you think the quality of peptides is no good? Have you seen test results from a number of sources or are you just going by comments and personal experience?

 

[hazeleyes99]

i paid $220 for a month supply of peptides theoretically giving me the equivalent of 2-4 ius of GH a day 

 

versus $750 a month for 4 ius of pharma grade serostim. of course i would love to get seros if i could.. in the future maybe. but for now i gamble with peptides

I would rather opt for other stuff. I am very effy on these GH peptides quality. The quality is very questionable.. I rather settle with pharma GH, Test and Insulin.

 

 

I will be starting a trial stack of ibutamoren (25mg) plus tianeptine (50 mg) daily for 8 weeks. According to multiple pub med articles both are documented to stimulate the pituitary gland to release GH. I will post my findings, in case anyone is curious.

 

 

[noot_in_the_sky]

Quick trick use Huperzine A 100-200mcg with MK-667 or a similar, and you will get a big bang.

[Juicy]

i prefer GHRP-2 + Mod GRF 1,29 entirely.

[Rocket]

i prefer GHRP-2 + Mod GRF 1,29 entirely.

 

Why that preference? Is it to keep the pulsatile HGH release because you have to pin multiple times a day?  I've seen the scientific literature on CJC1295 and it's dose dependent nature of increasing HGH levels. I just don't buy into the need to HGH pulses as opposed to HGH "bleed".  Look at testosterone injections as an example because by injecting T the person loses the T pulses that the body puts out and has round the clock high T levels and yet the injections work.

Edited by Rocket, 28 December 2015 - 09:55 PM.

[Rocket]

My lab rat has been using CJC1295 with DAC at 5mg/wk for several weeks now.  Finally, I am able to post pre- and post- blood results.

 

IGF-1 Blood Values

 

Pre-blood-level = 134ng/ml

Post-blood-level = 206ng/ml

 

This correlates to a slightly better than 50% increase in GH levels. 

 

To be honest, I expected more from this dosage (5mg).  I was expecting at least a doubling of GH levels.  Nonetheless, I'll take a 50% increase for about $40/week of supplementation. 

 

Doing a little math, if I were to double the dose to 10mg/wk then the rat would be around 270ng/ml.  Double that, then around 400ng/ml (costs would be $160/wk).

 

In brief, it's expensive to play with GH levels.  Peptides may be cheaper than real GH, but it still adds up if you are trying to reach rejuvenative or therapeutic levels.

 

Also, given the fall off of GH with age, the older the individual, the more peptide they will require.  A younger rat in their teens or early 20s would get more out of this peptide if they were going for an anabolic effect.

Edited by Rocket, 02 February 2016 - 12:23 AM.

[RiDDIM]

This has been an interesting thread.  I hope some of you will continue with updates.  I have a lot of interest in the peptides science myself.  Have experimented some with Ipamorelin, CJC1295 no DAC, and melanotan 2.  The melanotan 2 was partialy just because it would be easy to see if it was an active compound and somehow have a bit more confidence in the source as to not being completely fake.

 

With that one, it clearly was active compound and fairly high strength based on dosing.  Discontinued as it was apparent that my lab creature actually looked better with less tan than with more tan.  Also noted that the compound has the ability to grow moles? (not sure if correct term, were not hairly, just small brown mark) Not good side effect IMO.

 

As for the GH releasers,  there is definately something active to them.  My lab bunny definately experienced more deep and restful sleep and some other effects.  However the tests were limited up to now.  My main point of concern being the "Russian Rouletteness" of working with unknown, but surely from china and not independantly tested, compounds.  I wouldnt totally exclude china as a source as most things are made there now a days but i don't have a means to independantly test anything i get from them.  Also if i did find a source there that I had some confidence in (i'm open to suggestions) I would rather source from the company directly than some US research chem company that may have large variance or different source batch to batch.

 

Really at this point, the way that I am leaning, is that I would like to either have a custom synth done from a reputible North American lab or involve with others doing a group buy from same so we can achive a better price point.  Like some have done previously with Epitalon.  I just don't know too much about how to do that yet. This is part of the reason I have now joined now although i have been reading threads from this site for some time.

 

My personal interest is doing some medium to long term testing with my own lab group and also some other local research groups but whats is needed is some standardation and not buying random, varying samples here and there.  Main interest at this point is Ipamorelin, CJC1295 no DAC, BPC 157, and possibly some of these "russian bioregulators" (variants of Epitalon?)

 

Anyways I'm just here to learn and share like the rest of you.  Just now sharing my current interests and goals.. But I, being poor, have only my dreams, I have spread my dreams under your feet, Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. =)

 

PS:  The last part is just a qoute from W.B. Yeats that I like.  It amused me to tack it on the end.  google "Aedh wishes for the cloths of heaven" to read the full passage..   Look forward to seeing more posts on these subjects. Hey, if anybody has bookmarked any other threads here or elsewhere that they found informative, please share them to me. I'm Rev, by the way, thanks for reading my post.

[RiDDIM]

Thanks Rocket for posting some numbers.  It's nice to see. 

 

The girl i'm with is a meditech so i'm sometimes able to get bloods (depends where she is working or filling in) so i'm hoping to do similar in the future.  It's good to be able to see some numbers vs what is being tried out.  We're in a developing nation so sometimes we don't have access to more exotic testing but sometimes i'm pleasantly surprised.  Not long ago i was able to pull a pretty full blood panel that also included thyriod hormones and liver enzymes and that was just at a mid level hospital here.  Hospital is a loose term here there are many here that are about half the size of a small elementary school and the lab looks like a 1950's high school chem lab. lol

 

Also i found out there is a UNV somewhat close to me that has an analytical chem lab with HPLC and etc techniques for testing and i will see if i can make some "friends" there that maybe could help me in the future to affordably test some samples like chinese imports.  With the environmental pollution in china i've always been a bit concerned about heavy metal contamination.

 

I've experimented with those pep's myself and while it's clear there is effect there's been something  i've been wondering.  As i have sourced from some RC vendors and the mysterious nature of that business, I have wondered if they could be under dosed in order to boost profits.  Do you think it could be possible that, that is what you are seeing in your experiments?  It seems like that dose, especially with DAC should be plenty.  Just like you were saying that you expected more.  do you think quality or quantity can be ruled out?

 

Also do you mind saying how much was that testing and how you tested.  I suppose it was two test, one prior, one after, but are we talking one test 1st and then one test a certain amount of minutes later?  or was it 2nd test after x weeks of use?  thanks for your input!

 

-R

[RiDDIM]

Juicy,  What kind of results have you seen via HLPC?  High percent unknown substance?  Lead, Cadnium, Mercury, bilogical?  Can you help us get a feel for what you see more often?  Thanks man.